The third of October 2023, planet Earth. So as we begin the study session, we'll take public comment. No matter is not on our agenda, please. Are there any? I do not have any comments that are non-agenda. No calls either. Not in the audience, nobody in the audience, no public comment. Not in agenda, is matters going once, going twice? Close the public comment we're going to move to item a one which I've asked be pulled from today's agenda Remaining work to be done before we Present this so if there is no objection. I don't know that we need to vote on that Was there's no objection? We'll move then to item number two, which is discussion Regarding the joint powers agreement between the city of Beverly Hills and the Beverly Hills unified school Well, there's no objection. We'll move then to item number two, which is discussion regarding the joint powers agreement between the city of Beverly Hills and the Beverly Hills Unified School District. Provisioned use and maintenance of educational recreational and community facilities and programs for the fiscal years, 2023 through 24, then 25th, 26. Paris. four, then 25th, 26. There. Good afternoon. Stephanie Harris, Director of Community Services, here before you today to present on the proposed joint powers agreement between the City of Beverly Hills and the Beverly Hills Unified School District. The City of Beverly Hills and the Beverly Hills Unified School District have enjoyed a beneficial and respectful relationship for several years through the use of district facilities that benefit both organizations. The Joint Powers Agreement provides access to district facilities for recreational and educational programs to be offered to the community through the city of Beverly Hills. Some examples of our programming include our two licensed preschools that take place at Hawthorne Elementary School, our after-school adventure camp and youth enrichment classes that take place at the elementary schools and the middle schools, the middle school, use of sports fields for AYSO and Beverly Hills Little League, use of the gym for Beverly Hills basketball and our city adult leagues. This agreement also allows for use of the swim gym for our swim teams, weekend swim classes, and summer camp programming. Benefits of the JPA also allow for drop in use for the community to be able to use playgrooms and sports fields when they're not programmed for city programming. Through the JPA the city is able to provide approximately 32,000 hours of programming across all of the facilities as well as serve over 6,000 participants annually. The current joint powers agreement between the city of Beverly Hills and the Beverly Hills Unified School District that had been in place since July of 2021 was set to expire June of this year. The agreement was extended through September while the new JPA was drafted. The staff working groups began meeting earlier this year consisting of both district and city staff. earlier this year consisting of both district and city staff. During negotiations, we used the previous agreement as a strong foundation and began reviewing and editing the language provided, and we've come with the draft that is proposed for you to approve this evening's agenda. Additions and changes to the terms of the new agreement are that we revise the hours for drop in use and security oversight based on the current usage and our community needs. We've increased the number of district classrooms to accommodate the increase in our after school child care and youth enrichment classes in programs that are offered through community service. We've talked about a pickleball court that will be established for drop-in use at the Beverly Hills High School that should be in place by the end of the 2324 school year. The district and city have agreed to meet and discuss how the transition will include current city programs that are offered at Hawthorne to be continued and grow while we move over to El Roe Dail once it is opened. We've also clarified and added language for crossing guard services to be included in the JPA quarterly payment. And through this agreement, we've also cleaned up some language to work on better communication and schedules. For both city and district activities that take place on school fields so that we don't have conflicts and avoid interruptions to our youth groups. The GPA is for three years retroactive to July 1 of 2023 and will continue through June 30, 2026. The JPA agreement was presented to the Beverly Hills Unified School Board on Tuesday September 26 of this year and which was approved. And as I mentioned, it is on the agenda for this evening for you guys to approve as well. Pending the direction from this afternoon's conversation. The clarity is on the consent calendar this evening. Yes, sir. The financials. So the requested increase in funding from the $11.5 million for the JPA and $138,000 for the crossing guards is to $13.4 million in $300,000 respectively for year one. In addition to the annual payments, there is a one-time cost totaling $1.9 million for the purchase and installation of additional cameras, disc storage, and professional services for the video management system. There's also an additional cost of $50,000, $50,215 per fiscal year for the ongoing maintenance of the video management system and the CCTV cameras. For years two and three, there is a three percent increase on the JPA, making year two 14.1 million and year three 14.5 million, inclusive of the crossing guards. I am joined today by members of the school board as well as the district and community services staff to answer any questions the council may have. Thank you. Do we have any public comment on this? We do not have public comment on this item. I'm in any form, shape or manner. That is correct. Great. I'll turn to the liaison. Thank you, Mayor. I do want to say, first of all, great report. And you made it look so simple with this report. And I do want to say that this took hours upon hours upon hours. I don't even know that you could even clock how many hours it took of working really effectively between our school district staff and obviously our city staff. Really, as you mentioned, the cooperation and the tone of working together has been, as we discussed, I think, on a level that we've never seen, which is really in part to all of you. So thank you. The mayor and I served together with wonderful school board members, President Margo, and also school board member Mary Wells. And as was said earlier, this is the three year agreement. This was before the school board and they unanimously approved it if I'm correct at their last school board meeting is that right? Okay. And in terms of the emphasis, you know, really looking specifically at all the issues to really get ahead of anything and be very proactive. Big focus, for us as a city, is the security and the CCTV cameras and working with our police department as well as the maintenance. As we talked about crossing guards, looking at the specific days and times of the community use, the excitement of the El Rodeo reopening and how that will work with us as well. And as was mentioned, the winter and spring camps and then for those who are Pickleball fans, the eventual opening of a Pickleball court at Beverly Hills High School, I think the very cooperative and really, really working together the mayor and I, of course, may well, I, wherever he would like to add as well. I would say this has been, in all the years that I've seen, JPA negotiations, one that has been really thorough, one that's been very cooperative, respectful, and I feel very confident, really supports the community's needs, schools needs, and once again shows that we are a council and a community genuinely values and loves our schools. Thank you. Thank you for the report, and thank you to all of our partners from B.H.U.S.D. Certainly the school board members are going to remember wells and superintendent Breggie you and your staff. I echo what councilmember Bosse said I think that this was one of the more collab, one of the most, I take that all back. This was by far the most collaborative JPA I've been through in 13 years. I think there's no doubt that that's true. I think a large part of the success does go to our staff, both of our staffs who did work through the detail line by line and kind of flush it out and present something that was both standable and manageable. I also think it's important to say that in the discussion of what this was going to look like, we approached it from a number of different positions to try and understand what the correct number was going to be and pretty much for each of the ways we presented it, the numbers were close, talked by a little bit. But what we got to really did represent, I think, the best thought on where we should be based on the confluence of numbers. Clarity, and I know you said it, but I've been asked this question, so I just want to identify it at the $300,000 for the crossing guards is the same every year. There's no escalator to that. And so the numbers, excuse me, are derived from the base of actually $13.4 million, which will escalate 3% year over year. And then each of those years is an additional $100,000 added. It's not the 13.7 that's escalated to three percent. That is correct. So just for clarity and to point that out. I also think that emphasis on the cameras and on security is something we all agreed with and it makes a lot of sense and the fact that it offers our police department the ability to intervene where there are needs to intervene is very important critical actually to this. Lastly, for those who are hyper focused on this, yes, the pickleball court will be part of the city scheduling system for pickleball. So know that when it's up and running, the public will have access to yet another pickleball car. Further thousands of people who are cheering now up and down. Thousands and thousands. So including my wife. So there is more pickleball in this. So anyway, I, I, I get one. I thank everybody for the collaboration. I think Greenman, I support it wholeheartedly. And I'm going to move to questions and comments. Starting with Councilmember Nuzer. All right. Thank you very much. First of all, thank you for the report. And I know that these types of agreements take an extensive amount of time. So thank you to the liaison. Thank you to staff. Thank you to our school board and the staff at the school board for everyone, Dr. Brayy, for the time and effort and putting it into making sure that our kiddos who I feel are most important members of our community are well taken care of. I have some clarifying questions just to have an understanding. I think that, yes, having pickle balls is going to be fantastic and our residents are going to be very, very happy about that. And I also appreciate that it was unanimously approved, which is important. That means everybody was in agreement. Right now, securities of grave importance. And... So right now, securities are extremely important, and I'm happy that we're able to create that environment for our students. I do have a question with regard to the bond that was originally created and with regard to the CCTV cameras. Was this not put into the budget when the school was being built. So a good afternoon. This was a progression of cameras through the agreement, like they are now. I think that what we've learned through this last agreement is that the cameras are never where they should be. And so it's kind of grown where we place our cameras. We know that, three years ago, we had a long-term construction plan that was built out, that it was really built for what was happening the next three years. But we also knew that we'd be back again because those construction plans would be continuing. Great, and I think that the extended disc storage is going to be extremely important because sometimes things happen and then you have to be able to go back to it. You have 13 months for that. Yes, absolutely. And I think that some of the really high profile areas too that are going to be coming off and being public soon would be the Salter Theater. You know, that's an area. I mean, clearly we've got large areas that are going to be both that we use and that you use, you know, in agreement to share that video footage with you, you know, in these high profile areas. And since we're dealing with minors and cameras, I'm wondering is there a waiver that's going to be shared with the families? Is there anything that needs to be brought to the parents' attentions just so that they know that this is happening on the schools? It's a great question. We do have that appropriate signage that follows the school code to have that up invisible for staff and for our families that they realize that when you're in a public area that the area is under surveillance. Great. Okay. Thank you. And let me just go through my notes here. So I'm very grateful that when we have our school breaks, there are going to be programs at the schools because there's a lot of working families and we really want to be able to accommodate their schedules as well and be mindful of those families. It mentions in the report that there's a three-year grant, and it's almost coming to an end, and I'm wondering what is the plan when that one year runs out for those families? I could speak to as far as the ability for us to offer programming. We will still have that. As far as the grant specifically, the grant is with the school district, so I would turn that over to Dr. Brighay-Danzer. But as far as space to accommodate, we would continue modifying our programs to accommodate as many students as possible. And an issue was brought up to our attention, Dr. Brighay, and I'm sure, I mean, you were actually on the emails, about some of the parents whose little kiddos ended school early and they wanted extended classes. Was that, were you able to work that out? We were, I mean, that's just due to the really great collaboration that we have. What became a need for the community was that after school programming, there was a little gap in between when dismissal was and when the new programming would start after school. And so we worked together to make sure that that would happen. We increased the length of the school day and so that that gap now for parents, they don't have to come back to the school, supervise their students and then wait for after school programming. But that was, we did that in collaboration with the city and also with our parents, and it actually was a win-win for everybody. Fantastic, because we have a lot of working families, and that really made a significant impact in their lives, to have to come back in the middle of their work day, et cetera. So thank you for working that out. Appreciate that. I'm very happy to hear and to read that the fixed shared calendars are being worked out. I remember when our kids were playing sometimes there would be issues with the fields and there was always a hot commodity. So I'm hoping that this will help. What where is this going to be displayed or how can people see the calendar? So it technically will not be displayed. It's for internal scheduling. Part of the problems that we were facing was we program youth sports groups and our after school programming and then the school district and the high school specifically have you know, championship teams and if they make playoffs. So it's going to be a fluid calendar. We haven't found the specific program that works best for us, but we have implemented regular meetings with all of our staff in our point of context to ensure that there's better collaboration and calendaring. And we've implemented better notice. You know if a team makes playoff we're super supportive and we'll adjust our schedules as needed to reflect the need of the school district. Wonderful. And this is my last comment. Sometimes when the school day is completed and these programs, people come to the programs. There may be some cleanliness issues as far as maintenance, bathrooms, making sure they're soap and the dispenser, things like that. Is there going to be anyone addressing that? So I mean, it's really letting us know if that happens. You know, oftentimes, you know, we won't know about something until somebody tells us something that some students might be in there and pressing all the soap out of the dispenser. We have people monitoring, we have more security that are in place. We have the armed security that we've extended their services, but we also have our security that work with the school district that are going in and monitoring bathrooms after school as well. So we feel like we're doing a better job of doing that kind of checklist. It's kind of like when you go into a restaurant and you're in the restroom and you see that somebody's monitoring on a regular basis. We're putting more systems in place so that after school those are being checked so that we don't have to wait until somebody tells us. Fantastic, thank you. Well, I see that you are putting a lot of systems in place just to have transparency and to help people accountable and we're looking forward to this partnership. Thank you. Thank you very much. Will you support this? Yes. Thank you. Thank you very much. So you support this? Yes. Thank you. Well, yes, obviously I supported. Thank you again mayor for allowing me to sit on this liaison. I again want to echo what the mayor and I have said. Firstly and foremostly to our school district and our city staff to really be so proactive and look at these agreements in a way that has never been done as long as I've known of the JPA that this has been so proactive and really looking at any hole and fixing it. And again, so collaboratively. So I thank you to the school board for supporting this. And I think this is going to be an incredible, incredible agreement for our community and wholeheartedly and excited about it. So thank you. Great. Thank you So thank you. Great, thank you. Thank you, and I'll start out just by not bearing the lead that I supported, but I do have a number of questions. First for the liaisons, and thank you for all your great work as well. When we see that in the third year, we're going up to 14 and a half million, which represents a 26% increase above what the level is currently at. I'm just wondering how did you arrive at that figure? 3% more than the year before. Okay, but each year over years, 3%. But it's not just so in other words, the first year is more than 3% over the 11 and a half. If you take so as I said there were a number of ways that we came to 13.4. We start we were approximately 13.7. Well again 13.7 reflects the crossing guards. Okay, subtract that 300,000 each year. So the 11.5 doesn't include the crossing guards. So it's not like that. So the 11.5 had the crossing guards in addition. But 13.4 represented, if we had increased the JPA from the 11.5 to $ 11.5, approximately half a million dollars a year over the years that preceded this. So if you carry that forward, we were about $13 million just there. Additionally, we took a look at the inflation rate, forgetting that and starting in 11.5. We took a look at the inflation rate and adjusted 11 and a half for inflation. We got to a little bit over 13.4. And then there was a system that the school used, which also looks at their inflationary costs, not tied to COLA per se, CPA, CPI per se, which actually got to you a number that was close to $14 million. So, we kind of wound it all up and spit it out again. Except based on contracts with the teachers. Yeah, absolutely. It's based on fixed costs that escalate. So then, okay, thank you for that. So questions for the district is, or are we still a basic aid district? Yes, it's now termed a community funded school district, but it is basic aid. Okay, and that means that the increases in property taxes should increase the revenue available to the schools. Correct? Yes, that's part of the formula. Yes. So how have the past few years developments impacted the schools overall budget? So yeah, I'll let our assistance for business services answer that more specifically for you, Mr. Mayor. Okay, thank you. Briefly. Well, good afternoon, Mr. Mayor. Thank you. And good afternoon to all of our council members and our mayor. Yes, so we've seen in essence over the past couple of years about a three to four percent increase when we're looking at property taxes, which allows the district to maintain that basic aid or community funded status. And so how much revenue are we getting from property taxes like last year's budget? It was about when you account for it all, it was about $65 million in property tax revenue. So, 65, are there any other categorical sources of budget or is that it? It's the 65 million. We also receive categorical funds. We also receive state aid to a certain extent because every district has to have state aid. When you add everything up, and regarding categorical funding and everything else, it's about $100 million. So $100 million not including JPA correct? Including JPA. Okay, so without JPA it would be closer to $89, $9. Yes. Okay. Perfect, thank you. Dr. Breggie, how are we doing with enrollment in the district? Our enrollment is actually up by a couple hundred students. So while the entire state is seeing a decrease in enrollment, we are seeing an increase from last year to the beginning of the school there. What are we at now? How many in the district? 3,100. 3,100. Are there any targets or is it just, you know, it depends on who moves into the city and who is kids and that sort of thing? I mean, it certainly depends on, you know, when people move in. We have had a concentrated effort to work with our families that have younger children. And so we have increased our TK to allowing more students to be able to come into our school system. So we're making a concerted effort to have our younger families, younger families tend to then make friends get into, you know, friend groups and then stay in the district. And assuming that there's some growth, are we going to be okay? I mean, I understand the plan is to when El Rodeo opens, and what year will that pay? So substantial completion will be in just a few months in December and we will then move in this summer. Summer, so so next year and will Hawthorne then be shut down? So at this point, Hawthorne is in consideration for we've had some early discussions about an early childhood center and so those conversations are going to start up immediately but but yes, that our students will be moving from Hawthorne to Elridaeum. So, will we be okay at that stage, Elridaeum and Horace Mann, if we get more younger families? We're okay. We're okay on space. The capacity is okay. Yes. So, that does lead me to the questions about okay that's good that's the timetable. So the plans for Hawthorne or there's a discussion of a childhood education center preschool maybe. What are some of the other ideas? Is that going to be I've heard rumors about you know maybe the district office being redeveloped into you into either housing or something to generate revenue. And the district office moving to Hawthorne. That is absolutely part of the consideration as we're looking at what that available space will be. The bigger conversation is more about, as I mentioned, trying to attract younger families to BHUSD. And so that is looking at that early childhood center, working with the city for having additional preschool sections there. Also looking to see if there is a need for the school district to have our TK at Hawthorne as well. And having more of a concentration on early childhood for our youngest learner. So there is a lot of upcoming exciting conversations that we're going to have with you about how to use that space. So that's not part of this JPA discussion is the use of the new repurposed Hawthorne for El Rodeo, which is scheduled to open for business next year. Yeah, correct. So that's, we had talked about starting those conversations immediately and just creating a vision together to work to see what we could do with author. Has there been discussion with the city on looking, if you're looking to repurpose the district office, on looking at that as a potential location for affordable housing for families, and for teachers, and for, we normally hear firefighters and police, but they would never qualify in Beverly Hills in terms of revenue, but many teachers probably would. Yes, so that's a great point that you just brought up, and that is in our conversation and our design right now, as we begin to work with the city, and the planning commission to see what could be possible for that site. But there's, you know, in the spirit of the JPA, there's the potential that the city could be a part of that, the way that we're now looking to build senior housing on a city-owned property. This is a school property, but we could work together to develop some sort of regimen for housing for either teachers or families or whatever. You'd be open to that. So it's not necessarily spelled out that the district office is used for a site for the JPA. It was spelled out for some of the adult programming classes. But that of course would, we would have those conversations about like what Hawthorne is going to, part of our Hawthorne conversations. Well, I'm just gonna- Nancy had something she wanted to do. Oh, I just, I didn't mean to interrupt the flow. I wanted to go back on Hawthorne and just point out that the schools are called out by name in the JPA as you use a bull by the city, and so I just didn't want it to be put out there that. A rodeo as well? Yes, yeah, the schools are. So, see, again, I'm in favor of this. I would add something to have that the schools work with the city or right of first refusal or whatever you want to call it to partner with the, if they're going to repurpose any other sites because there are, now I think Ryan correct me if I'm wrong, but if they are planning on decommissioninging they have to go through surplus land act as well, don't they? That's correct. They do their process is a little a little bit different than ours, but similar No, I'm talking about the district office And author and should stay maybe too much detail, but the district office is also zoned for school purposes It doesn't have right so they'd have to work but again you know with state law whatever nonetheless I think that should be part of you know it's it's future thinking we're not just You know this is a three-year contract, but we're not we have a longer established relationship and and I think the city Should be a part of any of those discussions Especially if there there's the thought of Of housing now there may be the thought of leveraging that to create funding and that sort of thing. And of course, we're obviously, I think sympathetic to that, but I think that the city should be involved in that. As for the high school, when do we think years that the construction will be finished for B3B4, so that's the sultan and the peters auditorium. Which will obviously be major additions to the JPA. Absolutely, and further down the line is some new construction that's already been approved by DSA for the new conheim building, which is in much needed replacement. So that swim gym is staying. It is staying. But so a couple of years, I mean, I really always like to ask too, but do you have an idea as they're, you know, without nailing you when they're actually going to be able to, when the peters might open, when the Psalter might open. As of right now, we're being told in 2025. For the beginning of the school year. I'm not sure the exact date of opening, it's right now they're saying in 2025. Okay, in 2025. Okay, in 2025. Okay. So in theory, the JPA will still be a part of that. So I guess this is also a question for the council is it's great that there's going to be a focus on early education. What do we think of the idea of offering more for the residents in terms of preschool? I mean, I've been very public in the past that I think we should. We decided that we're gonna finish this, get approved, and then we're gonna come back and start that entire conversation. So, but there are facilities available. It sounds like if we're, Hawthorne's gonna be a- It sounds like there'll be plenty of room. There'll be room- What are we going to do with the TBD? But that so the district would be again once we get through this and we start our next discussions. It's not too far fetched to suggest that Hawthorne is an early education center could also be a location for free preschool for residents residents, and for city and district employees. We are very excited to have those conversations with you. Great. Just a couple of last questions sort of state of the schools. Enrollment sounds like it's up, that's great. How are the kids doing? How are we doing when it comes to college admissions and other kind of benchmarks that people look at maybe when deciding where they want to send their kids to school? You know, every sky's the limit. Our kids are going everywhere and anywhere they want to go in their pick of colleges. So would you say that the trend has been, and it's an upward trend that we do we still, I'm guessing that, but again, this isn't because they can't get in, I'm guessing we still have a lot of kids who go locally to community college as well. Some students do make that decision. Our goal is to make sure that our kids are ready for post-secondary education at a top four-year school. And if they choose to go to Santa Monica or community college, that's certainly up to them. But it's our job and our mission through our educational excellence to ensure that they are ready to attend any. Do we follow up with looking at how many of those that opt to go to junior college or community college and then transfer to like a UC or to a four year college to graduate from? To great point. So we used to not have that data available to us. We used to be at a place where if students that have left us for post-secondary Experiences that they only if they kept in touch with us now. There's a new systems that are being put together to where we can actually Track when somebody does go to a community college and then on to like UCLA We are now starting to get that data. It wasn't available to us before. It is now. So I think that's important because I think for some people, it may even just be a financial issue. I mean, community college is UCLA, even though it's a public school, is a lot more expensive than SMC. So I think that offers a fair picture of where we're at in terms of college and in terms of also appealing to parents who might be considering where if that's an important point for them. And of course we know college admissions are such a crap shoot these days anyway. Right. But we agree with you and that data is available. We'll make that information public and I'm happy to share that information with the City Council. Right. All right. Well, thank you so much, Asset. I'm happy to share that information with the City Council. Right. All right. Well, thank you so much, Asset. I'm supportive. I'm looking forward to finally, at some point, having the auditorium and the Salter back online, I think those are really easy facilities for community events. And once the high school is finished, that will be terrific. And it sounds like there's some exciting possibilities for the city to be involved in both with Hawthorne and also with the district office So I appreciate the work by the liaison as said, you know, I'm supportive. This is You know, I think it is a generous increase in terms of percentage But it's for the schools and you know, that's an integral part of our community. So thank you. Thank you miss bearish most mayor Thank you miss Irish. Nice mayor. Thank you and thank you both for all of you for all the work you've done on this. Definitely even though you broke the five slide rule you're excused by having the one extra slide I thought they were it was a very concise report. You know as a proud parent of four children who went through the Beverly Hills School District and had their choice of any college that they wanted to go to and chose everything from the east coast all the way to the Midwest, I am so supportive of the school district. Having served on this lay on this liaison in the past, and seeing how the growth has occurred between what was the first year I was involved in the JPA and where we were, and I watched it on video the other day. It's just amazing. I mean, it was just really cooperative getting to a point. And that's really a good feeling. The one question I have is I didn't understand, and I don't think it was discussed at the last meeting. But what is the security deposit security? That's wonderful. So we have the security deposit, which we retain, and we will pay for any damages that are caused to facilities during our program. So, you know, kids are a little rambutian sometimes and sometimes during our programs, they run into a wall and cause a little damage and it's that sort of stuff that takes place during our city-run programs. Okay, so is that a deposit that the city is giving to the school district. We hold on to it and they'll invoice us for damages that we need to pay for during our program. Okay, good. That was the only question I had having listened to it. It doesn't happen often. It doesn't happen often. We actually haven't had to tap into it. But in the event that we do, we're ready to. And then, you know, working through and I did watch that part of it too, working through the views versus the cameras. That was just excellent. I mean, just cut out all the other stuff and get to the point. And the fact that some of the cameras and Dave Schumer is here and he said this, some of the multi view cameras are $5,000 a piece. If that's what is necessary in a certain location, then you're free to use it, but it's up to that $1.9 million. That's a cap. That's correct, right? In the definitions in the contract itself for the joint powers agreement, it does list specifically that the district office annex is part of the district facilities. So I just wanted to point that out and that was the intent that we would have access to that facility for city uses if it was necessary. Is that, am I correct in that understanding? Yes, sir. That was a yes from the school district. Oh, yes, sir. Yes, sir. I mean, yes. I believe it was in relation to like the adult ed classes, but I'd have to look to see that. But nonetheless, given the tenor of the negotiations that occurred, we really are a team. We want to get the early childhood education going. We want to be able to work cooperatively getting to the goals that we jointly have. I think that's really the intent of this entire agreement, isn't it? I'm so glad that you mentioned that because that really is the heart of this agreement. I mean, it's a community agreement and I think that we've demonstrated such growth over the years. I mean, to have these kinds of, this is a once in a generation type opportunity for us to have these types of conversations about this next generation of students. And we've shown that it is in the best of our students and after school programs that we're going to continue that through developing something pretty incredible in Beverly Hills. And I saw an article quite recently, and I think I asked Rebecca about it, but there wasn't a different type of survey, national survey that was done in Beverly Hills schools really placed high on it as opposed to the US News and World Report One, which has its own issues. But was it called Circa or something like that? There's a niche report that came out that placed BHUSD in the top 25 school districts in Southern California. And it went even further in terms of the state and I think nationally if I'm idea to have a good time. I think that's a good idea to have a good time. I think that's a good idea to have a good time. I think that's a good idea to have a good time. I think that's a good idea to have a good time. I think that's a good idea to have a good time. I think that's a good idea to have a good time. and thank you all very much. Well, again, thank you all. Thank you all for your hard work. I do think that, you know, this is just the beginning, right? There's more to come. And I think that this spirit of cooperation and the building of this next childhood center is going to be exciting. And I think that, you know, those who sit here three years from now talking about JPA will have many more programs they'll be able to look at and be excited about them. And I think that, you know, those who sit here three years from now talking about JPA will have many more programs they'll be able to look at and be excited about them. So we look forward to that. And again, and then, Breggie and your staff and the school board members, thank you all so much. We appreciate it. Stephanie, you and your staff are staff. Thank you, Nancy. Great work. It is on tonight's close tonight's consent calendar So we may not have a long conversation about it this evening, but you never know but I'm being optimistic and so Thank you Okay Okay. Council, Vice Mayor Friedman has asked that we take item C3 for discussion. City clerk, do we have any public comment on that? I'm just curious if we have any public comment on that other than the audience. We do. Okay. Okay. All right. So let's do the staff report and then we'll take the public comment. I have a couple slides that summarize the proposed bike lanes on Beverly Boulevard between North Santa Monica Boulevard and Doheny Drive. Beverly Boulevard is identified as a proposed bikeway in our city's complete streets plan. It connects with existing bike lanes on North Santa Monica and existing bike route on North Palm Drive as part of the city's minimum grid bikeway network. And planned bike lanes on Beverly Boulevard in the city of West Hollywood, thus closing a critical gap in the regional bikeway network. This graphic that you can see on the screen shows the existing cross section of Beverly Boulevard versus what we are proposing. The 60 foot roadway is divided into five 12 foot lanes, which are wide lanes for a local street. Wide lanes do contribute to higher vehicle speeds and the city has received complaints about speeding on Beverly. The Posted speed is 30 miles per hour, but the 85th percentile Speed range from 35 to 40 miles per hour. By narrowing the existing travel lanes on Beverly to 10 Feet each and the center turn lane to 9 feet. The street can accommodate five and a half foot bike lanes while also encouraging slower vehicle speeds. There's no existing on-street parking on Beverly Boulevard, so no parking would be impacted. Due to the high vehicle speeds and volumes on Beverly, we are recommending that the bike lanes be solid green with green dashed conflict markings across intersections and alleys, similar to what we have on North Santa Monica Boulevard. And we are testing options for installing narrow delineators on the bike lane lines to create separated also known as protected bike lanes. Additionally as part of this project, electronic driver speed feedback signs would be installed to encourage people to travel or drive at safer speeds within the posted speed limit. To get the word out about this project and invite stakeholders to the September Traffic and Parking Commission meeting when this project was discussed, we mailed a citywide notice to over 28,000 properties. We installed a frame signs with meeting information on each block of Beverly, which is a total of eight signs. We published social media posts and newspaper ads in all three newspapers. And we sent an e-notice to our complete streets and mobility distribution list, which has over 1,000 stakeholders. At the Traffic and Parking Commission meeting, 25 community members spoke in support of the project and three spoke against it. Reasons for support included connections with other bikeways and that the project improves safety without any trade-offs with vehicle infrastructure. Reasons for opposition included a perceived lack of bicycle connectivity and concerns that narrowing the lanes would either decrease vehicle flow or make it less safe for drivers. The commission passed a motion 3-to-1 to recommend City Council approval of bike lane installation this year due to the safety benefits for cyclists drivers and pedestrians including reduced vehicle speeding and increased separation between travel modes. One commissioner expressed concerns with the slope of the street as well as the damaged sections of concrete where the bike lanes would be placed and suggested that the bike lanes be installed after street resurfacing. and suggested that the bike lanes be installed after street resurfacing. However, as shown in these photos, public work staff has already begun making those repairs, which will be completed prior to installation. Additionally, the cross slope ranges from 0.6 to 1.1% on the north side of the street, and 1 to 2% on the south side, both of which are in compliance with the 2% maximum slope allowed. Finally, if this project is approved by the City Council, we can install it this fall as part of our ongoing citywide pavement marking project. We welcome your questions. Thank you. Thank you. Vice Mayor, tell us why you wanted to talk about this, please. Thank you. Vice Mayor, tell us why you wanted to talk about this, please. So as all of my colleagues know, we get this large packet on Friday, sometimes early Saturday morning. And when I started reading it on Saturday, I read that portion of it and decided to tune into the traffic and parking meeting that's on a continuous loop that you can watch online. And I saw that there was a very spirited discussion regarding the fact that every, all of the commission members were favorable to expanding the bike lane, but there were some concerns raised about this area at this time, plus the fact that there is in the future scheduled to be some work done in that area. That plus the fact that there really is no connectivity to West Hollywood at this time, and it was uncertain as to when that connectivity would occur, and the fact that in the city of West Hollywood, just east of Doheny, there are a lot of issues in terms of having a bike lane there with its physical problems. I just thought that a discussion here and having the council hear the pros and the cons of doing it now versus doing it at some time in the future would be worthwhile. So before we go to public comment, would you like to address that? Sure, yeah, so we of course feel that doing it now is a big benefit to the community. It does provide a bicycle connection in the short term. We've heard from many community members that that is something that is desired. We did bicycle counts through our CCTV cameras and we do see an average of 53 cyclists on Beverly Boulevard, Boulevard every day. That number can go up to his is 80 cyclists per day. So the upside of doing it now is that we are able to deliver that multimodal benefit to users. I don't know that there is a downside as we are working to address the concerns that were brought up at the commission meeting already. We've begun repairing the damaged sections of concrete which I think was the main concern that we heard. And so we are prepared to move forward if it is decided and repairing the damaged sections of concrete, which I think was the main concern that we heard, and so we are prepared to move forward if it is decided to cancel that that's appropriate. Jesse, can you talk about the paint and the issue with the paint on concrete versus on asphalt? Yeah, so we've heard from other agencies that there can be issues with putting the green paint on concrete because it doesn't adhere as well, but we have tested a segment of our own concrete right now, and so far so good, we are waiting to see if that will work out. How long has it been there? I think it's a couple weeks so far. So it's good for a couple of weeks. Yes, but we, so we are looking to make this bike lane protected as well. We are testing narrow delineator options. So the green paint, if it doesn't work out, we don't think that it would be a critical issue with the bike lane because we would be providing that physical vertical separation, which is a much stronger separation than paint only. Was there any discussion, well there was, a discussion regarding bike lane versus having a share of and can you discuss that? A couple of community members and I believe one commissioner suggested to do sheros instead of bike lanes. Sheros are a pavement marking in the center of the road that indicates that the road should be shared by cyclists and drivers. We don't feel that's appropriate. Sheros are typically only installed on streets with a speed limit of 25 or lower and the posted speed on Beverly is 30. Okay. We're going to move to public comment and then we'll come back to the council. Does Andrew Spatz? And we'll do three minutes. Hello Mayor Gold, City Council members and some familiar faces. You may have noticed I've limped up here. Yours truly used to be quite the walker. You probably know it for the last 15 years. I've been getting around this area by bike walking and public transit, but unfortunately yours truly needs a knee replacement soon and I can no longer walk, but I can still ride a bike. So I'm very, very dependent on getting around on a bike. And the most important thing when you ride a bike is that you have your own little space that you are not sharing it with the two-ton SUV and that you have a network. No one would expect anyone to walk or drive and get to the end of the road or the sidewalk and then it stops suddenly which is what a cyclist are forced with all the time. This city did pass the complete streets program two years ago and my husband was mayor actually, and this is part of it, and a network is incredibly important. I have been many places over the last six months, very desirable cities, Stockholm, Copenhagen, Boston, San Francisco, Portland, Copenhagen, Boston, San Francisco, Portland. Oh, thank you. And all these places are extremely easy and safe. Get around by bike. And a section that does not require lane removal, no parking removal, it sounds like the city is very aware of the safety issues in the concrete and they will address them. And as someone who is getting around by bike now, I think in 18 months delay is unnecessary and I hope very much you will pass this program. Thank you. Thank you. Dr. Nare. Good afternoon. Good afternoon mayor and city council. Good afternoon. Good afternoon, Mayor and City Council. The city did approve the Climate Action Plan as well as the Complete Streets Plan. And I hope that that approval was really for the substance of the plan, not just for the name. In order to achieve the goals of those plans, we really need to connect micro-multimodal network, a bicycle network, and we really need to commit to that. This bike lane on Beverly is really a piece of that puzzle. It's a way to close the gap in our network. It's not a road to know where it's certainly right now connects Santa Monica, Beverly, then to Doheny. So it's actually a very important piece. So what are the benefits of this spike network? Well it helps to slow down traffic and that's one of the things that we heard a lot about. So if you make a lane narrower, then traffic goes more slowly just automatically. And a 12 foot lane, which is what we have right now, would support freeway speeds, speeds of 70 miles an hour. So a 10-foot lane would be the standard for that road. It also helps protect the walkers. Many walkers have come in and said, you know, people are going so fast that I'm afraid on the sidewalk. Well, again, a bike lane would actually be a buffer between the cars and the sidewalk. So it makes all really all road users safer. So now really, if not a single bike reuse that lane, it would still be a safer road for everyone. So it's really, it's a win for mobility. It closes a piece of the bike network. We're really woefully behind in planning for our first last mile. So we really need these lanes for walkers, for bikers, so that we can address people going to and from the metro. And so yes, there are some things that maybe aren't ideal right now, but the timing is important, it's important to get our network in place before the metro opens. How many more times can we kick the can down the road and say, well, we're gonna wait for this piece to be perfect or that piece to be perfect. And then we're gonna have a Metro that opens, we're not gonna have any way to get to or from except by a single occupancy vehicle. So, again, I just think that this is an important part of the network and it should be done now. So thank you for your time. Thank you very much. Corey Clem. Thank you for taking this on. I want to wish everybody a happy civility month for those of you who have been around a while. I know many of you have been. This is something we celebrated about a decade ago. I get, I feel like I'm getting trolled when I see these lines between these things because I know we deal with two pieces of this pie really well. But it's a reminder of how much we don't deal with the third when I see these stickers on the city's vehicle. So I appreciate you bringing this up. I appreciate staff, the great work that they've done. The signage I saw at my window. I know you guys hear from a lot of the community when you do this. Next week will be my 20th year anniversary at Beverly, Indohini. My kitchen window looks out on the intersection. You're probably gonna discuss. I don't know if cumulative in this room, you all have 20 years of experience paying attention to this, fishing people out, being the first person to respond when cars roll over. I've been doing that for two decades, so hopefully my words will resonate at least as much as some of the people that you hear from. I specifically wanted to just kind of touch on the fact that I think that staff did a great job. I appreciate what you saw. If I smear Friedman, a couple things to that. Number one, I had some concerns too if you paid attention to that meeting. From camera to width to quality, staff has already addressed that. I think some folks are going to talk today and talk about the commitments that we have from the other community members. And the goal is not getting people just into, say, cedars or the Beverly Center or other large employers, but the goal is to connect Santa Monica Boulevard with Dohenny, which other than two stretches are being done, connects us to Burton, which connects us to the subway. We've done nothing for first and last mile with all due respect, and that narrative connects it. The second thing is people are already using that. 53 to 80 cycles a day is somewhere between 50 and 75% of what people are already using Santa Monica Boulevard. As you know, a blue ribbon committee was put in place to make sure that didn't happen. It was highly logical for that to happen. It did, and we know that those numbers would be four to five hundred a day if those lanes were protected, which we really tried. So that, even with these conditions, that is already being used. And I encourage you to do what I do a few days a week as walk up and see the kids biking to Beverly Hills High, going northbound, which is a bit of a hill, or seeing people commute to the many companies they're in my neighborhood, and they're using these lanes already with this quality. So, and my comments to the last TPC, my general comment was about Doheny. There was a lot of concern, we went back and we spent three times the amount of the cost of implementation on messaging. And the only problem with Doheny right now is we didn't go far enough and make it protected. We need connected. We need protected. And we are decades behind. And this comes at no cost. I encourage you to hear this out, but to proceed now. Thank you very much. Thank you, sir. Mr. Mark Elliott. Good afternoon, Mayor Gold. Members of the City Council. It's a pleasure to be here today and talk about bike lanes. It's a pleasure to talk about bike lanes anytime. I want to thank Jesse, Darren, and Shana for keeping the momentum up on multimodal. As Cory said, we're decades behind and when I think about years past when we had transportation staffers and officials here who were roadblock to safety and progress. Here it's a very different story. We have a Public Works Department that understands multimodal and is interested in multimodal. That's a major change. I want to also thank the commission for doing great work around street safety for asking the right questions of our police department and the monthly traffic report asking about crashes and injuries. Our traffic and parking commission is also a great advance over prior years where those issues didn't come up as they do today. So I want to thank the commissioners for their hard work. Speaking as a cyclist, and you've heard me speak before, dedicated bicycle lanes, having that space on the boulevard is anxiety-reducing. It tells me where I need to be. It tells motorists where I can be. And it's in separating the modes. It's just a safer for all modes as we share the road. Speaking as a driver, I prefer a street that has a bicycle lane because bicycles know where they should be. we don't have them coming weaving in and out around obstacles and things There's a there's a bike lane for them and I have my travel lane So I urge you to move forward as presented I think you know we can talk about the the whether or not what we're proposing is ambitious enough for the city Whether or not as proposed the implementation is to a for the city, whether or not as proposed. The implementation is to a high enough standard. To me, the most important thing is that there's something there and then we build upon it. So I urge you to support what the staffers have put before you today. Thank you. Mr. Ron Shalowicz. Members. So members, so I just want to make it very clear. I'm here as a resident, as a citizen, not as the chair of the commission. I want the vote against it for, and I say vote against it for right now. I would really, really like to pause. And I think that it's a tough stretch of road. I'm an avid cyclist, 6,000 plus miles a year. I'm out on the streets four or five days a week. And it doesn't need to happen. It is happening, but I just think we need to pause on this one. And I'd really, really like to see Sheros initially, and that we get a commitment that we can revisit this in 12 or 18 months. And see what our neighboring communities do. Sometimes we're the leaders and sometimes we're the followers. I think right now it's a tough stretch that half mile. There's a lot of alleys that come into there. There's a lot of streets. There's a lot of traffic that does travel at much too high of a speed, that if we're going to address speed of travel, I don't necessarily know that the solution is let's put in bike lanes so we slow the cars down. Let's deal with that as a separate issue. And also we're heading to what's supposed to be a very wet El Nino winter, so to rush and to put this in for a wet winter, which for these roads that probably nobody's going to use because of the rain, can we just pause on this matter? I think it's a great idea, I think it's going to make a lot of sense, and we can lay down some stripes later. But the condition of the road, I know we're making improvements on it. There's a big concrete apron, which is not really all that friendly to cyclist. And I know that we're going to look at repaving that section in the next 36 months. And maybe we really do make something really special out of it as we start to plan for it. But I'm just asking for a commitment that if you pass on it now that it's not, we're passing forever, it's just a temporary pause. But I do think it's important, but right now I don't think that the road condition situation warrants it. So that's how I feel about it on a personal level. Thank you, Chair. Okay, thanks. Olga Lidell. Hello, I'm Bik here today, and on the topic of sheros, I wanted to talk about the sheros on Beverly Drive as a reason why you should not do sheros here. Every time I bike on Beverly Drive to get around Beverly Hills, it's taking my life into my hands. Roads like that cannot sustain sharrows. You can have them on places like Whitworth. You can have them on places like Charleville, but for a major road like Beverly Boulevard, it's honestly better to have nothing at all. The amount of cyclists who already ride on Beverly is staggering for considering how fast that road is right now. You're literally not taking away any parking. You're not taking away a lane of traffic at all. You're just codifying a bike lane that already exists that people risk their lives to use every day that's going to drive even more cyclists to use that bike lane. The reason I'm really supportive of this lane in particular is because I have to go to Cedar Sinai a lot. I developed a heart condition after I had COVID. And the reason I started riding a bike in the first place is because my condition gave me a significant mental impairment, random blackouts. I would forget where I was and you don't want someone like me behind the wheel of a car. I started using an e-bike even even when I was on long and hard medication that made it really hard to do anything athletic. I was able to get around on an e-bike safely without putting other people in danger. I have many other friends that ride bikes for the same reason that they have health conditions that prevent them from safely being able to drive a car, or not being able to afford a car that can accommodate their disability. And I just want to say that going to Cedar Sinai, which is one of the best places in the world to go when you have a condition like this, would be so much of a better, more pleasant experience for me biking on Beverly if there was a painted bike lane. The green paint is already huge. The tiny barriers, even if they're just plastic, would be such a great visual barrier to make sure that cars can see everybody using the lane. And I just wanted to say, I'm really looking forward to you today approving this project because we really cannot wait long enough. People like me have been waiting years and years to see better infrastructure in this city. The City of LA and we are already moving ahead. City of LA is talking about finishing the bike lane on Doheny so that it connects to the residential roads in Beverlywood that connect to the Venice bike lane. WeHo is obviously looking at Doheny and Santa Monica already exists. Santa Monica Boulevard Santa Monica City is looking at places that will connect to Beverly Boulevard more easily. Everybody around us is doing this. We need to catch up. We can't be behind. We can't be the hole in the bike network. And I say this, as somebody who lives over on Elm, whose family has lived here for four generations, I really hope you approve this project today. Thank you. Thank you. Jacqueline Ma. Hello everybody. My name is Jacqueline Ma. I'm an anesthesiologist at Cedar Sinai. Dr. Gold was my former boss. And I commute by bike from my home in Santa Monica to the Cedar Sinai every day. And I serve this community in profound and meaningful ways. But once I get on my bike, I feel like society doesn't value my life and doesn't value what I contribute just basically because of my chosen mode of transportation. So recently I've become increasingly concerned for my safety while biking due to the lack of bike infrastructure and our prioritization of people who choose to commute by car. I choose to commute by bike for several reasons. One is the climate crisis that is surrounding all of us. And number two, LA has some of the worst air quality in the US. Evidence shows that this worsens cardiovascular disease, and as a physician, I have a moral obligation to do what I can to protect public health. There is obviously a traffic crisis and our card dependent culture that we have going on now is unsustainable. Number four, the benefits of active transportation on one's physical health and mental well-being are clear. People who choose active methods of transportation live longer, they're healthier, they interact with their communities in a way that would not be possible in a personal automobile. The benefits of this lifestyle project. Thank you. Good to see you. Um, Ertann, I, Elmore, I kind of, kind of get that. Aitan Elbaz. Nice to meet you all. I've been a resident of Beverly Hills for four years now. I'm going to go to the next slide. I'm going to go to the next slide. I'm going to go to the next slide. I'm going to go to the next slide. I'm going to go to the next slide. I'm going to go to the next slide. I'm going to go to the next slide. I'm going to go to the next slide. I'm going to go to the next slide. I'm going to go to the next slide. I can get to the place using a bicycle. And there's not another person that needs to be in the car. And I would echo some of the sentiments I've heard today, which is, look, we constantly feel unsafe driving riding our bicycles. I take that sonomotica boulevard one that's unprotected. And usually there's some thought going through my mind, like, I'm doing the right thing I'm getting physical exercise as good for my mental health. I might die so You know I having a protected bike lane on on Beverly Boulevard is certainly something that I would use and would give me A bit more confidence to bike there even more regularly thinking it's just a little decreased chance that Somebody runs into me. Thank you. Chair. Anybody else in the audience who'd like to address? What have we? We have one caller, Mr. David Gingold. Gingold. Hello, I would be there in person today, except I have a handing a thing in court tomorrow for somebody. Barke Elliott through his blog, Better Bikes, brings in carpet baggers every time who exaggerate why and misrepresent. I've been taking Beverly Boulevard there between Santa Monica Boulevard and Dernohini there. From the time Chase's restaurant was open. If I was there I would be able to show you my visa statement and my discover statement which has about 30 entries of Bristol farms and rouse. I've seen Mayor Gold there a few times. Mayor Gold we were there both last Sunday. I didn't see rouse. I've seen Mayor Gold there a few times. Mayor Gold, we were there both last Sunday. I didn't see anybody biking, I didn't see a traffic problem. At the TPC meeting, Corey Clems said that cars are going 70 miles an hour and there's turnovers. These people talking today are their usual exaggerators and misrepresenters. Peter Sinai is on third street for the medical towers. You don't need to be taken badly, Boulevard. And if you live on Elm, you could take the O'Henry or Rexford to third. The medical towers are on third. These people have nothing to do with reality. Ron shallow, it's told the truth, and he's a bicyclist, and he's a chairman. In my 30, 40 years, and I have wrecked this one, should dinner from the hot food bar in the salad bar at Bristol Farms and I shop at that route. I have never seen a bicycle quest there in my life and Mayor Gold, it's public record, let's say suppose somebody like you might live on Palm and you want to take Beverly Boulevard. Have you ever seen a bicycle quest there? And from the guy who rode down Santa Monica, just keep going down Santa Monica. These carpet baggers that Mark Elliott bring in has nothing to do with anything. The problem is narrowing the lanes. You know, they say we don't get rid of lanes, but they never say we're narrowing the lanes. And there are Athens trucks, there's Amazon trucks. There's the lift. There's huge grocery trucks for Ralph's food. There are in Bristol farms delivering food that take Beverly Boulevard. I'm against it because it would narrow the lanes. I have, it's where I've never seen one by-suit with there in 40 years, day or night. What's the if Mayor Gold has? He lives right nearby there. And if you want to put a share of there, that's fine. But because there's no parking right now from Santa Monica Boulevard all the way to Don Haney it is a de facto bike lane right now it is a it's an empty space so there's no parking no one's stopping them so it's not a bean county comment about how many how many beans I brought in here from Santa Monica and B.S. about going to Cedar sign. When they're on third street, anyway, I think that if you want to put shadows there fine, other than that, I would not put in a protected bike lane. I would not narrow the lanes please. It would put a danger. It would be a danger. The cars almost site wipe each other there now that it's narrow. But I'm for Cheryl if you want to do it. But I would listen to Ron Chalowitz, please. Thank you very much. Thank you, sir. Anybody else on the phone? We do not have anyone else on the phone. Written comment? We do have some written comments. We received 11 written comments. They were all pretty much form letters. The City Council has been forwarded today's written comments that were received in their entirety and for the mayor's request, I will go ahead and summarize today's comments for this item. What they all pretty much said was they were asking for the City Council to approve the bike lane on Beverly Boulevard today. This project does not remove any parking or travel lanes and plugs a key gap in our network. It also connects to future bike lanes in the city of Los Angeles on Doheny and in the city of West Hollywood on Beverly Boulevard. They're happy that staff will also repair concrete, repair the concrete ahead of the installation of the bike lane, which will make it even safer. We can't afford to weigh three plus years for a safer Beverly Boulevard. Please approve this today. And additionally, they added that a major reason people don't bike is because they don't feel safe. Protected bike lanes will help tremendously with that. In addition, tailpipe emissions account for around 40% of LA County Greenhouse gas emissions. Every trip not taken by cars helps keep our air clean and reduce that amount. These comments came from John Barrel. I apologize, I can't pronounce it. John Mizrahi, Nathan Fan, Olga Brady, Goodman Williams, Jessie Ime, Riley McNair, Adam Remba, Jessie Budlong, and Brian Lambert. And yeah, that concludes the public comment. Great. So with that, we'll close the public comment. We'll move to comments and questions by Council members. Of course. Well, I guess my first question is to Council member Friedman or vice mayor Friedman. What is, are you looking to extend this until the streets are redone? I'm going to go ahead and have a bicycle lane connectivity in that area. I just don't think that at this point in time is the right time. I think we should put a pause on it. What was interesting to me when I watched the Traffic and Parking Commission meeting was the discussion that was had. I think I mean Mr. Schallow or Chair Schallowicz is an avid, avid biker. It sounds like he has more miles than well certainly anybody at the day has has and probably as many a driver's license. I think that's a good idea. I think that's a good idea. I think that's a good idea. I think that's a good idea. I think that's a good idea. I think that's a good idea. I think that's a good idea. I think that's a good idea. I think that's a good idea. I think that's a good idea. I think that's a good idea. I think that's a good idea. during the Traffic and Parking Commission meeting was the safety of traversing that versus going on to the concrete. So you're really going to have a bicycle lane that is part on the concrete, part on the asphalt. And it just struck me as a potentially dangerous condition that should wait until there really is a need for that area because the connectivity would stop at this point at Doheny. It wouldn't go all the way down Beverly Boulevard. So while I'd like to be a leader in these areas, I think that right now this is a half mile stretch that really could wait. Okay. Thank you for that clarification and I support that. I think that it's very important for us to have bike lanes. I think it's extremely important for us to follow our complete street plan and our climate action plan and to have that connectivity. I do think that we really need to be mindful. I did like the idea of starting initially with share roads before we go further. And if we are repairing those streets, I think that we need to save some of those resources and do it all at once. Time permits, thank you. Surprise, surprise I watched the meeting too. I have a question, as many of you know, timeline, whoever wants to answer my question. A lot of the concern that was referenced and again, vice mayor talked about and I believe also staff talked about as well was the condition of the roadway and that if we were to move ahead with the green bike lane designated bike lane prior to doing that the roadway would be fixed, is that correct? How would you go about doing that? So actually we've already begun, it's spot repairs that are required to the bike, please. Sorry, that was close enough. We have begun making the spot repairs temporary right now and we are working on a contract to make permanent repairs to that in the very near future. And it is to the concrete gutter, not actually the pavement itself. And I want to, if I can, just clarify just because I think there's a little confusion, the bike lane would actually be entirely on the concrete. It wouldn't straddle partway on the asphalt or concrete because it's a six foot wide concrete gutter. So Chair Schaloets, thank you for being here and explaining why you felt that we can put a pause and revisit this in the future and put a share of it. But I think part of what I heard and I know the Vice Mayor referenced it as well, was the concern that the roadway might not be ready or fixed. And I think what I also heard said today was that if there was the support to support the majority of the Traffic and Parking Commission to put in the designated bike lane paint degree and such and in addition to the lineators, which is staff's recommendation, prior to doing that, would the roadway be fixed or would the cyclist be writing on something that whether it's green or not green or the lineator or not, is it going to be smooth? I think is really what I'm asking. Absolutely. And that's why we have begun. We've made the temporary repairs because we know that there are, you know, over 55 people riding on average every day. So they're out there right now and so we want to make sure that they have a safe, smooth facility. But we also want to make permanent repairs before we put the green down. Okay. So that does answer my question. So currently because we are aware that there's certain spot repairs and need to be done, we are doing that. Prior to if there is support from the Council majority to do what the Traffic and Parking Commission and staff has recommended prior to making a bike lane that area would be fixed. That's correct. So what is the timeline for that? That's my question. When would that be done? Let's say today you had support of the traffic and parking staff's recommendation. We said yes, go ahead. How long would it take, not about painting the green, but how long would it take to make that area really smooth and to the point of where we'd want it to be. We are aiming to do that in the next one to two months. And if there was no support for that, if there was support for sherrows or such, what would happen with that part of the roadway? Wouldn't it be just spot primarily and that's it? Or would we still be doing the full on, I mean, not the green part, but would it be what we're doing now, which is the spot part? And spot is really what's appropriate, not full. You can even see in this picture, this isn't a cherry-picked picture. A lot of the sections are in good condition. There are some spots where it has failed, and so that requires it to be saw cut out. And it's a spot repair, but it's a permanent repair. Okay. So to the caller who referenced that there is, you know, there isn't a lot of people using it. We do have CCTV camera usage that we analyzed that we looked at that said per day was, you know, 53 to 80 or something to that effect. Is that correct? Yes. Using the CCTV cameras, they have AI capabilities to identify cyclists and vehicles and pedestrians. And so we did get that data. We did actually have one day where the ridership was down to 8 and that was during the hurricane. Okay. Do we also, and I don't know if we do or don't? Did we, did we look at speeds of what people, you know, use on that street? I know it was reference that right now the speed limit is 30. My experience having been on that street, at least for me, and again, depends on what time of day it is. I mean, you could go at a certain time where it's not, and you can go at a certain time where it's more, but did we look at the speeds of vehicles on that street as well? Yes, we did. And we found that the 85th percentile speed, which is the majority of people, are driving higher than the speed limit, 35 to 40, and there are some outliers on a regular basis that do go in the upper 60s. Okay. That's been my experience, but again, it depends on what time of day. I've been there at times of day, where it's less than 30, and I've been there at times a day where people are, and again, I'm not clocking them with a radar gun but they are definitely going more than 30 from my perspective. Think about any other question I might have. Okay, no, so I do not have any other further questions. I agree with staff's recommendation and the traffic and parking commissions recommendation and I would support moving forward with what was recommended. Thank you. Thanks. I mean, I think it's clear that, you know, it's sort of a self-fulfilling prophecy. If it's not safe, you're going to have people who are not necessarily going to take their lives in their hands to risk their lives to use an unsafe street. So it seems to me clear that we need to have bike lanes, the fact that it's not a full network. Well, it's certainly better than nothing and hopefully can lead to a network. What could we do to take this proposal? And again, we're not losing parking, so you can't use that old excuse to make it protected. In a way that is the idea that theory you could raise it or you could have some of these plastic ballards or studs or something, what would be the sort of way to make it protected? And that's exactly right. There are a variety of means to make it protected. What we're looking at right now is the delineator, the vertical plastic delineators that would go along the bike lane line, a much more costly, but safer approach would be to change the grade and raise that bike lane up to the grade of the parkway. And do you sort of like a curb kind of concrete kind of curb? Right, there's curb, but typically those are thicker, you know, wider and given the constraints without widening the roadway, it would be hard to fit within the current section. So that's why we're looking at the narrow delineators now. So I would be supportive of, I mean, and also the plastic delineators are not a major expense, it's not difficult. I mean, I would be in favor of installing that now. I just, with everything that I hear, there's no reason not to do it. There's no reason to delay it. We can always up make upgrades if we want. But I also think it is important we talk about other cities like West Hollywood or Santa Monica wanting to join is let them look at what we're doing and say, you know what, maybe we should do it too. And that's how you ultimately create connectivity. I mean, Beverly Drive is, or Beverly Boulevard, sorry, is, it is sometimes a speedway. And it's also sometimes a parking lot. But I think we've got to be concerned with safety, and we have to encourage other modes of transportation. So I would be supportive of the bike lane now and also doing it in a protected way. Thank you. Thank you. So I'm glad we're having this discussion. Learned something certainly by this picture that this is an area that there wouldn't be a crossover between the asphalt and the concrete. However, this is an area where there's no cars parked. You have a picture of the area where, well, I'm sorry, there is parking on Beverly Boulevard at any section of this? No. So then the indicator that's there, the yellow indicator, is how many feet? I can't remember if that's a four foot level. Yeah, that would be about a four foot level, four foot long. And then there was some discussion that Jesse had mentioned about the slope being between what the maximum it should be 2% is that it? And there's some areas that are at 2%. On the south side there are, it's typically 2% and that's actually 2% is kind of the design guidance it's different it's the maximum on sidewalks for ADA reasons that you don't want to go over 2% or you can't go over 2% on roadways it's different and it's about drainage and and typically steeper is less comfortable for a cyclist but it's not quite as challenging as it would be for a wheelchair because it's a single row of wheels moving a cyclist but it's not quite as challenging as it would be for a wheel chair because it's a single row of wheels moving a faster speed but the guidance is more around drainage and so 2% is typical But we actually have lower than 2% for most of the street if you consider both sides Okay, so once again going back to the the paint Is there any other area in the city and other than the last few weeks or whatever the test was in that limited area that we have used the specific name for the type of coating we use? Well the brand name that's on North Santa Monica is Cycle Grip. It's a methyl-methac-relate material. We don't have it in Beverly Hills because the contractor that installed it on North Santa Monica was adamant that it don't have it in Beverly Hills because the contractor that installed it on North Santa Monica was adamant that it wouldn't work on concrete and wouldn't warranty it. And it wasn't absolutely necessary. So the bus pads and the big drainage inlets don't have green. But I have noticed in other cities they do have green on concrete. So that's why we're doing this experiment. And so we think that by properly cleaning it and priming the surface that the methyl, methyl-methacrelate will stick to that. There's also other, there's thermoplastic and paint that we could look at. Okay, so do we have any experience? And again, this is really a safety, this whole thing is a safety issue for me as to whether or not it meets at least a minimum standard of safety to install at this time because as I said as councilmember Nazarian said is it's the connectivity is something we want to see. It's just the putting it down with having only a little bit of experimental time with the paint as part of it that troubles me. Is there a level of assurance that you have based upon the short time that has been attempted that it would be safe? By the time we get to actually installing it, more time would have gone by closer to two months. And in addition, if we are successful in finding a delineator that's narrow and works, the need for it, as Jesse mentioned, the need for the green markings is less important along the blocks. It would be more about around the alleys and the intersections where we need to have green markings, which is a mixture of, in the intersections it's a mixture of concrete and asphalt. But those are our conflict markings where we need to bring awareness to the motorists that there would be bicycles passing that section. So, you know, I'm going to maintain this. I still think that we need a pause on this. I don't feel comfortable enough moving forward with it at this point in time, whether or not the pause should be 12 months, 18 months, whatever it is. My feeling still is that there's no reason to do this at this point in time. It's not connecting to anything that is east of Doheny, so I would still put a pause on it. Okay, but thank you. So there, why does this is this concrete area showing here? It's six foot wide. And that would be the width of the, that is the full width of the bike lane. We're proposing a five and a half foot wide bike lane. What happens with the other half of foot? It will be paint stripe, mostly. We use six inch paint stripes. But the automobiles will ride on both surfaces. So right now the way it striped the wheel path for the outside lane is on the concrete and so that would be narrowing the lanes. Right now there's 5 12 foot lanes and so we would be narrowing them down to give that room for the 5 and a half on the sides. But would the car be entirely on the asphalt? Entirely. And as they move to the right, you're saying there's no concrete they would be on. They wouldn't move to the right unless they were turning at the intersections. Why is this concrete? Why is this not asphalt? There are some larger, well, and if it was asphalt, the concrete curb or a gutter would be about two feet wide. They range from 18 inches to 24 inches typically, but we do have some sections in the triangle and along here where it is a very wide sure. It was different design standards at the time. Let me turn it on. It's not typical. If we wanted, could we make it asphalt? So we could, and that was something I was alluding to in the Traffic and Parking Commission meeting, is that in the future we could look at the pros and cons of saw cutting this and making it a smaller gutter that does introduce a new problem because one of the typical things that faces cyclists riding in a narrower bike lane is the longitudinal seam between the gutter and the asphalt. And so there's a benefit here that that seam doesn't exist. The con is that it's all concrete and it does have transverse joints which can be a nuisance but not a safety concern. But concrete is not a great surface to ride on in a car or a bicycle. It depends on the quality of it. And there are sections here that as I've been discussed, it definitely needs repairs. How much is it going to cost to do what has been recommended? We're looking at around $10,000. The entire project. Right, I'm not including the spot repairs to the concrete because that's out of our maintenance budget and that's needed regardless of whether this proposal moves forward or not. The entirety of the project and how much of that is paint. Largely paint. We're going to spend $10,000 on paint. Because it's a, the methyl-methacrelate product, it's more expensive. Okay. Well, without belaboring the point, I think if the total cost of this, I would basically say not to exceed $10,000. I mean, I'm okay with that. If the total cost of this project is 10 grand and the paint doesn't work. Around $10,000. There were a more expensive project than we had what old. I mean, we're being told by the manufacturers it's not gonna work. We're being told by the installer that they have some concerns with it. And like I said, we have seen it work. We did put it on a very high traffic bus pad on North Santa Monica. That's where we're testing it right now. So it's getting a lot of traffic. And not that law. That law. It's not a long period of time, but we will, before our experimenting is up, we will put it through its pieces. Accelerated where? What does that mean? You can't, in which you're going to drive back and forth and beg and forth and city truck. We will be creative. That what you're going to do. And take out pressure washers and things like that. The delineators? Yes, we do believe we can do that. All right. The question was the cost is including the delineators also. But we weren't saying not to exceed. We were saying approximately. But well,'t saying not to exceed, we were saying approximately, but. Well, it's gotta be in that ballpark. If it's significantly more than $10,000, it's more than 10%. If it's more than $11,000, I would ask you to bring it back. Well, for $10,000, I would take the chance. I don't know. First case, it doesn't work. Right? Everybody all right? Yep. Okay. Thank you. Thank you all. We're going to adjourn to close session twice. First on those items that are on our regular closed session agenda, and we will return About 515 so that we can adjourn again We have to come back for the special close We're going to go into closed session for those items on the closed set. We're not? No, no, no. I was sorry I was just wanting to join, which he said, we're doing together now. Okay. I can't. It starts as perfect. Okay. One more time. We are going to adjourn. To closed session for those matters on our regular closed session agenda. Ahead of that, we will take public comment and then a roll call. There are no public comments. Just double checking. And taking the roll call for the closed session for City Council then also for the parking authority. So those two roll calls this evening the first one for City Council Council member Nazarian here Council member bossy here Council member Mirish Vice mayor Friedman here mayor goal here and the second is for the parking authority director Nazarian here director bossy here director Mirish vice-chair Friedman here chair goal here And then we will return at 515 for roll call for the other special closed session. Is this special closed session? OK. See you then. One. It's funny now that I have kids that said, Mommy, why'd you sing this song? You know this is when? I said, you know, I was a teenager. Yeah, right. You were a teenager. And then what was talk talk? I talked talk because after I did some...