Boarding. Welcome, everyone. I'd like to call this meeting of the John Scree City Council to order this Monday, May 6, 2024 at 712 p.m. Thank you. At this time I'll call roll. Please. Council member Tunky. Here. Council member Skinner. Here. Council member Erimelli. Present. Council member Kaufflin. Present. Council member D. Biasi. Here. Council Member Elwood. Here. Thank you, Mayor. We do have a quorum. Okay. Fantastic. Next item. Thank you. I'd like to invite one of our competition winners, Ahana Torri, to come forward and lead us in the pledge this evening. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Thank you. Next item. Thank you. Mayors opening remarks. You know, I think that we've got so many great things that we were going to celebrate tonight that I am just going to take a pass and let's just get rolling with the meeting. Thank you, Mayor. The first item on the agenda is the minutes. You have your April 15th work session and council meeting minutes before you. Any motions? I like to make a motion Mr. Mayor. I like to make a motion to accept the minutes E1 as Presented. Okay. Thank you Councilmember D. Biasi is there a second? Second Thank you, Councilmember Aramelli or the second is their discussion Seeing none all those in favor Okay discussion. Seeing none, all those in favor? Okay. Passing unanimously. Next time. Thank you. The next item is approval of the meeting agenda this evening. Motion. Yeah, I would like to make a motion to approve the meeting agenda as presented. Okay. Thank you, Mayor Pro Tem. Four of the motions. Is there a second? Second. Thank you, Councillor Mellicofflin. there a second? Second. Thank you, Councillor McCofflin. With a second discussion. Seeing none, all those in favor? Passing out. Next item. Thank you. The next item is a consent agenda. There are two items this evening. An action item consideration to approve the middle of the vice road trail project for supplemental fiscal year 24 local maintenance improvement grant funds and also an action item to authorize agreement with Sauny EMC to attach traffic fiber infrastructure to utility polls. Okay. Thank you, Madam Clerk. That's your consent agenda, council, do you have any motions? I move that we approve the consent agenda as presented. Thank you Councillor McCaw. Is there a second? Second. Thank you. Councillor Ermellie and discussion. Fiber and trails. I'm excited. Okay. All right. Very good. Next I'm sorry. Sorry. Sorry. I think I'm still recovering from the work session. Any other discussion? All right, saying none. All those in favor? All right, passes. Next item. Thank you, Mayor, the next item. You may want to come down. This is recognition of the Mayor's art competition winners. I'm excited. Come down All right. Everybody early on we decided that we definitely wanted to try to promote a love of the arts and participation of the arts in our community, especially among our students and our young people. And so this is the third year of the annual Mayor's art competition. And we have a competition that's open to all of our students in John's Creek. We do that at the elementary, middle, and high school level. And every year I'm always just very impressed and kind of blown away with some of these submissions. And it's always something that I get pretty excited about. So with that, what I'd like to do, a Hana, you've already been up here, but let's walk over here and let's see your art and appreciate. And we, I'm sorry, we had one person that is a winner but could not be here because of a conflict. But so if you would, I'm going to let you do the honors. And once you introduce yourself and tell us about your painting. All right. So Hanna is in grade four. I don't know about you, but I could not have done that in grade 14. But anyway, I'm in grade four. And in this drawing, I've tried to draw the amazing Johns Creek City with kids playing with the trampoline, hula hoops and stuff. And just to show how safe and clean our neighborhoods and parks are. We need to get you on a commercial for the City of John's Creek. And I failed to mention what the theme is. Do you remember what the theme is? Yes. How your city is special to you. Right. My John's Creek. Right. Well, I think you did a wonderful job capturing the spirit of that. So, very much appreciate what you did. Thank you. And that's just a small token of our appreciation. And we've got a small gift bag with some things that might help further your art endeavors. So we very much appreciate it. All right, thank you so much. All right, And then would you like to come up, Prisha, and show us yours? Prisha, can I get you to introduce yourself? What school? What grade? Sorry. My name is Prisha. I'm in grade seven, River Trail Middle School. This is the painting. I saw it from the, it was near the Collie Creek Park. The new one, I thought it was really pretty and it was really big and I really liked it so I looked at this, the horse, the metal horse. I thought it was really nice so I painted it and yeah. You did a great job and you know what my favorite part is. What? The Daffodils. Yeah, I like the two. Well, like the Daffodils. But thank you and congratulations on winning the category from middle school. Thank you so much. And then I'll do the honors for Ethan Ma, grade 11, or a few high school. And what I thought was really neat about this was this was a totally different medium. This is digital. So we had painting, color pencil, and digital. I thought that was kind of neat to each of you chose a different medium. See, I'm learning things about art through y'all, which is fantastic. So I really appreciate it. So can we give them another big round of applause? Thank you Oh, yes, thank you So let's see we'll take pictures With everyone and then we'll do Family would like to get a picture. Well done, y'all. I missed a baby while they're not 10. We're getting everybody together and then we'll get you in your family and the budget. There's still a lot of people in here. That's right, Donald. So we'll be right back. All right. One, two, three. Very good. All right. Let's see. What's the election, Ashana and your family? Yes. What do you have to say to someone? Yeah. So I'm sorry. So you can just come on up and you hold it. Family? Yes. We know you and I have different things. Right. Yes. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. And then and then and then all the council did we do it with the individual? All right thank Thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much. I need to work on some massive ceremony. Thank you. All right. Freshness. So it's two years ago. Where do you want to come on? All right. One last thing, Council, before we leave and the mayor's project and we'll jump into action. Yes. Something else is additional. Just one more. Is there another recommendation? Oh. I have already just a second. Thank you, mayor. The next item on the agenda is the presentation of Life Saving Awards to Corporal Winewright, Master Patrol Craig Parker, and Master Patrol Officer Montero. We have Chief Mitchell for presentation this evening. And you guys, one up right here. I've got two incidents. Thank you, Mayor and Council. Appreciate this opportunity. I'll keep it brief. I have two incidents I wanted to bring before Mayor and Council and our public tonight recognize. Recognize these officers and two different, like I said, two different instances for their lifesaving efforts. I believe that the stories you'll hear really follow the philosophy of servant leadership that we talk about a lot as it relates to our culture inside the police department and service above self with our community. So back on March 19th, Master of Control after Parker and Corporal Linerock were dispatched to an accident with vehicle entrapment in a subdivision off of no crest boulevard. The vehicle in question had crashed into a residence yard, was on its side and on fire. When officer Corporal Weinreich arrived on scene, it was on its side and the female and inside the vehicle appeared to be unconscious at that time. He used his extinguisher to douse some of the flames, but the car was still on fire underneath, and he was able to use his aspatine, the baton that we're assigned to bust out the sunroof, which was tempered, so it was not all the way out. At that time, just because of the emergency of the car being on fire. He was able to pull back the sunroof, but he didn't have his gloves on. Didn't have enough time to get his gloves on and he cut his hand in his thumb and his wrist at that time. But he continued to try to help her get out. Master of the parker arrived. Was able to get the rest of the flames with some neighbors help. So at this point we had neighbors and citizens helping us, which is exactly what you want in the community to try to save this, this driver can get her out of the car. So between Master of Petrol, Officer Parker and Corporal Wynewight, they were able to execute the female out of the, out of the sunroof, to safety. Unfortunately, she was intoxicated and ended up being charged at DUI, but fortunately she lived through this incident and also no one else in the community was hurt. So I just wanted to bring a simple token of our thanks to Parker and Wynewite for your actions this night, which again go exactly along with the culture of what we're talking about and is exactly why we do what we do our purpose to serve the citizens of John's Creek. So congratulations sir. All right, we have our next officer, Master of the General Officer, Jared Montero. Again, another act of putting service above self on April 2nd. MPO, I'll say MPO, I want to keep saying Master Patrol Hauser, but MPO Montero responded to a welfare check on Average Bridge Road, ended up being at the intersection of Average Station's drive where an elderly male, we had continued to receive reports that elderly male was either passed out behind the wheel on the shoulder of the road or was going through a medical episode. As soon as MPO Miterro arrived, he was trying to assess the situation through our glass and just, if you watch the body cam, it's pretty amazing. Trying to speak with him could not get him to come to the other citizens they are helping on scene. He was able to use all of our officer carry extra case and tools. He was able to bust out the rear window, passenger side window of the vehicle. Still was not able to get the vehicle unlocked. We continue to try to talk to the mail inside and was able to smash out the driver on the front passenger side window and get into the car where he found out through a relative and also just by assessing on seeing that it was an early mail who had a pacemaker and looked like he had the symptoms of either a heart hacker or a stroke. At that time before fire arrived, Montero leaned at the gentleman's seat back in driver's seat and began giving him CPR. Chest compressions at that time. Fire arrived. The mail came too, actually, to gain consciousness. And when they was transported to the hospital, he has made a full recovery. So if it weren't for the efforts of Master Crossroom Ontario, the gentleman probably would not be with today. So congratulations, sorry. Thank you. I didn't know. I didn't get the pictures. You know we're going to want to get our picture where you guys are. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Bill, are you ready? Okay. So this is not necessarily part of our agenda but I still want to take advantage of the time to celebrate the 55th annual Professional Municipal Clerk's Week. That's these two over here. You know now the council we may sometimes get a little Discombogulate. I know sometimes certainly I might, but if it weren't for these folks, the organization of government would really be a challenge and they literally keep things on track, make sure that we're saying always within the law and just keeping everything tight and making sure that we respond well to your, if you have an inquiry about documents, if you want something out of freedom free information requests, these are the folks that they take care of that, and they do a very good job with it. And I'll just read this little piece. In 1984, President Ronald Reagan officially declared municipal clerks week for the first full week of May, although it is one of the oldest positions in local government, a few people realize the importance of the services municipal clerks perform for their community. Clerk serve a vital role in coordinating meetings, agendas, minutes, records, and more. And again, we just wanted to take a moment, Allison, Jacob, to recognize you and say how grateful we are for everything that you do. And so Allison, Tarpley, is our city clerk, and Jacob Dooley is the assistant city clerk. And again, we thank you for everything you do. So thank you. Applause. A token of our appreciation. I kind of want y'all to take out the thing that's in there and show it. It's not a gag, yet, one of the... This is the love that we've got for Clarks week. That's amazing. That's one of the most up with. What's the picture? A little. You'll bring it up. Oh, you'll bring it up. You'll bring it up. Oh, you'll bring it up. You'll bring it up. You'll bring it up. Oh, you'll bring it up. Oh, you'll bring it up. Oh, you'll bring it up. Oh, you'll bring it up. You'll bring it up. Thank you guys again. All right. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right, next item. The next item is public comment. I don't have any at this time. Anybody for public comment? All right, seeing none. Next item. Thank you. The next item would be the manager's monthly report. We have interim city manager for presentation. Good evening, Mayor and council. Included in your agenda packet is the manager's report from March. So I'd like to quickly go over a couple of stories and highlights to go along with that. One of the biggest impacts that touches every department in our community is our city website. And in March, we relaunched our John's Creek GA.gov to include improved functionality for events and access to tailored information for our residents. That is when we have a project going on in the new town area that's probably not the first thing top of mind for folks in the shake rag area. So what we rolled out with the new website is the resident resource guide that allows people to enter an address and then find resources and efforts like construction projects that are going on right in their neighborhood and they're part of the city. Another important thing in March was our annual occupational tax renewal process, more commonly referred to as business licenses. They are valid for the calendar year and renewals are due by March 31st of every year. So we have roughly 2,000 businesses in Johns Creek, and I'm pleased to report by the first week in April. Already half of them had been processed, so that's a really good activity that we engaged on in March. Speaking of our businesses, our partners at the Toro Development Corporation, who will be building the mixed use development medley around the corner here in town center hit a really big milestone in March when they closed on the property and announced additional restaurants and retail offerings that are coming to the medley mixed use development. Before we leave town center I also want to highlight a neat partnership with two of our other town center businesses, Alconn and Boston Scientific. At the end of March, we hosted 23 students from the University of Georgia, and as they were finishing their studies in health and life sciences, we gave them that opportunity to come meet with Alcon and Boston Scientific. The tour was thrilled to be a mutually beneficial type experience in that it gave our students an opportunity to connect with future job opportunities and internships and our businesses a way to work on their workforce readiness needs. So we're already planning for the next connection there. So there's a lot going on in economic development, but another way we saw our positive momentum in March was with our construction projects. We broke ground for the intersection improvement at Sargent and Ashwick and Ashwick place and Barton place and what was really special about Background breaking movement was that the neighbors from Ashland and Cambridge and Windgate came out to participate in the ceremonial throwing of dirt to get that project moving. You don't see that in a lot of communities But it's a special thing in Johns Creek March also completed several important projects. You've got pictures in the report from the Pickleball renovation and the Jones Bridge bike lanes and sidewalk projects both wrapped up in March. And before I leave parks, I'd be remiss if I didn't mention the Battle of the Bands that we held our inaugural Battle of the Bands competition. And although it was the school rock that took home the trophy as the best band, all the participants were fantastic. And I think it was a really good example of the Reckon Park team. Finding a program or something that would appeal to those middle school and high school age individuals in our community that don't always find the Easter bunny hop quite as fun anymore. So closing out highlights for the month, I wanna focus on public safety. We celebrated our last meeting, the fact that our municipal court was honored for their drive program educating young drivers, but police and fire were really busy in March. They were both focused on recruitment. In fire in particular, we signed up six fire cadets who all started in April and are headed to academy in May. So you'll more about those guys in the months to come. And in police, we're also successful in recruiting. Although we've still got three working through the background process as of today, each position has a candidate identified. So that is a great place to be in when it comes to public safety staffing. So all in all, March was a busy month from news recruit to the most seasoned patrol officer. Like those we saw just this evening, it is our amazing team and their efforts that make it a great place to work. I'd be happy to answer any questions, but March was a good month. Thank you. Council on any questions or comments? Mr. Mayor, great. This number of permits which have been approved is very high. Yes, sir. That is something very nice. I feel very good about it. And I would urge the citizens to view this permitting process as a last defense for you folks, especially we are not experts in construction. So it happens that the inspectors of the last line of defense we have to make sure that at least it's up to code which means at least our family is safe, we are safe. So please treat this as a plus to your process. Especially we hear a lot about storm water. Somebody else build some addition and that affects your property. Please inform us if that is happening that somebody's construction is affecting your property, especially when they're not permitting. So this is something which our inspectors look out for. I'd like to say that this is a wonderful statistic to think of. 212, 205 issue. Very nice. Thank you. Anybody else? Oh, yes, Mayor. Or yes, Mayor. Thank you very much for this. I love it. I was going to tell you that the signs in Newtown Park look good. Very good. And I was going to ask if you would please have a relook at the where the park rolls are located. And also, I'm hearing it's a little too much near the memorial walk. That was it. Otherwise, they look great and I appreciate it. Thank you very much. Anybody else? Thank you. Those are all positive things here. Thank you. All right. Thank you, Mayor. The next item is announcements. I have just a couple. The Planning Commission will meet tomorrow, the 7th at 7pm. The Recreation and Parks Advisory Committee meets Wednesday the 15th at 630. The Arts Culture and Entertainment Committee meets Thursday the 16th at 630. The Board of Zoning Appeals meeting has been canceled this month. Monday, May 27th, City offices are closed in observance of Memorial Day and we are back here on Tuesday at the end of the month, the 28th at 5pm for work session is 7pm council meeting. Okay, thank you any other announcements. Okay, seeing none, next item. Thank you. This evening we have nothing under old business. The first item under new business is ordinance 2455. This is emitting the zoning ordinance for RZ241 and concurrent variance 241. This is a 5825 Abbott-Spread road and we have director song to go into the further details. Good evening, Mayor City Council. The nice case is RZ240001 with the concurrent variance of 18-24-0001. The subject property is located at 5825 Abbott-Sbridge Road. The current size is 37.407 acres. It's currently AG1 at Crouchville District. The proposed zoning is CUP, the Community Unit Plan District. The request is to allow a single-family detached residential subdivision with 31 lots at a density of 0.83 units per acre. And again, as mentioned with one concurrent variance, this is to reduce the landscape strip along Abbott's bridge road from 40 feet to 20 feet. Details about the location is bounded by the park at Walgreenson subdivision to the north. This stays at Walgreenson subdivision to the north, the state's at Walgonson subdivision to the west. Abbots walk subdivision to the south across Abbots Bridge Road and the standard golf course to the east. The site is currently improved with the horse barn and accessory structures. The site generally slopes downward from the north east and west towards the south. There are two streams that flow in the property. John's Creek flows through the southeast corner of the site, and the tributary stream traverses from the northwest corner to the site of the site to the south where it meets John's Creek. Review of the site plan shows that the proposed development will be served by a single point of access full access curb cutoff, Abbott's bridge road. 27 lots for single found with detached homes and will be located in the southwest portion of the property. There are four lots on the eastern portion of the property. The minimum lot size requested is 8,000 square feet. The minimum lot size of seven lots along the west property line, which is adjacent to the state that will go to subdivision will equate to 12,000 square feet per lot. The four lots located on the eastern portion are maintained in a lot frontage off of Abbott's bridge road but they will not have direct access from the road but be accessed by a private gravel driveway from the development's internal road. Further a 24-year landscape strip along Abbott's bridge road is proposed. There will be also a 15-flanscape strip along the West Property Line adjacent to this day St. Wellington. Approximately 23 acres or 62 percent of the site is located within the 100-year flood plane. That is shown. It's a little bit hard to see. But the red line around the perimeter of the central core of the subdivision is outlining the area of the central core of the subdivision is aligning the area of the floodplain. The applicant is proposing to preserve the pasture and existing horse farm building, intending to maintain the rusted character of the site itself. 14.5 acres or approximately 39% of the site will be used as a common area, and would be accessible to the residents as open space with walking trails. And the proposed walking trail. It's hard to see here, even further this afternoon between the red and purple, but you'll be able to see in your packets. But the purple is showing the pervious walking trail that would extend the existing gravel path. That's there today. And providing three connection points to the proposed internal sidewalk. Two stormwater management facilities are proposed for the development, one in the northeast corner and the other in the southwest portion of the site, which are shown in blue. The elevations, as proposed, the exterior facade of the proposed single-family detached homes would be a combination of brick veneer, board and baton, and cementitious sighting with the intent of creating modern farm house stylized housing. with the intent of creating modern farmhouse stylized housing. Reviewing the zoning impact analysis, the first being the suitability with nearby land uses. Surrounding areas characterized by single-family detached homes with the residential densities greater than two units per acre. The proposed development at 0.83 units per acre is significantly lower than the densities of Jason and nearby properties, unless than what is typically required for AG1's own property, which is one per acre. Providing matching building subbacks and a minimum lot size of 12,000 square feet, adjacent to the state state, it wants a subdivision and locating 8,000 square foot loss internal to the site. The proposed development would be suitable with similar residential uses found in the area. The development would be suitable with similar residential uses found in the area. Related to impact existing uses, the proposed development would preserve much of the existing pasture area and visual aspects of the site as it exists today. The applicant intends to provide a 15 foot landscape strip along the West property line adjacent to the St. St. St conditions to ensure compatibility with existing residential uses found in the area, and the proposed residential development would not adversely affect the usability of nearby properties. The property appears to have a reasonable economic use as currently zoned. Impacts related to infrastructure, the proposed development is expected to generate 344 daily trips, including 26 trips during morning peak hour and 33 trips during evening peak hour. The GDAR project, along Abbas-Riz Road, would include turn lanes, would also realign and expand the right way. Staff is recommending conditions for the applicants to provide a dedicated left turn and right turn decelerate into development and coordination with GDOT and the city of Johns Creek to mitigate traffic impacts that may be associated with the development itself. Full and County water and sewer confirm adequate water and sewer capacity is available. And also full and county school board has indicated a total of 12 to 36 anticipated students that are broken out through the elementary and middle and high school. But they have informed us there will be no impact on school capacity. When comparing to the city's comprehensive plan, the site is located in the Josh Creek North community area. The vision for the area is for all new and full housing developments to be single-family detached and no greater than three units per acre. As mentioned, the development proposed density of 0.83 units per acre. The Comprehensive Plants Feature Land Use Map indicates agricultural for this property. Single-family use proposed will be consistent with the future land use plan, as single-family detached housing is permitted in the agricultural zoning district. The development is proposed with conformed with the policy intent of the Jaws Creek North community area and with the comprehensive plans vision Related to housing which states undeveloped under developed parcels will be developed with similar density or use as a surrounding neighborhoods or developments There are no additional conditions giving support for approval or disapproval of this proposal Environmental impacts as mentioned there is a 100 year flood plan and streams comprise a large portion of the subject property. The proposed development would not encroach into the 100 year flood plan or stream buffer related to the development of housing itself. The applicant has planned the entire development to not encroach. There are two storm water management facilities proposed for the site. One in Northeast and the other in the southwest portion of the property to comply with the city's stone water management requirements, which would be further vetted through the land disturbance process if this was to be approved. The applicant will also be required to account for runoff reduction as part of their land development permit review. The analysis for the concurrent variance, again, is to the request is to reduce the required landscape strip from 40 feet to 20 feet from that on Abbott's Ridge Road. The G.Dot project and the long Abbott's Ridge Road required dedication of additional right away from the subject property. This was acquired prior to the applicant submitting for this request for rezoning. The graphic is provided there, it's a little harder to see, but it does show the new right away in blue, which is the top portion here. And then the existing right away, before the acquisition of the right away, is shown in green. The right away dedication measures 59 feet along the West property line, and about 10.5 feet near the proposed entrance of the site. Landscape strips are typically measured from the new right away and incorporating the 44 landscape strip will further reduce the buildable area remaining on the property. Landscape strips are incorporated on a site to provide vegetative screening and physical separation of the property from the road. The applicant's request for a 24-lancers shirt would be twice more than 10 foot of landscape strip that exists along Abyssa Ridge Road for the state of Wellington, some division. That 10 foot reduction or the reduction of the landscape strip for the state of Wellington was approved as part of the Fulton County Resoning in 1994. For the Mayor G.Dought Engineering drawing show a 10 foot multipurpose trail at it along Abbott's bridge road, which would further increase the separation of the proposed residential lots from Abbott's bridge road itself. Based upon these findings staff would support granting of the concurrent variance as requested. As a result of the analysis staff recommends approval with conditions of land use petition RZ24001 and concurrent variance, VZ24001. The planning commission at their hearing on April 16 recommended approval with staff conditions, but added two modifications to the conditions. Specifically condition number eight in order to maintain the visual sort of ability to look into the farm area itself. Staff is in agreement of removing the requirement for shadow box privacy of fencing and replacing it with black aluminum ornamental fence. And then condition number 11, specifying the exact amount that would be provided by the applicant in order to provide for the left turn lane into the subdivision of which is $75,000. Thank you. Thank you, Director Song. And with that, I'd like to open the public hearing for RZ-24-001 and VC-24-001. This hearing will allow 20 minutes per side. All those wishing to speak in favor of this matter. Please come forward. And before you get started, just so that you know, so whatever time is left, or there will be a play of time for opposition to be able to say your piece as well. Thank you. Go ahead. Kenneth with 350 Research Court. To follow along, I've got. Am I allowed to give you guys handouts of the presentation? Sometimes on the monitor, I know it might be harder to see. To the clerk. I think I have an extra. I'm sorry. Everybody. I know which way this goes. And so this is the project for Reynolds Farm has been stated. It's the 37.4 acres property that the Reynolds family has. Really our goal and the property from the time we started it, started the community meetings was to create a very elegant, basically, farm that can continue to have that feel. You see a lot of them as you go in this area as you keep going up into Milton and so many places where using different type of materials, different type of preservation on the property, and what we really want to make sure is that we're kind of preserving so many of the views of the property, And I'll walk you guys through what we mean when we're looking at this. Here's the property in context. You see it has the surrounding with Wellington on the top. Then you also have the golf course on the eastern side there. And then this is obviously housed to the project on Abbott where it's going to relocate, soften the curve out. And we'll talk about why that's important coming up on the project, as well as provide a new intersection at this intersection that's the reason we located our intersection at that location so that we are congruent with the plans that were provided to us from your public works director. This is a zoom in location looking at it and so as we're going to talk about some of the different things that we propose different things that we've changed for the community from the meetings. You can see kind of where on the left property line how the farm goes all the way up to the property and then it goes all the way to the right. And then we have some different clusters of trees and really a big view shed as you're coming around. If you're traveling north on Abbott and you're coming around that corner, you have a major view shed of the property looking out across it and you can actually see the barn in the distance. And so kind of designate what we're looking at doing. Make sure I remember how to do this. So the barn that's here is in really good condition. When you go out there, it's very nice. This would remain and this would remain on the property and continue to be used as such. There is an older structure that is back here on the property that would be removed and removed from the property. It's not in good condition as far as the site is concerned. Looking at has been stated, looking at the comp plan and the land used for the zoning. A lot of discussions with staff about the best way to approach this property and doing it as a CUP to max the surrounding uses, but also being able to have different type of styles and sizes. There was, we're looking at some of the different sizes, the HOA land. There was a couple of comments from a planning commission, we had a couple of people that spoke, and there was a little bit of confusion about H.O.A. land and just making sure that all the lights that we show on that will encompass the 12,000 square feet is the total light and it doesn't have common area. There were some questions from the neighbors about that as we went along. The shows in terms of that density, the up to three for the area, our density sits at 0.83. Even if you actually took out all the flood plane on the land, it would still be just a barely above two, and so which is lower than Wilmington in the area and the other subdivisions that been showed on the chart. But we're sitting at 0.83 as calculated and really want to walk through as we go over the plans about our process. So we started the process, we had initial community meeting that was hosted, we probably had about 35 people in which this was our initial plan. And so it was 38 single family not lots. We had five single family lots on the eastern side, then we had the additional lots that were on the western side. And our initial thought was that we were looking at the estates of Wellington and trying to line up the same number on that western side as there were against us. We got a lot of different feedback about there. A narrower than the lots. We didn't have, you know, is there any type of buffering because it's a farm and to kind of walk you guys through. And then also on the north side up here, we were able to talk to a gentleman named Chris who has a house up here and he was talking about the runoff that came down from the neighborhood in that area and what can we do in looking at that. And so this is our new plan in response to that that we had the second community meeting on from this. You can see that we took out one of the state lots up here on the right and we added a stormwater facility. All of these estate lots up here are going to have their own storm water underground as well for the roof drains and so they'll have kind of double protection coming in. And the idea for these is they actually go all the way down so they have public right away frontage. All of them are closer to two to three to three and a half acres depending on which one. And they will be accessed by a private gravel drive. You see this as you get up, you know, kind of going even further a little bit north. You see a lot of the gravel drives that are up there for accessing some of the private homes. But this would be a common driveway managed by the HWA. It would meet fire department radius we met with the fire department got the comments about the width. The culvert that is here would be replaced with a new culvert to make sure. Also the Abbott bridge development is the new roadway by GDOT. That is actually upgrading the culvert under the bridge and that will make a huge impact in terms of the downstream and also this conditions on the side coming in on the left side that that western side of the property We drop down from 38 to 31 lots total So that 20 something percent that we reduce down where we really tried to focus on that beside them. The right side was also on the left. And so if you're looking at the new plan, we have a 15-foot landscape strip that we put in here on the homes that are adjacent. There's not a landscape strip. And so the farm actually comes up, and I'll show you guys in the back of the presentation how this works out. But the reason that we are looking at Evergreen's both from neighbors' comments as well as fencing going along here. But we widened all of these lots. So every one of the lots that are along here were widened to be side load essentially matching all the widths that are along the houses here. And so now we only have seven houses along here. We also turn the road like this so we wouldn't have an eighth house along here. And then as you go through here, we have the houses. All these houses, the ideas that they would all overlook the farm in the Meadow area from their back decks, same here. And then this kind of shows, it's kind of interesting how it came out. There was a really large, right away, dedication of which Ben had mentioned, which was kind of the catalyst for the variance we're looking at, and I'll talk through about how we can continue the planning this required, even with the variance, and what we can do in that area. But really, the biggest thing when you're looking at the plan is when you drive around the corner, all the trees that are here on the corner, the reason we wanted to change that shadow box comment was we want to be able to see through. We want the public to see through. Continue to see the farm, see the horses, continue to see the pasture all the way through here. So all of the views along here will remain unobstructed. When you get down here in front of the homes, the homes are actually going to be elevated because the grade raises up really high and I'll talk about how we're landscaping that because anytime you're elevated above it's a lot easier to screen from that elevation. This is our zoning plan that we have for this as I said with the CUP. Even if you take out the stream buffers, the undisturbed stream buffers were still over 39% open space on the project that are sitting there. And we also as part of working with Rushi and Ben, all of our setbacks matched the adjacent subdivision setbacks, whether it was rear setbacks, to making sure that we're compliant on that, if there's a buffer, there's a buffer same type of conditions that we looked at there. This actually shows on Abbott on the G dot, this actually shows how the road is getting softened out. And the reason this is important is the view shed that we want to protect and let it continue to be the way it is today. This softening of this curve is really going to open up kind of this entire area. And we're really trying to, there's a lot of really good trails that are out there today and we're trying to carry that forward and make sure that that is that same tradition of how that looks carries forward. And so this is that view we're talking about. All the homes will be set back to the right. You can see the barn that sits back here. Now granted it is 700, 800 feet back into the property along distance, but we want to continue this view and that's where the fence came in to where that was really important as part of what we were trying to do. The architect, I have a McKinley Homes with me here. They've done lots of different the Homes and Country Club and the South, and they're really looking forward to doing this. Price points are going to be in that 900s up into the millions, and the custom homes on the right, the four, those will be custom homes and so they would be higher than that. Square footages would start at 2800 and obviously go into the threes and 4,000s for the sizes and the custom homes can even get larger than that. These are some of the different ones, making sure we have the brick, all the different styles from that new style farmhouse that is shown and want to have a different variety so that there's not the same type of house side by side next to each other, but offer a lot of different variety within the housing. Different type of public engagement, we had the initial meeting, we made changes, had a secondary meeting with that to be able to show the changes and then we've been a lot to do a lot of different staff meeting following up and then responding to comments that we have received. I thought this is really good picture we tried to go out there to be able to bring to you guys about how it feels and can see. So this is where you're elevated above the road and so when I show you guys the frontage landscape. This is where you're sitting up and it's probably about a 12 foot area that it's above the road. So it's easy for us to screen from people riding down the road. This is the Western property line. So this shows you where we're going to show you the evergreen buffer and fence that we're proposing to put in, making sure that when we first had our plan, we had our plan just matching the setbacks on Wellington the revised plan Put that buffer in there But then it also pushed everything all the development away from Wellington so that we don't impact critical root zone of those trees That was another big item that we were looking to do and this just shows another view of that Western property line These are two exhibits that we planned that western property line. These are two exhibits that we planned. This is basically putting in, we looked at the ordinance for that landscape strip and wanted to make sure we can still provide that really heavy strip along the front edge and be able to have those homes screened. And then also this is that western. Now the orientation is turned on its side. The north that shows on the screen is actually the western property line line But this would be that staggered row and fencing down along Wellington that would run along that entire period Of the track like I said we're really excited We really want to preserve this and make it feel like what it does today adding in really really nice homes But being able to utilize the farm as it is with the horses Continuing to remain and being able to have the walking trails throughout the entire community and really have a more of a passive really nice farm community as part of this. And with that I can take any questions you guys may have or reserve our time for rebuttal. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Have a card from Miss Flowers. Come on up. Hello. I'm Theresa Flowers. I'm a homeowner at a state of Wellington. I live at 111545 Donington Drive. I have lived there for 20 years and enjoyed a beautiful view of the horse farm. It's been my peace, my serenity. I live and work out of my home. I'm there all the time. I'm very concerned about not only the view being well it's going to disappear basically because I'll be looking at the back of someone's house you know maybe a ugly fence versus a beautiful horse or a beautiful farm and I'm concerned about the stormwater drainage. I know that there's a hundred-year floodplain back there and I'm concerned about the, you know, grading of the property and how that's going to affect the water drainage onto my property and how it's going to affect the property values and not only that, but you know the simple noise and desplition from the construction vehicles while it's being built and having families other families homes being so close to my home and so my basically muster and ending my peaceful. Full Haven is disappearing. And I'm not happy about it at all. I've been there for 20 years. I've been a resident of Georgia for 40 years. I love where I live. I love this state, but I'm not happy about this situation. Thank you. Mr. Lim. James. Did you want to speak? Okay, I don't have any cards. Mr. Lim, James. Did you want to speak? Okay, I don't have any cards. Does anyone else want more? You're welcome to come up. My name is Candy Cash. I'm in Cerey Park, live at 1145. I just have six things to ask or consider. And I'll make them quick and you can make a note. Talking to the mic, I'm not good at this. One, there was a mention at the very beginning that in the northwest corner there was a very culvert. And I've not heard that address since the rest of this went on. It seemed like it was a surprise at that initial meeting. So I'd like to maybe have somebody address that underground culvert that there was a home up in that area. The second thing is school bus drop off. Is it going to be on the road? Or are they going to be able to negotiate that gravel road? So that's the second one. It was said that the roads were going to be maintained by the HOA with that culvert that washes out a lot, even if it's replaced. That's going to be probably a major expense. It's not a big HOA. Maybe they can fund to maintain those roads, but if they can't, is John's Creek going to end up funding that for the roads and being maintained? At one point, it was said that the retention ponds, the runoff goes back into John's Creek, which confused which confuse me, so I just want to make sure that that's addressed if that was really what happens. I still don't understand why the cup is needed because even the developers said that the cup wasn't needed. So why are we having the cup? And then the last question is really strange one, I'm sorry, but in the last meeting, there was a comment made that at least two horses were going to be planned for the property, but yet they weren't going to be owned by the residents and it's not agricultural, so how can that happen? So those are my questions. Thank you. Thank you. Would anyone else like to speak in opposition? We're welcome to come up. Hey everyone. I'm a new resident. I add 11155 Donington Drive. My name is James Lim. Me and my wife closed the property just in March. And we were really excited about the view as well, but we weren't really aware of this construction, this going on. So I guess about three questions. What was the timeline for when the developers tried to reach? I heard that they did a community call or community meeting. I wanted to know when that happened. The second question was if the construction would be going on, what accommodations would they be making regarding the residents on the west's line of the development area. And then third, if there is a timeline, what how long would the prolonged construction be going on and also when like an estimated time when that would be started? Okay, thank you. All right, thank you. Anyone else? Just plenty of time if you'd like to speak. Anyone else? Okay. Would you like to use your time for a rebuttal? So I think I think I have everything written down. Kind of running through and backwards away. I wrote them out here. The timeline that we had in terms of the first community meeting, just looking at our sheets, I brought the sheets and the list. The dress was on the list, February, the first of February, and then also again in March. And then those were sent out into about 150 of them roughly in terms of getting that whole area. The accommodations so looking at it's not up sorry. working with staff and then after that community meeting was to slide the homes away, bigger buffer than what was next door to provide the evergreen also to provide a solid fence so the western side would be a solid fence. It's just the front that we want to keep open so everybody can enjoy the views and so it would be the accommodations of sliding it over having the buffer, the double ever green so we submitted to staff as well as the fencing coming on. From a timeline of construction, if we were to be approved, we have to go through plan production and permitting in the city. So both of those together is probably about a seven month process. So if you started today, just call it June 1st, that would be closer to the first of the year of starting construction. So just call it probably March 1st because January and February, we typically don't start new projects because of the erosion type stuff. So March 1st, it would probably put first houses around March in 26. So it would be about, you know, doing construction, building the homes. So it'd be probably about two years from now in terms of when you would actually see homes on the side, just trying to answer the timeline for it. In terms of a couple of comments on the drainage. So we're directing all our drainage. We have the ponds that are situated from meeting with the neighbors. We're able to walk the site. And we're able to see the runoff that came in here. We're able to do also individual underground for additional runoff here. Over here, we have a good advantage that everything is kind of sloping right down. And we're able to do runoff reduction as well as a pond here so we can capture all of that impervious. We can capture the homes and get it over for the site. And so it gives us the ability to do everything's kind of sloping down. We can capture it a lot easier for it. On the six things that came up, and so there was a acknowledgement of on the first plan, the one we had previously when it was this plan. We had the cul-de-sac that went up further to the north before we changed it coming in. And so if you come into this area, there's like a swell and then there's like a graded basically it burns up and there's a pipe that basically I guess at one time they may have been getting, I don't know, horses or, you know, for what reason they were getting from one part of the property to the other but there is basically a culvert that is identified through here and so it doesn't affect us in terms of the homes but it is identified in the neighbors that's something they brought up. For the school drop off we talked a little bit about this at planning commission as well. And so in our context and talking to staff, the roads can accommodate school budgets to come in, but they said that traditionally, most likely, since we have a full decel lane, most likely they will come into the decel lane and pick up right there at that, it's what seems to be what they do in most all the subdivisions in the area. In addition to that, maintain about the HOA, the funding for the roads. And so McKinley is part of doing high end development, will have a healthy HOA. All of the roads that are running through here are going to be public standards. Still, they'll be private, but they're going to be built to public standards. This road will be built to fire department standards and then this culvert will be replaced with a concrete culvert. So it's not going to go back as a right now it's a probably the reason for some of the concerns we had heard from neighbors is that it's a CMP so it's basically an old metal culvert that kind of gets compressed. So we're going back with a more superior culvert. And then the culvert that's getting built here on Abbott is going to a full, you know, double wing as part of the project there, which will make a huge difference. And so we don't have any runoff that's going into John's Creek directly. That is the creek that runs through here. Everything would be back up in this area. And most of it is going to be infiltrating. And then the pond here would go into the tributary. But we still have to do runoff reduction as well as a full pond for that. So we don't expect to have much discharge on the property. As far as the horses, we haven't dug down into exactly what it is. We're going to comply with all the code. But there has been a desire for the HOA to be able to have a couple of horses on the property and to be able to utilize the barn. And that was what the hope is, definitely maintaining the pasture as you see it today and continue to have that and that feel for it. And I believe that was all of the questions brought up. I can ask any, I answer any other question. I'm sorry, I was gonna show the, we looked up the addresses and it looked like they were kind of near the houses right here, right here of these two. So those are the ones that we widened out to be the same width. So hopefully there's also a few sheds that continues to be between. All right, thank you. All right. Thank you. Thank you. And if that concludes your presentation or a bottle, I will close the public hearing and counsel the floor of yours. May I ask you a question sir or a couple. What kind of material is the pervious surface for the walking trail going to be? So like Crusher Run. So it's like a smaller gravel you see at the national parks used. So when you go out there today it's actually most of the trails are actually created like that today. And so it actually works out really well because we're able to utilize them and then extend them kind of through. So a lot of them have started the way that they were using the farm with the horses and everything. We're just able to extend them and it kind of got lucky that they're existing like that. Okay, thank you. Well, speaking of the horses and I know you said they each away may own them or who's going to care for them? I probably need McKinley to explain that a little bit better in terms of those. Henry, Massie, 5651, Clinchfield Trail. Let's see, Director of Land for McKinley Homes. So the plan is that we would have primarily one or two horses if possible for one or two of the homeowners. And that's it. So if we're allowed to, fantastic, if we're not, so be it. OK. So one to two of the horses will be owned by some of them. They will. Yeah, they'll be owned by two individuals, but there'll be no more than two horses at a time, and they'll be housed in the existing barn. OK. OK. Thank you. Is that that road for the private road? Is it gated? It is not. It is not. No, we just want it to be. It just wants to remain very rustic like it is what you see today. Okay. And then lastly, what was the reason you asked for a cup? So in working with staff, everything almost everything around us is a CUP and we have varying, varying lot sizes and it just made sense because we have three acre estates and we're able to come all the way from the back and and touch down and be able to make it skinnier so that there's more HOA land. And so just the style of the development, it fits perfectly with it. And just from a land use, it's right down the middle of which also the code in the land uses. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Mr. D. B. Ossie. Sure. I like to plan. I don't like a few things with it, quite honestly. To start off, what does the side setbacks on the western side of those smaller units there? On the 12,000 foot up against Wellington. Well, no, the ones along Abbott's bridge, the side setbacks there. Well, tell me the ones along along Wellington also please. So there's 15 feet between the structures. The side setbacks for the code is five feet so that you can slide the homes, but you have to maintain just like in Wellington you have to maintain 15 feet between them. So seven, seven and a half feet to the, to the line? That's a minimum. To the property line? That's a minimum, yes. Okay. And you talked about the square footage of the houses itself. You talked about the value of the houses. Are they two story or three story? All two stories. All of them will be two stories. I don't believe. There might be a couple of places to support basements, but the majority of this side is set up better to be a slab. A slab, right. But to get the square footage because your footprint is pretty tight. So to get the square footage, I'm not sure if you're going three stories. No, I mean, we have, I mean, with the, with the law, I mean, the very narrow slide, you know, can support a 45 foot wide house and then at 50 feet deep, that house is substantial. Gotcha. And the side setbacks along Wellington, is that still also 15 feet, 7.5 feet on both sides of the property line? So the, oh yes, every all those are the same. Yeah, we're just matching what we did with Ben with Ben was to match make sure we match Wellington exactly. Gotcha. You're okay. That's all I have right now, but I have more. Thank you. Yeah, I think you answered most of our questions. I was just wondering, do you have any future plans to build anything between the two creeks? No, no, and actually not at all. I mean, this is our plan. I mean, we want the whole intrigue for McKinley is the pastor. I mean, it's kind of everything for the project for doing this. And then also, obviously, this would be our plan. It would be set in here if the density said. And so we have no plans to do that. Thank you. And I'm happy that you're not draining any water into John's Creek. I have a question for the bin. When a couple of things we talked about the public meetings, like you said the developer went or and beyond the entertaining, can you just mention those? Yeah, knowing that is a sensitive property, we advised them up front from the beginning that they would want to have a meeting with the public as soon as possible, not wait until our public participation meeting required meeting in February. So they did have one, I believe, prior to the public participation meeting. Yes. So they had one prior to the public participation meeting. Yes. So they had one prior to the public participation meeting. They had the public participation meeting at City Hall as required. And then they had another follow-up meeting at St. Benedict's. St. Benedict's trying to find locations as close as to the area of impact. So yes, they did two additional from what's required. I appreciate that. Been on the setbacks in the front, like the variants they're asking for, 44 to 24. You said it's twice what we have in the Wellington, right? Correct. So Wellington in 1994, when it was rezoned, they had a substantial rideaway. It just doesn't look like it today. But if you look at the alignment of the winding of habits, now it matches up to the reserve ride away that they gave them in 1994. So from there they were given 10 foot landscape strip. So essentially it lines up in terms of the right away. They would have double the landscape strip required then they were adjacent there. Okay. Now with this new construction and the sidewalk coming in there. When you sit like a 20 feet, it doesn't really mean from the existing Correct from technically Essentially from the curb. I don't know the exact amount But it's 59 additional feet that they acquired on the farther side foot of the right away But you have to account for there's not an additional lane. That's being put into the right away is widened However, you're putting a ten foot multi-use trail so you have additional setbacks. Okay. So it's much more than 20 feet, what we're really talking about here. Yes, sir. Thank you, Ben. And thank you for the taking the extra mile and cutting back from 38 to 31 and working with the community on that. So I appreciate that. Any questions down here? 31 and working with the community on that, so I'll appreciate that. Any questions down here? I've got a question for Ben, please. So, I appreciate every all the work you in your department has done on that set. Like I said, I love the product. It just, from my perspective, it seems like it's the density's high in the usable space. It seems that way. Now, on paper it may not be that way, but it's just the optics of it look great. I know that the view shed along 120 is trying to be preserved, but I think reality is it can't be built on any ways because of the flood zone. So it's by default a vusette, not because probably the applicant wouldn't want to go with more density or more houses. Talk to me about the cup at Wellington. Do you know why Wellington went with a cup versus an R3, which is 18,000 square feet per lot size? And I know we're going back a few years here, but I'm just trying to, it seems like cups coming up now twice recently. Well, yeah, the purpose of CUP in general, Perlordance, is to provide that flexibility, creativeness, and to also preserve and conserve land. In particular to Wellington, actually, Wellington extends all the way from Abbott's Bridge, all the way to Sergeant Road. So it's an extensive amount, or it's an extensive development that was re-zoned in 1990 for Info County. So there were variations. So I lived in one of those similar subdivisions where you had multiple products as part of a larger development and that was a case for Wellington. So the north end that we talked about the parks at Wellington, their requirement is only 8,000 square feet per lot. Above that closer to our sergeant it becomes a little bit less. And then in the middle it's a little bit less. And then in the middle, it's a little bit larger. And then Wellington has the 12,000 square foot requirement. That's the largest requirement for the Wellington CUP. And so the only guess I have with the CUP and why they approached CUP at that time was to create those different pockets of neighborhoods with varying sizes of homes. OK. And just from a standpoint, and I completely understand from the applicant's perspective, you know, a cup allows you to build those type of houses on the left, on the right-hand side, and then allow more density on the right side because of the flood zone area. This seems a lot different than the last project we looked at, because the last project was flanked by two roads, as well as a commercial building on one side, as well as a religious institution on the other side. So a cup seemed to have made sense with that, because it wasn't in the character. This seems, I mean, I see cups around it, I just don't know if it, if back in the day a cup, it should have been some the city ourselves have not made any specific changes to the city. Right, that's right. But that's the only impact I can provide in terms of historical reference. Gotcha. And just from the, and I'm not sure who should answer this question, but the store monitor there. As that goes forward, obviously, if there's repairs that need to happen along that creek, the creeks, that obviously that would be on the HOA at that point. If there's a prop, because it's such a large flood area, if John's creek creates more buildings and creates more impervious surface. And the amount of flood waters increase in this area. Are we protected from potentially mitigating suits on that? Sure, I mean, in general, there's stormwater management facilities that they're proposing on the Northeast and in the Southwest portion. Those are accounting for the new builds Additional impervious, okay great. You know if you control release That's required for the tension in addition to that unlike the other subdivisions that may be surrounding them They would also have to incorporate runoff reduction, which is a key Component right and I thought question run was considered almost non-pervious Right. And I thought question run was considered almost non-pervious. As it, as it, as it compacts, I'm saying it counts as invervious non-pervious. I thought it's, it's, it's, it's pervious. We're saying it's, it's, it's pervious. It's fine. It's pervious that they're able to use that for the trails. Gotcha. That's you. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Gotcha. Gotcha. Okay. Thank you. All right. Another question? So the applicant or the director? Bye. I just wanted to ask a question to Dr. Director Sang. You suggested that the applicant is going to give us right away along John's Creek for stormwater easements? Yes. So as part of condition number, sorry, let me check. So as part of condition number 14, which is last condition, if the city does move forward with some type of stream restoration as part of as reference in the stormwater master plan, then we would have the ability through the approval of this rezoning to have access onto the property to do to perform the work. Do they have any responsibility about the stormwater in John's Creek? Do they have any specific responsibility? I mean, if there are erosion issues, it would be the HOA. And before it's transferred over to the HOA, it would be the requirement of the developer to maintain. So what is that easement which we are doing, what is that aiming at? That the easement essentially is just to perform the actual construction of doing a stream restoration. If we do move forward as a city that will be a separate sort of approval process to the mayor and council. But if we do pursue that based upon available funding that we may receive, may or may not, it just gives us the ability to access that's needed to get onto the property to perform the construction. But that's it in terms of the at the end of the day, once that's done, who maintains, who has to maintain, who's responsible for maintaining it, that will still fall into H.O.F. Under the stormwater, most of the time we maintain a long John's Creek, isn't it? John's Creek falls in our responsibility. City is. Streams, regardless of the creek itself, it does not fall directly on us. Those aspects of the stormwater structures and conveyances that lead off the that come off the public road itself would be a responsibility that we have as part of this stormwater utility but not directly related to the creek. Thank you. All right if everyone's okay that we'll go ahead and make a motion. I'd like to make a motion to approve action item M1 ordinance 204 0505 consideration of an ordinance amending the city of John's Creek zoning map for RZ 24-001 and VZ 24-001 has presented. Okay. Thank you, Councillor Poghary. Thank you. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Mayor Proton for the second discussion. And like, with the top conditions and the planning commission. Yes, that's presented. Yes. And today's memo. I just, I know it's a sensitive, very sensitive property. I've definitely heard from the community about this one. I'm grateful to the applicant for being mindful of that and taking into account community feedback throughout the process. And I know I live on the totally opposite of John's Creek, but every time I come around on 120 and see that view, it's very beautiful. And so I know it's going to be a change to the community, but I'm grateful that you're trying to incorporate as much access to nature and preserving the environment in the state that it's in. So thank you. No, thank you for protecting the character and still building the houses in there and working with the community. So I know a lot of residents have been used to not seeing anything in there for a while. So it's it's it's gonna be a big change, but it's a positive change. Thank you. The concerns we have is our young people leaving our city. I hope you make it affordable to them. For a cool million dollars, yeah. Anybody else? Yeah, I can't support this development and I am familiar with your products and I love what you build. I just think that the look and feel of this on the west side, I think it's not, I don't think it's in line with the character of the area, especially if there's any developments on the other side of the road, potentially with some homes that will eventually sell, I think. So those are the reasons why I am not supporting this, but I do appreciate all the work you've done with the community. I think it's, I'd love to see this product somewhere else, honestly, or if it was just a little bit, you know, maybe larger homes, but less homes, to give it that more feeling that like Milton has that that horse feeling more spread out, I would have liked to see something like that. I'll just say I'm going to heart the attachment to the land as a neighboring view. But our job is to balance the private property rights against the wishes sometimes in the community. I'm going to say that I think it's our responsibility to approve this. And so that's how I'll be. All right. So with that, I'll come in to you, please. Your homes are beautiful. And I appreciate you working with the community, but I can't in good conscience support it because of the negative impact it will have on the homeowners that are here. And I know when I bought my house, I would be so upset if they came and built something behind it when I thought I had something I expected different. And that area to be preserved. So I really, they're beautiful and I hope there's a different place if for some reason this doesn't pass. But thank you for working with them and that's for that reason I'll be voting against. All right. With that, all those in favor of the motion? And all those opposed? And carries five, too. Congratulations. Good luck with the project. Thank you. Next item. Thank you. The next item on the agenda is Resolution 24512. This is consideration of a resolution to adopt the five-year capital improvement plan. You have a Assistant City been it for presentation. Good evening mayor and council. I have to say I am proud to come and present this item. It may be the city's first formal five year or at least first formal plan in quite some time. That expresses your intent of the capital projects you find important to do over the next five years. As you know, it started last fall with a formalized policy that created a process for the projects to be selected. Your department heads worked extremely hard to make requests and to justify them. They didn't just get away with writing a request. They had to come in and defend it with each other. And then it was vetted by a CIP review committee according to some objective criteria. Then you all debated it for several work sessions to really develop a plan that we have tonight. I would be remiss if I didn't recognize Ronnie Campbell, his work on this was, Yomans work. It was the first one and he really had to populate a lot of data and create a document that you have tonight. So I really appreciate him and his team and the work that they did. So tonight, which you have in front of you is a resolution that would adopt a five year plan. The projects that you have selected and prioritized for FY 2025 are these and in this order, number one, fire station 63 police substation construction, the purchase of five police vehicles the second. Third is additional parking constructed at the Colleague Creek Courts area. Four is establishment of a storm water grant program. Five is money set aside for an arts facility. Six is a construction of Medlock Trail West and 7 is construction of Medlock Trail East. And finally, you have two stormwater projects at number 8 Fire Station 61 RetroFid that involves the construction of bioswells. And then you also have Old Alabama Court or bioswells bringing up the rear in number 9 position. You also have in your plan projects laid out for the four years after FY 25, which we will revisit next year during this process as we hopefully continue to use the CIP as an important planning document for not only you as you develop your budget seat here but also a transparent document that you can show the community what you have prioritized and decide it or the projects that you wish to do over the next five years. So with that you have the resolution before you adopting the plan for consideration and I'm happy to answer any questions it to you may have. I got a motion to approve. R2024,4-0512. All right. Thank you for the motion. Councillor Ayramelli, is there a second? I'll second. Thank you, Councillor McCoffe. On discussion. As much as I, I didn't like that city welcome and information display to be moving to 2026, but I think rest of the stuff is good. I'm going to support this motion. I'm excited that we put a plan in place for some of the desires or wants of the city that can enhance our quality of life. Obviously we're not going to all agree on the prioritization. I did not necessarily get to my wish list, but I thought it was a good feat of effort from the consistency manager Bennett and director Campbell to really help bring seven diverse perspectives with different desires from the residents and bring it to a nice functioning list that we can operate off of. So thank you for your pursuits. Casually using the word yoga and yeah, I'll support this motion. That's in style on this. So ambitious. One. All right. Anybody else? Wonderful work. Wonderful work. You created this from nothing. And you know, the idea was out there as floated. You took it. You ran with it. Director Campbell, by your side. Wonderful. Thank you. Well. Thank you very much, Ron. You and Director Campbell. we appreciate it greatly. Thank you, Ron. I know. It's new for the council and even for the staff. So you and Ron, it did a good job. Something to work with and maybe we can build on it in the future. So thank you. Absolutely. Thank you. All right. All those in favor? All right. Congratulations, Ron. Thank you. Congratulations, Council. And next item. Thank you, Mayor. The next item is resolution 24513. This is a resolution regarding the acquisition of a portion of 1-1-555 Medlock Bridge Road for Creekside Park. We have Attorney Carothers for presentation. Good evening, Mayor and Council. This is the first of what I hope will be a whole lot of not necessarily imminent domain activity, but the purchase and development of Creekside Park. main activity with the purchase and development of Creexide Park. This is the property which is right across the lake from here, which is owned by the McDonald Company and Nevada Corporation. We've been in negotiations with them and the parties every recent agreement as to what the purchase price should be, which is $190,700 for $4.427 acres. Basically the seller wanted to go through eminent domain for some of the same reasons that we see homeowners associations doing it. They are trying to avoid a lot of the steps and sometimes it's difficult to get all the steps taken. So they were very much warning for our standardized eminent domain. And we are prepared to go ahead and we are seeking resolution finding it necessary to acquire the point 427 acres and to authorize the city attorney to acquire it by exercise of eminent domain. Thank you sir. Questions? Comments motion. I make a motion to approve resolution 2024-0513 Considerate region of a resolution regarding the acquisition of a portion of 1-1-555-M And look bridge road for Creek side park as presented. Thank you, Councillor Morelwood is there a second? I'll second that. Thank you, Councilmember DeBiasi for the second and discussion. I appreciate you getting us through this efficiently. Thank you very much. Generally, I run the opposite way on imminent domain, but this is what's known as colloquially as a friendly condemnation where the parties are in agreement to utilize eminent domains. So I will support this motion. Would you have made the motion? No. I debated. Like you could quiet for a minute, and I was like, it's curts going to do it. All right. Baby steps. Yeah, let's. All right. Anybody else? Any? All right. All right, baby steps. Yeah, let's, all right. Anybody else? All right, all those in favor? All right, thank you for your help. All right, next item. Thank you, there's nothing under other business. We have another opportunity for public comment. Don't be shy. I know you want to. Anybody else? Anybody? All right, seeing none? Thanks for having me. Bayer's comments? Just, I appreciate that we were able to, as usual, handle our business fairly civilly. That's the important thing, I think. No other comments? Thank you. Executive session? I'd like to make a motion. I'd like to make a motion that we adjourn to executive session where we talk about land, legal and personnel. Okay, thank you for the motion. Is there a second? Second. Okay, thank you, Councillor Moura-, thank you for the motion. Is there a second? A second? Okay, thank you, Councillor Moura-Aremelli, for the second. Discussion? I think that there wasn't consensus in the last meeting to move this forward. I mean, I know I made a motion, but I was trying to take a discussion that shouldn't have been in the public domain out of the public domain. I don't really see any for executive session at this time. OK. Anybody else? We haven't really came to a conclusion that why are we really doing it? So I don't know what we're going to discuss next recession either. So I support what I think is behind this, but at a later date. So I'm probably not for the executive session either. Anybody else? OK. So then we need to continue our discussion from work session if we're not going to go to executive session. That wasn't resolved. My understanding was the consensus was that there was a consensus that we agreed with the concept of doing a survey and allowing the new city permanent city manager to handle that process as they self-fit rather than council pushing forward at this point in time. All right, but now what we're not going to do is we're not going to make this topic a continuation of the work session. I just wanted to clarify. I think of the motion for the executive session. Right. Right. Does anyone have anything new they want to add? All those in favor of the motion? All those opposed? All right. Fails 4th. Thank you. They're enough for the items on the agenda. Thank you. Thank you. There are enough for the items on the agenda. Motion to adjourn? Yes. All right. Motion to adjourn. All those in favor? All right. I think we heard adjourn. Thank you.