This is the study session of City Council City of Beverly Hills. Today is 2 May 2023 and as we begin this study session agenda we'll start with comments from that are not on agendized items. So our first comment is Wendy Kling, please. Can you hear me? Yeah. So just a couple of things. Thank you for the Arbor Day. That was awesome. And I loved meeting everyone's kids. That was fun. But we all agreed that we didn't want to make public comment here tonight about the trees and allow you guys to kind of get on with your agenda. You know, do city business. But one thing that I did want to bring to your attention and I wanted to ask for your assistance. Some folks from the Robert Sy of our special task force have been getting. Things have been coming back to them that department heads, employees, and people on staff have been speaking negatively to them in public settings about them. Obviously, it's inappropriate. And I think with any ongoing legal situation would be also inappropriate. But also just from, I don't know, a personal standpoint, I think it prevents people from coming forward and wanting to speak their mind. It discourages that. And I don't think that that would be any of attention. So just ask your assistant maybe you would remind people on your staff that they shouldn't be speaking negatively about anybody just as a good general rule of thumb. So that's really all I came here to say because that was pretty concerning. And I've gotten some, I won't say threats but close to it from staff members. So anything you could do just to say that we're all trying to work together and I'm trying to broker peace. I really am. So I appreciate your help. That's all. Okay, thank you. And certainly we agree with that. We can disagree but we can't be disagreeable about it. I appreciate that and honestly as I said that we're really excited because I know Jamie has reached out to you Larry. Oh, I thought he did it. But anyway we're just really excited that there's conversation being had and we really appreciate you guys. Oh, thank you. Thank you. Thank you for being here. Anybody else on non-agenda ice items? If not, we'll close the public comment session and move to item number one. There's a recommendation of the Beverly Hills City Council, Rodeo Drive, special events, holiday program liaison committee regarding the 2023 Rodeo Drive concoursed all the guns, including all applicable street closures and approval of a fiscal year 2022, 2023 purchase order for J. Ben Bushwar Productions Inc. In an amount not to exceed $254,540 for the 2023 Role Day O drive concourse to Elegons. That I'm gonna turn it over to. Good afternoon. Soon to be departing us. Laura Byrie. Thank you Mayor. Good afternoon, Mayor, members of the council. My name is Laura Byrie. And for Mayor. Good afternoon Mayor. Members of the council. My name is Laura Byrie. And for the next day and a half I am still your marketing and economic sustainability manager for the city of Beverly Hills. I have a couple presentations for you today. We are going to start off with the Concourse Day Elegance, the Rodeo Drive famous car show. It will be happening on Sunday June 18th of 2023. Joining me for today's presentation is going to be Legacy Beverly Hills resident, Mr. Bruce Meyer. I'm also going to have the President of the Radeo Drive Committee, Kathy Gohari. She also has members of her board of directors of the Radeo Drive Committee also present with us in the audience today. From the staff that will be supporting me in this presentation because obviously June 18th is after a day and a half from now. We'll also be Ms. Magdalena Davis, who will be your soon community outreach manager and will be helping to execute this and making sure that all of your recommendations happen on June 18th. I will also have Chief Stambrooke is available in the audience as well. Should you have any questions for the police department? At this point in time, I'm gonna call up Bruce Meyer and Kathy Gohari, and we're going to go through the presentation, and then I will return up at the end. Good afternoon. I'm going to let Kathy do all the heavy lifting here. My name is Bruce Meyer. I'm a legacy. Something. What does that mean? What does that mean? Really old. I'm a legacy, something. What does that mean? What does that mean? What does that mean? What does that mean? What does that mean? What does that mean? What does that mean? What does that mean? What does that mean? What does that mean? What does that mean? What does that mean? What does that mean? What does that mean? What does that mean? What does that mean? What does that mean? dynamic part of it. It's just going to be an amazing show. We have sponsorship to cover almost all the expenses. And I was seeing as I was driving over the, because I know it's important to promote the businesses in Beverly Hills and almost all of our sponsors who have given, you know, in six figures? Are Beverly Hills businesses so this is one of those amazing events that promotes Beverly Hills in the finest way Supported by residents of Beverly Hills and the merchants of Beverly Hills So and and the great rodeo drive wouldn't happen without rodeo driving without Kathy Goharry So I mean let you make your present Thanks, Bruce good afternoon mayor council members. Hello Paul. Do you mind coming please? Do we hear no your support? Okay. Yes. Yes. Yes. You can answer questions All marks from bed visual productions who is going to be dealing with the production of the Father's Day Car Show Okay, 28th year and we are still doing this. It's going to be one of probably, you know, and we stayed this every year, but I think we're gonna do ourselves again. This is the first year in my experience of doing this where sponsors approached us before we even went to them, which is a great, great story. So I'm gonna quickly go over some facts and then we'll go on from there. OK, so Father's Day Car Show. This year it will start from 10 AM instead of 11 AM. So we have an extra hour. We last year we had about 46,000 people throughout the day. This year I think it's going to be even more than that. It's going to be a combination of basically staged cars in different areas. And we are, as always, let me start by saying sponsor. We are supported by the Chamber of Commerce and the CVBL3 groups are working together to maximize social media websites and also as always the chamber is working with the restaurants to create a code. What do you call it? QR code. Thank you. A QR code that you can scan and find the nearest restaurants around you. Next, please. This was the banner during the liaison meeting. We were coming back after our sponsor had given us feedback about the banners. So this is the automobile that they chose and more than anything as Bruce has said many times, this is a Father's Day car show and everyone calls it the car show. So no one's going to miss the car show from blocks away driving down towards the spanner. There might be few tweaks and adjustments with borders that I believe is going to be done under the supervision of Mr. Keith Sterling once the banner company gets their hands on this. But pretty much this is the aesthetic. We picked a gold color waist so that it's a little different in the past. We had continuously picked darker colors, so we went bright this time. Next, please. I like the gold. You like the gold? Ah! Yes, I didn't even think about that. Good job. Good note for the future. Media coverage. Last year, even the year before last, we have had so much great press support. We have people from different countries reaching out to us and supporting. These are just a few of the publications from the Rob Report to the Speed Journal to Haggerty, Channel 4, Channel 2, Channel 9. They're all going to be there. And this has become part of their actual story that they produce on Father's Day, Karshal. So we hope to welcome them and have even a bigger noise tonight this year. Coverage. Last year. This is just some of the numbers that we were able to gather up when it comes to what the media attention that we got is worth. So 72 articles in May and June of 2022 alone. 3.5 billion total media impressions, but a lot of images reposted and reposted and reposted still being reposted today. $32 million estimated total of ad buy-ins and 42 individual TV broadcast segments just for the one day of the Father's Day Car Show. So we hope to basically beat all these numbers this year. That's our goal. I mentioned that CVB will also support us next please. Next please. Next, please. Also the chamber with the support of all the restaurants. And then we come to the budget. This year, we have already, I'm proud to say at the time of the liaison meeting, we didn't have it in writing, but as of now, we have our prime sponsor. Our main sponsor is Oguera again this year and they're going with a larger sponsorship than they have in the past. So we are trying to gather up a few of the returning ones who are also in talks about dividing up the street with the experience and knowledge of Mr. Bruce Meyer and his team so that we can have a spectacular collection of cars. We've actually been turning down some sponsors for just not appropriate for the Father's Day car show. But these are some of the people who have heard about the car show and have tried to get a piece of it. So we're excited about this year. You can see the budget, which I'm sure you had all received. Our ask this year is $254,540. It is last estimated budget was $524,000, as I'm sure you have seen in many presentations. Every cost has gone up. Everything has gone up. This year, one of the things I didn't mention before is, we felt like there was a lot of need for beverages and refreshments during the day, because usually it's a super hot day. So this year, we are placing some food trucks of beverages and ice cream and things like that to be able to manage the traffic, because it's not so much a place for them to get lunch but it is definitely a place for them to cool down while they are planning the rest of the day and going into our restaurants. We'd like to keep them on the street as much as possible. Laura, is this you? Are you amazing? Thank you so much. Yes. All right. So the recommendation, as you heard, Kathy described the different presentation before we get into the recommendation, I do want to make one note for the city council that was brought to our attention in an error that was in page three of five of your staff report. It was regarding the 2022 budget. So in the 2022 budget, the initial sponsorship revenue estimate was $170,000. In your packet, it listed as $190. The great news was that by the time we got to the actual event in 2022, the actual sponsorship revenue well exceeded that and came in at $215,000, which is the actual amount that you see there in the chart. And when you compare year over year to what the actual were of 215,000 sponsorship revenue in 222 to what they are budgeting in 2023, we are seeing an increase of $35,000 additional sponsorship revenue dollars projected. As Cathy alluded to, we've had sponsors and so to Bruce, we've had sponsors actually reach out to us before we even had a chance to reach out to them. They were so excited about this year's car show. They're fully aware that we're going to have extra eyes, ears, legs, and bodies here in town that weekend with the US Open Golf Tournament happening right in town, right on the edge of town at the LA Country Club, expecting additional attendance of about 35,000 people per day. You add that to our 46,000 that we're going to have on Sunday and it will be a very, very crowded Father's Day here in Beverly Hills. So here's the recommendations that we're asking for City Council to approve. You have the budgetary request amount for $254,540. That includes the roll over amount from 2022 of 14,512. You have the approval of the street closures for 2023, including the city street closure fee waiver, approval of the selected street poll banner design that you saw today in that gold color, noting that this will be finalized of course with our city's communications team, including Keith Sterling, Lauren Santelana, and Magdalena Davis. And then finally, the approval of the fiscal year 2022-2023 purchase order for J. Ben Bourgeois productions, also known as JBB, in the amount not to exceed $254,540. Staff, as well as the production company and Kathy, are available for any questions. Thank you. Thank you very much. Great report. Any members of the public like to address us on this matter? We'll go to our liaison. So the vice mayor and I were very, very supportive, very enthusiastic and agree with Kathy that this is probably going to be the best year yet ever. Really like the fact that we're starting an hour earlier. I think that's a really very visionary to do so, to really capture the amount of people that are gonna be in our city and our neighboring cities. Wouldn't be surprised if that's something we choose to do even going forward because I think that is really gonna capture a lot more enthusiasm in people. The fact that the U.S. Open is that weekend is only going to provide as a benefit to us. We love the fact that the RDC is going to be working closely with the Chamber and the CVB in terms of really promoting the restaurants and the shopping in our area for that day. And completely agree with the effect because of the US open that there's going to be expansion of banners. That there's going to be banners on cannon on Beverly Drive, on Crescent and Wilshire near the Waldorf, which is where the US open is. So we enthusiastically support it. Thank you Bruce Meyer as always, and the RDC for bringing us by far the best golden car show yet. So that's my report. Thank you, Vice Mayor. Thank you. And yes, we are extremely excited to have the car show. And this is Laura Swan song and what a great Swan song that's going to be. Kathy has done an excellent job with this. And even though Bruce says that it couldn't be done without Kathy, it really couldn't be done without Bruce. Bruce is just the driving force behind this. No fun intended. No fun intended. The driving force. Yeah. I think they got it. Yeah. So thank Bruce for his enthusiasm and doing this. Bruce, I'm going to give you a mission. Should you choose to accept it? And that is to get KBC out here with Dave Coons again. That's the show I always watch. And he always does a great job promoting it. So, looking forward to that and just looking forward to the event in general. So thank you all very much. Thank you. Thank you very much. So thank you again to Bruce, to Kathy, Laura, and RDC. This is truly a wonderful program for our city and I'm an absolute support of it. I think that it's going to be great to have the media support. I agree that the extra hour is going to be fantastic and also to promote people's shopping and dining and staying within the city. And you guys already have a lot of sponsorship, which is fantastic. Keep that up. Hopefully you'll have an additional amount to add to your budget for next year. And I do have a couple of security questions, though, because last year when we were there, it was fantastic. And there were a lot of people, 46,000 is a lot of people to have in that space. And I noticed that there is a third party, and chief, yes, I'm gonna have a question for you too, in a second. I noticed that there's a third party agency that's providing security. Could you speak to that, please? Sure, I'm actually gonna have just to ensure continuity so that you are rest assured that this is being executed by the people that are telling you this information. I'm going to have Magdalena Davis come up and speak to that. I'm also going to have Chief Stain Brook who will both will be here that day. Great. Good afternoon, Council. Mayor. Yes, we do have private security for our events on Rodeo. They are contracted through the budget that you will see that JBB manages, so it is one of their sub vendors. What they are responsible for is the specific event logistics, meaning that we have a safety meeting with them and BHPD, and any of the contractors that BHPD has for private security. We do assign them to various fixed positions on Roe Deo, and we allow BHPD and their security to be the more roaming ones and not in those fixed event positions that are needed for things like vendors. However, I will say they do work wonderfully well together and we do have a, it's called a, am I going to get this right chief unified command, where all of our items are ran through, in your case, you know, very large crowds can mean bags, lost children, and other incidents that we bump up to that unified command and don't handle with private security alone. Thank you very much, and please. Thank you. So I just want to ensure that the community is going to feel as safe as possible. Thank you for being here. Do we have playing closed officers? Or I mean, without giving us the details of what you have involved. Last year, it was fantastic, but I did feel a little, I'm like, I hope everything is covered. Can you speak to that a little bit? It'll actually be easier this year without the parade, so that'll make it somewhat easier. But without giving away operational details, numbers, and tactics and techniques, I feel we have plenty of people that will be there. And of course, we'll always use additional drones, our camera systems, our contracted city security, and we coordinate with the private contracted security. And everything's run through a separate command post that's just for that event. So very comfortable with the security there and I'll be there and I'll be walking around and take care of anything that pops up. Amazing. Thank you. And are we going to have additional security available for that day for the rest of the city? So the rest of the city are normal staffing and then we bring in extra resources just for the event. Perfect. Thank you very much. Those are my questions. Council Member. So in the past the shows have had sort of like a theme. Air planes and Zoradi and Ferrari. What is the theme this year? Certainly. I'm going to bring up Bruce Meyer, Kathy Gohari, and Paul Marks to speak to the question regarding if there will be a theme for this year. In the past we have done, as you have mentioned, silver cars, rolls, voices, different specialty cars. I'm going to bring them up and kind of share with you about this year. So we have a double theme. Rolls Royce, O'Gara, is our major sponsor. You saw that $150,000. So we will be featuring a Rolls Royce pavilion and then also Lamborghini and Bugatti. But the theme we're using for public relations are family days. And we have set up about four or five families, you know, fathers and daughters and fathers and sons that we're gonna use kind of as our handle this year. A couple of them live in Beverly Hills. I mean, it's a very diverse group. So it's about fathers enjoying the car hobby and enjoying the community with their children. So that's kind of our theme this year. And what was the reason that we decided this year not to do the driving around, that sort of thing? Which I think a lot of people enjoyed. The first year a lot of people enjoyed it, because they just didn't want to be closed in on the street and we didn't have a car show. It's just, it's like two separate events. It's an enormous amount of work getting the cars lined up and then getting them on the street. I noticed it because I'm looking at some of the details but but staging the cars from the parade on the street was not easy and it didn't go just really really well in my eyes. I mean to most people wouldn't matter but it does. So it was just, the show really is on rodeo drive and we're going to concentrate on that and it'll be our best ever. There wasn't though the idea of having set cars on rodeo drive but doing, you know, the drive or whatever around the city with other cars that are historic as well. Well we did that. The turnout on the street was minimal. Okay. And for the amount of effort and security it took in staging and it was, double the effort for just not a lot of benefit. That's what I'm sorry. And are there still going to be prizes this year? You know, best of show and that sort of thing. Yeah. Yes. Council Member Mayor, as the first year, all the way from the Peterson to Rodeo Drive, there were people standing. There was not an empty spot. Last year, as we were going, just two blocks away from Rodeo, the traffic was all on Rodeo. Everybody was waiting on Rodeo. There wasn't really much traffic going all the way up the hotel. So we decided to keep it focused where everybody wants to be. You know can I ask, haven't we done years where we've had like super cars you know like Formula 1 cars or NASCAR and that sort of thing? Is that something we would consider doing in the future as well? Oh no we will have Formula 1 thanks to Parallel. Okay. We will have super cars thanks to Arya Markzans and Oguera. I mean, we're going to have everything. There's a group from kind of South Central that have low riders. I've contacted them. We're going to have some incredible low riders. Awesome. We're going to have something for absolutely everybody. And that's the whole theme. And that's why a concourse is generally like cars that are overdone for show. But this is a, you know, a group of cars that just are eye pleasing. You know, there may not be perfect for a concourse, but for, you know, that brings a smile to your face. That's what we're really going for. I think next year, maybe it's the year after, is the 100th anniversary of the Beverly Hills Speedway. With that in mind, have we contacted like, for example, Formula One and offered them to be a sponsor to do something in the future for one of these shows that sort of touches upon that history and that I know there are a lot of, yes, there are a lot of NASCAR fans too, but there are a lot of Formula One, there are a lot of NASCAR fans too, but there are a lot of Formula One fans, a tremendous amount of Formula One fans at Beverly Hills and around. And you know, have we ever addressed the idea of a cooperation with Formula One itself? I know people that have Formula One cars, I don't need to go to Formula One, you know, Liberty Media, I mean, you know, they would just find that amusing. But if we did concentrate on Formula One, you know, I have the contacts and the resources to put together in an amazing display. And I actually hadn't even thought about Formula One, but with the popularity of Netflix, you know, drive to survive, it has made Formula One fans out of non-Formula One. Well, drive to survive. Yeah. It has made Formula One fans out of non Formula One fans. Well, that's true. And also, well, the notion of, you know, also maybe doing a program over, bringing some drivers, doing some, you know, yeah, you could do it on the day, but you could also do something at the Wallace with them on stage and talking to them about their history and all of that. Long Beach, we're going to go flying around the streets here. Well, Long Beach isn't Formula One anymore. I think the Barely Hills Formula One has a great ring to that one. Yeah, I bet you, as you talk to them, they wouldn't. They wouldn't laugh you off the street if you were to do. I mean, we know with the LA Marathon Rodeo Drive is something amazing. But yeah, I'm thinking because of the, it just seems to me, Formula One has become so tremendously popular in the last couple of years. And our connection with the speedway, that's something to bring out history, not obviously for this year, but for the future, that would seem to be something that would make. I think it's a great idea. A lot of sense. And you'd get a lot of kids and their parents who would be excited to be able to maybe meet some of the old stars and that sort of thing. I think that would be great. But anyway, this is obviously one of the, I've always said that I think for me it's rather than reinventing the wheel, no pun intended, that we really should focus on a few events each year that we do write and that people look forward to and obviously the holiday lighting ceremony is one of them but the other one I would say is the Father's Day concourse and so this is obviously something that you know you want to keep it interesting you never do do the same thing each year. And it's fantastic. And so, thanks to all of you, especially you, Bruce, because it's your passion for cars that really, you know, you're as part of our community that has been the driving force. And it's something that is infectious. And you see a lot of other people who aren't necessarily huge car fans, love this event as well. And so very supportive of it. And as said, I would love just an idea, put a, what do they call it, something in your ear, flee in your ear, what I bet. Bug in your ear. Bug in your ear. Be in your bonnet. Yeah. No, I think that's a good idea. And that is something we hadn't started next year's planning yet, but that would be a good start. And I think adding Formula One, there is an enormous rebirth of Formula One. Maybe talked to some of the Tink Red Bull or whatever, some of the teams would be amazing. So everyone's heard of Beverly Hills. And it's true. I mean, if you were with Monaco and all of this if there were a Beverly Hills Grand Prix people would that would probably be a major event. So I actually brought that to City Council a few years back and he spoke to Bruce about it too. That's like a dream come true for a lot of the residents in the city. It was like a mayor or a dream. I'm not sure which but but but one of the maybe a mixture but but what I as you enjoy the show this year just look at the diversity of age gender every which way this this is an event that is you know it's not about you know elitist it's about enjoying something that we all love and use automobiles so So I think it does a good service for Beverly Hills and I've subscribed to every automotive publication in the world and they all cover it. So it just shows that Beverly Hills is you know stepping up with a great show. And thank you for your support because it wouldn't happen without you. So I'm going to add my voice to everybody else's and thank you both. Thank you all for doing this. It's you know we love that it's Father's Day. I don't think I've missed one and I'm sure this one's going to be amazing. I have two thoughts. One I know we've talked about it before this for our city manager but maybe revisit this the audio on rodeo drive. We're renting it for $58,000. I know we talked about it and it was an expensive thing to do permanently, but $58,000 a pop is a lot. After this, that it's an issue but going forward. Secondly, I saw in the media, I didn't see any foreign media. I assumed that as part of that list, you have foreign media lined up to cover this too. Sounds like Bruce reads those, and all those other languages also. Maybe some of those extinct languages too. Conmedias are a public relations firm, and they're really, I... International. It is global. Love it. So we love it, love it, love it. Thank you. You've got five of us supporting you. What are you doing? Thank you very much. Look forward to seeing you on the 18th. It'll be fun. Thank you for your help. Of course, of course. So it sounds like mayor and council. We have unanimous support for the recommendations listed here in front of you to approve the amount, the rollover, the street closures, which we do need city council authority to do waiver of street closure fee. The approval of the street bulldoch, banner design with of course consulting with our communications team and the approval of the purchase order. Yep, we've agreed to it all. Let's move on to item number two. Thank you, Laura. Are you, well, you're gonna present through the rest of the day. So, okay. I was gonna say more, but I'll wait. Item number two, approval of the Beverly Hills City Council Layers on next Beverly Hills Committee recommendations for the next Beverly Hills Work Plan and budget for Fiscal Year 2023-24 Approval of the City Beverly Hills City Council Layers on Beverly Hills Committee next B.A. Recommendations to and I'll let you do that at the end. Okay great. Thank you so much. Good evening. Good afternoon, Marancy Council members. My name is Gabriella Yapp. I am the Paul Sr. Paul Sr. management administrator over public safety. Here with me are the next Beverly Hills Chair Noah Edasami and Vice Chair Charles Smith. We will be presenting to you the fiscal year 2324 next Beverly Hills proposed work plan and budget. So I am going to turn it over to our Chair Vice Chair to talk about the initiatives. And then I'll come back and talk about the budget and we'll go over the leads on recommendations. Thanks. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, guys. Welcome Noah. Welcome, Charles. Thank you very much. Good afternoon, Council. Thank you for having us. So our overarching theme with next Beverly Hills is really to engage the next generation of citizens of the city of Beverly Hills. So some of our main initiatives are membership and community engagement. Activities for this particular initiative include, you know, engaging our young generation with activities such as yoga in the park. We wanted to yoga classes either at Grey Zone or other parks around the city. We also would like to have film screenings at the Grey Zone theater showcasing the next generation of filmmakers, where those are students at USC, UCLA, Beverly Hills High School. We think that would be a great opportunity to engage young residents. We also want to explore screening classic films by those who actually pioneered the City of Beverly Hills in that theater. We also want to engage the schools and the PTA, as well as the school board, because we think that there's a lot of overlap between young families and the next generation of residents in the city. We also want to continue mixers with public safety departments, just in case, BH, et cetera. In terms of community cultural unity initiative, you know, cultural unity is an important aspect of the next generation. And we want to encourage greater unity through diversity, equity, and inclusion. Some particular events that we have been involved in want to continue our festival BH, where we co-sponsored it. And we also co-sponsored a screening event, I agree, so I mentioned for a finished film called Mid-Summer in Hollywood. That was a very successful event and many dignitaries were there. We want to continue to collaborate with staff and other commissions and continue to participate in those events and also Beverly Hills Pride, which we plan to participate in and support this year as well. Art initiatives are important to us, of course, as the next generation of residents. We have partnered with the Arts and Culture Commission and the Human Relations Commission in the past and we want to continue doing so. We have a booth at the art show every year and we're looking forward to the upcoming art show where we will have a booth as well. We want to also continue our art walks where we look at different art pieces throughout the city and have art museum tours for our group and young generation in Beverly Hills. Sustainability, of course, is also a very important aspect of life for the next generation. And we want to continue working with the Public Works Department. We recently had a booth at the farmers market Earth Day. And we want to continue things like we had been doing such as clothing drives. We had a clothing drive with a fire department where we were able to get clothes for for youth aging out of foster care and the the clothing that wasn't we weren't able to donate we we actually recycled, so that stayed out of landfill. And we thought that was fantastic. We also have Next Night, which is our main event of the year. It's a block party on Beverly Drive. Last year was very successful. We had over 5,000, I believe attendees. These were people, families, residents, visitors. We had a fantastic entertainment, land spas performed, and it was really a great, great community event. And we looked forward and hoped we can do the same this year. These are some photos. Okay. And these are photos of next night. And we had, I apologize, apologize even go to the slide right before Please hear some photos of recent events This was our booth at the farmers market at Earth Day the other was from our pride event and Yeah, I'll hand it back to Gabby. Thank you I also want to mention that our Abby, thank you. I also want to mention that our past chair, Tiffany Davis, is also on the line and she was a very instrumental part in everything that happened last year, especially next night. So she's also available for questions. So what we have before you is the budget request. You will see the biggest part of it is next night. And as Kathy Goharry alluded to, costs are up just across the board. I think we saw that last year when we got in all the proposals. So we are requesting $210,000 plus a 10% contingency of $20,000. We are also requesting to fund membership outreach and cultural unity initiatives. These were funded last year, but they were funded with one time carryover dollars. So to make them a permanent fixture that is the request for the work plan. Those three items on top, those will come for future years in a budget enhancement request. Fortunately, this year for next night, policy management does have funding to be able to fund the 2023 next night, which has always presented a challenge in the past because we would have to wait until the next fiscal year to try to get an event together that happened oftentimes in the first quarter of the fiscal year. So if approved by the council, we will be able to fund that out of policy management to fund this next night. In any future in outgoing years, we would come forward to you in a budget enhancement request. The remaining items are continuing items that next did last year in terms of community engagement activities, our initiatives, sustainability initiatives, marketing and miscellaneous. The toll budget for next Beverly Hills is $265,000. So we're here today to hopefully get direction on the liaison recommendation, which was to consider approval of the next Beverly Hills fiscal year 232324 work plan and budget. Approving a street closure of South Beverly Drive for next night and that would be from Friday night September 8th at 6 p.m. through the early morning of Sunday, September 10th at 4 a.m. And also waving the 2023 next night soft costs in Inkine Costs. And that concludes our presentation. We're open for questions. Thank you all. Are there any members of the public that would like to address us on this matter? We have just one from Tiffany Davis. She's on call. Good afternoon, Tiffany. Hi, greetings. Am I on screen. Good afternoon Tiffany. Hi greetings. Are my on screen or not? I don't know. Very much. Oh, sorry about that. Greetings from Texas, which I was there with you in person. Of course, as you know, I'm just here to of course answer any questions about last year's event or this upcoming event, but also want to just show my support as this year's next night's chair and hope that you will approve this budget so that we can do it again bigger and better. I'm here at your disposal and look forward to any questions you might have. Thanks, Patrick. Thank you and get out of Texas as fast as you can. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. It was a joke. Don't mess with text. I'll bring you back all souvenirs. I won't mention what they do. Anybody else likes to address us? That concludes public comment on this item. Thank you. Let's go to the lay-as-ons. Vice mayor. Thank you. Thank you all for the presentation. You know, program is so so exciting and so important. We have the this is really the training ground for our next generation coming to leadership roles in our city. We have Noah and Charles Tiffany. We had Noah Derrick and Noel. All these people have gotten their feet wet and what it is to be part of the community and to put on events in the community and do things for the community as a result of next night. Putting on the next night event is a really a community event that is so important to see the younger part of our community plus the next-next generation at this point coming in to do things with within our city. It's an engagement we talked about at the liaison about making sure that we have some coordination with the schools so that it's promoted within the schools and we get that next generation of students who are in their schools involved in the community. So we were very supportive of this. Unfortunately costs are going up. It's a realization. We just need to deal with that. And I think the budget proposal is one that is reasonable, and we were supportive of it. Thank you, Vice Mayor. And I am too enthusiastically. I thought last year was really a great event, despite the weather. People came out, it was cold and ultimately a rain, but the street was filled. And it was actually filled early on with a lot of little kids. And that was really fun And maybe a note to self maybe we need to learn more activity for the little kids because they seem to like it and They were less but I think it's a great event And I think that we're close to last year's budget the fact that we have the money and this year's budget for next year I think is important so that you can start to plan in May for a September event not have to start in July or August. I think that'll make things easier. So I'm very supportive of it. And I remember this area. Yes, thank you very much. Thank you for the presentation and thank you for being here. I think that this is a great group and it's important to have our young people as part of the community. So I like the ideas of bringing in college age students engaging with our youth because it's talking about the next generation. The one area that I would like to see maybe some more thought on is at the end of the day we want to be able to have young people who reside in Beverly Hills, who are actually going to be able to be residents of our city. And what can we do to assist that process? What can we do to help with the housing? What can we do to make it affordable for our young people? Because a community without our young people being able to thrive and really be a part of it is not, it defeats the purpose of programs like this. So that's one area that I would love to see looked at. Is there a reason why the month of October is chosen? Because last time when it rained during the event, it was cold and usually when we do outdoor events you try to do it when the weather is a little better out. We did learn from last year so we've moved it up to September 9th as the proposed date for this year. We really, you know, we looked at the calendar also to avoid any other city events or high holy days. So we are really hoping for good weather on September 9th. Fantastic. And I noticed that there was some funding put aside for outreach and etc. What are the plans on outreach? Well, a lot of the outreach, we talked about meeting with a lot of the families and school groups, plus, you know, other segments of the population. We really want to get an understanding of what it is that people are looking for in their community, what they like about it. You know, what we've seen as a lot of people who grew up here also come back to live here is there, you know, what draws you back to this place and just really exploring that. I don't know if NOAA and Charles have anything to add, but having those conversations, events to hold that space for that conversation to happen. Please remind me which exact line item are you asking about or initiative? Well, I'm just asking overall what your plans are for outreach in addition to. Right. You know, we, in terms of outreach, we want to engage. We want to add a new kind of group of focus this year, which is young families. So people who have young children, people whose children are in early education programs. So not necessarily only recent college graduates, but also people who are a little bit more established in their careers. Those who hopefully will move to Beverly Hills and stay here for the rest of their lives and raise their families here. That's a great idea. All right, wonderful. In the future, I'd like to see a little more details with regard to the cost of the breakdown so that we have a better idea of that for transparency. Otherwise, I am in support of this. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. First of all, I do want to start off with a thank you to the mayor for having the vision of this incredible committee. I remember when this initially was born and where we are now is extraordinary. With the leadership that we have standing here in front of us as well as you know Tiffany I'm going to embarrass her because she just was awarded the on the top 10 trailblazers in the entertainment industry by LA Weekly. So that is a pretty extraordinary Tiffany, and really, to me, really speaks to the incredible vision of this wonderful committee. So thank you for that. I also am very impressed with the different initiatives that you want to bring forward this year. It's wonderful that we are having next night and I definitely agree that last year was on a different level and I was one of the people that stayed in dance in the rain and you can count on that and it was really fun and I made others stay with me. So the rain did not stop us at all. But I think that this is grown to a new dimension. And we have seen our city grow as well in the sense that people now are wanting to move here, open restaurants here. They're seeing the vibrancy and such. And I think that this is really will attract the next generation. You know, I think when we first came on the council, you know, our city was not as vibrant as it is now and many things were closing at six o'clock and such and I think when, you know, as you were doing your presentation, I was thinking of our neighboring cities and none of our neighboring cities has anything like this in place to this level. So I think this in itself is an attraction for the next generation, whether it's people who are just finishing college or the young families. And I think this is exactly a program that would make people want to consider moving to our city. It has the ability of what we love in our city, which is obviously world famous, but it has a sense of family and community. And this next gen is giving that sense. So when I was there yesterday, I mean, last year, and I was talking to Dr. Breggie and the superintendent and everybody that was there yesterday, I mean last year and I was talking to Dr. Breggie and the superintendent and everybody that was there from the schools, they were so excited to be a part of it and the parents were excited to be a part of it. And I agree with the mayor that during the day, you saw a lot of young families coming out. And I guess that was my, I have two questions. Are we doing similar time that we did last year? Are we shifting the time? What are we thinking in terms of the timing? I think we'll have to look at the calendar in terms of when sunset is. I think it will be a similar time. It is a month earlier than October, because October it started to get dark earlier. So we'll look at that. I think it'll be roughly at the same time. We have already talked to the schools and they've expressed they want involvement for sure and they want a bigger space at next night. So I think it'll be really great to have that presence again. And so, but I imagine it'll be roughly about the same time but may move maybe like half an hour or so. And are we working other than schools are we also working with our commissions whether it's the Art and Culture Commission, Human Relations Commission, to be a partner in this as well? You know we haven't yet but we were actually getting ready to go talk to the Reckon Parks Commission about some of the other items that we have. We found a lot of success in partnering with the Commission and collaborating and really I think bringing everybody together to help support each other. So we will definitely do that. We've talked to Kamey Services about involving the Teen Advisory Committee again because last year when they did that haunted house it was such a hit and I think it also helped to their membership as well to be able to attract more people into the TAC. So those conversations are beginning to happen we've already kind of helped you have them save the date and you know we're trying to assess people's interest and so hopefully we'll get more partners in this. Oh I'm sure I'm sure we will and lastly in terms of working with the Chamber and the CVB, I think that was a big plus was that people knew that they could go eat on whether it's Beverly Drive or they could go eat on Canon, or are we still doing that where there's that cross promotion that people, when they come if they want to, after they spend a certain amount of hours or that they can make a reservation at a restaurant or shopping and is that still something that's gonna be going forward for this year? Yes, we were very fortunate to have the help of the CVB and the Chamber last year and they built out through, they're web pages already, but also helping us like the Chamber built out local, you know, they're web pages already, but also helping us like the chamber built out local places that people could go that were within walking distance. And you know, we'd like to build that out even more, you know, every single year as we do this. And so that is part of the plan. Fantastic. So I am enthusiastically in support of this. I'm grateful. And I think the fact that we are doing this now, and I do agree that the time of year is a better year, a better time of year in September, in terms of weather and people are, it's right after Labor Day, they're ready to, you know, have something really fun on South Beverly Drive. Also, I think gives us an opportunity to get the word out now, get, you know, get people to know about this as we're heading into the summer months and then when people get back after Labor Day we have something really extraordinary happening in our city so thank you to the committee thank you to the laya's on and you have my enthusiastic support thank you thank you so I am also supportive and like council member Nizarin I would like to see more breakdown because when we're spending that amount of money, last year it was lands-bass, who are we going to get for that? Maybe that's a good question. Are we going to get it? I get it. But who are, what sort of people are you looking for? We are looking for about that same talent level. I think I'm going to turn this one over to Tiffany if she's available because she's much more well-versed. Who might be some of the people we could get for the budget? Like some, for example. They are actually researching which acts are available right now for that date. Right, and I'm saying I understand it might not be for that date, but just for the budget level that we're looking at. I think we're looking at about the same level talent as last year. Aside from Lance Bass, who would some of those comparable artists be? Well, we would leave that to Tiffany. I don't think she knows. Tiffany, are you still with us? I'm here if you can hear me. We can hear you. Okay, great. You're back. Okay, yes, great question. In Gabby is correct. It'll be a similar level of talent in that price range. And we are actually, I've asked some agents to send me options on 80s, 90s, and early 2000s talent, because that tends to be a lot of the interest from the group, meaning the next Beverly Hills group. So I will be able to present some options to the committee. And we can discuss who we think would be, you know, the bigger draw and the most crowd pleasing. So it will be some it will be kind of pop, you know, you have to do family friendly obviously something I always want to go for somebody who's as well known as possible. It draws a bigger crowd and just somebody's it's a lot of fun. So I don't have exact names for you yet, but we are gathering this. When might we be able to find that out? I would say in the next two weeks, we probably have a good list of available talent that fits our budget if that works for you. I'd like to ask Gabby to please, as soon as you have that list to share it with us. Absolutely. Is it okay if I just email everybody or do you want to? I just want to make sure with Tiffany. Last year we had some question about not disclosing a name for a while. Are we going to have any of those sorts of issues if circulate this? Oh, the only requirement is we have to have a signed contract with talent before we can use their name to promote it. So if the faster we can get a contract signed and a, you know, which also requires a deposit, then we should be able to start advertising their name. Well, yeah, but I'm not concerned with the advertising. I just would like to know, okay, for this price point, here's who we could be looking at so that we can give some input to. We can certainly. So that's a question. We'll be okay sharing the list, Tiffany. Before we make it. Oh, absolutely. With you guys, if I can share the list in a private manner, thank you. Now I understand your question better. Yes, if this is in a public setting, there could be some issues. We're certainly. I'm sorry. Yeah, you can't really share it in a private manner. I mean, it need private manner. So I don't think that's really. That's really going to work out. Okay. The issue is floating potential names. You know, let me talk to the agents. You know, I don't want to give you a definite no, we can't do it. But there are some sensitivities there. You know, let me talk to the agents. You know, I don't want to give you a definite no, we can't do it. But there are some sensitivities there. Okay. If they're not signed. But we can maybe, we'll figure it out and we can talk to Larry and maybe figure out the appropriate way to move forward with that. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I think there's consensus to move forward. Did you have a specific set of recommendations you want to just to approve? They are the ones on the screen. Is it okay with those? Yes. Okay. Thank you. Thank you all. We're going to move to item number three. This is a discussion of the city's process for approval of murals and requests by the Rotary Club of Beverly Hills to create a legacy mural honoring the community. As Keith gets ready for this, I wanna give a little bit of background. First off, in full disclosure, four of us are Rotary members, so just putting this out there. Secondly, there was a Rotary meeting at which this concept was discussed. And I suggested we be here today to initially, before we get to the specifics of what rotary is talking about, to actually have a conversation about murals on buildings and whether or not or in what context the city would do that because I wasn't sure that we had a clear plan for how we put murals on buildings or if we put murals on buildings. And so I hope that the first part of the conversation would be, you know, can we or do we want to? And then the second part would be the specifics about the rotary requests. That's kind of how I was envisioning this. I don't think there's a clear path from their request to us without that intermediate step of what do we want to do? Okay with that? Was that clear and not so clear? Yes, so I understand we're talking about buildings in general, public buildings, private buildings. Both. Okay. Take it away, Keith. Thank you, Mayor Gold. Council, good afternoon, Keith Sterling, Deputy City Manager. I'm going to, I guess, act as the master of ceremonies with help from many assistants here. We have Larry Wiener's going to chime in. We have Stephanie Harris from Community Services, Timmy Twey from Community Development. This touches a lot of departments as the Mayor was just speaking about. So typically, we do receive requests that come into the City Manage Office or department level for the installation of a mural in the city. It's something that does come up from time to time. Currently as mayor Gold mentioned, we have a request from the Rotary Club of Beverly Hills to possibly create a mural in the city celebrating the community and the history of Beverly Hills. So typically, there are two paths for approval. First is a review by the Arts and Culture Commission. And the second is, of course, that it's brought to City Council to consider it. So let me show here's an example of that. You may remember the mural on Canon that was approved several years ago that's still there to this day and was a tremendous success. So that's path one through the Arts and Culture Commission. And then the second is review by the Architectural Commission which has, and this is specifically related to private property when we talk about the Architectural Commission. There's some specific language in our code about this as you see here. There's some specific language in our code about this. As you see here, the mural or the graphic that consists of architectural landscape features since such as Trump-Loy. And Trump-Loy resembles the 3D impression. So when you're looking at art and it appears to be 3D, that's what Trump-Loy is. For those of you who may know, many of you may know. So those are the two paths currently for consideration or approval of a mural. So I wanted to ask Larry if he could speak a little bit about the issue of free speech related to murals on public property versus private property in general and then we can have our department directors add some context as well. So the distinction between public and private property is this. On public property you have more control over the content of the mural. You can choose what is city speech. So if you're talking about a side of a garage as an example. You have control over what would be considered city speech. You don't have to be content neutral. You can choose. This is the type of city speech that we want to use in a mural. City city. You have some control over that. As opposed to private property where you don't, you're not speaking as the city on private property, you're regulating speech, so you can't really distinguish based on content or viewpoint for that matter. So you have much more flexibility if you're talking about public property. When you're talking about private property, very little flexibility, you can adopt standards that are content neutral, such as the one that we just saw. But that's as far as you can go on private property. Okay, so thank you Larry. So the discussion as Mayor Gold mentioned is really just to talk a little bit specifically about the request from Rotary Club and if there's a desire I understand we have representatives here, C. Sandy and other friends. Thank you for being here and it do have some slides to share if we are so inclined to take a look at those once we have this discussion. And then also determine the process in general beyond these two paths that we've talked about, the Arts and Culture Architectural Commissions, pathways forward for approvals of murals that may not fit cleanly into one of those two categories. And as I mentioned, Tim, you see here from Community Development to talk about the architectural path and Stephanie's here to talk about the history with arts and culture as well for any questions you may have. OK. Did you, ladies, want to talk about it first or should we wait for questions? I'm sorry. Questions. You know wait. Okay. Well no, no. We're getting to the project. We're getting to the project. But, but I just to kind of follow on what Larry said, you can see the project. Project probably does not meet the standard for what would be on a private building. Because it's pretty explicit. It's not Trump to Trump-esque or whatever it was. Trump for it. Yeah. Trump what? Whatever the word. Trump for. Yeah. Trump what? Whatever the word is that. Okay. Why don't you show us the presentation and we can go from there. Why don't we sign up that? Right here. Come on. Trump. What is that? Trump. It's deceives the eye. It's a translation literal translation. Yeah. It's. the I is a translation literal translation. Yeah. Yeah. This. Hello everybody. This one. the Let's give us a moment we're getting the technology set up here. Hmm? All right. If you allow the other folks. All right. Better? We'll catch up with the pictures. Okay. Good afternoon. It's a C2. Do everyone. Nice to see you. I just want to introduce Warren Brand, who... First introduce to your self, Ms. Presmond. Oh, thank you. I'm Sandy Presman and William Raffle. And we are representing Rotary for the production of a mural. And we brought up this mural maybe six, seven years ago at Rotary. And we are still looking for a wall. But thank you for the clarification. And we have been looking for both a public wall and a private wall. The former city manager was looking for a wall for us as half our police chief and fire chief as they drive around because we have specific qualifications that we're looking for for visibility for enjoyment of the community. for visibility for enjoyment of the community. This mural, I would like you to see the presentation before we talk about it, so there's not too much repetition. Lilian will be president of Rotary next year. It's our 100th anniversary, and we were thinking that if we could get started on this, it would be a wonderful thing for Rotary for the next two years, Rotary and Community. Are you? Very close. But I think the order would be for you to see what we have in mind before we address the issue of a community inclusive legacy mural city. We have. You're not allowed in space. We'll be back. Machine guns come out if you enter that space. All right. Greetings and salutations, everyone. Hi. Thank you for the time. I'm Warren Brand. I have a company called Branded Arts. Born and raised on the west side in Santa Monica, but I'm in Beverly Hills all the time. And over the last 13 years, we have produced over 700 public art projects in 60 cities around the world. We work on a variety of different things, corporate real estate projects, community projects, schools, youth centers, boys and girls clubs, you name it. We stay very busy bringing positive art to the community. These are all the cities we're in. And we've been very fortunate to work with so many great developers, brands, architects, you name it, we stay very busy. This project for several years back in 2016, I did a presentation for the Rotary Club. We talked about the work that we do with public know public schools getting community members involved to do exciting impactful art projects and we talked about what if we did a permanent legacy mural for the enrichment of the Beverly Hills community and as it continued growing we got a lot of support from different community members members of Rotary and the plan is that together we will commission a renowned artist to engage community members to participate in hand-painting different elements of the mural with the final product to be completed by the artist. We don't have the art yet. We want to make sure that it's almost like when they were talking about what music artists should be booked, it has to be fun, the bigger the name, the better, the community friendly, all of those things fall into play. It's very similar. There's parallels there. So I'm going to show you some examples of pieces that we've done. I'm going to run through this super quick. Here's the LA call CM mural that we did. You know, the bigger the better, this is 14 stories. Here's one with Gensler and Hudson Pacific properties. Here's one in Plyavista for Worth Real Estate Group. Here's a powder-coated stainless steel sculpture that we did in Koreatown. Inside of Crypto Arena, this one has augmented reality. This is kind of trumploy. How it has a 3D effect to it, an optical effect to it. You point your phone with mobile technology and it comes to life, and the basketballs fly out at you. This is a branded arts project with branding in it, but we will not have branding in the Broderie mural. Here's the Maya Angelou High School in South Central Los Angeles. Here's the Robert F. Kennedy School in Koreatown. We had some great donors, including Stanley Black for this one. So an incredible, incredible project where we did 20 murals at a public school. OK, next steps. What do we need? Well, the first thing we must do is we must identify a location, a wall facade that would qualify as a permanent legacy opportunity. Meaning it would not be compromised in the future by construction projects or quick changes in ownership. Anything that would compromise the wall and the artwork from being taken down. We're looking at this as a mural, we're looking at this mural as a rotary community service project. This mural should be accessible for the community to participate in its creation. That means community members have to be able to touch it on the ground level. We can't put them up on ladder or anything. Also, we want pedestrians to be able to interact with it and take photographs with it all the time. And we also want it to be an uplifting experience for drivers when they're driving through Beverly Hills and they see this incredible positive affirmation art project. And we're looking for participation from Beverly Hills Rotary Club members and the rest of the Beverly Hills community. That's the intention of the project. I'm gonna leave it on this slide and talk a little bit more about the type of location that we wanna get, the content of the art, how we're gonna fund it and things like that. Look, the content is not confirmed yet. Everything will be subject to review from all stakeholders and approval. That's very important. Revisions may be needed. We want to make sure we get this right and we're not stepping on any toes or doing anything that might not be good for a legacy art project, right? That means, you know, historical things can make sense. We have to be very mindful. In terms of who's going to fund it, well, we're going to work with the local business community, the local gallery community in Beverly Hills, which is incredible, looking at artists that they represent. Artists from all around the world can be considered for this project. And also, you know, harnessing the relationships of the Beverly Hills Rotary Club to get this across the finish line. And that is the intention of the project. It is a community service project. The hundred years of Rotary. There you have it. Thank you, sir. Thank you, everyone. Family, Lily, and which one of you is next, please. Thank you, sir. Thank you, everyone. Vanley, Lillian, which one of you is next, please. That is basically the presentation we have worked on together. So we would be receptive to questions because as you know, we don't have a wall and we don't have the funding yet until we go through the process. We are very mindful of the process and we thank you for inviting us here and we look forward to working with whoever you address us to work with on the creation of this mural and we will bring all the details to whoever that is as we go forward. Okay, so let's move along and if there is anybody else in the chamber, why don't you guys take yourselves comfortable for a moment. Okay, thank you. There's anybody. That's number four. Any other public comment? There is no public comment. No other public comment. So, okay. You want to say Keith? Okay. Council Member Nazarian. Yes, thank you very much. First off, you have five Rotarians sitting up here. Well, Nancy's. Oh, Well, Nancy's a Rotarian. You're right, right? Recently. So I check to make sure that there's no conflict of interest. And who are two? Six. In any case. And you know how much we love Rotary. And I love this idea. I'm still a little unclear as to what's going on. I think sometimes partnerships with cities are difficult because you want to be able to know what the funding is and you want to have the project ready. But at the same time, you don't want to go do all the work and then have council or have a recommendation that does not necessarily support the project. So I understand where you're at. I do have a couple of questions though. My first question, I don't know who wants to answer it. Ask a question, we'll figure out it. Okay, yes. My first question is why was this not taken to the two you know the Arts and Culture Commission or the The two avenues that are available what it was my doing because it didn't actually fit with either exactly and so Without knowing what they wanted to do and what the councils will was I Thought we should at least say we can help them pick a direction I thought we should at least say we can help them pick a direction, but it wasn't for them to pick a direction I wasn't going to pick the direction for council and pick the direction so we have to point them in the right direction with Arts and And Here if I could add to I think councilman is there any there could be an argument that it would lean arts and culture through that process But there really there needs to be a bigger conversation because this is not the only request that we've had for murals. This is something that keeps coming up. And so that's why we wanted to have a bigger discussion about which path moving forward. Well, and at its highest level, do we want murals on buildings? Period. In any context. I think there's a lot involved here and this is- And I'm really excited that I get to go first. I think that we have commissions in place and I've said this many times for this reason specifically I And there are many many many many many questions involved for example What is what will the cost of such a project be we're not gonna pay for? Sorry, we're not paying for they're paying for I Understand they start a project and they can't pay for it then what There's a lot of questions involved. That's my point. So what I'm saying is I don't know if we're equipped, sorry, just I don't know if we're equipped to be able to answer that question at this time. I mean, I think that celebrating Rotary's 100 year anniversary is a must and our city will celebrate it to its fullest. Oh my God. So sorry. Well, you guys don't have to stand there. Let's. Oh, okay. We thought we were going to answer. We're going to ask. Well, I don't know that you know the answers either. Let's say. And I also love the idea of community inclusivity, legacy to have a mural that represents that. I don't know if the five of us sitting here right now are equipped with making a decision on this with the information that is provided to us. So I also have a few questions. I have some confusion with the report myself. I feel that we already have some of the answers. So I think we do have a path currently for murals. And as you had stated for the Architecture Commission it would be a trunpoint, which is essentially like a art type of a geometric look, correct? We also have a path forward for the Art Commission, which was not provided in the staff report who is able to address the guidelines for the art commission for a mural. Stephanie Harris is here. Director of Community Services. Hi Stephanie. Good afternoon. So as of right now for fine art or for the Arts and Culture Commission, it still falls under our fine art ordinance. So an artist must be considered a fine artist who has been displayed in galleries, has publications. That's the path forward we have right now for murals. So for example, Jay Gold Crown, who is somebody that the next gen had used. And we had a partnership with them with him. His mural was or is on Alfred and he is somebody for example that has shown in galleries and such so he would qualify. Yes, if he meets the criteria I'm not familiar and I'd have to do a little research before I can answer that with confidence. Okay, so we have a mural currently on South Beverly Drive. Initially that particular mural went to get a special event permit. And that was there initially as a temporary mural and then later applied to be permanent and I believe went to the Architecture Commission. Can you address that? Yes, hi everyone, Timmie Tui, Director of Community Development. That is correct, so it's a large pop art mural and it was initially approved under a special event permit. And then the owner requested to make it permanent. It went to the architectural commission and was approved under the architectural process. It's on a private building. So that's kind of step one to be architectural process. And then it went to the commission. And they approved it. So therein lies my question. Because that particular mural is not a trunpoint. Bless you. It is a woman. So it's not geometric shapes. So is another factor of a mural going to the architectural commission is if it's not a trunpoint, but it's on a private building, it goes to architecture. And I think this is a good example of where the lines get a little blurry and where perhaps we're asking for direction is if you read the code for the architectural commission, it is very narrow language. It has to be architectural and landscape features such as tromploy. And so I will admit, I think that the South Beverly mural is a little bit of a stretch of this, which is essentially one of the reasons I went to the commission. But we are getting more questions from people of this, you know, which is essentially one of the reasons I went to the commission. But we are getting more questions from people with kind of pop art and also political messaging, which right now under our existing code, we would not allow someone to install on a private bill. We do not have a path forward for that because it's clearly not architectural and landscape features. So as we're getting more of these requests, Keith alluded to some of them, part of what we're seeking is guidance as to, how would you like us to carry those forward if at all, or we can just say, I'm sorry there's no path forward in the code. And I guess that's where, I'm not sure I agree with that. I mean, you know, Sandy actually had served on the York Commission, so she knows it well and actually worked on the guidelines. So, for example, using the mural on South Beverly Drive as I remember correctly, that particular artist was somebody that was very well known and had, again, I don't know which galleries or et cetera, but it wasn't just anybody. So I think in that instance, it seems like perhaps if we were to see another mural of a not a Trumpoid, then the guideline that we have currently in place would be, as Director Harris said, is this an artist that has a certain stature, et cetera, and whether it's on a private building or a public building, it would seem like it would go to the art commission. And that perhaps could have been the case. I am not as familiar with the artist for the South Beverly, but if it had risen to that high standard that the community services department process has, then I agree that it would naturally go through that process. I think they have a little more latitude in the art itself, but it has that bar of being a certain know, a certain type of artist. Right. The Architectural Commission does not have the bar related to the artist. And we would have no control over a political art that fulfills criteria. On a private, correct. Right. And I believe Larry, we don't. If it's if if a individual who owns a private building and they want to put, I mean, this is what it's done, the report and they want to put a mural on their private property that, you know, in terms of free speech, we are somewhat limited. Again, I think whether it's public or private property even if it were an artist of great renown that they would be limited to I can't recall the exact quote but geometric shapes and landscape features such as the trumpley. It couldn't be words it couldn't be people. So that, so then, is there any instance where somebody who has a private property can put a political message or such without approval from the city. Well, if they can do it in by using those criteria, then perhaps, but... So it would be a geometric like... Yeah, I, you know. Secret word. Exactly. But other than that, because that's a content neutral criteria, so they can put any message underneath it that they want if they can work within those restrictions, but other than that, no. Okay. The Amanda Foundation has a mural. Did that go to the Architecture Commission or the Archimission? I believe that went to the Architectural Commission for approval. Okay, and I think that also is not geometric shapes. I don't recall, Rhine, do you recall the Amanda Foundation? I think it has animals on it. Animal faces. I think it has animals and maybe some hearts. Maybe the hearts are a little bit geometric, but I think this goes back to what Timmy had said is when we've gotten these requests in the past, we had sort of left it up to the architectural commission to review against the code and as we've seen more of these requests come through, I think there's been an effort to try to tighten up our internal review process and rather than just let people take things to the commission, we're looking more closely at what's the definition of a mural and does what the person is proposing comply with that so that we can hopefully prevent some of these from going to the commission that really aren't in line with what the code says. Okay. We also have one on Alfred. I believe that went to the architecture commission. That did go to the architecture commission. It's hearts. Right, yes. A question for Sandy or Lillian, whoever wants to answer it. Regarding the goal or the intent, you know, I know that you had said that you're looking for a wall, either private or public. What's your first choice? My first choice would be public. And Sandy. Visibility. So whether it was a public or private wall, it would be the visibility. We have criteria that we've been working towards, which is community participation in creating the wall. There's a whole group of us that have gone out for years looking for the right wall. We just haven't found it. But as we drive around looking, we realize that we want accessibility to the community as the first step to creating this. So Sandy having knowing very well, you know, the Archimission Guidelines and obviously knowing the Architecture Guidelines, what you're wearing every hat, Archimission, Architecture Commission and Rotary, with all that, you know, to factor in, what do you see as the correct path forward to the goal of rotary? All right, I'll go in that case. I just wanted to ask a question because when you were talking about the, going to the architectural commission, I think that Larry said something about such as geometric shapes, but is that, to me, such as gives it some kind of flexibility. I think people. Yeah, I'm sorry. It can't be people. It could be hard. It could be. But I'm not sure about that. Is this such as? I think such as was referring to the Trump. And if I can just clarify. Yes, but I'm saying is such as seems to be such as Trump. So what the code I don't officially says is it is the graphics should consist of architectural and landscape features such as Trump. So Trump. Loy is an example of architectural and landscape features, but really the standard is architectural and landscape features. Thank you. That's much more clear. So with that being said, again, without knowing what the design is, but just as, you know, having the assumption, and please correct me if I'm wrong, that the vision of the rotary mural would be beyond shapes or landscape. Is that correct in that assumption? Not necessarily. Yeah, no. Okay. So we are very respectful of the various communities in Beverly Hills. We are not here to present either represent representational art, which would be figure two. We are not here to represent anything, little to the community or anything that is so timely of today's world. We are here to create and this is a creation, it is a process that we would get to, but that would be comfortable for the community in Beverly Hills that's accessible, that's understandable, that children and their families, that adults, and their families can come and help to create this. We will create the model with the artist. It will be on the scrim and then the artist will finish it after we go outside the lines, which is what's going to happen. But in terms of the design, until we see the wall, it's really hard to create a piece. So I think I'm somewhat in line with what Council Member Nuzerian was saying. Because we currently have two paths forward depending on what a mural would look like. If it's a more fine art, certain level caliber artist, one path. If it's the Trump-boyed shapes, et cetera, landscape, another path. We already have those guidelines in place. And we have done that with the murals in the past. So for me, I guess I feel like we're in some ways putting the cart before the horse because we don't know yet or you don't know yet what path you want to do. Do you want to do something that would be more geometric and that would fit into the architecture mission or would you want to do something that would make more sense that it goes in art commission? So I don't know how to send them off to the art commission if what they end up choosing really doesn't necessarily belong there. Well, that's why it's here because it was very ambiguous. Right, so I think for me is I completely agree and love the idea of celebrating 100 years of rotary and celebrating our community. We had our Ed Massey community event when he did the Lillipond and he was one of our own artists. But the oil will. Right. Exactly. It's the same kind of community participation. Right. And it was extraordinary. The community loved it and we had kids doing it to, you know, people in their 90s and so I think I think what you're hoping to do is extraordinary and something that our community will love. And I'm whole heartedly in support of it. So I think for me, it's more of a function of once you find the wall that you want and then somewhat have an idea of which direction you want to go, then I think we're able to send you there. Thank you. I believe Mayor Gold asked us to come because he wanted clarification from you. So we are a little bit, as you say, carte before the horse. We felt that by coming here, we might have then go ahead from the City Council to proceed more actively. This was not originally brought up as a anniversary for rotary. We have been working on this concept since 2016. Now we'll be an anniversary for Rotter. It's just becoming. But sometimes timing is everything. You are absolutely right. So I think we need guidance from you as well as the other way around. So what guidance are you like are you looking for from me having heard what I'm saying? Have I answered your questions or are you looking for further guidance? I think that Mayor Gold wanted a consensus because we were not aware that there are other people coming forward with their own ideas. We didn't know that until we were asked to come forward here. And I know that this so maybe we need policy on mural from you, but going forward means requesting money, requesting a wall getting requesting many but I think in the mayors enough from it not from the council but you mean from whatever. Not from the council. Right. You mean not from the city but from wherever sponsor money you're going to. Yeah. So let's get through the rest of the council and then perhaps we can we'll come to some path forward. So Sean had something she wanted to add. It was just a thought because a lot of these paths, the two paths that we have in place, I guess are for permanent projects. And I just wanted to kind of throw that out there, that there is also a third option, which is kind of what we have right now at the end of Canon, which is a temporary project. So that would be another question that, and I think that I'm clear on what your answer is gonna be, and you're welcome to answer it, so everybody knows. Permanent, yes. But I just wanted to kind of put that out there that that's also an option that we can look at. And we'll get to everybody else, but I'm getting a sense that we're gonna have to help them find which path they want forward, but I'm getting a sense that we're going to have to help them find which path they want forward, but not here today. Well, to me it's simple. I don't think we should be deciding on, it's like a jack story. I don't know what if, basis? This is the jack story. I, Danny Tom, this is a great Beverly Hills resident and it's very appropriate. We should be looking at specifics. We should be looking if there is a specific site where a specific artwork is proposed. We can look at that. But making principles in general about what can or should be allowed, I don't think we should have anything like that. I think there should be perhaps one-offs. I do think it should be public because we'll control it. If someone in a private situation wants to do it, then there are rules and we shouldn't allow it in general because it looks like super graphics sometimes. And that's what it is. And super graphics aren't necessarily a good thing for the city. So I'm not saying that there isn't a potential for a legacy mural on ideally a public or a city property. But I'd want to, I'd challenge or I'd ask the people at Rotorita find a location and then come back with a concept. That to me makes the most sense. This is just sort of fumbling around in the dark. Thank you. Les Mayer. And I totally agree with John. I think that, you know, as I'm trained in presenting issues to a court, court doesn't want, can't deal with a generality because there's always a little, everything's a little bit different. I think that we need to be presented with a specific, and at that point, we can make a determination. You know, whether it should go down the architectural commission pass or the arts and culture path, I think it's something that the people who are proposing it need to make that initial determination based on the roads that are preset, and if it's the incorrect path, then it'll be directed to the correct path. If the other path is the incorrect path, we're gonna see it at that point in time. But I think without there being a specific, I think we have paths that are there right now, and I think people want to have something need to choose which path to go down first. So back to me and I brought it here so I'll take responsibility for this. I think the pathways are blurry because I think and maybe I just know a little bit more about what you want to do than the rest of the council. But I think what you want to do, which would probably have human form in it and perhaps other symbols of things, probably doesn't easily fit down either path at somewhere in the middle. That said, it's not to say that we couldn't construct something different. That would be a conversation. I would suggest to move this along that we help them answer the question. Maybe the arts and culture liaison can meet and help direct them if that's okay with the arts and culture liaison, is that you guys? No, it's me, is it you? Who's doing it with me? You know, and I think you are. And maybe with our staff to sort of help clarify this and kind of move it forward. And then does that work? It works, but I mean, I'm happy to do it, but I think at least from what I've heard from majority of my colleagues is that even if we were to meet with the as a liaison I think we still need to know what we're dealing with. But it would give us a little better opportunity to flush it out and maybe have staff involvement in helping them. I also, sorry, I also what I'm hearing is that there's unclear there's not clarity on what the requirements are and perhaps it would be helpful if we kind of looked at that and tried to hone it down a little bit and show them what you could do for each of the different staff can help you with that. personally think that they know because Sandy wrote it. Sandy wrote it. Okay. But I'm happy to meet anytime. Stephanie, if you can help them and I'll act as an intermediary, I alone, so it's not a public. And I'll bring it back here again next time. So you're not, I don't think you're the layers on though. No. So you're not doing the layers on. I wasn't going to do the layers. So it's not're the layers on them. No. So you're not doing the layers on you? I wasn't going to do the layers. So it sounded like the layers on wasn't excited. So I figured I would just jump in and do it. OK. All right. Unless you want to. I'm happy to. Good. Done. So for clarification, am I scheduling a liaison meeting or a staff working meeting? Staff working. Yeah, I think staff, I think it should go through staff first. Staff, staff, let's be very clear. Let's get everybody's opinion in this. Let's kind of just make sure we all know what we're talking about. Perfect. Larry looks nervous. I'm just wanting to make sure that we don't have a majority of the four people working on it. Yes. So however you want it, five people. Yes. OK. We will have, we will avoid the majority. Are you guys okay with that? Yes. If I'm on the way, I'm pleased to work with Councillor Moura-Bossia. I'm pretty sure it's here. Where were the layers on is? I believe it is the two of them. Okay. So is that okay, ladies and gentlemen, hopefully we can create some clarity from mud. Hopefully we can create a wall. We will have a wall. So thank you. We're happy to wait for your call and go forward. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. We're moving on to item number four. This is a request by me to discuss whether to order review of the Cultural Heritage Commission issuance and conditional approval of a certificate of appropriateness for the property located at 910 North Bedford Drive. And just to create a little bit of context here, I actually don't have any problem with the certificate of appropriateness. And it has nothing to do with the House. The Cultural Heritage Commission was fully unanimously in favor of it. The issue here is the fence that surrounds the House. And I'll let them describe the issue, but I really do believe that I really do believe that it would be worthwhile for us to review this. I think that the condition imposed by the commission is probably onerous and not necessary. That's the reason I asked that this people. But again, just to make it super clear, it's not a matter of honorific and not necessary. That's the reason I asked that this people. But again, just to make it super clear, it's not about the house. It's all about the fence. Thank you, Jimmy. Yes, so with that, I'll do a very brief staff report. Again, this is a request by Mayor Gold to discuss whether to order a review of the CHC conditional approval of a certificate of appropriateness at 910 North Bedford Drive. As some background, this is local landmark number 14. It was constructed in 1901 and known as the Green and Green House. On April 12, 2023, the CHC granted a certificate of appropriateness for a new addition on the site and swimming pool. So everyone's on the same page. A certificate of appropriateness allows an owner of a historic property to alter a restore reconstruct, relocate, rehabilitate, stabilize, demolish or change the exterior appearance of a designated landmark. Some small details about the project are on the screen and the Cultural Heritage Commission unanimously approved the project. As referenced by the mayor before the item was presented, there was a security fence and gate that was approved at the director level in 2021 that became the subject of one of the conditions of approval for this decision by the Cultural Heritage Commission. It was under construction at these times the pictures were taken but you can see it on the screen here. And there were several project specific conditions that were imposed by the Cultural Heritage Commission. I believe the one that the mayor was referring to is the second bullet point on the screen that any front or side yard fencing shall be removed except for the portion and compencing the circular driveway, which shall return at the Klingger brick wall, which is one of the original walls on the property. And if the owner wanted to come back with another fence, it would need a certificate of appropriateness at the Cultural Heritage Commission. appropriateness at the Cultural Heritage Commission. So the recommendation at this time is that the City Council make a determination as to whether there's interest in calling this decision up. And if so, we recommend the June 6 City Council meeting. And again, because this is a call-up meeting, we encourage the conversation to not substantially discuss the actual project, but just whether there is interest in calling the project up at this time. Thank you. Thank you for that. And for clarity, obviously, I really just wanted the council to re-address this issue. I would, on the basis of that conversation, if we do call it up, I would make my decision at that. The idea is, do you want to hear this issue? I know we do have public comment from Mr. Noah Fury. You know, of course, but let's take the public comment. Fury. Good afternoon, Mayor Gold, Vice Mayor Freeman, members of the Council. I'm here speaking today as a resident and someone who has a little bit of knowledge on this landmark and the process. I support the certificate of appropriateness that the Cultural Heritage Commission approved, but I also have some concern about some of the conditions of approval, and specifically the condition removing their fence that was previously approved. What's important, if you do take this up, is when somebody agrees to landmark their property, they should be afforded all of the rights that anyone else could have. And I think that that's the issue that you need to take up. And I strongly support that you guys review this. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Do we have any other public comment? We have no other public comment on this this. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Do we have any other public comment? We have no other public comment on this item. Thank you. So we'll take questions and comments. I'd like to hear more about this so I'm in favor of it. Thank you. I'm in favor of it as well. If the council calls it up or we allow to, we don't have to restrict it to the fence. We can go and look at other conditions, correct, and we can look about imposing new conditions as well, correct? I would ask Larry to chime in, but I believe you would be looking at the certificate of appropriateness as a whole, including all conditions. It's a novel hearing on this. So if we felt that there should be additional regulations or additional things, we could look at instituting those as well. Yeah, I'm not sure what you mean by additional regulations. That's like a legislative. No, not regulations, but additional, in other words, in order to- Yeah, it's a no-novo hearing, so you would have. So in order to find what is it, a certificate of appropriateness, they find that it has to adhere to the department of the interior standards. And we could, in theory, if we wanted to say that, oh, the planning, sorry, the Cultural Heritage Commission missed out on something. And these are other things that should be done. In addition to looking at the fence correct. Right. Okay. Thank you. Yeah. Okay. I'll also. Looks like it doesn't matter what I say. I'll go along with it. Okay. So what was the date? June 6th City Council meeting. Thank you very much. Okay. Moving to item number five. Is that acceptance of the June 6th because the mayor absent objection can set the date. So it would be very happy to say I thought I did that to set the date of June 6th. Thank you. Okay thank you. Item number five this is a recommendation of the Beverly Hills City Council. Roeday O' events, holiday program, liaison committee. We've got a short and these things. All right, I'm going to turn this over to your assistant city manager, Mr. Ryan Goliak. I do. Let me finish reading it please, regarding direct city staff to bid and determine costing for new sidewalk security barriers, ballards for rodeo drive, to replace the existing sidewalk security barriers, dark green concrete, and return to city council with a project cost and mapping. Okay, now. My apologies. Good afternoon. Mayor, council members. Again, Laura Byree, Marketing and Economic Sustainability Manager. I'm going to have joined today by Mr. Ryan Goliq, your assistant city manager. I want to do want to acknowledge we have members of the Rodeo Drive property owners that are here in attendance today, including Dar Mabubi, Evan Meyer. Bruce Meyer was here earlier. We do have Mark Tronstein, as well as the property manager for two Rodeo Mr. Bill Wiley. Some of them have pulled speaker cards and we'll be asking to speak later and we also have the President of the Rodeo Drive Committee Ms. Kathy Gohari. At this time I'll turn it over to Ryan Goh to give the presentation. Thank you Laura. Good afternoon Mayor Gold, Vice Mayor Friedman and members of the City Council. Just a brief report here to talk about K-rails and ballards on Rodeo Drive. Ever exciting topic of it. Just a real brief history on how we got to where we are today. Back in the summer of 2017, the city installed K-rails that ultimately were painted green along Rodeo Drive. This was done as part of our temporary pilot program for seating, both to provide protection to folks that were sitting at the tables and chairs that we put out, and then also for folks on the sidewalks. The thought was that at some point in time, those would be modified to something more permanent. We obviously got into the pandemic and a number of years have passed, so we are now six years removed from that original installation of the K-rails and we still have those out today in order to make sure that we're providing enhanced security for pedestrians and the shops on Rodeo Drive. However, we do have a request from the Rodeo Drive property owners that the K-rails be removed and updated with a more permanent baller-type installation. This here is an image of the concept for ballers updated with a more permanent baller type installation. This here is an image of the concept for ballers that we believe has a majority, if not unanimous support from the property owners along with a day of drive. I know Kathy, Gohari and others will speak to that, but this is what the group has agreed upon in concept. And this did go to the City Council, rodeo drive special events holiday program liaison committee very recently. And the recommendation from the liaisons was that this be brought to the full city council for direction. So if we receive direction from the council, what we would ask for is to allow staff to look at replacing the K-rails with permanent ballards. As part of that, we would need to go through the design and bidding process, figuring out spacing, costing, installation details of the ballards. And we would then come back to the full city council once we've gone through that process in order to get approval to actually proceed with the project. So that concludes the introduction and I know other folks have probably more to say about the topic. Thank you. Thank you, sir. I have two speaker cards. If you're interested in speaking to this issue, would you please give the City Clerk a speaker card? And while we do that, please Kathy Goharry. Hello again. Hi. I just want to give a little bit background about how this whole process came together. I grew up with property owners and merchants have had discussions for us last few years about the care rails. Some wanting it removed, some wanting it moved. There's been a lot of conversation. And the one thing that is certain is we need some sort of protection. The day of our liaison meeting, we had a car driving to one of our storefronts. So this is an necessity for our street. And we were lucky enough that nobody was hurt. But this is something that we have, it's a new world we live in. However, the beautification of the process is also really, really important to us. Those key rails are probably the best key rails in the world, but they're still ugly. And we had an opportunity to bring a group of property owners together, majority at the first meeting, and many designs were discussed. And this was the unanimous design that everybody agreed upon. Does everybody love the design? I don't think it ever happens. But the majority of the property owners at the first meeting, and the rest of them at the second meeting with our city manager and assistant city manager, basically proposed this one design. And if you don't mind I'd like Mr. Mavubi to come up next. Thank you. My honoree of all mayor gold respected council members good afternoon. Mayor Gold respected Council members good afternoon. And my name is Dar Mahbubi. I'm here today to thank you in advance on behalf of the Rodoa Drive property owners for your consideration regarding the beautification of Rodoa Drive. As you know, the K-rails were installed as a temporary measure. We think the time has come to remove the carols and install the ballards as a new design direction going forward. The property owners have approved the proposed design and I'll be glad to answer any questions. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Thank you for being here. Thank you. Have we any other public comment? We have no other public comment on this item. Opposed the public comment? We'll move to. Layers on. Layers on report. Thank you. So first of all, thank you to the property owners for bringing this forward. As we as was stated in 2017 is when we put the temporary K-Rails in place and it was always meant to be temporary. I remember they were initially a concrete color and to try to make them fit in we had public works paint them green to try and deal with that but But the goal has always been, we always talked about that, it would be a temporary measure. And then as Ryan had said, COVID happened. And we stopped focusing on it. It is pretty rare and unique to find unanimous on anything let alone an aesthetic design. So the fact that the property owners came together and found something that they unanimously chose is wonderful. And as was said, number one goal is safety. When these were first put into place, it was there initially because of the outdoor seating. And then even when the outdoor seating was removed, we realized as the world has changed that Rodeo Drive is such a pedestrian-oriented street that we needed to have some form of protection. And this is something that we worked with with the police chief and our PD that this is something we have to have going forward. So, the Layazon unanimously supported the request. We supported the design. We asked that they would work with our police department and work with our public works. And I believe even at the Layazon, there was some mention that perhaps because these have already been fabricated in other places in the world that this hopefully won't take that long to fabricate and put into place. There was also discussion that these could be moved when necessary. So I guess that will be looked at. But from my perspective, this is something that's long overdue. And I wholeheartedly and the lay is on wholeheartedly supports and hope that we could get this moving sooner than later. Thank you, Vice Mayor. So I certainly agree the, the ballards were to be temporary in nature. And although I will miss them. All right, you can have one of your swimming pool. The fact that there's consensus among the rodeo drive property owners as to this design, I think speaks volumes. Certainly no opposition has been presented to us regarding the design. The fact is that they are able to be moved not easily, but as necessity requires them to be moved for any very short period of time. In terms of how they're going to be laid out, where it's going to be laid out, that's still a work in progress. But in terms of what I believe we're being asked to do is to give approval to its design and concept, get the contracts out, and then in terms of placement, we'll be looking at that along with the rodeo drive committee as time goes on. So I'm fully supportive. Fantastic. Council Member Nazari. Yes, thank you very much. So I am in complete support of protecting rodeo drive. rodeo drive is the crown of our beautiful city and it's extremely important. Not only for the pedestrians but for the businesses as well. I'm just not sure if ballers are the most aesthetically pleasing visual for our city and I hear that there's consensus so I don't want to disagree with that. I think it would be important to maybe have staff look at some other options. If it's only a matter of safety, there may be other options available and I know there may be other factors involved. But the beautification process, you know, if you go on La Siannaga, there are some of these ballers there too. Further south, and you may wanna take a look at what it looks like in that area. Given that, I want the committee to know that we support the process as well as the safety for the visitors and the businesses. So I'm in favor of it. I don't know if I like the aesthetics of it. So I'm sorry. Are you assuming there's no other direction to change this? Are you supporting this? I want to support what the consensus is among the rodeo drive committee. If their goal is to have safety, I wonder if there's other options available. They've already spoken. This is there. Then that's what we will support. Thank you. Again, John? So one, I'm wondering if we're also considering ballards of the kind, like for the rodeo drive, concourse, like we have here on Crescent, the kinds that you can go up and down. That would seem to make sense at the front in the end of the street for specifically events like the concourse, which we and other events, like I guess the holiday lighting ceremony. Have we looked at that at all? So, I mean, I think just for clarity for people watching at home so these ballards are for along the street itself. I understand that. But not to close the street. However we have not found that direction from the city council but if that's something. I think that we should look at. I mean we've got 40,000 people there in the streets. If a car's going to crash into it, they're not. So we can do that. So I also, I think we need to have it. But I think we need to be more creative about the design. These are just big lobs. I would think that we could take something that is a specific, unique, Beverly Hills. It's an opportunity. And we discussed this when we wanted to look at, I suppose we were still going to have meetings about replacing the K rails for the for the parklets that we were going to have something that is more permanent but has a unique Beverly Hills design. There are elements of City Hall like the the star, the this, the that that I think that we could do rather rather than just a blob, that would be uniquely Beverly Hills. And I don't know if the committee even considered looking at something like that. But you go to Sweden and Stockholm, they have the lions. And you go to other places and they've got, in Gortland and Sweden, they have the sheep. And they have their unique kind of ballards. And that's, it's great, because you associate it with a place. And I think this is an opportunity for us to get the kind of ballards that maybe people would even then they sell them as small bookends or whatever would purchase, because they're only in Beverly Hills. This is an opportunity for us to do something along those lines. You know, I tend to agree with Shrona. I feel that those get the job done but we could be doing so much better. May I, Council Member Mirch? There's always, we can talk about this for another 12 years, right? To get a consensus, even amongst five people, is super challenging. Our goal is to have the K-Rules go away and to have a baller. So, did we even look at designing something ourselves? No, not designing something ourselves, but there was many different ways of traditional and not traditional ballers. They're like the ones that are at 2 Rodeo that look like chess pieces. Some that were more structured, different types. I don't mind the idea, but I just think rather than again, we have so many creative designs like the star in the Coupola at City Hall that are only in Beverly Hills. And I really think that if it wasn't done, we should at least do that and look at doing something that is distinguished, the street that is unique. You know, you, again, I'm just thinking, you know, other cities have things that you immediately think of. You know, we don't have a, I guess you could say the bear or something, that's the California bear, but I would think you could do something that is graphic that's just a little bit more. Also, we wanted something to be low enough. That stops the car but doesn't interfere with the design of the store. Right, and that's why I said, if you look at in Stockholm, for example, the lions do that too. Something approximately of the size or whatever of these blobs, if you look at in Stockholm, for example, the lions do that too. Something approximately of the size or whatever of these blobs, if you will, but that had a more elegant look to it. It just, those look like the, there's the muffin tops or whatever. These look like the tops of chess pieces. You cut off the top of a pond or something and put them there. I understand where you're coming from. Trust me, getting a room full of people to agree on one design, it will never happen. I don't know how to. We're just trying to accomplish something that is different than any other street. One, I don't know that and two, I should ask this question. Who's paying for it? You guys are. Okay, then really I think that we should at least, I hear at least two council members who think that this is not the greatest thing. Then I think it certainly pays to see if we can find something that is agreeing with the size, the location and all of that that would be more beautiful and more distinguished for the city, especially if we're paying for it. And it's certainly worth giving someone a shot. And it sounds like we didn't. We didn't ask for someone to, again, I'm not saying that we should have small concrete versions of the shield or something like that. But I don't know, even that would look, I think, better than what they have there. And so, again, I think these sorts of things, especially if we're footing the bill, should come to us earlier rather than later. I just want to support one thing that time is of essence here from what I'm hearing, from the Rodeo Drive Committee. So if there was going to be any kind of looking into it, I would want to support the fastest path because I don't want the aesthetics to hold back the safety component. But it's not. They have a K-reel in the meantime. This is to replace it on a permanent basis. And this is done so that it will be aesthetically pleasing. So this is not currently a safety issue. And if it isn't a aesthetic issue that we're looking at, as said, I just, I don't know, maybe it's just me. I have higher standards for our city. But anyway, thanks. Thanks, Mayor. Kathy, if I could just ask you a couple questions. And maybe it's because we were presented with this at the liaison, so I kind of know the answers, but I think maybe we glossed over them. The purpose of the ballards is so that a vehicle would not jump over the curve, right? Yes, sir. And are the ballards placed in a fashion so that a car would really have to perfectly get through it? I mean, in other words, it blocks a car from coming through, right? Yes, sir. That's the goal. Obviously, I'm not an architect, and I don't have the exact spacing. That's why we are asking for our partners at the city to do a study exactly at the distribution award those balls would be. But yes, now you got me calling them a block. Yes. So it has. So it has. So it has to be, the mass has to be able to withstand a vehicle going into it. Absolutely. And the design, the roundness of it takes up more space yet it's low. Yes, sir. And that's part of it also. It has to be, vehicle has to be able to be stopped by it. Yes, and not angular enough for someone to sit on or to put stuff on it. A lot of not to be able to sleep on it and on and on and on. And were there other concepts in terms of a design that was discussed among the property owner? Yes, there was over six different concepts of different sizes, shapes, colors. And can you tell us just in general why those other concepts didn't move forward in this one, did? So the majority of the conversation was actually very similar to council Amirish's conversation. They thought that the ones that look like chess or the ones that were calling me were too common and they wanted to drive to be completely different than all the other streets. And this is something that is not seen every day. This is something that is not seen every day. And again, as Council Member Sherona and Asarian mentioned, we picked a design that has already been somewhat produced and we know it is something that could be available and it's not something that would take years and years of development and going into the whole process to make it happen. And again, these are already in production in use elsewhere and they can, on occasion, be moved in an issue. So again, this is a conversation for investigation of being further details. But what the information that we were given was that they were produced and they were removable. Removable, yes. You could move them up and put them back into a place. And that was the main key for us. It's really important to be able to move them at a certain time. If there's an event, fathers day car show, any kind of photo shoots, any kind of pop-ups that take place, it's important to be able to have them be mobile. That's one of the major points of this program. And once again, there was no opposition by any of the owners on Roe Day of the Euroware of? No, sir. Is there a signature sheet? Do we have that? It's in the book. We have, yeah, we have. Did you see how many signatures do you know how long it took to get all those people on one page? And have you ever seen one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10, 11, 12 property owners on RoDale Drive, ever agree on any other conceptual item that is on RoDale? Plus three more through email. Oh, so there's a total of 15. Okay, well, I for one and prepared to move forward with this. I think that we've, we've, this has been around long enough that we should go forward with. Thank you, sir. Okay, thank you. And I would agree with that. I think that we have 15 representatives of the highest styled fashions in the world. Who've agreed that this is a concept that sets their standards, fine with the standard that they've set for their stores. If they're okay with it, I'm certainly not gonna override it. So I'm in favor of that. Just as a one pass around, are you a year or an a? Okay, a guess. Yes. Yes. Okay, got it for four one. Great. Sounds like we have consensus. Staff will be returning to you. Majority. Majority. Majority. Thank you for the clarification. Sounds like we have majority. Staff will be returning to it a later Majority. Majority. Thank you for the clarification. Sounds like we have majority staff will be returning to it a later date once they've done the costing and the bidding out. Present that mapping to you as well. And so I'll be done in collaboration with the Beverly Hills Police Department. Great. Thank you. Okay. Okay. With that, we will adjourn to the closed session for those matters that are on the closed session agenda. As we get ready to do that we are going to take roll call for both the parking authority and the council closed session and then public comment if there is any. Okay. Right. So first roll call is for the closed session, council member Nazarian. Yes. Council member bossy. Yes. Council member Mirish. Yes. Vice Mayor Friedman. Here. Mayor Gold. Here. The next one is for the parking authority. Director Nazarian. Yes. Director Bosse. Yes. Director Mirish. Yes. Vice Chair Friedman. Here. Chair Gold. Here. And we do not have any public comment for a closed session. Fantastic. Thank you.