I just look now. Sure. Sure. We'll go ahead and call the meeting or let me welcome everybody to the June 12th meeting of the Fairfax City Council. I do need to take one housekeeping and get us out of our closed meeting, and now I'm going to scramble here we go. Let me if I could just add 7 p.m. the City Council included its closed meeting, discussed acquisition of certain property, but public purposes and for consultation with legal counsel for legal advice. I move that each of us certify to the best of each council members' knowledge. Only Public Business Matters Lawfully Excentive from the Open Meeting Requirements and the Virginia Freedom of Information Act, and only Public Business Matters identified in the motion, convening to close many will heard, discussed, or considered. All council members in favor of the certification motion, please signify by voting aye. Opposed? And it passed unanimously with Mr. Greenfield. Mr. Greenfield, thank you. It passed unanimously. Okay, now if you please stand for the indication, which will be presented by Council Member winner and remain standing for the Pledge of Allegiance. Let us pray. Thank you, Lord, for gathering us here this evening. Join us in our deliberations tonight. Give us wisdom. Give us your understanding. Bless our decisions. Bless all those who are gathered here this evening. And bless our fair city. In your name, Rick Bray. Amen. Amen. I pledge to the against to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which the saying is, one nation, under God, individual, and liberty in terms of law. If you please be seated. And I'd like for representatives of our electoral board if they please come forward for the introduction of our new general registrar. So as most of you know, I'm TQ Elections Secretary of the Board. I have here Gert who was the vice chair. And we have Kevin, who is the chair. And we have Timothy K. Scott, who is convincing one July our new registrar. Welcome. Tim's got a degree in computer sciences. He has been an assistant registrar in Sussan's house. And I understand he clicked a little girl, but until very recently, he was the wind and votes that so we buy our hardware from representative us. So this means he is the first registrar of the three that I've known prior to him that had any experience being a registrar. He's having that thing well qualified. I give you 10 strikes. 10 if you can and microphone to great thanks. All I'd like to say is that I really enjoyed my time here in the past as an assistant registrar and I hope to bring even more experience as the general registrar and I look forward to working with you all again. Thanks. Well, last, the end of last week, the City Council, and certainly our colleagues on the school board, and the communities, the whole, had an opportunity to attend a retirement party for George Stepp who is our outgoing superintendent of the Fairfax City public school system. If I could ask Janice Miller, I'd share it. George Stepp, if you please come forward, it was a wonderful ceremony. I think the most interesting thing about the ceremony to me is it was in the lobby of the recently opened lobby of our new renovated high school, which was very exciting to see and how appropriate, at least to me. And I'm sure Mrs. Miller agreed that the retirement of George Stethle was so instrumental and kind of leading us through that took place in the newly renovated lobby of the new high school. But we didn't have as an opportunity as the City Council to say our kind of farewell and go by to George's, he departs for other challenges and as I understand moving down to Texas eventually, but what I'd like to do is on behalf of the City Council to read the following proclamation. Whereas George E. Steps served the City of Fairfetch schools with dedication and distinction from 1989 to 1996 is Area 4 Superintendent and led the Fairfax City schools from 1996 to 2007 as the Superintendent of Schools. And whereas Mr. Step served as the honorary chair of the Spotlight in the Arts in 2007 and represented the City of Fairfax in the Arts Council of a Fairfax County, and the Washington Area Superintendents Association. And whereas Mr. Steps provided the vision and exceptional leadership for two successful bond referendums that funded an extensive $1.12.4 million renovation, $112.4 million renovation program in Daniel's run, Providence Elementary, Cinele Nier, and Fairfax High School. And whereas Mr. Steps visioned for the City of Fairbuck's schools resulted in a state-of-the-art learning environment for all students attending the city schools, which positioned the schools for continued academic improvement in the future. And whereas Mr. Steps communicated high expectations regarding the importance of academic achievement for all students to the community, parents, school staff, and students. And whereas Mr. Step consistently focused on providing an instructional program, the students would have multiple opportunities to achieve as the highest potential. I'm not done yet, you're all right. And whereas Mr. Step has been instrumental in selecting and hiring outstanding principals to lead the city schools. And whereas Mr. Step has been collaborative and open in this communication that has given the city the opportunity to participate in a broad range of issues involving schools. And he has ensured that all stakeholders would be involved in the decision making process regarding the betterment of the city of Fairfax schools. There, now for I, Robert, a letter and consul of the City Council. If you're here by the claim Tuesday, June 12th, 2007, Superintendent George Stepday, and the City of Fairfax that extend the city's deep appreciation to George Step, as far as 18 years of service, for his vision, leadership, and dedication to students, staff, families, and community, and extended sincere congratulations, and very best wishes as it retires is the two superintendents of the City of Fairfax schools. Georgia let me just say in the half of my college but I think that the community is a whole. Let me echo what Janice Ettea and Gerard thank you very much for everything you've done for this community, for the students, for your leadership, for your communication. We certainly appreciate it. We'll be honest. Thank you, Grant. Please. The President and the President and the President and the President and the President and the President Indeed, I'm honored, truly embarrassed. I deserve little of what you said. Truly it was this community and a group of young men and women and people dedicated to do the right thing. In 1996 we all cringed at the idea of the task of raising Megan's dollars and I can remember the first bond was $25, $28 million, and we split it that one deal. But it was very interesting to watch in this community change and begin to have a vision about what it could be facility-wise. Think about a community that voted to close schools. I worked the Fairfax County 30 years. You couldn't get a building closed ever by a vote. This community did that. Then we proceeded to build a high school and elementary school for $90 plus million. And tonight you're going to talk about another $8.2 million to complete that project. That has little to do with me. I'm the only one that's there, day-to-day, dog in this thing. That's the easy part, believe me. The hard part is making the things happen later. I couldn't be more honored to represent this community. It's the greatest group of people I've ever worked with, and it's the most compassionate group of people I've ever worked with, and it's the most compassionate group of people I've ever worked with. And you all are truly always being Carol and I's memory, and there's wearing Texas looking out over the golf course and enjoying the. I won't think about you on a regular basis, but when I hear those loans and groans and school systems about raising money and building facilities. I'll think about how well you did it and how I enjoy being part of it. I indeed, thank you very much. Appreciate it. There were the sisters on the last fight of the Welfare George. You want to score it up a little bit like that? Yes, they do. Okay, here we go. One, two, three. One, two, three. One, two, three. One, two, three. One, two, three. One, two, three. One, two, three. One, two, three. One, two, three. One, two, three. One, two, three. One, two, three. One, two, three. One, two, three. One, two, three. We have one more presentation and if you're just bear with me because I think it's one of the most important ones that we do every year. But a number of years ago, the City Council, understanding the importance of strong community and homeowner associations in the city of Fairfax, that for those of us who've been around for a long time, understands always been the cornerstone. Certainly, if government here in the city of Fairfax approved the grant program, but we went out to all the groups to make sure that they were well-funded and they had the money to do things to grow as organizations and represent their communities. And each year we give out about $20,000 to the various homeowner and had the money to do things to grow as organizations and to represent their communities. And each year we give out about $20,000 to the various homeowner and community associations. They submit grants every year. They submit requests to how they'd like to spend the money at ranges from community signs to community parts, to shelters, the landscaping, to newsletters, to community picnics, which we believe so strongly in. And so it is my pleasure if I could now and Melanie, if you would help me, we're going to present the chats to the associations. Actually, and I don't know the number, but I'm going to guess this probably 20 associations on this list. I don't know if you hear, but what I'm going to ask in the second time is I call your association if you come forward. Now, and stay up here. We'll get a big photo of everybody and then the staff will, the most important part is after the photo you can grab your checks and take them to the bank. So, let me just read the list. And if you're here as I read it, if you just come forward, ask and grow civic association. Bears just keep homeowners association. Breckenridge Lane Homeowners Association. Cambridge Station Association, Chantry Park Homeowners Association, Charles Courthouse Square Recreation Association, Tobdale Civic Association, Conduct, Const lot Homeowners Association, Country Club Hills Civic Association, Cresmont Homeowners Association, Barcloth Homeowners Association, Cresmont Home Hunters Association, Far Cross Home Hunters Association, Forts Cross Colony Unit Owners, Great Oaks Home Hunters Association, Historic Fairfax Neighborhood Association, Lime Wood News Home Hunters Association, Linhurst Condominium Association, Mozby Woods Community Association, Mozby Woods Condominium Association, mostly with condominium association, old Fairfax Muse Community Association, only highway civic association, Providence Square Homeowners Association, Russ Field Association, the Maple Trace Homeowners Association, Trammel Commons Homeowners Association, the Crossings Condominiums, and Westmore Civic Association. And let me just say as everybody's coming forward, our community associations, as I said earlier, have always been the cornerstone of certainly our communities, the strength of our community, the sense of pride in our communities that we certainly appreciate everything you all do as leaders. We know it. Music falls on a very few people to do it off a lot. And those of you who are standing up here happen to fall into that category. So thank you very much on behalf of my colleagues and certainly the communities. Hopefully you'll put those checks to good use. But I'd like to do it. We'll probably get to have to squash in here and look like we really like each other and get a photo. And then let's just use all this one word. Everybody in? That's pretty good. I'm intrigued to see you mean? Can you see me? I can't see you. Here we go. One, two, three. Thank you. Thank you all very much. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you all very much. Thank you. Can you stand here? Can you stand here? Can you stand here? Can you stand here? Can you stand here? Can you stand here? Can you stand here? Can you stand here? Can you stand here? Can you stand here? Can you stand here? Can you stand here? Can you stand here? Can you stand here? Can you stand here? Can you stand here? Can you the Okay. Then now brings us to agenda item number foura through 7d. Any of those items, your public hearing opportunity will come up in a few minutes that's not now, but if you'd like to talk to us about any other item on tonight's agenda that does not call for a public hearing, this would be your opportunity to do it. So again, if you're here for any items 7a, which is the Fairfax Boulevard Stafford Property 7b, which is the rental commercial and old town Fairfax historic district, Rainball Room and Lounge, 7c, which is a special use permit on Fairfax Boulevard for Commerce Bank or 7D, which is an appropriation resolution for the funding of our schools, then that opportunity will come in just a few minutes. Nobody has previously signed up to address the City Council under this first item, which again, our item is not calling for a public hearing, would anybody like to address the City Council under this first item, which again, our item is not calling for a public hearing. Would anybody like to address the City Council? Mr. O'Dell. Kerry O'Dell, 3920 Redwater Street. Jerry Odell 39 20 bad water street. I apologize for preempting this Stafford property folks who showed up in relative force again. I do have some comments so. It is always a pleasure to be here when the city hands out text worth thousands of dollars to the various community associations. I say that tongue on cheek. A lot of these, well you mentioned Mr. Mayor that some of the money goes simply for parties. That I think is a questionable use of the government's money. I like to liken these checks to bribes, to secure the votes of all of the people who live in those communities. The wonderful device for ensuring the election. On a more serious note perhaps. It's on here to the members of the city who live in areas that are not part of homeowner associations. I have to wonder whether and out loud at that, whether the Cobdale City Association, I understand, Maryland's there, is not too broad and area geographically to qualify as an association. I mean, can trust that with barrister's key for wrecking Ridge Lane or my own neighborhood Comstock, where you have a very limited number of houses, 200 or so, or even far less. There were far more than 20 names called by the mayor. There are 20 in the program. So I wonder who the late numbers were, and why they weren't included in the first place. And this is historic Fairfax Neighborhood Association. Excuse my ignorance. I don't know if that's proven in square or what, but they were you and do they call of high? Well, so much of the ranking and rating under that item. The, you can respond on your own time. The, some other comments here. Item six, aye, on the consent agenda. I think warranted public warning. Red light cameras are back folks. So the council, which used to rub its hands very greedily as to all of the money they were going to get, is now about to begin doing the same thing because the legislature has succumbed to their arguments that the rare end, the rare end collisions aren't enough the rare end argument, the rare end collisions aren't enough to offset the sideways collisions, collisions that occur at intersections where people run red lights. And now, the, the item on the use of the recreation facilities. There, I think you really ought to take the document that details how the use of school facilities is to be conducted now versus in the future and reject it, have it redone. There's no reason it couldn't have been submitted as a piece of legislation with strikeouts for deleted language and underlining for new. They make it easy to understand what's going on. You know, I'm half-poly, so it takes me well sometimes to understand things. By the way, that's my way of bragging about John Paul II being a Polish pope. All right. He, uh, so don't take offense if you happen to be as I am half-poly. Uh, the, uh, it took several minutes of looking at this document to figure out that the last one is the new one, the unsigned one. The one that has additional dates. The, I'm glad that you changed it to show that the city now has priority over the county. The old document listed the county on the same line of print. Now the city is explicitly same line of print. Now the city is explicitly listed as having priority, but I wonder whether you haven't left yourself open to the county circumventing your efforts to give them their proper second class status to the city. And as much as you have in this new document, even which had an old reference sheriff ex county public schools at CPS regulation 840 zero for details pertaining to the above categories. The county then by simply emending that document can do an end run around your attempt to limit their power. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Adele. Anybody else like to address the council again on any item that's not called for public hearing tonight? Good evening. My name is Gary Perryman from 11008 Westmore Drive. I take great offense to the comments that were just made about drives and receiving drives. At no time was it ever talk of any driving being done or anything that Council wanted done, I take extreme offense to being taking bards. And I think that kind of stuff doesn't need to be in here, that accusations that should not be made. Thank you. Thank you. Anybody else like to address the Council? If not, we will close the public hearing. This is part of the genitimate reform moved to the adoption of the agenda. Moved by Mr. Stowethore and seconded by Mr. Greenfield in any discussion. All in favor of the motion signify by voting aye. Aye. Opposed and at passing the item see. Who will over consent agenda, Mr. Greenfield? I can measure and move adoption of the consent agenda for agenda item number six a consideration of an award to extend a construction contract for street paving in the city of Air Vax, agenda item number 6B. Consideration of an award to extend a construction contract for concrete repair in the city of Air Vax. Agenda item number 6C, consideration of an award to extend a construction contract for brickwork in the city of Air Vax. agenda item number 6D, consideration of the deed of trail easement, maintenance agreement and financial agreement between the city, country, hills, recreation corporation, and northern Virginia conservation trust to formalize a public trail easement across country club hills, recreation corporation property. of the 11 Oak School property with bond proceeds. A jet on number six F, introduction of an ordinance amendment chapter 26, section 26-4 of the city code pertaining to the imposition of a courthouse security fee. Jet on number six G, introduction of an appropriation resolution in the amount of $4 million for the acquisition of the 11 Oak School property, located at 10515 School, Fairfax Virginia. The purchase of the 11 of school properties required to enable the city to complete the George Mason Boulevard growth project at item number 6, H, introduction of an appropriation resolution in the amount of $400,000 on increased costs and proposed additions to the city hall renovation project relating to a specialist removal window replacements exterior painting, major maintenance to front entrance steps in the replacement of flag poles and agenda item number 6 I introduction of an ordinance amendment in chapter 98 article one section 98-21 of the city code Returning to the use of photo monitoring systems to explore traffic light signals and for agenda items number 6 ABCD and e and move to approve the suggested motion in the staff report and for agenda items number 6, A, B, C, D, and E, I move to approve the suggested motion in the staff report. And for agenda items number six, F, G, H, and I, I move to the way of the first reading and set the public hearing for June 26, 2007. Second. Move on, Mr. Greenfield. Seconded by Mrs. Cross. Does anyone wish to object or abstain from the handling of these items on the consent agenda? Mr. S. Mussel? The item of Judg to item 60. Okay, 60 will be removed from the approval of the consent agenda in the other comments. All in favor of the motion of approving the consent agenda with the exception of item number 60, signify by voting aye. Aye. Opposed? At pass you now see that now brings us item number 60, which is consideration of the deed of trail easement, named as agreement of financial agreement between the city, Country Club Hills Recreational Corporation in Northern Virginia Concertation Trust, to formalize a public trail easement across Country Club Hills Recreational Corporation property staff report. Thank you, Mr. Mayor, members of the council. This item relates to an ongoing negotiations with the Country Club Hills Recreation Corporation. This process began several years ago in which Council had advised staff to go forward to the Country Club Hills Rec Corporation and offer certain payment and also other amenities in return for a prominent trail easement through their property. Through several years of negotiations with the Country Club Hills pool, we have finally come to an agreement with country club hills pool and also the north of Virginia Conservancy Trust which currently has been granted or they have an easement on that property. And this, what we have offered and club hills, recreation corporation, is substantially the same items that were offered initially several years ago. Question of staff, Mr. Rasmussen? Yes. I thought when we started out that we were talking about a permanent easement. Thank you. Permanent. This only calls for a term of 20 years. It's originally looking in the previous staff reports that it was recommended that we would purchase it, I believe, for a 20 year period. In this case, we had discussed a permanent easement with Country Club Hills. Country Club Hills, they felt more comfortable also with a 20-year agreement with which would automatically agree with further payments? Yes, it does. It would be for going forward. It would be $4,000 for every five year period with an escalation of about 3%, which is a little bit less than what we would be paying for the initial 20-year period. Thank you. Any other questions to staff? Ms. Cross. Thank you. With the possible purchase of this season considered, or was that ever part of the negotiation? Well, that was considered. That is something that kind of club hills did not feel comfortable with. They felt much more comfortable with a term agreement. They did not want to lock in their members or future members to an agreement and perpetuity. So they felt much more comfortable with a 20-year agreement and then five-year agreements or increments of five years after that. Thank you. One other question on the security rights. How many of you do we currently have on site along that access? Right now they have, I believe they have two rights that are already up. Speaking of rights. I think it's the gentleman if you there you go It's okay Don't go away. Yeah, don't go away. We forgive you We've been accused of operating in the dark before yeah Go ahead please You say to to occur. I believe they have to Currently so we're obligated to thisements to put another one up and. If they requested. Okay. Okay. All right, thank you. Any other questions to staff? Any now? We'll entertain a motion. Anybody? Okay, Mr. Mayor. Ms. Lion. I moved your. I moved your doubt the resolution, improving the deed of trail easement, maintenance agreement, and financial agreement between the Chemistry Club Hills Recreation Corporation in North Virginia, Conservation Trust, and the city for a trail easement across the portion of the Country Club Hills Recreation Corporation property to provide use of trails as well as public access to Daniel's run park and other public amenities. Is there a second? Okay. So we'd die for the lack of a second. Is there anybody he'd like to offer another motion? If not, I'll just Mr. Mayor, Mr. Greenfield. Move that we defer this item until July 12, 2007. No, is it? Is it? Is it? Is it? I'm not sure. July 10. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'd rather go to that one or this one. Okay, it's been moved by Mr. Greenfield, seconded by Mr. Seventhorn to defer this agenda item to July 10th. The City Council meeting on July 10th. Discussion? If not, I'll vote favor the motion to signify by voting aye. Aye. Opposed? And a pass, you and Adam, say that. Now it's going to bring us to our public hearings. Public hearings seven a is the public hearing and council action for a special use permit to allow government and use soccer field parking lot, auxiliary structures in the I-1 industrial C-2 retail commercial and HCOD highway corridor overlay districts as well as other special use and special exception permits on the premises known as 1009010120 for a fact, Boulevard Stafford property. This point in time, I'm assuming the staff report will be fairly condensed, but we're going along, public here and the police. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, sorry, Mr. Mayor, and good evening. This is a good suggestion. No, I was a planning commission last night. This is a tag team effort between myself and Mike McCarty to bring an update to you on the presentations that began with the public hearing of the, I think it was April 22nd, 24th. And as you will recall, the City Council considered the initial public hearing for the park design to allow to athletic fields and access reuses at the staff property and after much input from the citizens who will be most affected by this proposal. The City Council asked to continue the public hearing and in the interim to provide both an opportunity for additional input and redesign. On May 22nd, the staff brought to the City Council in a work session a redesign of the park proposal to show one athletic field and modify some of the various accessory uses. And after that hearing the work session, then there was a continued outreach meeting and site visit on the 31st, which involved the City Council and members of the community. As a result of those conversations, the land use requests to allow the park have been modified in keeping with the comments and concerns expressed by both the Council and members of the community. Most notably, there were two special use permit applications before you previously, one for government to use in the I-1 district and also to our telecommunications. And now, at the direction of council, the telecommunications request has been eliminated from the application. In addition, the request to allow athletic field lights that exceed at the maximum committed height, which require a variance action by the council, has also been eliminated. With respect to the special exceptions, the parking lot encroachment as part of the redesign is no longer necessary and the proposal will now meet the requirements for parking lot landscaping so the exception is no longer needed. The exception to allow the existing vegetation to remain along the buffer area between the proposed park and the residential properties. That is still in place, simply because it would require removal of the existing vegetation to meet the requirements of the city code. So in order to be the existing vegetation in place, the exception is needed and that also allows to eliminate the requirement for a screening wall or fence in that area. However, the application has also been amended to eliminate the request for exception on signage. The previously proposed signage on plantation parkway has been eliminated. And also, I do need to bring to your attention that the motions in your staff report included a special exception for a signage on staff or a drug, and that is no longer necessary either. At this time, we believe that the signage after the final site plan review could be relocated consistent with the requirements of the code. So we don't believe, and I do have revised motions and resolutions that you're chair for this evening. And then with respect to the modification of parking lot landscaping that was previously a part of the application, that is also no longer necessary. The parking lot, as you know, is been reduced from 100 parking spaces to 52, giving adequate area to meet the interior and perimeter design requirements. So that is also eliminated. So tonight, really before you, there are two exceptions. Sorry, there's one special exception request, and that's to eliminate the required transitional screening and buffering both to the adjacent residential community and between the C2 and I1 districts. And of course, the request to allow the government to use. The variance now is no longer necessary, so that's off the table. And with that, I will turn the mic over to Mike McCarty, who will give you the additional details. Thank you very much. As you know, we have had a number of modifications and changes. And even with the justification statement, the sense that was submitted with the public outreach, we've made some additional changes based on recommendations from residents, council, and so forth. Let me declare there's no solid equipment in this plan, no lights, no parking sign on plantation parkway, no concession stand. We've reduced the parking to 52 spaces, consistent with traffic stunning park-a-dory standards. Within the park design, we have one rectangular synthetic turf field, 210 feet by 330 feet. We have trails made of crushed stone, a lockable bathroom facility only opens during schedule play that would be maintained, monitored and locked up by parks, recreation staff and train volunteers of the volunteer youth groups. A barrier free playground, we included sidewalk code programs that are along the west side of Stafford Drive from the fact school of Ard on the range of road. And we've maintained all of the hill and churches with exception of six that we've located on the property in the northeast corner of the athletic field. The park design sits on the 23 acres of property both sides of staff of rest and staff of east staff of west move 14 acres Staff of east and the mine acres off the four to the acres on staff of west with the considerable reductions in the plan We have only five acres that will be used for the park four of the five acres for the field play area and parking one of the five acres for the trails and common areas over the last couple of weeks, as well as months and even prior to the April 24th, we investigate three critical areas, traffic, environmental impact and wetlands. We've adjusted our traffic and addressed some of the traffic issues that have come up over the public hearings and one of them being the additional turnways based on our traffic study as well as staff, traffic engineers, looking at this additional turnways and not recommend you are required. We think that maybe in the future if it is necessary with the future, hopefully adoption of Fairfax full of our master plan, they can be incorporated at that point in time if necessary. We update our traffic counts to 38 vehicles, weekday and 34 vehicles, weekend on peak hours, which we also think is also on the high side. The parking lot has been designed to handle the additional capacity of 52 vehicles in the parking lot. So we want to make a few time entering and exiting the parking lot and levels of service at the intersection of Fairfax Boulevard and Stafford is acceptable. The right hand lane, exiting off of Stafford Drive onto the Fairfax Boulevard, currently is there up to the type of fire chicken restaurant has been extended to the park entrance. I'd like to talk about the environmental impact and turn this over to Rob Walker, civil engineer with William H. Gordon. We'll address the concerns within the plan and we have addressed those with erosion, drainage, and vegetation, and include the preservation of the RPA buffer, the inclusion of a rain garden, and use of pervious materials and BMP measures. So Rob Walker. Mr. Naird, members of the council, again, my name is Rob Walker. I'm a civil engineer with William Gordon associates. We need to try to be brief. As Mike mentioned, the ball field reducing from two fields to one field has allowed us to position the now one remaining field in I guess a better place on the site to save more significant trees, which was certainly a goal from the Madelstein point. Those of you I know are very familiar to the site by now, and there's an area in the middle of that site that has essentially been cleared at some previous time, and that's primarily where the ball field and the parking lot have now been positioned so well. And again, it's saving a lot of the existing stands of vegetation. This is also going to allow us from a storm water and environmental standpoint from storm water. We have now one field and now greatly reduced parking area. So our stormwater runoff is greatly reduced. And we still are going with a rain garden. And we're still going to be directing our stormwater flow towards FFX Boulevard, which is, again, another goal has been on the project. The plan that's been proposed has been some discussion about site distance and the entrance off the staffer drive that we have to have adequate site distance and the distance in this case is about 390 feet which is pretty significant but it's been shown on the plan so that no one forgets the fact that adequate site distance is necessary and is achievable in the location that's been proposed. You'll see on the plan there's been some mentioning of a wall and that's been, I think, on concept 7.8 there's a very tiny wall or small wall from 1.5 to 4 foot. Only just to save more existing trees and save more existing vegetation was the goal. The other significant part of the plan is there's about 59 proposed trees. It's a mixture of deciduous, primarily oaks and native vegetation and also some evergreens for a little bit of screening throughout the park. And as Mike mentioned, we're also, again, continuing to preserve the floodplain, the RPA and, of course, everything on on East Side of Stacker Drive. Thank you. The final area that we addressed was wetlands. There were basically we have updated the wetlands to the denomination. There was a wetlands reconnaissance time in 2000 on the property done by the owner at that time. Wetlands Associates is a firm that's been contracted out to do the wetlands delineation. I'd like to turn this over to Mark Katley, Mr. Vice President and wetlands associates. Thank you, Mr. Mayor and members of the council. I'm Mark Headley with Wetlands Studies and Solutions out in Gamesville, Virginia. We are firm to the original reconnaissance work for the previous owner. We actually did a delineation subsequent to that had the core of engineers out to review it. That delineation was never surveyed and the jurisdictional determination since expired. So we've been out recently, basically the end of last week, to revise and re-delineate that old delineation. Basically, we have delineated a jurisdictional waters of the United States along the North work of acting creek. That stream, as a Primal Stream, it's already a resource protection area component. We've delineated the limits along the edge of the streams that we can work precisely to find the RPA. We've evaluated the rest of the streams that we can work precisely to find the RPA. We evaluated the rest of the parcel. Most of it is very high ground and then as was previously mentioned we have some areas that were previously disturbed. There are some depression areas within that disturbed area in our opinion. Even though some of those low lying areas contain hydrophytic vegetation or plants that are adapted to grow in wet areas, they don't have all the parameters to be called a jurisdictional wetland. We're finishing our documentation on the site and the next step would be to have the core of engineers come out and give us an official confirmation of what we've determined. But assuming that they agree with our delineation, there will be no permitting issues with development of the park as proposed, because the only jurisdictional areas would be the north fork of Akitane Creek. Thank you. So to quickly wrap up the recommendation from the staff is for the concept 7E, which is part of the staff report. It contains the retaining wall. It also shifts the parking lot, which was one of the requests further east on the property, retaining more of the vegetation along the staffer's drive. The wall, as mentioned before, is a one foot to four foot wall, about 170 feet long. And it's depicted in the next slide in the presentation. And as if you go to the next slide, you'll quickly show, with Highlight and Red in the next clip, we'll show where the retaining wall is and it's blow up on this plan. We'll be here for any questions that the council has. Thank you very much for this opportunity to finish the floor. If I could just follow up a little bit on this slide. So it's my understanding that retaining walls in an effort to keep the trees and vegetation on the hill of Stafford and the wall allows you to build into the dirt there so that it doesn't allow you to do that. The other question I had and I think I understood this because I know this was an issue that there's been a lot of discussion on. The requirement for the 390 foot is because we now would allow left hand turns out of the parking lot and that's in the sense into the community. If we chose to eliminate the left hand turn, which obviously the people would be most inconvenienced to, would be the people who are from the community who have kids find it the field, would there still be a 390-foot requirement or since they're only turning right out of the facility, could that be eliminated? You still have a 390-foot requirement. Basically, it's called for an entrance site just as whether people are turning right or left out of the entrance. The idea is a car turning out of the entrance no matter which direction, if there's oncoming vehicles, they need to be able to be seen and be able to stop in a safe condition. So the only way to change that would be to, you know, cover every stop signs like a three-way stop or something like that to that effect. But you would still need to cite distance if you. Okay. And as I understand it, the standard you're using, I don't know what standard it is, but I know we had some communication from the community that cited a V.standard, where this standard is saying you have to design the road for 10 miles an hour over the speed limit, which gets us to the 390. There was some discussion that V. will allow for a waiver in a certain circumstances for five miles an hour under the speed limit, which then would save almost all of that vegetation along the road. Can you explain to me the difference? Absolutely. Basically, we're following Ashto standards, which is what the city, in this case, always governs by Ashto standards. Ashto standards, it's a, it's a, it's a national recognized standard that basically a lot of VITOT's own standards are based from. So it's a safety standard. The basic premise here, I had seen also some information floating around. There were different standards for breaking site distance versus entrance site distance. And there's a big difference between what's allowed. What you're referring to is the, when you have a road that's unknown in terms of its design speed or what's classification of an older road, sometimes V.it has been known to relax a standard down to maybe the posted speed limit. But in this case, what the speed limit is being, the speed limit is set with the signage that's out there on the road. And so working with public works and talking that through, and people travel a speed no matter what the sign reads, and so therefore there's a safety factor that's kind of built into this additional distance beyond the post-it speed limit. Any other questions to staff? Mr. Rasmusle. Mr. Rasmusle. The staff report refers to Concept 7E. And I think Mr. McCarty, you said that was the one we were considering. But the big design doesn't have that. And if we adopt this proposal tonight, are we clear that we're adopting Concept 7E? This thing has Concept 7. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. in response to the latest outreach session, and that's why the proposal- Can you put seven E? I thought you had the very last slide with the new parking lot as we was the last. The motion could read to specifically call out the option that Councillor wishes to approve. Okay. Because the motion, as the recommended staff report motion talks about the special use permit client, which I assume is this. Yes. And so that's not correct. We need to correct that. But as long as it has the appropriate designation of concept E, special section of that concept E dated at I think might give us a. Well, and if I could just why we're having the public hearing if I could just get staff to slip up a clarification in the verb of said that we're all on the same page. Okay. Okay. Any other miss great I'm sorry I'm in stress. I'm going to have to make a question. On page 12 of the staff report it says that the public sewer connection will be extended to a sewer line located north of the property. That means going through the hill over towards the condominiums, which seems to me to be not the best way to do this. Is that the only way this can be done? S.S. D. Well, as it turns out, there's a manholes, a sanitary sewer manhole north of the site right in the middle of the road and the ideas to just travel down the road and tie him to the existing sanitary sewer manhole, therefore not having to go through the hill or the trees? Road being staffer drive. Staffer drive. So you're going east then? North east. Kind of north east. North east, but not through the hills. Not through the hills. Thank you. Is there a screen fill? Thank you, Mr. Murr. Last question regarding on sub 70, you talk about on the staff report as well, that the trail wall along Stafford, which maintains the vegetation, but doesn't allow you to connect the trail out to Stafford. Am I understanding that correctly? It doesn't allow us to connect the trail on the north side of the property where we have it. On the other concepts and all the concepts we've shown, you can connect down in the southern portion, you're talking about chicken in the entrance of the park. So essentially you would come up the driveway and then pick up the trail there and take it around from the south side over to plantation or the north side over to plantation. Correct. Okay. Thank you. Any other questions or staff? Very none. Thank you very much. We're now going to open up the public hearing. We have a number of people who have pre-signed up. I'm just going to call three names in a row so that the other two will be sort of on call and ready to move forward so we can get through the list. If I mess up your name, I apologize. I'll do the best I can. Alisa Luck, followed by Sabrina Hunter, followed by Becky Hyde. Good evening, Mayor and members of City Council. My name is Elise Lueck and I reside at 3231 Plantation Parkway. I'd like to first thank each of you for taking the time to meet with residents at your recent outreach meeting. I think it was helpful to hear from you and accounting of how this project has progressed to the point that we are at this evening. As public servants it is essential that you dialogue with the community you represent and although I continue to believe there was ample opportunity for more of that engagement earlier on in this process, the meeting was helpful nonetheless. Clearly there are many community needs that you must balance as you make the decision before you tonight. This is not about being pro-children or not. It is not about being pro-sports or not. And it is not about being an advocate of the environment or not. Unfortunately because individuals with varying perspectives were not brought together early and often as part of this project's development, it's easy to feel as if there are two sides being represented and you're in one camp or the other. And in many ways, your vote tonight will unfortunately leave many with a perception that each of you is in one camp or the other as well. I won't kid you in an area of ongoing development, traffic congestion, and hairy lifestyles, I would love nothing more than to retain this property in a natural state. I do believe that far too often we are quick to pave over natural green space. We build buildings to house nature exhibits, bringing wildlife indoors. And we construct fields made of artificial grass. We forget that nature can exist and be cherished in its natural state outdoors and soccer teams that play on natural gas have become world champions. Development is not always necessary nor does it always guarantee success. So ideally I would advocate for this property to be maintained in its current green state. I think that trails on the property would be a welcome addition along with some interpretive signage that could highlight the natural environment. However, I am sensitive to the fact that this project really represents an opportunity to find a balance that serves the overall needs of the community. And the community you represent is the citizenry of the entire city of Fairfax. So that is how I've attempted to determine where I'm going to be this evening with this issue. Staff has come a long way from the original proposal, which would have overwhelmingly served the needs of the athletic community alone. Fortunately, your visit to the site validated how ill-conceived that original proposal truly was. Clearly, there is no denying the fact that there is a shortage of playing fields in the northern Virginia area. Equally clear is the fact that the city of Fairfax alone cannot meet that need. One field, two fields, three fields will not resolve the dilemma of FPYC or other athletic groups. What is needed are partnerships with the larger community to address the field shortage. They're proposed before you tonight to construct a single synthetic turf field without lights, is a very generous move by the city to add another field to its inventory in an attempt to meet the needs of the athletic community. My hope is that even as one field is recognized by the sports community as a major stepping up to the plate by the city of the city of this size. Similarly, the purchase and preservation of approximately nine acres of land in its natural state is equally good for our community. It might not be easy to quantify, but we need trees in open green space every bit as much as kids need sports. It's good for air quality, it's good for our natural environment and it's good for each of us. Really, the proposal to construct one field in a play area while preserving a good portion of the Stafford West property in its natural state represents a compromise. And it's a compromise that meets the overall needs of the city, allowing for one more much needed field, but also for serving nine acres of land. I would ask if you move forward with this proposal tonight that you only approve one field without lights or the infrastructure to support lights in the future. No concession stand and no signage on plantation parkway, which would only serve to encourage off-street parking on an already congested thoroughfare. I would also propose that the trail not extend to plantation parkway, is that would similarly encourage off-street parking and pedestrian traffic to the ballfield. If this facility will be built for athletic purposes, not passive recreation, then individuals will most likely be visiting the site by car and car should be directed to the paved parking area. I would ask that you also consider a right turn only out of the parking area to eliminate the impact of traffic onto Ranger Road, which is heavily populated by families with young children. Thank you very much for your consideration. Thank you. Sabrina Hunter followed by Becky Hyde, followed by John Wester. Hello, I am Sabrina Hunter, and I'm the Chair of the City Resident Athlete 3303 Pomona Drive apartment F. Fairfax, half UIC, this is club. Has been facing the lack of fields for at least 25 years now. And we have always had the practices to be later encrowded also because I got my friends soccer practice list and there's at least three fields on the team of choosing Thursday. More people have reprecipated at UIC and soccer practices and there's at least three fields on the team choosing their best. More people would participate in FUIC sports if there was more fields. But since there's not enough fields, we are not able to have more practices. So this was, we have more fields. We can also have an impact on the use health because we will not be on the computer or out in the streets doing whatever. FUIC also could need the lighting of the fields. Lighting of the fields could also bring some greater practices times, but we would be able to see over wherever we are practicing. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. High followed by John Russell, followed by Tony D. of Flew Mary, I believe might have missed that one. I'm fact that might have missed that one. I'm bad. Good evening. My name is Becky Hyde. I live at 30309, Buckeye, lighting, Fairfax. I'm here to represent F throughIC as the president of the organization. I want to start out by telling you and reminding everybody FUIC is an all volunteer organization. In 2006, we had 620 adult volunteers who ran 11 sports. Formed in 1963 with Chief Cutner, the city of Fairfax, Chief of Police, as our first president, FPIC proudly ran force sports. By 2001, there were eight sports and 3,489 participants. In 2006, participation has grown to 4,218 participants. It's almost at 17% growth, plus we have 11 sports now. So keeping this in perspective, we're in the spring of 07, and I can only compare to the spring of 06, but I can't give you the full 07 members. In spring of 06, we had 1,840 participants. In spring of 07, we had 1,981 participants. That's a 7% growth in one year. Okay. I wanted to mention real quick, Fairfax County. It was talked about several times that Fairfax County was only retrofitting existing fields to be artificial turf. And that is a true statement. They are retrofitting 12 athletic fields to be have artificial turf. However, they're going to phase that in over several years. And at this time right now, they are building a park called Patriot Park where they have several rectangular fields and diamond fields that are all brand new fields. So the county has the same problem that we hear having the city. And that they're still falling short of the community needs, the needs that they are represented 117 athletic field shortage. So even retrofitting isn't enough. So that's just my little note on the county. Eight out of the 11 current sports in FPURC are outdoor field sports. This does not include our Youth Challenge program, nor does it include our newest 2008 edition of field hockey, so that will be a ninth field sport that we're going to bring to the city. In 2006, just counting the teams for the field sports, we had 269 teams that didn't include track, who also uses the track around Fairfax High School. We have available to us 24 fields that is, again, I'm going to compare spring. In 2006, we received 14 fields from the city and 10 fields from the county to fulfill our needs. In 2007 spring, we had 11 fields provided by the city and 13 by the county. We had to go back to the county and ask for more fields because we didn't have enough and we can't get more from the county. We're constantly fighting for this. So I want to do a little math. In a perfect world, you have 24 fields, two teams per field that gives us 40 spaces per day. With 48 spaces per day times that by five days a week, you have 240 practice spaces available per week. Going back to spring. Spring 06 last year that 219 teams just for spring for field sports was 100 translated to 134 teams in spring 06. It translated to 144 this past spring, the one we're just now finishing. Times that by your two practices a week and you end up with 288 total fields. I mean total field spaces needed for practice. We have available 240. We need 288. There is a deficit. Now we're not in a perfect world. Of those 24 fields, 16 of them are available to us Monday through Friday. The other eight we get Monday Wednesday, Tuesday Thursday, Monday Monday, Wednesday, Friday, and some only on the weekends. So we don't really have 24 fields to use Monday through Friday. So what will be a little conservative? The 240 that was available to us, practice times available to us now becomes 200. So now we're down instead of the 48 practice states availability we're down to 88. So we have to get creative. We go to our younger age groups and we ask them to hold one practice a week instead of two. Some fields are forced to house three to four teams on one time. And then they have to rotate using the goal areas because not everybody can have a goal. You've got four teams in a field or even three. We give lacrosse one field to split use between seven teams. Football and cheerleading, they share a field. What that means is you have five to seven football teams practicing on the same space is five to seven cheerleading squats. They're all using the same little strip of grass under the only lights that are available to them. Listening to all of this, fields are given no rest and they take a beating. Every one of them takes the beating with what we have. And we haven't even talked about games that have to be played and they're not played only in Saturdays anymore. They have to be played on Sundays because we just can't get enough space to put them on. So as you can see, for almost 45 years, the challenge for FPYC has been to meet the growing demands of a very vibrant active community. The volunteers of this organization strives not only meet but exceed these challenges. We want to provide the youth of our community with a fun, safe environment to learn and play. We challenge the council, just as we have been challenged, to take up this cause. And we agree, this is a compromise. This gives everybody a chance. You can create a park with a ball field on five of the 23 acres of land at Stafford, and we can blend the desires of the communities. You know, to have five acres of park land with immediate access to the 18 acres left of green space. This is a very good compromise and as an athletic association, looking at the whole community, we see the compromise and we really appreciate the hard work that all of you and all of you that have come out have done to do this. Thank you. Thank you very much. John Russert followed by Tony on Egan Gris followed by Alan Russert. Good evening Mr. Mayor, City Council. I would first and foremost commend you on an outstanding job on a very, very challenging opportunity for the City of Fairfax and building this park and facility. And I happen to be a, my name is John Russell and I'm 32 28 plantation parkway, which happens to be most be what so I have friends and folks on all sides of this and I understand very well but I think you have done an incredible job of 20 meetings I believe it's up to 20 meetings and discussions where this topic has been brought up and raised and discussed and argued. And in particular, having been involved for about 25 years in the community, very impressive was the outreach. And I would echo from the first woman that spoke this evening about the need to do that earlier. It's a recommendation because I think it was a meeting that started out very, very challenging but ended up to be very constructive discussion. And many people had a leave unfortunate, but the beauty as the last hour was, well, how do we do this? And how do we do that? And understanding that this is a park for our city and it is a trail that I hope those trails can be extended as future growth or on down the flood plain there in the appropriate areas. But that I believe that the part of the trail that gets to the park, the playground, opening the access, the removal of what is it, 13 or 12 street people that live in that area. I laughed when some people said I'd been back there and walked through there. I wouldn't walk back there with a strong bodyguard. There it is an unfortunate thing. We're hoping to move that and clean those areas up. And people talk about the stream bed and our kids enjoying it. I'm hoping, and I'm not particularly sure about the detail that there will have access that we can actually see it and walk down to it and take our grandchildren. And take our children. I want to fly a kite with my grandchildren. I can, how lucky can we be to walk to the front of our community and kick a ball or throw a ball or fly a kite? Or stroll down there, let the kids play and fight down. Right a bite down there. Enjoy the creek. Take a granddaughter or a grandson down and walk and see those dollars. Again, I would urge you to prove this park. I think it's an outstanding opportunity for the City of Fairfax. I think it's an outstanding opportunity for the athletic teams at Fairfax High School, which will, I know, share in this for the youth of this community and for just the families to go down there and share a catch, share a kite. It's just fantastic. I'll standing work. Thank you very much. Good luck in your vote. Thank you. Thank you. A tony on Egan Drive followed by Alan Rizzett followed by Mike Kelly. followed by Mike Kelly. Anything? My name is Tarni Declamari, I live at 3820 Egan Drive in City of Fairfax. I've been a resident for 13 years now and saw a lot of change go through the city most of it positive. When we first moved in, we jumped into what was a key discussion, shall I say the least, with respect to our elementary schools. And again, it was a discussion of people that lived closest to the schools that were closed against those that lived next door of the schools that would remain open. Fortunately, the majority of us saw the future and invoked it to pass that on referendum. Few years back, we had the same discussion on a different parcel land at Providence Park. Again, we started out with two ball fields and a very dark, very unused park on the other side of the city. A lot of outreach on both sides ended up with one ball field. And it's turned into a much widely used facility from both an FPYC or athletic perspective, as well as a local community perspective. I live in the Fairchester Woods part of town, and we're lucky enough to have Cutner Park in our backyard. And I hope that the folks of most rewards get as much use out of this staff or property as we do at Cutter Park. Cutter Park is a mixed use facility with the SOC field, tennis court, a pavilion, probably a 40 spot parking lot that's accessible to everyone within the community and that's why I'm used. So I hope as you listen to people tonight and you think through your decision that you vote with your conscience and you vote with what is best for the majority of the folks at vote in the city. Thank you. Thank you very much. Allen, Rizic followed by Mike Kelly followed by Jessica Nason. Allen, Rezek, one way to mark eSport and then the OSEA Fairfax President for 17 years now. I'd like to say I support the fields and support your voting for the fields. We need more fields. There's not enough right now. The fields are in for aable condition, you should be ashamed of the fields that you have right now. The parks are actually a good job, they try, but there's just too many people, too many kids, too many parents, too many college kids, too many teams on these field right now. So we definitely need more teams. Levinates purchased all that tonight. Worries me. We have a field of love notes. Don't want to see condos going on our fields of love notes. So we're voting for your love notes. Sure, let's buy the property. But let's please think about keeping fields on the property because we don't want to get one field and lose one field. Let's see, security, we need police on our fields. The fields we're looking at Draper, there's always, you're always going down there, you're having to move the beer bottles off the fields and you practice. You have to move off the teams that pick up and play there without permits. You get threatened going out there and saying, hey, can you get off the field? I need to be on here. There's grown down out there. You don't want to take the 14-year-old daughter to play soccer on a field. The county park. City Park. It's not right. Get the cops out there. Second field of province. It's time to go back and open that can of worms. Tony, talk to that a little bit ago. You really need to open that can of worms. It's a dark park. It's not being used. The woods are not being used there. Let's get a second feel. Let's get some just feel some space open there. Get out all those old rotten trees and get us in place to have the kids play. Then it feels like a field, but let's open the can of worms. Better parking green acres. You got a very tiny gravel parking lot there that people park in the middle. You definitely need to open that up, put some signage in there. No, if people block the access, you can't get out. Thank you very much. Thank you. Mike Kelly followed by just commas and followed by Julian. I've got about five pages written, but I actually think that in the effort of saving some time, I think the staff has done a great job and I think the compromises come out of this working with all the different communities and FVIC. I mean, did my address, sorry, one of two one eight child history I do live in Mosby Woods. And I just think it's going to be a great compromise. It's something that we need is a community within Mosby Woods and Cambridge Station. But I also think we need is a city within Mosby Woods and Cambridge Station, but I also think we need as a city and this is a city issue. So being a board member of FPYC, I'll be signing the favor of this, but I also want to thank everyone for their effort and you guys need to make the right decision tonight and I'll speak down with this. Thank you. Thank you. Julian Mason followed by Linda Roosevelt followed by Dennis Kay. A good evening mayor, City Council. My name is Jessica Mason. I reside at one of own three building drive in the city of Fairfax. I have been playing soccer for FUIC for seasons and seasons, four years maybe, and we need the fields. Since the construction at linear, two of our fields have been taken away and her nose if we'll ever get them back. Field choices for my age group and other age groups have been reduced dramatically. I now practice and I have all my home gains at Providence Park. Even though it's a great field, the grass is, there's actually grass there, it's fantastic. There are two other soccer teams practicing on the same field at the same time. Practice, doctor, practice, stay after day. With the addition of new fields at the Stafford Property, we would get more playing time, less competition for practice time in space, and a better field to practice and plan. The issues with the ecosystems, parks such as E.C. Lawrence, Mason District, and Providence Park, very good systems are perfectly fine, even with the fields in their midst. The ecosystem at the potential field would be able to rebound quickly from any construction. Soccer has had an excellent influence on my academic and social life. I've received strikers for all semester in the 2016-2007 school year. I am a Girl Scout, so bouncing soccer, Girl Scouts, homework is pretty crazy, but managed to do it. Soccer builds teamwork and leadership skills that I can then apply to my everyday life, whether it be academic or otherwise. With new fields, this opportunity can be provided to more children in the Fairfax area. Thank you. Thank you. Julian Mason followed by Linda Roosevelt followed by Dennis Kate. Good evening, Mayor, City Council and fellow attendees. My name is Julia Mason and I'm resident of Fairpeck City at 10813 Woodland Drive. Obviously, I'm going to echo a lot of what my daughter just said, but I do have a, as I'm not a necologist and I'm not, but I am the large part family of marine scientists, national park employees, geologists and civil engineers. So I'm no stranger to what is going on in our city today. I see the need to preserve the wetlands and the homes for the small animals, birds, and maybe a turtle or two. I'm here today in support of the Stafford Park Project. While many opposing views have been, why do weing more fields, don't we have enough? I have to disagree, as we may have more people that move into our area every day and make Fairfax City a home for their children and for future generations. While I'm not a proponent of fields in the middle of concrete wonderlands, I am a proponent of fields surrounded by trees, streams, and wetlands, and a bathroom or two. The example that we have had tonight of the Safry property is an excellent place to be going. Is an excellent thing for you to vote on, especially in light of all people here in support of this project. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Linda Rosell followed by Dennis Kate followed by Ken Johnson. Hi, I'm Linda Rosell and I'm a homeowner at one of five, four, six assembly drive in Fifth City and I've got two little girls who built love by soccer and I'm here to represent a whole bunch of people who can't be here tonight because they're tied up with other children on the archetypical soccer moms and I don't mean that as representing any kind of political party statement, but the people who day after day get up and get our kids out to those fields, the people who have to search for bathrooms when one is locked or you can't find one. And I just want to say we need fields in this city desperately, And I would say the ones that we have, there's so many that are overused. There's a little girl on F.P.Y.C. Roadrunners who split her leg open. Had to get 30 something stitches because she slipped in the mud in front of a goal where all the glasses have been worn away and tore her leg open. Now she's out, she was out for the remainder of the season and she's going to be doing physical therapy all summer. You know, I just, I looked at this proposal and it says the City Council has indicated the athletic lights are not needed at this facility. And yet I know from bringing my kids to games that and to practices, if you're practicing till 8 o'clock at night, you're going to need lights for the year. And I haven't seen any evidence that there would be any adverse impact from installing modern athletic lighting that faces down points towards the fields, especially now that we've got one field totally surrounded by woods. So I'm saying to the City Council, let there be light, turn on the lights in that field, build the infrastructure for it and put up some lights so we can maximize the full use of what you're investing the money here to do with a broad community support. And I do mean broad community support from a lot of voters who can't be here a person, but put on the lights so that the kids can play until 8 o'clock at night, in November. Thank you. Johnston followed by Miss Headworths. Thank you Mr. Mayor and members of the council. I'm Dennis Cate and I resided one zero one one two scout drive in Mosby Woods. I speak again tonight for myself and for my family. And I ask before you make any decision, be careful to consider the concerns tonight and that we're raised in the prior hearing on April 24th. When I spoke before, I told you that the impacts of the two fields were just too great, but that I could have properly conditioned, support one field in order to balance the stated need for field amenities and to potentially impact on our community. I raised issues of traffic, safety, noise, glare, road and hard-earned site distance. Complies that the proposal changes, the entrance locations will address the site distance and the number of fields and reduced to one unlighted field. I do support one field, if properly conditioned. But the conditions set forth in the proposed approval are not the comprehensive conditions that can be enforced to protect us from the impacts. Pages 13 through 16 of the Stafford Court provide a list showing compliance with the SUP General Standards. These aren't in the conditions. For instance, sub-paragraph F on page 14 provides for the hours of field use for organized play. That's not conditioned. And please, if you approve a condition like this, include team practices as organized plays so that we know that teams will be always during those particular hours. Condition the hours and stagger the changes so that it is more likely that vehicles coming and going do not conflict and the parking lot overlap doesn't cause people to park on our streets. Allow for unprogrammed play. Allow people to fly the kite, as was mentioned earlier. There need to be conditions regarding security after hours for the proposed restroom building. And trash disposal needs to be addressed. I've not seen anything about dumpsters or trash disposal. You're near sensitive environmental area. Trash does happen. Curb and gutters proposed for staff or drive on one side, anyway, page 12 of the staff report at the top shows the stormwater management is to be directed towards Stafford Drive from the parking lot. Condition shows it's going to a Fairfax Drive. I think we need to get that straightened out because you can't have cheap flow or untreated, unregulated stormwater just going on a Stafford Drive, eventually heading down towards Fairfax, in the lower part. When you get cold weather, you're just inviting ice. I could continue, but in the interest of time, I'm just going to suggest you strongly condition this. A private developer would not have so much left to the imagination of the conditions. You've got a restaurant, S U P coming up after this. That's got eight conditions. You've got three for the park. The transportation impacts have been greatly reduced by the reduction in the number of fields, but the revised CIS still shows the intersection is LOSF and LSE. The peak hour on weekdays and weekends have an additional 18 trips in them in 2016 outbound respectively. I raised the potential need for a right turn lane or taper from Fairfax Boulevard onto Stafford partly because of backups onto Fairfax Boulevard if left turns blocked, but also because of the speed of travel on the travel lane vehicles and potential career and collisions, whether it's because people aren't familiar with staff or drive turns slowly or because there's a blockage. PHR and A opines that none's needed because traffic volumes aren't there. Let's do the only other westbound lane with a right turn lane except for plantation parkway. It will cost $90,000. The analysis really doesn't address safety. The fact that there's a right turn lane at plantation parkway, the next street up, hard use of the mic beneath for one here too, especially your adding as the field. The main reason for not providing at least a taper, subject to getting a V. exception to avoid conflict with the existing office building curb cut, seems to be the expected $90,000 cost to provide. And a multimillion dollar project, $90,000 is not much to ask for safety. I'd also suggest that you look towards police records for a number of accidents that occur at that intersection. Given the vehicles traveling its fee, I've seen looming in my rearview mirrors, I try to take that turn. I see a safety need now. The council, if it approves one field, needs to provide that right-turn lane or taper. Let the residents and the visitors get a chance to get off the road. If the council chooses to disregard safety now, then you need a condition. Yes, yet another condition that provides for another traffic impact analysis after the field's up and running. Let us see if PHR and as erosion predictions are held true. I'm not an imbi. I believe that the me for recreation can be balanced against the serious impacts on our community by the approval of one field with unprogrammed open area for the community and strong enforceable conditions. If you can provide the answers and strong enforceable conditions, I support the proposal. Again, subject to further review and potential operational changes, if the impacts are greater than expected. If you can't approve the conditions needed for our protection, then I request that the council deny the application because of safety, drainage and transportation issues that cause disproportionate and grave impacts in our community, I have not been mitigated. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Ken Johnson followed by Missy Edwards. Ken Johnson followed by Missy Edwards followed by Jackie Fairbars. Good evening, Mayor and City Councilman. My name is Ken Johnson. I work at 10608 Regent Park Court in Fairfax City. In fact, I'm in a chanceary park and we are boarded by Providence Park, George Mason University and apartments. So I think my situation is similar with albeit crucial differences than the staff are setting. My bias is fields. I think that the fields are important. But I look at if I had my choice with the property next to me, Providence, it would be nice to, you know, not have a field there and just have a nice little nature area that I could enjoy all by myself, but I don't know now property. It's common property is owned by the city. And, you know, I believe it's your job to decide what is best for most people and, you know, putting in soccer fields. I think we've established that there's an acute need for additional recreational facilities, and it seems to me listening to people talk tonight that this is a reasonable compromise where not only can most be Woods residents walk, go to a local park and enjoy the park themselves, which only they would enjoy if it were just a park. I'm not going to get home and decide if you don't put a field there that I'm going to say, hey, spend, say, Maddie, let's get in the car. Let's drive across town in rush hour and let's go to the Mosby Woods Green area. We're not going to do that. But with a soccer field, if I go to Providence Park, there's a lot of people there. A lot of Fairfax City residents enjoying it. Not just me. Not if I just have my own individual park, but everybody in the city. And if we're looking at anything, it's the common good of a park in fields that everybody can enjoy. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. Nisi Edwards followed by Jackie Fairbarn followed by PJ Fairbarn. Nisi Edwards. to see Edwards. No? Okay. Jackie Fairbond followed by T.J. Fairbond followed by James Gillespie. Mayor Letter and members of the council. Is this thing working? I think so. We pull it down towards you. You can't hear in the back. As you're pulling a little closer there you go and talk right into it. It works. My name is Jackie Fairbonds. I live at 97.08 Ranger Road and I'm President of the Cambridge Station Association. Thank you for this opportunity to address you once again on the subject of the property and on the Stafford West. We also appreciate the effort you've made to bring Fairfax City residents into the picture of how the present ball field of the Don'tman proposal came about. While we appreciate your efforts and the excellent work done by the City's Parks and Recreation staff, we still feel that we were misled years ago when we voted to acquire land for parks and green space. At the time we voted to tax ourselves to buy land for parks, we did not intend to be used for highly developed sports facilities. Many times we've heard mention of the difficulty you face in balancing the needs of one group of citizens against the needs of another. We feel that there's something seriously out of balance with the proposal you're considering tonight. If you balance the city's current respectable number of sports fields against the number of, say, spaces for community gardens, you'll find a serious imbalance because the city is the only jurisdiction in North Virginia that has not a single area where residents can rent a garden plot. When you measure that same weight of developed ball fields against open outdoor classroom spaces, again the same series and balance since we have none of those either. There's another series and balance more noticeable every day. I don't know how much longer we can maintain our status as a tree city USA if we continue to take down the trees. The new buildings in the center of Fairfax City come right up to the sidewalk. So there's no room for trees. Maybe there might not even be room for a window box. Every time a small house is turned into a really big house, a portion of our tree canopy gets removed. Excuse me, gets removed. Every time a new development begins, we lose more of the tree canopy. These effects are evident in all parts of the city. We need to balance that loss of canopy with trees somewhere else, because there's no room for new trees where those are being removed. In many cases, even if new trees are planted, they will never reach maturity because their roots have no place to go. Stafford West, along with Stafford East, Ranger Road Park, Daniels Run, Van Dyke, Glenham, and other smaller parks and spring banks around the city provide the complimentary balance for trees to grow and enrich the life of every individual citizen of Fairfax City. Not to mention our neighbors in Fairfax County. We acknowledge that with a big enough bulldozer and a couple sticks of dynamite, you can make any piece of ground in an appropriate location for a ball field, but that does not make it the right thing to do. We encourage you to dismiss the current application and turn the seas attention, time and money to upgrading and maintaining the sports fields we already have. On balance, that is the right thing to do. And with your permission, I would like to read a letter that we received late this afternoon. It will just take a, I have one in 25 seconds left to find a. This letter is from Dr. R. Christian Jones, who is chair of the Environmental Science and Policy Department at George Mason University. And it's dated today. Dear Mr. Mayor and Council members, I would like to address the proposed ball field at the property off Stafford Drive in the Mosby Wood section of Fairfax City. First, let me say that I appreciate the time and effort put you and the city staff have contributed to this issue. Certainly, they're a valid and competing uses at stake with this property. I thank you for your efforts in trying to achieve an outcome that will be in the best interest of city residents. I am currently on a sabbatical for my position at George Mason University, so I've had to follow this issue mostly electronically. I did have a recent opportunity to view the property on one of our trips back. My comments are based on that visit and plans for the one-ball field option posted on the web. The one-ball field plan proposed as a good job of protecting the immediate Reparian area, back at Tink Creek, in accordance with the city's mapped resource protection area. As I understand it the proposal would generally say the additional buffer up to the crest of a ridge which parallels the creek through most of the property. In addition this would say many of the large trees on the slope and ridge although it looks like some on the western flank might be removed and I see I'm running out of time so I will summarize by reading the last paragraph. There have been suggestions that George Mason University might use this property as a living laboratory for class studying student projects. George Mason has created the Potomac Environmental Research and Education Center, which begins operation on July 1, and I will serve as its first director. In that role, I would be hacked to facilitate use of this and other city natural areas to the benefit of both the teaching and research program at George Mason, as well as the benefit of the city and its residents. In that regard, I think that a survey and inventory of the open spaces resources within the city after their ecological attributes and resources and their value as habitat, culminating in recommendations for management might be a good first step. This might serve as a basis for arriving at a consensus on the proper management of specific uses, specific tracks of city open space before proposals for specific uses that involve habitat alteration arise. I will be available to meet with you and our city staff to discuss this and other ideas about working together when I return August. Sincerely, our Christian Jones, Chair and Environmental Science and Policy Department. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. PGA Fair Barnes followed by James Gillespie followed by Debbie Crowley. Good evening. Is that okay? Sure. You can pull it down just a little bit. Good evening, Mayor Letter and Council Members. My name is CGA Fair Barnes. I live at 9-7-0800. I'm a new president and I'm a new mayor. I've been eating their letter and tells members my name is C.J. Therabans, other than 97 early renderer, I'm a new parent and a new middle school. Order this year for Community Service Project and Civics, I've explored two drains in just be back. The project was held the City's Public Works Department and was supported by the King of Station Association. Intentive City was to place one of his markers on every stone grain of city named to Jasvik Bay, which we all. The purpose of the markers is to cut down on the amount of pollutants going to Jasvik Bay. The ballfield proposed a stopper breast property or resulting moral stormwater running to the stream. Along with whatever trash, the ball field, personal life, and playground that generate. This not beginning is for Accatink Creek across the street from our house. And it's certainly not going to necessarily have ends of a chestnut bed. I know that preserving the natural beauty of staff or the West will not by itself save the chestnut bed. And they'll bring it into both fields, probably will not cause civilization to come to the crossing hall in the imperfect city. But I will also let preservation efforts miss out on smaller first, make up large rooms. I hope you see the larger picture here and preserve this unique habitat as part of our community commitment to preserving a chiswick day and ultimately aren't outclen. In closing, our questions lead with you to pause and consider the long-lasting detrimental effects of the field, the ball field development and that very least is there other uses for the specialty of your field-flex city. Thank you. Thank you, very nice pleasure. Thank you. Thank you. James Colesby, followed by Debbie Frode, followed by Ellen Pence. Mr. Mayor, am I committed to offer to trade my space in the line with any child or youth? No. Okay, so we'll give them their chance. Okay. We'll give them their chance. Okay. I'm Jim Galispie. My family and I live on 3, 6, 1, 8 heritage lane in the City of Fairfax. And we've been here 14 years as well. Our two children, Carl and H10 and Jack were the seven both play soccer. And I've been a volunteer soccer coach for the past three or four years, I think. And I just like to make a couple of points. soccer coach for the past three or four years, I think. And I just like to make a couple of points. For me, this issue really took a turn this spring, particularly with my daughter, Socrates. It was very just weird to watch her games because the nebulizer has now become part of the required equipment for many children. And one of the considerations of the coaches in putting children on the field is which kids can play in the dust and which kids have to play in the little grass on the side. It has, this, and this is the first year where for me it has sort of become a health issue. We're asking these kids to play in dust bowls. The fields are just, they're used so heavily that we need more fields. We need better synthetic kinds of turf so that these fields can be used heavily without degrading the fields and the environment. I guess just one more point, two more points very quickly. Just driving over here, I just happened here on WTOP, a new study has come out that says that one third of the kids in this country are overweight, 17 percent obese. And I'll tell you, it is gratifying every season when I coach, there's at least one or two kids on my team who visibly lose weight through the season out there exercising. I think it's very healthy for them. And lastly, a couple of months ago, I approached Mark Nation and said, you know, what if we get some of the guys together, you know, and play, some of us adults play, get our own recreation. You know, Mark told me, he said, you've got to be kidding. There is no field available for us to play at any time. And I'm happy to let the children have first dibs, but it would be nice if in the end adults can also have some recreational opportunities. I support the special use permit and the special exception. Thank you for your hard work on this issue. Thank you for your hard work on this issue. Thank you. Debbie Ferdy followed by Ellen Pence, followed by John Antelone. Good evening. Thank you for having us again and allowing us to speak and for all your hard work. On the last time I went to so many meetings with and I was working with Hildi Karni and actually Jim Blespie on the Blenum and congratulations on the groundbreaking understand that that just came through. So really I think I was at eight of those and in many basement level discussions to save that place. So great job. I just want to read what I voted on, and I think 2000 or 2001, just I know you've heard over but this is my premise. Do you support the establishment of a dedicated fund in the city of Fairfax to purchase available land for the purpose of managing the land as open space or park land? Would that fund provided through an increase of up to five cents in the real property tax rate for a period of not greater than five years? And I voted wholeheartedly, yes. I live in Cambridge Station, Adams Court. I guess because we had an invocation and we had a prayer, I'm not even mentioned that at my church, one of my good friends is Conrad Lottonbacher, who happens to be a retired admiral of the Pacific Fleet. And he also is the head of NOAA and has been the spokesman for it. And I talked to him at length because we have a lot of activities after service and he led an environmental kind of theory talk and what you can do and what the major problems are with our environment. And as we know, there are many, but he says water is number one, air is number two, and land is number three and have a tattoo loss. But he also, after I gave him any statements written by many people, we've tried to get his professionals because we're just citizens. He said, as he says, most people really don't understand the importance of small tracks such as this, meaning Stafford. And he says he certain degrees. So I just want to read a little bit about my experience as a Fairfax County graduate, graduated with Rob from Fairfax High School. I was a student athlete and on our student. I became a physical education teacher and had worked for 29 years at the Royal Middle School in Vienna. So I know kids, I've coached for 26 of those years. So some of the best memories and experiences I've had have been on a ball field in a gymnasium on the track. But equally important, or my experience as in nature, I was lucky and I can credit my mom and dad, who are also a Fairfax City residents, on 83 and 73, with the feeling that we had a connection to our natural world. Even as I was playing, whatever I could play, because I was a three-season athlete, and I went to college and a track scholarship and I coach now There was a connection and that's being lost and that I'm shaky because it's passionate for me My parents were my teachers. I wouldn't have cared so much if they hadn't taught me to care Fairfax County decided now the kids need to be taught about the environment. So, comes a little after I was taught by my folks, but if you've seen this screen book, that's the seventh grade Fairfax County curriculum. I've been on curriculum changes, I've been sitting on committees for my own subject, and it takes a lot of time and money and a lot of research to decide to change it. And it's called understanding our environment. Every kid and I think we have 163,000 students in Fairfax County and every seventh grade I went through this this year. They'll be more next year and it'll go and go and going on. And I look through this as I talk to two my colleagues yesterday and today and the kids are getting it, they're getting good science and they're getting a hands dirty. They went to a field trip a week ago to Annondale. I can't take it in the name. Hidden. Oh, good notes. And came home after three and a half hours of working in the water, working in the field and they had a real experience because in teaching, you know, you have to do the explanation, the demonstration and then you got a practice practice practice and that's what they got out of it and they say they're on fire about this new curriculum but I just found it interesting it's in a green packet and it's all about the environment and you know the post says today it's time to invest in our own backyard and this is in our backyard and I know maybe you can't all walk to it, but you can get there. And more than that, it's going to affect everything that it touches, including our kids. Here are some of the things that are in this book. Here's a question, what specifically do governments, scientists, citizens help to accomplish in order to improve conditions of the Bay Area and its watershed. Here are the terms the kids learn, biome, grassland, habitat, ecosystems, food webs, buffer zone, stomata, diversity. They learn actually see trash and pollution effects on land and soil. They test the water. They check out dissolved oxygen levels. I don't even know what that is. They learn how all the components of an ecosystem work together and that it's a complicated task. The kids are fired up about it. Ten days ago, like I said, they visited, they had to write something up. They did a water sample and that's what teachings about. Well, they're learning to be stewards and appreciate that you can't build a habitat but you can help sustain it and protect it. We're teaching them to believe that by our curriculum. Fairfax, we all spent the money to get the message across and they're getting it. And it's working. The kids care and they know it's their science. This curriculum is devoted, as my friend said, to the preciousness of the environment and it's right here. It doesn't have to be money spent in the Arctic. It doesn't have to go to the Amazon. It can go right here and we forget that sometimes. What a great message to send our kids when we protect this land, that we believe in what we created for them to learn through this, and we care about the future. The opposite message is unfathomable, that you don't practice what we teach. So thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Alan Pence followed by John Anzalone, followed by Chuck Scherke. I'm Ellen Pants and I'm at 3211 Adams Court in We're all of this. Oh, okay. I know you are weary with all of this. I am a former FPYC soccer mom and teacher in Fifx County Public Schools retired, but I still substitute. I would like to address something that was brought up and discussed at the mayor's outreach meeting and has come up again tonight. Apparently some people seem to think that putting a ball field on the suffered property will eliminate the problem of homeless people living on that land. It may just place them temporarily, but they are not going to go away. They are found in all the wooded areas near the circle. They will simply move their encampments across Stafford or across Fairfax Boulevard, or they will just stay in Stafford West. I am a member of the National Alliance for the Mentally Il. The acronym is NAMI N-A-M-I. According to NAMI studies, at least one-third of the homeless suffer from some form of mental illness. Those illnesses get schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, OCD, panic disorder, and clinical depression. Must be diagnosed and treated with appropriate prescription drugs usually for long periods of time. People who suffer from these brain disorders often become homeless without diagnosis treatment and close monitoring by healthcare professionals. They self-neticate with alcohol and other non prescribed drugs. The only help available to these people in Fairfax City is the Lamb Center at the Circle. Operated by Christian Church groups which provides food and toiletries, clothing, showers, and laundry services. But the Lamb Center has no overnight facilities and no health services for these people. The City of Fairfax has and does not provide any home homeless shelters at all. The LAMS Center sometimes refers people to the Bayley's Crossroad Shelter operated by volunteers of America. If there is a bed available, the homeless person is given bus fare and a transfer to get to the shelter. Here she may stay there for not more than 30 days and then is put out on the streets and is homeless again. Our state, the Commonwealth of Virginia, has a shameful, woeful history of care for the memory ill. NAMI has report card in which it grades the states on infrastructure, information access, services, and recovery supports for the memory ill. The town well grade is a D. The overall grade is a D, which is better than F, but not very good. Because the state has dropped the ball on this issue over and over, the city of Fairfax needs to do a lot more than we are doing for the homeless people who sometimes inhabit our open space. No one wants them there. They are squatting on land that doesn't belong to them. But at that moment, when you see them there, it is their only home. Throwing a ball field at the homeless to make them scatter elsewhere shows a total lack of understanding of a complex issue and the size it's really cold. In addition these facts you should be aware of. Stafford Drive was never meant to be anything but a service road into our development, which has been called the best kept secret in Fairfax City. You council members should not vote according to how many emails you get from either side. You are elected to think, not count emails. When you tell me how many emails you get on a topic that tells me that you are not thinking. One of your staff members stated that Stafford West was a perfect piece of land for ball fields. I don't think so. By the way, we are not nineties because we already have two soccer fields of budding our development and those are the draper fields. We have fields in our backyard. And finally, just like the homeless squatters, we consider Stafford West to be our home. Make it a place where the science teachers at Fairfax High School can teach biology and conservation be creative, but please don't tell us that you're putting a ball field in to get rid of the homeless. John Anzalone followed by Chuck Sierke followed by John Spankham. Mayor Letter, City Council, thank you for this opportunity to come here tonight to speak to you. My name is John Anzalone and I reside at 10105 Scout Tribe in Mosby Woods. I'm speaking tonight on behalf of myself as well as the Anzalone family that has lived in Mosby Woods since 1962. I'm speaking to you tonight because I believe the development of ball fields will have a detrimental impact on our quality of life and lessen the value of our homes, excuse me. Specifically, I ask that all the members of this council don't know on this development. I ask for your no vote because I feel that our community will not be able to cope with the additional traffic caused by the ballfield. Soccer games usually last one hour and the plan is to use the fields to their maximum capacity. Given the current plan caused for 52 parking spaces, the residents of Mosby Woods and Cambridge Station can expect 52 cars coming and 52 cars going roughly every hour during the weekends and sometimes on the weekdays. I can tell you having lived in those bewoods for almost 40 years that the current roads will not be able to handle that volume of traffic. Because every turn of the light lets out only at maximum about seven cars. The wait time to exit our neighborhood will increase dramatically. Stafford Drive will become clogged with cars and Ranger Road will become a thoroughfare as people drive up Ranger to get to plantation Parkway. But plantation Parkway will also become clogged. In fact, it is my own personal prediction that the traffic will back up on plantation parkway from the light on Route 50, all the way to the traffic sign on the corner of plantation and ranger. Believing vehicles will not be the only problem. Finding a parking space will also present a challenge. Besides the players and their parents, family members, friends, and relatives of the players will also come to watch the games, especially if it's an important game or a championship. It is not hard to imagine that traffic will overflow from the 52 reserved parking spaces. Where were all these people parked? They will park on the streets of Cambridge Station and most be woods. This clearly will be an unacceptable situation and quite frankly it will be miserable for everyone, residents and ball players alike. In addition to the traffic, there will also be noise caused by whistles and screening fans. As it is, we all hear the games at Fairfax High School. With this field, we will hear even more noise and our quality of life and property values will further decrease. It is very convenient for others who do not live by these fields to want them. They will come, use the fields, and then return to their own safe, quiet, and less congested neighborhoods. But is the people who live by the ball fields who will have to constantly contend with the increased noise, traffic, pollution, and other inconveniences. That's not fair. For the record, I will say that I also played FPYC soccer as did my three sisters and my father coach FPYC soccer. It's not against being against the kids or against the fields. It's about finding the appropriate location for the ball fields. Perhaps we could look at other alternatives. Perhaps using the field over at Van Dyke Park or maybe expanding the ball fields. Perhaps we can look at other alternatives, perhaps using the field over at Van Dyke Park, or maybe expanding the existing fields at Draper Drive. This is our home. This is the only place that we have. This is where we go to live. Please, we ask you to not to please keep this field as open space so that we can preserve our neighborhood and our quality of life. Thank you. Chuck, Turkey followed by John's excuse me. Yeah, Chuck, sir, he followed by John's, thank you, followed by Dwayne Murphy. I'm Chuck, sir, I live at 3228 Adams Court in Cambridge, station. And I wish to thank the mayor and the council for this opportunity to address you on this issue. And I would urge you to not approve this proposal because I'm a taxpayer and this is a gross misuse of funds and it is a disservice to the athletic community. You're paying for this land about $5 million is I understand it. You're improving them for about another $2.6 million. That's $7.6 million and has already been mentioned. There's an impact on the land values in the neighborhood. I talked to my mortgage banker and he says that with this field, my property value will decrease. When my property value decreases, I will pay less in tax. And that adds to the cost to the taxpayer. The alternatives for the athletic community are considerable. I play sports. I play football into college, my children play sports, and most of the people in Cambridge station and most of the woods, and in the condos, I've also played sports with my children. It's not about that, and in fact, you're gonna get more for your money with alternatives. For about $7.68 million, you can improve about seven to eight fields. As I understand, the cost of an improvement of an existing field, turf field, and to make it artificial turf, it runs anywhere from two thirds of a million to a million dollars. You could take six to eight fields and convert them for the price that you're paying for this field. You could also go out and buy land. You have alternatives and the children could be better served with more fields and the taxpayer would not be paying the money is being misused in this way. Thank you for letting me see. John Spankle followed by Gle Murphy, fellow by Thomas Mesa. John Spank, a fellow by Grain Murphy, fellow by Thomas Mesa. Again, John Spank and I are a fellow. It seems funny to me that the questions were brought up at PS to do is why we can't ask for the existing fields that are in ready condition, which is there's no debate about that. But it seems funny that the answer to that was money. But still unclear to me, it's definitely a cheaper alternative than to spend the X amount of $2.5 million approximately to go those out of the drive when we can't take care of what we already have. The most people are in the poor-bow condition. That I don't understand. And the other gentleman came up with something about I'd like to have a place to fly a kite with my grandchildren and I was in the movie woods. Well, that's funny, but we already had games where we didn't play the drive already existing right now, for pretty cool stuff right now. And I'm just going to close on for real quick as the work papers that was last week. So for here, the Herd and Sur are put up at the Spur and traffic that the Fairfax Board is today for allowing the development of industry to sway its decisions. Now I know that isn't exactly what we're talking about here, but it's close. And I'm tree also this probably from the post is welcome to 50 kind of, you know, just business. We've seen that. Now we already know we've been over that many times. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Guine Murphy, followed by Thomas Mesa, followed by Erica Webber. Mayor Letter, council members, I'm Guine Murphy. Coordinator of an all volunteer lead group, Friends of Accident Creek, wanted to be here, read my statement and ask that it be entered into the record and its entirety. Thank you for the opportunity to speak at this meeting. For the past two years, friends of Accotink Creek gladly organized Earth Day Stream clean up plants within the city of Fairfax. During Earth Day Stream clean up this year, on April 28th, a partner P.J. Skadoos walked over to Accotink Creek but was delayed by a lady there, perhaps the owner of Chalos, who might help cut down an invasive tree full of thorns growing in a garden. She says she continually cleans up the creek in the trail behind her business and was appreciative of us helping. As we parted company, I went back to my task and then several young ladies walking down the trail stopped and asked if I could help them. Here I am today. I had no idea there was a nature always, it's in a city that's staffer properties, it's best to staffer west. I live at 922, Barrington, in Berk, and our interest is all of the Akitant Creek watershed and city of Fairfax has the awesome position of being in the very headwaters of that with lots of spring water, lots of great headwaters of the Akatink and it's a very pristine place that you're doing a good job of restoring. However, I've observed your caring for the environment and how you support the people in your fine city and the visitors who love birds by protecting the nearly 400 tall hardwoods on a ridge near Akitink Creek, you call Stafford West. This greatly benefits the strain that is recovering from a very poor ecological health. I've observed actions with Demistrate you truly care about the environment and believe when you know what is important to preserve you take appropriate action to actually protect it. I truly believe in my heart that you will protect it when you know that edge habitat, burrow pools and meadows are important in many forms of wildlife, especially the migratory songbirds and hummingbirds, because that is where they find food shelter and can raise their young in the quiet meadow, the brush, the small trees. When you know the edge habitat is where you hear songbirds all day long, I believe you will protect it. I truly believe that when you know there is a clac the city of Fairfax where many find it relaxing and restorative to go and quietly observe and listen to the songs of nature you will protect it. I truly believe in my heart that when you know there is a place where all local schoolchildren and university students can visit a short distance from their schools to study and can help restore it to a more pristine environment you will protect it. I truly believe in my heart when you know there is a place with brunal pulls in which frogs and toads lay eggs and tadpoles developed. There are seasonal wetlands that still abound with black willows, water grasses and reeds, and the meadow is full of box turtles. Even though a ditch has been dug to drain it, you will protect and restore it. I believe when you know a place where many animals, birds and beneficial insects make their home, including hawks, owls, bees, fish, you will protect it. I have observed in a very short while you truly care for the environment and believe in my heart you know what is there. When you know what is there you will save it for future generations. Here I am today asking you to save a nature oasis in the headwaters of the Chesapeake Bay, an area of many interacting habitats in a small area, a perennial stream, a church trees, a vernal pool, a metto with an area of marsh grasses and reeds, and an area of small trees and brush. That area of small trees and brush is what many people don't know and have never studied in school often looked at it as wasteland, a scrubland, but they don't know the riches and ecological benefit of such a habitat. I've learned it's all our duties as good stewards to learn about the various habitats that promote teaching future generations to cherish them as places of extraordinary biological activity. In the vital edges of the buffers, the tall trees, you so diligently protect. The Stafford West, Second Generation, and adjacent force habitats are crucial for the long-term integrity of each. When you have heard all the arguments, either you will make the right decision to protect the environment tonight with your vote note to the athletic field of Stafford West, which is a vote yes to further the ecological education of the athletes and all the students. Or you will decide to delay your final decisions so an in-depth study and survey suggested by Dr. Jones can be done by environmental experts and you will help that that will help you learn more about the riches in the very habitat, expand your good stewardship environment, and promote more environmental education at a time when we read scientific reports of nail bass growing eggs in their bodies and bees dying in 35 states. If I could ask you to read it. Thank you. Thanks. Appreciate it. Now is my question. Now is my question. Why would you vote any other way than no in the Gulf to the Gulf field? They both support all the citizens of the city of Fairfax. Not mainly after it's and most of those come from outside the city when we have not heard reports discussed other than hopefully tonight by recognized world class environmental experts on the order of those who have already reviewed Stafford West Property and tell us of the virtual natural oasis that deserves protections for its unique environment and for study for many future generations. Thank you. Thomas Mesa followed by Eric O'Weber followed by Marina Flyger. Good evening. First of all, Mr. Mayor and State Council members and most of the staff of who took the time to try to educate us on the project. I think the site visit on May 31st was very lightning and very important. So I want to commend you for taking that extra step. At the end of the day, I think that you're probably trying to balance very different interests and trying to reach a very good compromise. And how you've worked hard and you're trying to keep alive, what you need determined to be the spirit of that vote, where that went, when the decision was taken concerning the ballroom versus the ballfield versus just leaving the land as it is. So I commend you for all of that. But at the end of the day, I think that I will throw my lot with those who continue to oppose the building of the ballfields as opposed to this project. I won't take up too much time because one of the disadvantages of being a speaker further down the list is that previous speakers have already addressed the lives of issues that you wish to address concerning the degradation of the quality of life in most of the woods. I live in one of the two Ranger Road and also the issues of the tax base and the value in the properties and the environmental impact. And all the other concerns have been raised before. I second all those and urge you to oppose the construction of the both fields. My son's also participated in sports who've taken greater advantage of that. And I think that while you've done a valid effort to try to reach a compromise on this issue, I think he still falls short. I just want to add just two more points picking up on the previous because elaborate concerns on the environment. Just noting on the report you on page three, where it talks about the water quality analysis and the wetland reconnaissance study, it seems to me that before you make any decision on this, I think there what you need to do is to wait for these studies. Apparently, they're not a not be completed according if I read this correctly. And it's kind of difficult to take a decision such as this one which is very important for a lot of people without having everything in consideration. It's okay to talk about taking, to take proper steps, once these studies are taken after the decision is made, I think given the importance and the divisions that decision was caused, I think it behooves you to wait to get all the answers before making our decision. I'm missing this on the, I'm reading correctly, what's here on page three of the report. So I urge you to keep the words and keep the quality of life. And once again, as I spoke before in the other issue that we discussed a few months back, that one of the great successes of this city of this council is a fact that a lot of effort and money and time has been spent in order to provide open spaces. And I think it's time for everyone to stand up and say open spaces are important. It's good for us. It's good for the quality of life of the city. So let's stick with it. Keep the open spaces. Keep the trees. And let's move on. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Erica Weber, fellow, my marina flagger. Erica Weber. Marina. Thank you. Good evening. Honorable Mayor and City Council. My name is Marina Fleger. I live at 9700 Ranger Road, Cambridge Station. In the name of my husband Jim Fleger and myself, thank you for the opportunity to comment or not propose ball field. Our chief objection is still environmental. Preserving staff address in his current state will continue to contribute to the cooling of the city and lessen the removal of our life habitats. This is why we voted yes to a dedicated fund for open space or parkland acquisition to an increase to our real property tax rate. The definition of open space or parkland does not cover soccer fields, parking lots, lights, and related structures. As it seems that environmental argument do not weigh us heavily, with city officials and athletic officials, as the pits, grudts, and puddles they have encounter on grass fields which require frequent maintenance. So it was decided to build yet another field thinking it would alleviate a shortage in unusable fields. Well, this say not so fast. Couple of weeks ago on a rainy Sunday, we observed a soccer game being played on one of the draper drag ballfields, which is approximately 300 feet behind my hat. The field was in deplorable condition, no turf, but all mud, not fit to play on. A large percentage of our neighborhood ball fields if graded would receive a C, D, or F reflecting the poor conditions in many city parks and the need for improved maintenance. We ask that instead of using the funds appropriated for the Staffford west ball field, the park and recreation department should start a city-wide initiative to improve the performance of all existing ball fields. Make plans for the installation of the new generation of synthetic turf, which will increase community access to field as well as solve the maintenance challenge of grass that everybody talks about. To me, this is cost effective. The savings for field are significant and you can go full speed ahead all the time. Any grass field to survive, it must be shut down for at least four or five months a year. But synthetic turf needs very little maintenance and would provide at least 50% more safe playing time for fear-fect city use. Grape drive park is a perfect location to start with the renovations. It has great access in and out. Two ball fields and a large parking lot. The portable bathroom should be replaced with a permanent facility. It could be something to be proud of. Right now it is shameful. If we want to know if we want to be known for our ball parks in Fairfax City as some officials indicated, we ought to renovate, upgrade and retrofit the 21 parks we have now. In our six-month square city, the Department of Parks and Recreation should also be involved in ecosystem management and the protection of our natural resources. We are for Parkland, my husband and I, in the real sense of the word, hiking and bicycle trails. I ask that you kindly consider our statement very carefully, and we thank you for your time. Good night. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Nobody else has previously signed up with anybody like to address the City Council on this item. Yes, sir. Thank you. Thank you. If you please give us your name and address for the record. My name is Gary Perryman. I live at 11008 Westmore Drive. I'm the President of Westmore Citizens Association, which includes auto woods, punk in place, warm woods, and joy sites. A lot of people are talking about upgrade the old fields, but the problem isn't the greater the fields, the number of the fields we have more teams than we have space to play on. In 2001, the City Council voted and approved an agreement with the people in the city, including most of the woods in Cameron's station to purchase the property with the express condition to put in ball fields. As mentioned in previous meetings, both most of the woods communities expressed their sentiment in writing. Now, six years later, they wished to change the agreement. The rest of the city now feels cheated because our children still do not have ball fields to play or practice on. I'd like to know when did ball fields become such an evil thing? The same communities were all in favor of putting a condo on the adjacent property with no worry of drainage or how many trees were cut down at the time. The next use the idea of homeless drug addiction, drunks having hanging out where this field is. Those sort of people do not hang out in open fields. They like to hide in the woods as one of the people have already stated. When proposed at one of the previous meetings to link the city trails with the property, again these people objected, they would appear to the rest of the city that these two communities want their own private space. I propose if the city council does not honor their commitment of 2001 that the property be put back up for sale, and if most of the woods and their counterparts want they can purchase the property and then they can do with it whatever they want. Then the City Council can purchase another place and put the money to use to build fields. The City is now growing and the need is inadequate now. The future will only make a bad problem, much worse for our children. A conclusion I want to add that I did go to the city manager or left the message for him that I talked to the people at Westmore School. They are more than willing to have a second field put in there with the one that's already proposed. But I do not want the one that's at most be would, sorry, at Stafford Property to be taken away. The problem, as I stated before, is not the quality of the fields. It's the quantity. We have more teams than we have fields to allow these kids to play. So we discussed this at our meeting, and like I said, I represent five different communities. And to a person, everybody agrees that this proposal should go through, and it should include the lighting so that they can get the maximum use of the field. Thank you. Yes, ma'am, please. I'm sorry. You're going to have to come to the microphone and give us your name and address. Okay. Ma'am, if you could, if you could give us your name and address for the work. She burns and I live on I live in most beards. Okay. And I've gone into the schools for 30 years and there are ball fields and there's lots of land around it. There's already parking there. It could be done at the local schools. There's Cedar Lane, there's, well, just all kinds of schools. And I didn't intend to speak, but I hear all this nonsense about it has to be right in my backyard. And I've gone to the schools and there is land there. And there is some lighting, but there definitely is parking too. So please reconsider. I lived at most bewitch for 30 years and it's a wonderful, there are deer back there. There are foxes back there. It's a beautiful place and the streams are nice and we welcome kids to come there for their outings and whatnot. But we don't need a ball field there. Thank you. Good evening and thank you for the opportunity to speak. My name is Shelley Van. I live at 3220 Cambridge Court and I'm answering your attention from mostly environmental arguments to the issue of traffic. Hopefully you can see this. Picture the intersection of Fairfax Boulevard and Stafford Drive Any time between 4 and 6 p.m. Monday through Friday. At that time of day, drivers waiting to turn left From Stafford onto Eastbound Fairfax Boulevard Wait for three minutes and 25 seconds for the light to change in their favor. I know because I termed it. Cars coming from Cambridge Station and most bewards, condos. Some come from maybe one or two come from Kentucky Fried Chicken and the bulk come from Sherwood Building to this access here. The distance between the intersection and the KFC driveway accommodates three to four cars. It takes a lot less time than three minutes, 25 seconds for more than three or four cars to back up. The next car to get in line now blocks the access to KFC. Within seconds more cars get in line. During the same two hour time period, going eastbound on Fairfax Boulevard who want to turn left onto Stafford Drive to go home or to KFC, wait in the left turn lane which can accommodate six to seven cars. These drivers can turn either on the third green light when there's a break in the westbound traffic or get the green arrow to turn left and proceed on Stafford which has only one northbound lane. Being close to dinner time, one of these drivers is going to KFC, so he in turn intends to turn left, going to the KFC driveway. However, because the access is blocked by drivers waiting to turn left on the eastbound Fairfax, the driver must stop to wait for the blocking traffic to clear, perhaps more than three minutes. The car blocking the KFC access cannot back up to make an opening because several more cars have lined up. Just as with the outbound traffic, the space behind the stopped KFC vehicle can accommodate only two or three cars. Drivers turning left onto Stafford begin to make their turn into the intersection without looking far enough ahead at the situation. Of course they should look ahead to ensure that they can complete their turn before beginning it, but they don't. They end up in the box in the way of... Oh, no. This is the situation that exists now. What happens when ball field traffic is added to the rush hour mix? Forty to 50 cars coming, going to, and 40 to 50 cars exiting Stafford, all within 20 minutes of each other. If Stafford's green light allows dozens of cars to get out onto Fairfax Boulevard, the traffic might have a chance to clear. But any resident or sure would employee can tell you that only five cars can exit from Stafford onto Fairfax Boulevard during the green light, which lasts all of 12 seconds. And that assumes everyone is paying attention. The rate is so long that drivers often get distracted. So now cars are backed up from the intersection, halfway back up range of to range of road, perhaps blocking the ball field exit. Perhaps blocking the Sherwood Plaza exit. You do the math. Five cars per green light from waiting three minutes, 25 seconds, for the next green light, another five cars, and so on. A southbound driver could wait some three cycles to get out of present ten minutes idling, wasting gas, and colluding the air. So what do drivers do to deal with this intolerable situation? Those from the ball field ignore the no left turn sign you may have posted and turn northward onto Stafford. Go up to Ranger Road and over to Plantation Parkway. Forest from Sherwood Plaza also turn northward onto Stafford heading for Plantation Parkway. And people who live in the condos and Cambridge station don't even try to come south on staffer at that time of day. They too head for plantation parkway. But at least they will miss the accidents that are likely to increase as Westbound Fairfax Boulevard drivers broadside. The left-turn drivers who are stopped in the box because traffic cannot proceed past the KFC access. The traffic situation at this intersection is already bad. It is entirely unsuitable to put any activity on the Stafford track that increases cartage to the extent even one ball field will at that time of day. Please delay your decision on this use of the Stafford track in order to re-examine the several other ways there are to create more playing time at existing fields, find more suitable locations for new ball fields, and find a more appropriate use for this piece of land. Thank you. Yes sir, please. Gary Cider, 10315, Pullmont Street. I should look pretty familiar to you. Is the third time now I've been up here speaking on this. You know where I think you probably know where I stand, my support is, I won't say unwavering for the current proposal because I still think it's, I don't want to open up a can of worms, but I still think lighting should be considered this track. But given that, I think with the current proposal with this special use permit, I think we should go ahead and vote on it tonight. I hope that your support is for this project. As several speakers have said before me that you know this feels a great need in this society in this community. And we just don't have enough capacity for the children today in this city as well as in the surrounding Fairfax County neighborhoods. I'd like to say 10 days ago we had, was National Trails Day and the city had its own celebration and several of the, you members before me, we're at Van Dyke Park in Celebrating Our Trail Network. And one thing that's been, I've heard discussed tonight and it was in the staff report, is the consideration of possibly linking or not linking the staff or trails with or without fields to the city's trail network. And I think it would be a big mistake to take this parcel off of the city's trail network and not connect it to a draper drive and further west into other parts of the city. And one thing that's frustrating to me and I want to dispel is I'll remember the city's Parks and Recreation Advisory Board and a lot of people who are in opposition to this proposal have painted it as FBYC and the Parks and Recreation Advisory Board wanted to do nothing but just go in and every possible parcel, putting fields and things like that. And just wanted to spell that this is not the highest priority by that board, by the Parks and Recreation Advisory Board. We have other things that we have to hold in higher priority. But we do our unanimous in our support that this is the best proposal to fit the need of our children and our sports clubs. So please consider taking a vote finally tonight and I do hope you support this project. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Good evening, everyone. My name is Malcolm Mercer. I live with 103.01 Confederate Lane. And I'm very interested in the workings that everyone's done in Williams tonight and other nights. I'm in favor, of course, of nature and playing part in the more wallfields. A comment on that if you have money would be to connect the trails as someone said because that would be a nature type of thing and bring the trail down more towards the stream and not towards the wallfield if you should have a wallfield. Now if you have a ball field, my comments on that, you've allowed the 52 parking spaces. However, you've given me permission on page 11 to sit 185 people. Now, how many cars do 185 people come in? So I think that if you have a ball field, first of all, I'd like to see the park and go back up till I get 85. I'm a long time resident here about 30 years. My children grew up here, went to school here, both of them are teachers. One of them is a most becorts who happens to be a coach and does baseball and football in Arlington County. I asked them about the wall fields and he said, if you have a soccer field, he would recommend that you do put in a restroom. So I would have to say I would support that if the field goes in. Speaking of restrooms, we also have to consider the maintenance of the restrooms, the security of the restrooms and who pays for that. Another question I have to bring before you is I see a lot of folks here from soccer teams and someone tonight actually said that the county provides excellent, I'll just throw out a number I think it's a level. And the city provides 13. Now, how come the city is providing so many soccer fields and the soccer fields with providing are in very poor condition? So I would say that we do not vote for the fields, spend the money on a business So many soccer fields and the soccer fields we're providing are in very poor condition. So I would say that we do not vote for the fields, spend the money on improving the field we have and spend some money on making some decent plot trails. Thank you very much. Yes sir. Good evening. My name is Robert Carr. My address is 3300 plantation parkway in the city of Fairfax. During the last month or two, I took some time to research to find information that's available to the residents of Fairfax County and Fairfax City as far as what is the happenings when it comes to recreational facilities or properties. And what I did find online on one of the pages of Fairfax County government is the report done by a company which they hired to do an assessment of the recreational needs of county residents. I think the report's probably 60 to 80 pages long something like that. Very interesting data. What I pulled out for tonight was among the highest needs that were stated from this report included small parks, walking trails, and bicycle trails. Among the lower needs were rectangular ball fields as they put it. Unfortunately, this is such a heated debate going on that there seems to be the us's and the those and the who's in the what's here And that's not what it really should be about Fairfax City is a very small geographical location Fairfax County surrounds us with an enormous size Fairfax City is old. We have parks. We have fields to prove it We have parks, we have fields to prove it. I ask the City Council to vote no for this development in completion. Why do I feel this way? Because I feel that you put in the cart for the horse in weighing or considering a new development when we have several other developments that as stated by many speakers tonight and previous nights are in very poor shape. One of the statements that I read from the report from the county government was that by retrofitting their current fields with artificial turf increases their playability by more than 50%. Now there's a few million dollars on the table for the projects you're considering. I think it would be a much smarter way to spend our money by leaving city staff, analyzing our current fields, determining what is needed as far as to make the fields increase their on playability such as retrofitting them with artificial turf. Please consider if it is a consideration the property at 11 Oaks on school street. And I would also encourage you and the county to create a highly public partnership as far as the recreational needs and what actions need to be taken together as a team for both the city and county residents. Please again vote no on this development. Thank you. Thank you. No ball feels without bathrooms nor without lights nor without artificial turf. The lemonade in the cell phone towers deserves praise. Artificial turf is expensive and can take much more use without aduse. If installed it should be used as extensively as feasible to increase the return on the investment and take the strain off grass fields. It makes little sense to create a field without lights, especially considering for the lights could be lower than the horizon to the north beyond which are most of the woods in Cambridge Station. But even if not, the lights, as you already know, can be shielded so the light is directed down to the field and away from most of be woods and Cambridge station. Installing the infrastructure for lights is mandatory as doing so later damages the turf at great expense. But you should not put a ball field here at Stanford West. If you have any serious regard for the indigenous wildlife, obviously if you don't care about doing the required environmental impact study, which will witness that you are first, or at least the previous meeting on the subject, a woman attorney articulately told you you were required to do, then just go ahead and do your own thing. Listen to the huddled masses, the seated masses, the conspiring masses, crying loudly, crucify, crucify the wild life. Remember that caving into the majority isn't always prudent. It was a majority who demanded the crucifixion of Christ. And what about this magic catch all solution word, compromise? The post-Puncis pilot had proudly announced in the spirit of compromise, now only one hand and one foot of Christ to the cross. Actually he did try to compromise by severely less rating him in humanely so than he So then he caved in and crucified him anyway. Why should we? Why should we? How could we expect you to do otherwise than to show contemptuous disregard for the botanical and biological wildlife? After all, did you not use three males on the council. Did you not destroy virtually Providence Park by gutting it several years ago by knocking down and abrooting the vast majority of the trees? All but a couple grows on the perimeter just to make room for one more ball field. And now tonight, a second hammer falls as you approve a second ball field at Providence Park. I haven't heard any height for several years about the City of Fairfax being the recipients of another tree city award. Maybe I just missed it. But if you foolishly destroy the nature habitat at Stafford West or even diminish it and drive out the wildlife, I hope you will at least have the decency to reject any misguided person who nominates the City of Fairfax as a tree city USA. Remember that compromise is a four-letter word, as is also the word rape, which the law defines as penetration, however slight. Don't play mental games and think you can be virtuous by compromising, by destroying some of the Stafford Westland. Previous speakers were right. Socrates feels do not satisfy the definition of open space. And our tax money would give us all a bigger return by installing artificial turf on all our existing ball fields. Thanks to the man who stood here tonight and first said that to be copy-catted by several cents, including me. And that traffic is another sneak of point at all. Already a nightmare will be impossible. So show us. Show us. What are you made of? Are you sane or are you stupid? I already know the answer. Now show us. Who else would like to address the City Council? I would like to top that. The given shooting anything I'd just do. I'm in this Christine Lee games and I live at 103.02. Confederate Lane. I am currently on the board of directors at most be woods and I'm also on the PTA at my kids school. Most be Woods Elementary. Previous to that, for 15 years I worked at the Environmental Protection Agency, and since I've been about this talk, I've been an environmentalist, so I listen very carefully to everybody that had something to say about the environment. I'm here to tell you that the most precious resource that we all have is our children. That matters to me more than anything else in the environment and maybe I'm the only person here that does, but I hope not and I don't think so. Neither of my children play soccer. My children play baseball, little league, softball, and they belong to the North of Virginia swim league, which keeps me very busy the most of July. However, I am still in favor of the ball pops, not because of any personal benefit to my family or to myself, but I have three words to say on that. Virginia Tech and Columbine. Not very fun words, but serious words. The kids, and I say kids, meaning generally, anybody younger than me is a kid. Who were the perpetrators of those incidents where isolated social outcasts not involved in sports and not involved in anything? And as a community of adults, I think it's important to provide ball states, even if it's important to provide ball space. Even if it's not your particular space that your kids will play in because my kids don't play soccer. But there will be a lot of children in this city who will benefit from the placement of ball fields there. We do not have enough ball fields. When my son is playing Little League, do you think we have any place to practice? No, we have places for games. That's it. If we want to practice? No, we have places for games. That's it. If we want to practice, we practice in our driveways. I play every time that he doesn't hit the windows or the China or anything else. They're justice and not enough space. But here we have an opportunity to change lives of children offering more kids a chance to get involved with other kids and offering interactions socially with adult mentors who are in charge and watching to make sure that the interactions are positive. I don't think we should support the field even if personally it doesn't benefit us because it will as a society. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Mr. Mr. My name is Kenneth Mullen. I'm on the board at Mosby Woods Condominium Association. Let me say first of all, I hope y'all's chairs are more comfortable with us. I'm just sitting here for Mosby Woods Condemann Association. And let me say first of all, I hope y'all's chairs are more comfortable a lot. I just had to sit here for two and a half hours. Not much. I will be brief. Let me just go back a few years when I was younger. I had to football games down in Alabama, high school, on Friday night. And we had to have police to escort the referees away because the crowds are so rabid. Hopefully that's not true tonight. I just like to address an issue with effects. The people that most people that it's kind of in association most directly more than anyone else. I remember when our kids were small, we'd go to Harshawe as we tracked the horses here and there, you know, but actually the show was over. The kids would say, that would you take the horse's home, we're going to Sally's for a party. So, that has to load up the horses, pull the trailer back home, unhits the trailer, unload the horses, feed them water them, put the tax away, and go to bed, the kids are out partying. And I'm afraid if we have the ball field area at Stafford, that it'll be a day's job view, what will happen is actually the parents all go home thrilled with the way the kids perform the kids are all happy with what those they made or what they prevented then the people the most be with will be left with the noise the lights the traffic and the trash is left behind so I ask your consideration so the people who live immediately next to the field people the most people that's coming association. Thank you all. Honorable my name is Tom Edick, 32-49's, Cambridge Court, Honorable Mayor, City Council members. Thank you again for allowing further discussion on this most important matter. I have appeared that your most recent council meetings including the outreach meeting for short two weeks ago, I submitted letters and email requesting certain information and documentation before moving ahead. Speaking for myself, I wish to make it abundantly clear that I am not opposed to additional recreational facilities in the form of ball fields for all Fairfax City. For Fairfax City youth and citizens alike to use an enjoy, I received an announcement yesterday in the mail of a botchy field down at the senior citizen. I'm happy to report that I believe, I lie in the club, puts money into the city's to help put that fuel up. Now, let's boss you ball. We won't get into that. But it's something that the seniors can enjoy and children too. However, the concern is not whether there is need for additional ball fields in the city, but rather the most feasible use a certain limited and I stress very limited properties that are irreplaceable when it comes to protecting the natural habitat. Surely, we can find other properties within the city, most of which may be already owned by the city that could serve athletic recreational needs in a far superior manner than a destruction or loss of a portion put a very limited natural habitat inventory. In this regard, in all my previous discussions and course on this with you, I have pleaded with the council to seeers who look at the questions that I presented. Not only the question of the more ballfields, but they were eight questions. I have not received any response to those. I don't know if they're even being considered. But the issues have been brought up your time and time again tonight. We don't have facts to move ahead on a decision like this until we get data to hit facts and answer some of those basic questions as to what is the right thing? Even if it is a ball field, is it being done in the right way? We haven't answered that. I would like to point out my I have sincere gratitude that goes out to you mayor. And many of the council members for the decision last April to reduce the footprint. From two ball fields to one single field with the possibility of eliminating nighttime activities. That was a gutsy move. And you did so after personally visiting the site and unilaterally deciding that the two ball fields were just far too vigorous. Now I ask all the city to follow up on my basic and I believe most important questions before concluding the decision. Now, in sports, we say time out. Is it time out? Should we take time out? Do we have to make a decision tonight? Should we study? Should we look at some of those basic questions, the issues of which have been raised here tonight? should we look at some of those basic questions, the issues of which have been raised here tonight. Now, to your benefit, you have looked at the traffic. I don't agree with that traffic study and all to respect to a professional colleague. However, I disagree that you need that 400 or 390 feet. You have authority and I'm sure the state would grant it if you wanted to go to them. And by the way, Asheville is American Association State Highway Dept. It's official. They provide for certain variances. You have a very low speed road and 390 feet takes you almost to the intersection of ranger and you certainly can go in there. Have we looked at the parking areas behind KFC? Really are they ever filled? Why and that access going into KFC and out out that access going into KSC and out out is should never have been allowed there in the first place. Something can be worked out if you believe that you should move ahead with the ball field. And we move some of the parking out of the land and see if we can't work out some arrangement with the businesses right there adjacent because they have extra parking believe me. Now maybe it might cost something but what's the cost of building 52 parking spaces. I was pleased to learn this past week from equipment parked near the site that the city has apparently decided to undertake one important aspect of my concerns and questions by ordering an independent wetland inventory and survey. Now rather than later, the preliminary results may be revealed here tonight. I think we did hear some very preliminary. As I have stated in my previous correspondence, I believe that most citizens have stopped in a moment. With respect to whatever decision, if and only if, we know and understand the decisions will be made with the best independent studies, data information, and facts available. And that we are all invited to participate in those discussions leading to that decision. Now, it has been a very good job. And I congratulate you so far. But you still haven't addressed those questions. And I thank you very much for this opportunity. Other? Yes, please. My name is Hugh Conway and I live on succumbed lane in Mosby Woods. And I came here tonight to tell you why I think you do the marvelous job on this project. And I think the Council on the State of the Zerva Lot of Credit for this work. I've lived in Mosby Woods for over 30 years. This piece of property has been a time bomb for our community. It's been threatened with a case membership warehouse, and then they had a proposal for high density residential atliving. Miraculously, the city spent $6 million by 14 acres of land. And all the city asks is that they put a ball field on this property, which can be enjoyed by the whole city. It is not going to be a private preserve for certain members of the new bi communities. It's going to be used by everyone in this city. Everyone is going to get their, the value for their tax dollar. If this property is not developed. If it's vacant, it becomes a magnet for other uses that we may not want to have nearest living in Mosin Woods, Cambridge, Station, wherever. Land is precious, it's valuable. If it's sitting there idly, it's going to be picked up by somebody else. We may not have any control over that property is used. So I believe that all things given, this is an ideal use of this property and I think our community is lucky that we are going to be given it. Thank you. Once again for allowing us to speak to you on this topic. One thing before I get to my main point is I really still am not impressed with the traffic study that was handed out at the outreach. I think projecting traffic to 2010, which is two and a half years away is not sufficient. Also, I'm a little confused because the original proposal for two ball fields, there was an estimate of 600 cartridge per day. When we removed one ball field, I kind of divided by two and came to 300 car trips per day. And today on the screen, it said 38 car trips per day. I'm not sure where the math, how that math came to be, but I would like an explanation of that. At the end of the outreach meeting on May 31st, someone stated that one ball field was really not enough for Fairfax City, that what they really needed was six or seven more. Six or seven more ball fields for our small city. In the Fairfax fund days that I got in the mail a couple weeks ago, it states that we have ball fields at 17 locations and there are multiple fields at some of those locations. So I'm wondering if you have a master plan for ball fields, is there fact city a tree city or is it a ball field city? I understand that there has to be reciprocity between city and the county and though at times I've enjoyed the county's recreational facilities, I've never told the county how many to build and where to build them. I've never told the county how many to build and where to build them. I think the crux of the matter is that when we voted and paid with our taxes for that space, we were told it was open space. As Debbie said before, when she pressed yes and when I pressed yes, it made no mention of athletic fields. None at all. And especially to the average voter who walked into the booth and hadn't been keeping up with this, I would think they were quite taken by surprise to see that athletic fields were later introduced as a proposal for this property. So now you propose to forever, forever change the character of our neighborhood by developing this open space. And I wonder if we're falling into the same mistakes that Fairfax County makes by developing without planning, without planning roads or future traffic issues. So by developing this space, you're bringing trash to our neighborhood, noise and light pollution, additional traffic, maybe a stop sign on our only direct access to Fairfax Boulevard Stafford Drive, which has someone mentioned before, was never, never meant to absorb all of this additional activity. Finally, Mr. Mayor, I know that you like to make an nostalgic comparisons of Fairfax City to the fictional town of Mayberry. I've read that in the newspaper. Mr. Mayor and Council members, Mayberry never looked like this. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Mr. Mayor and Council members, Maybearing never looked like this. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Mr. Mayor and Council members, Maybearing never looked like this. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Mr. Mayor and Council members, Maybearing never I spent some night. Good evening there. Letter and City Council. My name is Sue Ellen Froden. I reside at 3219 out of SCART in the Cambridge station. Thank you for your time and patience. I'm really thank you for this time. I might be two years, four years, six years late on this. But I'm here. Your vote, whether to build a ball, feel and suffer the best property or leave it as open space in its natural state is important to me. It's very important to me. Soccer is very important to me. I love soccer. I love baseball. And like many people before me, this isn't a shoe, it's not a shoe. I don't want it to be a fight. I mean, it's ending up a fight, I guess. Anyway, it's a decision made by each of you that will affect so many people. As we all drive around Fairfax, do you look around and say to yourself, look at all the beautiful open space we have protected. And I know you have. I know you've fought in and we've paid taxes to protect the land. Or is it more like, wow, there's another acre wiped out as you see, a pile of trees piled up like dead carcasses and then stripped land underneath just can't wait to be paved and built upon. Please think about improving what we already have built upon. Do not wipe out another area of biodiversity and splendor. That's what I think Stafford West is. You may say we have plenty of open space. Do you not know? Have you not heard? We do not have enough open space. Fairfax County receives an F for air quality. The American Long Association found that Fairfax County has a 23rd worst ozone pollution in the nation. This means we are among the most polluted in the nation. Fairfax County had the worst ozone pollution in Virginia. We are in need of open space in its natural state. Okay, I'm a soccer player. I still am. I've lived in Fairfax a 34 years, I think. But anyway, I'm a soccer player. Still, I can prove it by telling you, I've planned to our fashion artists in both my feet. Asoar killings on my left leg, 10 devices in my shin. They tell me at NIH that this is AGE syndrome. And yes, the kids run circles around me. Although most of my kids that I work on are desperately trying to stay alive and cannot run too many circles, they have ewing sarcoma and severe combined immunodeficiencies for in the bubble. Let me assure you that these children are hoping and praying to live and breathe a healthy life even for one more year. And that's long. That's a long time. Not all kids play soccer, but all kids need clean air. So let's talk soccer. Okay. I want to pull out a yellow card of caution and ask that you please take a step back, listen and learn. I really want to pull out the red card. I know this is a takeaway club, but that's really red card I had. And ask you to vote to protect us by protecting Stafford West and its natural splendor. Although you say we have enough open space and fair facts is not enough and is not all identical. Daniels Ron is beautiful with trees surrounding the Creek side. That's really where I grew up. Stafford East is amazing with his mature trees, native flowers. This week the Indian pipes are coming up. I don't know if you know what those are. They're awesome. The Native Americans, so I think we're the only folks that really understood both land use and soccer, and they just kind of, they, they worked it out. Use these plants for inflamed eyes, which I might need tonight, either way the vote goes. Oh, and Bunions and Awards. Stafford West is quite unusual and it's biodiversity with grasses, brush and trees, you know all this. The flux of birds that come through it different times of years will be gone if you do not protect it. I mean the birds are amazing. Everything's amazing there. Most of the biodiversity will be gone if you do not leave it just B. And let it work for free. It's free. As a filter of pollution, a source for water conservation, cooling our streams, and the list is endless. And it is working for all of us. Mayor Letter, Council Member Cross, Council Member Greenfield, Council Member Lion, Council Member Rasmussen, Council Member Scott Stillwiththorne, Council Member Fees Winter. You must wonder why we care so much for these types of spaces. I care because I know, I care because I have heard, and I care because I have seen. Thank you for your time. Thank you very much. We have two coming down. We'll go this way first. Thank you. Dennis McNaughton, 3725, World War Circle, City of Fairfax, Good evening Mayor, and Councilman. Thank you. Yes, thank you. Thank you for providing our city this opportunity to create a new ball field for our youth at large. I know it will be taken away natural space from the immediate neighbors and animals that currently live in this space. It is a difficult decision you have to make tonight and I know it will not be an easy task for you. I am confident that the New Ball Field will be agreed on, but what I will be spending time on is the surface that you will be spending on money on. I oppose the use of plastic grass. The artificial surface feels about 10 to 20 degrees hotter than natural grass. I don't know what the manufacturer says, the increase is, but it's certainly a noticeable difference. Several weeks ago, our team played a 9-an game on the Mason Districts artificial surface on Columbia Pike. By half time, you could feel the temperature had increased a great deal and by the end of the game near 10-30, it was even hotter. The players cleats and feet were not warm but hot. Not to mention all those black rubber pellets and the socks and the cleats from the kids. And also not to mention that this material has to be replaced. I see that the proposed field is 70 yards by 110 yards. This field is an appropriate size for only certain age children, preferably 14 and 15 year old boys and maybe 13 year old boys. By certainly not for 12 year olds and 16 and above, the appropriate field for that would be in an area of 120 yards long for the older age group and a 50 by 100 or maybe 60 by 105 for the younger age groups. But again, thank you for this large size field. It does meet five rules. The minimum with being 50 yards wide, it's maximum is 90 yards wide, and it's minimum length is 100 yards long, it's maximum 130 yards. However, with artificial grass, as you know, will probably be very rarely closed, and it will have a lot of activity on it even during rain because it is artificial grass and the manufacturer commits this to take place you can play on whether it's rain or not. The natural grass surface does not get near as hot as artificial surface does. The grass near the grass has real earth beneath it, and there's nothing better than having your cleats dig into natural grass in earth over plastic and artificial grass. Yes, maybe a little bit more maintenance. However, with proper maintenance and a decent spring for system, natural grass is a much better surface to play the game of soccer home. I would think that would be the same for the cost and football and field hockey too. I've been a resident here since 1991 and started out coaching with FPYC in 1999 and have played at Green Acres, Dangle's Run, Van Dyke, 11 O notes, Mosby Woods, Cutter Park, Leneer, Fair Hill Draper, Oakmore, and Allen Provinces. All of National Grass Services and all good, good fields. Well, maybe not Draper and Leneer at times, but still okay. Provinces is a nice field, even with some dirt and and furrow goals, but still a great field with natural grass. The type of sprinkler system at Providence certainly does help even though it has been growing off at weird times like a half hour before game time. That could create that creates a problem. But still a great field and thank you for providing new side there although war was needed to cover a large part of the field. It's still a great field and I've done. I've done a lot of work that I've done. I've done a lot of work that I've done. I've done a lot of work that I've done. I've done a lot of work that I've done. I've done a lot of work that I've done. I've done a lot of work that I've done. I've done a lot of work that I've done. I've done a lot of work that I've done. I've the creation of the new field. Thank you. Thank you. Yes sir, first. Let me get a little longer. Morning Mayor, Council members and staff. I'm working already. No. Opposed. My name is Mark Mason. I was at 35, 71, Charlottesville, and I'm a resident of the city for 20 years. I'm also the father of three that enjoy the fields, the parks and trails of the city. I'm also the director of soccer for FPYC. I've been a coach for FPYC as well for a Spanish ball program as well as for the Fairfax only. So I use and enjoy the fields and the parks and trails throughout the city. as well for its basketball program, as well as for the Fairfax Old League. So I use and enjoy the fields and the parks and the trails throughout the city. I want to thank this Council and staff who are working together along with the entire city of Fairfax community to come up with hopefully the final version of the proposal that the city can implement. For plan, we can begin our enjoyment of all the enhanced parks sooner rather than later. This proposal is a grand undertaking and it is the right decision to proceed with. It's gonna proceed with the field and the park development at Stafford and also the other following projects afterwards. The enhanced is a green acres, the field of Westmore, the enhancements are probably an up province elementary and enhancement of the field of the Drake Park, or Drake or Droughts. I support the field development, as well as the trails and the playground that staffered which will only take up five acres of the 23 acre site. The project that staffer will be an integral part of the city's parks and recreation and the entire city community not to mention the athletic community. The development that staffered will be similar to the development done to province park an unused park with no true community feel or amenities or use was transformed into a vibrant part of the city's park recreation and again the community itself. Stafford development will be very similar situation where a vibrant and useful community resource will be created for the benefit and enjoyment of the entire city community. This is the right decision to make and it makes sense for our children and the adults in the community as a whole. The overall plan as a whole is the right decision to be made tonight, as will also provide much needed fields for FBYC, which serves our children both the young and the old and the community. We have an opportunity to provide one additional field, although all the facts and number support that we have to need for several more rectangle and diamond fields. F-P-Y-C is just approved adding field hockey to its list of sports. So we have another opportunity for younger ladies of the city to play another sport, which also unfortunately can piece for rectangular space with the current sports offer to our F-P-Y-C here in the city. The need for field is great and we need to press on for more fields. The early turf and existing fields does not solve the field issue, as some have argued, and unless all the fields are lighted, which I don't think is going to happen. Due to the need for more fields, we can increase the use of some of the fields with lights. I will take one exception with the plan that concerns the lights. With new lighting advancements, the old version of large towering bright lights is a thing of the past and should not be what you envision. Just look at what we can look at the computer was only 10 years ago and prepared a now or the improvements in the turf field technology only seven years ago and it was just asked what turf over top of concrete. Progress has been made for these types of situations. The motor lights are completely different and it can be used without disturbance that many might feel well covered lights. In addition, the time and cost for the lights can as now will be the time and cost for lights as now as it will be cost prohibitive once the field is in place. The lights can be limited on time basis to say 8 o'clock on week nights so that the players and the parents can get home of school night and maybe 9 30 or 10 a weekends. It does not mean the lights will be on every night. But the opportunity user will be available to help alleviate the crowds and the competition for fields mainly during the fall and spring seasons. The sooner we can get the fields the better for all participants FPYC is a city centralized club for soccer and other sports. The city residents have the options to play with other clubs in the area, but none have a relationship with the city as FPYC does. In order to keep these city residents from going elsewhere, we need better facilities which include work taking their fields. This internal pay dividends to the city is this will provide the opportunity for more revenue for city businesses as well as tax income for the city. And all will lead a better recognition by nearby county residents, not just Fairfax, but also Arlington, now as the Andrew Prince William and Loudon of all the city amenities that we have. We currently have the best services overall and for your budget anywhere around the region. And this will just add to the highest level of services. The development is never easy. And the Council has made great strides in the past and made the right decisions in proceeding with the head of this project. Just as the city did in 1982 for Draper Park and again in 2003 for province park. Those decisions all changed the nature of those areas for the benefit of those areas and the entire Fairfax City community. Again, the right decision in 2007, specifically tonight, should be made to vote for the development of the Stafford and the other aspects of the Sovereign Plan. The right decision for this entire community, a vote to develop the five acres of this track with a field and leave the remaining 18 acres so that all the residents will benefit. Thank you, pretty time. Thank you. There's a lady standing in the back of the room and I don't see her now, had her hand up to she, she left okay. I guess, sir, could you please? Yes. My name is Ed Acker. I'm a resident at 9734 Ranger Road in Fairfax City, Cambridge Station. I want to congratulate the board on doing a grand job of finally reducing the footprint of the proposed development down to one-ball field and being sensitive to the environmental disaster that the first proposal really was, recognizing the deal and the buffer and the need to protect the residential areas that are immediately affected by this development. I think it's come a long way. I have a number of serious reservations with it. I question the parking requirement because it's,, if my experience is apparent of three kids at that play high school sports, that when parents come to games, very often there's two cars in every family. One family is coming from home and somebody's coming from work to see the kids play. And I don't see this amount of parking being adequate if you have like 15 or 18 kids on either side of a team and you have two teams or one team kind of finishing this game and other team leading do the math. I think the numbers are off here for this 52 fields and I think Tom need to hit the nail on the head instead of trying to increase the parking space, use parking that's right there next door and get some kind of use on our property to try to get it done. The traffic situation was spoken about in great detail. Just one thing I want to add to it, I come home from Washington and I kind of hit Route 50 and Stafford Drive around 630 in the evening. And I always see four or five cars making a left turn from Eastbound Route 50, onto Stafford Drive. They're either coming into Stafford Drive to go the rest of the way, or they're making that immediate turn into the KFC world. And I'm trying to envision the safety problem that would happen when you get five or six more cars with people coming to a soccer game lining up in there and they're going to be stacked up into the high speed lane of 50. There's just not enough stack base there, especially with the kind of three minute and 25 second light interval that you have there. It's a serious accident, where it needs to happen. I think you need to look at that very seriously and look at the access into this site is really designed for a lot of traffic coming in at a concentrated period of time. It's not dribbling in on an average kind of thing. It's all coming at peak times and it's leading at peak times and it's crossing over itself. And it's not a good scene. I think this is an inappropriate use of the site. I think you have to do too much work, too much. There's too much stuff that has to be done to make it happen. And I think you're destroying a beautiful, natural habitat and wildlife preserve that could be developed as such preserve that could be developed as such that could be developed as an educational tool for all the children of Fairfax City, all from elementary school, on up through the college level. And we have people that, you know, people that spoke and written to us about the interest they have in developing it as a teaching laboratory. It would be a phenomenal benefit to all the citizens of Fairfax City. It's not just about an indie year. We want something to happen with this side. I prefer to have this developed so that people feel safe walking through the air on trails, riding their bikes and so forth. And that, that eyes on would kind of keep it, keep it as a much more safe atmosphere, but keep it as a natural atmosphere. The fact that we're taking, you know, this, this is a rather huge bite out of a failing, netting down, narrowing part of the, of the site. And, you know, it may not seem much mathematically when you say, well, it's only five acres out of 23 acres. Well, of course, 23 acres is not part of that, it's across the road. It's really five acres out of nine. The point is, the animals don't know that ratio. The animals, this destroys a habitat. Let me take this kind of a big bite at it. That wonderful little girl that spoke about playing soccer also mentioned that she's in the Girl Scouts. I want to make it very clear that organized sports is not the only character building activity that we have in this world. We have other things like the scouting movement, like a whole bunch of other educational activities that every parent takes their kid out and tries to show them what the world looks like, whether it's in an organized fashion or not. And I kind of resent the implication that if you're not the sports, you're just not for mother hitting up or crying. That's a bunch of crap. Thank you very much. Hello, I'm Angela Robb at 4182 word call called Pfefferna. I had no intention of speaking tonight. Actually, I was home eating my dinner with my husband, and I was so moved by what was going on here this evening. I hopped in my car and drove over. As a person who worked to reduce the ball fields that were placed in Providence Park, I think the same plan should apply to the staff of property. I think less is more in this case, particularly because of what I'm watching develop on judicial drive in Ainstreet. I'm horrified. Absolutely horrified about what's going on there. If I would have known that that was going to happen to that standard trees, I would just book up a long time ago about that development. But we're going to lose our tree city use, say. I'm not proud of that Monica. But we're going to lose our tree city, you say. I'm not proud of that, Monica anymore, because we're not. We're not. We're absolutely not. And I moved to the city because of that. I didn't move to Loudoun County where my job was at the time. I didn't move anywhere else. I came to Fairbach City because of the fact the way the city was presented. So in your deliberations tonight that I don't want to extend any longer because you've been here while I'd like for you to consider a smaller plan for this park if anything goes into this park and I also want to let you know I'm very happy that you are going to appropriate the money for the face to project a problem as part and put those last few improvements in there. So thank you very much. Have good. Anybody else like to address the city council? I'm Elizabeth B and I reside in 9716 Ranger Road. And there's so much has been said that's compelling on both sides. I have copies to pass to Council. If I could do that, if that would help. And if you'll- Just get into the club, she'll- Absolutely. And if you'll just involve me, I have two things to read, and I'll try to be brief. As we have looked at this project and visited this project and considered all the options, I first of all, I'd like to say to the council to Honourable Mayor and Members of Council, I thank you for taking the outreach, the efforts that you've done. We wish it had been sooner rather than later. And I think you realize that it's, the heart of the matter is the interpretation of open space and how that has been redefined. That has caused a lot of discussion. I would like to say before I read my statement that there have been some uncomfortable outbursts of some of our meetings. And that in no way represents the majority of the citizens of Cambridge Station. We believe it is possible to have, you know, to agree to disagree, to agree to have a civilized conversation. So in that regard, I want you to know some of those comments do not in any way reflect the majority of the residents of Cambridge Station. I would like to do two things tonight. I feel'll indulge me, and I'll try to be brief. First of all, as we have looked at this property, and I will tell you, thank you very much for the six weeks, because when I first looked at the site plan of two fields, and then visited the property, and certainly seeing that in the pictures are worth a thousand words. I had no idea beyond the stands of trees. I knew that was important to say they can't be of trees. And I knew the riparian force was special. And I knew about the Akate Creek and stream stability projects and the importance of protecting land within the Chesapeake Bay. What I did not know was at the top of what's often referred to as a bowl or a scrub land but actually really existed there. So thank you. It has been an awakening to walk with people who study nature and know that area and passion about as well as we've called in people who have credentials to walk the property with us. And so that is the shift for a number of us in real lives realizing the habitat diversity that exists there and why it's important to say. So having said all that, I'd like to read a statement by Dr. Stanwin Schettler, and this is what he said. He is a botanist emeritus from the Smithsonian. He did not come on that behalf. He came as a private citizen, but someone who's an expert as a botanist. At the requested Dwayne Murphy, representing Friends of Acate Creek, and Elizabeth P, a director of the Homeowners Association of Cambridge Station and nearby community, I walked the staffer track on May 28th, 2007, accompanied by them and several others, to assess the property as a natural habitat. I'm a professional botanist, retired from the Smithsonian institution and a director of both the Virginia Native Plant Society and the Audubon Naturalist Society of Central Atlantic Atlantic States. I'm also a lifelong birder. The following statement represents my own personal views, however, in no way is to be construed as an official statement from any of these three organizations. But this is what he went on to say. Stafford West is a remarkable remnant of open space in the middle of the city. A tucked away surprise, begging to be explored and investigated. The topographic variety ranges from string bottom to upland to open basin with seasonly trap water forming one or more vinyl, vernal pools. The habitat diversity includes the stream itself, its repairing borders, the slugs with mature forest, and in the basins of the south, secondary scrubland with thickets of shrubs and small trees, interspersed with openings with specialized wetlands. In the second growth scrub land forms an invaluable transitional edge and buffer to the forest, pushing back the perimeter of human activity and is in itself a rich habitat for plants and animals. It is allied with bird-live and butterfly activity which when we visited, bird-lifed activity when we visited it is undoubtedly a welcome refuge for many species of birds in migration that seldom if ever are found in mature forest. Indeed, as would be expected, we encountered much more bird activity in the second growth of the forest, and our short visit, two box turtles, were spotted. This is a declining species that needs all the protection it can get, and is symbolic of the predicament of many species, especially in the urban setting. The forest and the edge are complementary habitats here as elsewhere, each with its own importance, and they cannot be traded. In the forest we heard the welcome calls of the Arcadian fly catcher, a typical denocent of force. It is a well-known principle of ecology that graduated edges or echeltones greatly increased biological diversity. These all-important edges have been disappearing from our landscapes, especially in and near urban areas at an alarming rate, and going with them are plants and animals that inhabit them. Research has shown that one of the greatest enemies of biodiversity is habitat fragmentation, breaking continuous habitat into bits and pieces by various means. For many species, the original species do not provide the critical mass of habitat necessary for survival. The Vernal Pools of this habitat need year-round investigation. It is likely that some species of salamanders and frogs depend on at least the most obvious of the Vernal Pools here to complete their life cycles in early spring. The wetlands, though small, have an intriguing mix of hedges, sedges, bull rushes, rushes, and other wetland species in them, and likewise, beg in investigation. One of the flowering plants here that they are appeared on Quick Study to be an uncommon, rag-wort species limited to certain wetlands. People who look upon scrublands, waste land, don't know the riches of scrublands. It's our duty to learn about them and teach future generations to cherish them as pieces, places of extraordinary biological activity and vital edges and buffers to protect our forest. The Stafford West's second growth probably nurtures and protects if not as much, if not more diversity than the adjacent forest, but in any event, each is crucial to the long time integrity of the other. So much of the green mantle of our region has been destroyed by the March of development that pocket habitats, such a staff of West, are all the habitat that is left in our urban environment. Where assemblances of the original native floor and phonic can still survive, these little green reservoirs provide the last remaining refuges for the plants in the wildlife in the city. Saving a mosaic of these green spaces throughout the urban landscape, especially as nodes of safety along the streams or islands of second-growth edges that form change the refuge in safe passage, is crucial to the very survival of the plant and animal species. This is true not only for resident animal species, but especially for the creative migrant birds and spring and fall. The people who dwell in the city also need these quiet places of respite, contemplation and learning. In the end, learn would hope that the decision for land use here will be based on what is best for the environment and not on who can muster the largest forces. The integrity of the habitat, including both the nature forest and the secondary scrub land, should be the paramount consideration. If the environment wins, and the long, so does ever, and the long run, so does everyone. With proper oversight and maintenance, the staff are west in its entirety, along with staff at ease, would make a wonderful outdoor laboratory for high school and college students. There is much that can be learned here about the natural world. Just the school's neat playing fields, they also need outdoor laboratories. If our coming generations are to become environmentally and ecologically literary, to be sure this grubland portion of the land is not without its challenges. Typical habitats everywhere today is not pristine but invaded by a number of aggressive non-native plants, especially woody plants, in some measure of cutback and control is necessary. Also, second growth is always on the march toward more mature growth, and with some effort from time to time will be needed to maintain second growth in wetland areas, get the open character and biodiversity of the Southern portion or to be perpetuated. The student's scouts and other community groups could help with this and in the process learn important lessons about invasive and ecological succession. Thank you for letting me read this because he could not be here. I had another statement to make. I'm gonna have to ask you to write. I'm gonna submit it to the record for the record. And just let you know that we did talk to the university and science teachers at the high school and the middle school. And they're intrigued and interested in studying this as a nature center and lab. So we ask you to take that into consideration. And thank you very much for your time. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank I'm Tom Stabilio, 10231 to come to Lane by living Mosby Woods. And before I get started, I just wanted to make a couple of quick clarifications and comments that I heard tonight. Just regarding the traffic flow in and out of the parking lot at the proposed field. The games will last about an hour and the games will be scheduled every 90 minutes. So that should take care or at least help with some of the traffic congestion that some folks were concerned about. I also commend and agree with those that think we should turf all the available fields here in the city. I agree, but that still doesn't adequately address the shortages we have. It's really not an either or but above. One of the things that I thought of regarding the pollution, I'd ask people to please consider the pollution not created by those most-webred residents whose kids will ride their bikes to the ball field at Stafford Park for practice, or the emissions not created because mosby was parents are driving less than a mile versus across town. Also, staff should be commended for redoing and redoing and redoing this plan to minimize the tree loss. As I understand it, there will now be six trees with trunk sizes greater than 12 inches, several of which are already damaged to be taken out. Well done. At the outreach meeting a week before last, I may have implied or stated in my comments that those opposed to the part didn't care about children. That's not what I meant to say, and I apologize about children. That's not what I meant to say and I apologize to my neighbors for doing so. I'm certain they all care about children. Regarding this park, I'd like to repeat two points that others have stated over the last several weeks and even tonight to counsel. A friend Brian McDermott said that after listening to arguments pro and con, he asked himself what use will serve the greater good, what use will provide benefits to the largest number of people. Clearly the proposed park with trails of playground in a ball field will reach more people than a nature preserve. I will carry that argument a step further and say we can have both on this track, five acres of park land and 18 acres for a sheltered nature reserve. At the outreach meeting and tonight, my friend Huconway reminded us all that this land zone for industrial use was once slated for a paste membership club much like Costco. Later it was slated for townhouses. He warned us that unless something like a recreational park would have been built here, that future councils may see fit to sell this property. He provided concrete examples in other communities. As the mayor stated, this property was, as the mayor stated at the outreach meeting, this property was purchased specifically for the purpose of building two ball fields. If we don't move forward, I think he's arguing it becomes a real possibility. A friend of mine recently told me that sometimes I act as if kids will die I think he was arguing it becomes a real possibility. A friend of mine recently told me that sometimes I act as if kids will die if you don't build more fields. That would be a catastrophe if every kid didn't play a sport. I think some of my neighbors in Cambridge station get the same impression from my demeanor. That's why it's so important that you look around the room. There used to be a bunch of kids in here, now they're at home in bed, but the point is I am not the face of FPYC. Those kids are. And the parents. The vast majority of which live in Fairfax City. Despite how the press portrays soccer moms and stage dads, few of these parents are trying to raise the next Beckham, pay lane, paint man, and John Riggins are God forbid Roger Stallback. Sports is not a life or death thing for them. But for those parents and children who do choose sports, they all want the same thing, the best, most enjoyable sports experience possible. That one includes safe, playable fields that are not overcrowded. That's all. Being able to practice two nights a week versus one with two teams per field versus four and games on Saturday only would be great. That seems reasonable to me. Adding one new field won't get us all the way there but it's a step in the right direction and one that I think we should take. After the outreach meaning, I spoke with several of my neighbors who are real nature enthusiasts, many of which are here tonight. Pretty nice people actually. They feel strongly that kids should have the opportunity to explore nature at Stafford West. I feel strongly that the kids deserve a safe, playable, uncrowded field at Stafford West. I feel strongly that the kids deserve a safe, playable, uncrowded field at Stafford West. I believe the park land proposal in front of you now, which is specifically the kind of proposal that I voted for to have my taxes increased for, accomplishes both. 18 acres of 18 acres from my nature enthusiast friends and five acres of active recreational area for those who choose to use it. Thanks very much. Yes, sir. My name is Jonathan Thomas. I live at one, oh two, seven. Most people is dried. Let's see. Well, I'm very much of mispeelance about all of this. It looks to me like you put a tremendous amount of work into this and you test what might be the best sort of compromise available, buying a whole lot of details. It seems like, well, I mean, what happens with these compromises is, of course, I guess there just isn't enough to go around and we try to spread the pain of people losing different amounts. I try to imagine what could happen if we could work out something that's not so much accomplished, but a way to get everybody what they want. And I could imagine like a small nature preserve either there or somewhere nearby in the center and a chill network that's connected through here. That would get the ecology type people satisfied. And then I imagine on the other side, oh, a whole lot more soccer fields. Because after all, this club increased 7% in one year and adding one one soccer field will increase the number of soccer fields by 4% It's not not even not even breaking even next year they're going if they if they increased by another 7% next year they're going to need two more soccer fields and It reminds me a little bit of a computer game I saw once where you're going along playing the adventure game and you come across a little plant that talks to you and it says water, water. And so you give it some water and then the next time you come back and there's this little tree there and the tree is saying water, water. And so you give it some water. And the next time you come back, there's a great big tree that's blocking your way. And it's saying water, water! Well, there just is not very much open space in the city. And I think maybe we can convert pretty much all of our open space to soccer fields and we still wouldn't have enough. And so I want to think to do good for our soccer players would need to find a way to persuade to maybe work out some sort of a compromise with the county and do something for them to get them to make more soccer fields. I'm not sure what it would be. I remember in the town I went to college, I think there, if the city there had told the county, If you build a soccer field for us, then we promise we're not going to an exit for the next 30 years. The county would have probably wanted to put a string of soccer fields on wall to wall around the city. So I don't know what could work, but if you could find some way to compromise with the, so some way to provide something to the county so that they will grow more stock and fields, they have, I think, they have more space. That's as close as I can imagine to a win-win situation here. You may have done as well as you can as a compromise. And I know it's a whole lot of work and delaying to more work is hard. And next year I think you're going to have this same problem again building two more stockings. So I thank you. Thank you. Anybody else in the audience like to address the city council? Yes, sir. Anybody else in the audience take the address to City Council? Yes, sir. If you would like to give the microphone, thank you. My name is Christopher Carter, I live in 10510, Earlhamstreet. I'm in the county and I just, I know I'm not in the city, so I don't directly affected by this. But I am affected by it. I keep hearing well. He should talk to the county to get more fields. He should talk to the county to get more fields. I have coaches manual from, okay, I thought I'm last fall on the coastal manual from the spring. The number of fields in the county that we have permits for went up by I think three or four. The number of fields in the city that we have permits for went down by, I don't know, two or three, something like that. The county is stepping up. They're increasing the number of fields, but the total number of fields we have is staying the same. So I just wanted to say, you know, the county is stepping up and doing what they can. And they're sharing their limited resources between F-E-Y-C, BRY-C, Centritium Association, all the other associations in the county, and also trying to help out the city, because the city has restricted land and restricted resources. So that's really a lot I wanted to say. Thank you. Anybody else in the audience, I'll now close the public hearing. We'll pass it in hand to the council. Mr Mayor. This way. I moved to the city council approved the request to the city of Fairfax by Robert Sisson City Manager for a special use permit to permit government use public park in the I-1 industrial district, the property known as 1--10120 Fairfax Boulevard, AKS effort property, and further identified, S-taxment parcel 57-4-02-001A, subject to the following conditions. One development of the proposed park facility that includes athletic fields, playground, parking lot, a connecting trail, an accessory building, and a ground-mounted sign. Shelby General conformed with special use permit plat, prepared by William G. Gordon, Associate Stated May, 2007, and incorporating the Concept 7E plan in option 2, a set fourth in the staff report. 2, the applicant shall ensure that joining us from the athletic field is directed towards Fairfax Boulevard consistent with the approved special use permit plat. 3, the applicant shall ensure that the organized sports activity, our schedule to minimize the impact of traffic existing on a site in four time-stated, timed state of the art lights that will be no later than 8 p.m. on weeknights and 9 p.m. on weekends. Thank you. Moved by Mrs. Warner, seconded by Mrs. Claus discussion. Mr. Reiner. Mr. Mayor. Mr. Mayor. Listening to all of the testimonies on both sides over several meetings and several occurrences. What Mr. Sibelius said just not all that long ago was that there are 23 acres and four of them really will be designated for this athletic site. If math serves me, that means 80% of the site of East and West is going to be left in native state. So I look at this as a win-win that that 80% can be used by those who want to look at education and open space. The number, another issue with the amount that is being invested in the quality of the fields that will be put in, not lighting the area, I believe, is irresponsible. And number two, the trails must be linked. We are a small city. We need to connect to our system that's already being established. Trail's day was just the beginning of what was beginning of this month. And I've taken it to ride my bike to all the activities that the council is invited to on weekends. And it would be nice to have this part of that system. We are going to have a lot of building just outside our limits at Vienna. If people were encouraged to ride their bike to the Metro, that would cut down on some of this traffic. It became an issue. Being able to ride bikes to this park, both to enjoy the nature of it and athletic. Part of it is very important that we are a small city. We need to be connected by these trails. We are not a direct democracy. We are a representative democracy. Let us not fail the majority this evening by yielding to a few. This is greater than any of our personal goals. This park will ultimately affect hundreds for many, many years. Future generations will not remember our names. This park will speak for us and for itself. Let us do our very best tonight and vote yes. Thank you. Mr. Murad, I'd like to at this point. If I could, just a question. I'm just a question. Do you want to speak since you seconded it? Okay, please. Thank you. This issue has been the subject of a passionate debate for many weeks now, and there are the best of good intentions on both sides of the argument. This is not a black and white issue, it is truly shades of gray. I want to assure you, I was asked the question today. There are special interests that have been swaying or attempting to sway council on this and I can truthfully say that is not the case. Nor is there any one individual on this council who has need this signature issue for them. This is an effort that we've all undertaken with a great deal of study, a great deal of listening, reading, I can't think that there have been very many issues in my service on council that require this kind of concentrated effort. And I think all of you for that because you have researched, you have been inventive, you have been created in your thinking about this property. But ultimately the decision as to what is best for the staffer property, I'm down to what is best for the city as a whole. Stafford is a city asset. How best can we use this asset for the benefit of all the citizens of the city? Young and old men and women, with the least infusion to the natural setting in wildlife. And I'm convinced that the one field option with the restroom, the playground, the parking is the right balance. I also believe that it is best to maximize asked that by including the lighting to this field. I believe that the lighting that is available to us today can be very unattrusive and I don't think it will be. And I feel very confident that it would not be an intrusion to your neighborhoods. This park will be a geographic source of delight for many of our citizens, whether they be soccer players, grandparents and grandchildren, or the wildlife that will exist in that park on the acreage that it remains undeveloped. I urge my colleagues to vote yes on this issue. So, Mr. Mayor, I'd like to, if this is a general offer, I'll go up in amendment. I'd like to move to strike the line from the proposed, but name motion if I may. I'll second that, Mr. Mayor. Okay, it's moved. I'm Mr. Silverthorn. Seconded by Mr. Erasmus and discussion. Mr. Mayor. I said regrettably because I had initially thought that lighting made great sense, but I think in the spirit of compromise and the discussions that we've been having over the last many months. And in some cases, even longer than that, although we'll get to the discussion of the main motion here in the moment. The fact remains that the lighting is a very, very sore subject in the larger community. And I believe that there is flexibility in this plan moving forward for a future council to make that decision based on community consensus and community input over a number of years. And I think a comfort level that may develop, the weather doesn't make sense and I think if nothing else really raises unnecessarily, a significant solar point in the community. So I hope that the Georgia Council can support slightly minimum, supporting them in a minute. Thank you. Okay, we're now debating the amendment, obviously. Other discussion. Okay, we'll call the question on the amendment, which is to strike the lights. We'll go by roll call. Mrs. Coss. No. Mr. Greenfield. Yes. Mr. Westminster. Aye. Mr. Secretary. Aye. Mr. Lien. Aye. Mr. Winner. No. Okay, so now the main motion stands as red with the exception of lights are not included in the motion. Mr. Restmusson, I have two or three additional conditions I'd like to propose. The first one being, I think the number 4 now, use the field, shall be limited to 9 a.m. to 8 p.m. on the dissadtery and 10 a.m. to 5 p.m. on Sundays. Let's see if we can get us. Let's do each one if it's okay to see if we can't get a second. Is there a second? Second. It's been moved by Mr. Westmus and seconded by Mr. Greenfield, Mr. Westmus. Thank you, Mr. Ring. These are the times that are proposed in the staff report and I think are reasonable. but I think that for the protection of the people who live in the nearby areas, it would be good to spell this out in the approval process as we have done it other time. So I would urge my colleagues to accept the given. Any other discussion? Let's just see if they can go by just a voice vote on this. All in favor of the motion. Signify by voting aye. Aye. Opposed? No. It passed by a vote of five to one with Mrs. Winger opposing it and that is now part of the main motion. Mr. Wesson. And then five, the city shall first determine that accessing the property directly from Fairfax Boulevard is not feasible before constructing a Stafford-Gyde access. Second. It's been moved by Mr. Atmos and Seconded by Mr. Seventh. Thank you, Mr. Rear. A lot of concern has been expressed by a number of people about the intercession at Stafford and Fairfax Boulevard. And as one who probably uses that 3, 4, 5, 6 times a day, I can tell you it's a troubled intercession. And while I know the inflow and outflow from there is not going to be all on the hour, certainly scheduling games is going to put a lot of traffic on an intersection. The other thing we don't realize is that the access to KFC is a very troubled access because it's so steep that you can't get in there quickly. And so that intersection is going to be troubled by the addition of this traffic. Now, hopefully if all things work out that may not be a problem, but I would suggest that we ask the staff at looking at whether he can feasibly use the easement, if we need to negotiate with the owners a new easement, that we try to establish a new easement directly off of Fairfax Boulevard, which may also then in the end enable us to reach an agreement with the businesses there for overflow parking, which I know the mayor has mentioned in this indication, which may be necessary sometime down the line. So I think this has both the advantage of giving us a better access to the field and also the possibility of overflow parking. Mr. Smith. And then for the record, just for clarification, this is a first look and feasibility of it. It is not in any way going to substitute should this not be feasible. The current plan is in the stands. Correct. Got it. Yes, sir. And I assume the main easement as we've talked many times would be that easement that exists now within the property line between the CES, CVS, and the Outback. I mean, obviously we've had staff looking to that prior too, but what this would direct us to, I believe, the spirit is that you open up the dosiasis of the Randars, which we have not done. Why has been dismissed up until now? So I think everybody understands the spirit of it. Mr. Mayor, what might also suggest is going south on staffer, so going towards the full of hard to have a do not block the intersection, not the intersection, but the entrance, the entrance in and out. Well, if I could, since we have a specific motion on the floor, let's debate that. That's what we can add. So the motion and the spirit without the exact verb which is to drug staff to investigate the feasibility of using the easement that now exists between the CDS and the outback or somewhere in there and open up dialogue with the owners to see where that places. Mayor, that should not should this motion, the main motion pass, that should not be a delay mechanism on terms of construction and so forth on the rest of the project. This is a separate track. I think that's the understanding of that. Good. I'll point out the surest in the record. All right. If we can, if there are any more discussion, let's vote on that amendment, all in favor of the motion signified by the voting aye. Aye. Opposed? And that passed unanimously, so that now will be part of the main motion. Mr. Restman, I think I have one more. Okay. Six. Exits from the site. She'll be limited to right turns only if staffer, if the staffer drive access is used. What a massive question I know. And let's now you're going to insist on a second first. Is there a second for a discussion purposes? The purposes of discussion would thank you. I will try to give you. There is no such thing. However, the former Mary's died. I will not die. I will not die. Well, we would have put it on the back burner, but I will. I will. I can further move it. Okay. Is it, can I accept my answer? The only question is, is the issue of those most wood residents, obviously, lit. It seems like an issue that will unnecessarily complicate their lives, but then, again, I could look with it. It just seems a bit restrictive. Well, I, because there's nowhere, I don't, I, it's not a cut-through. My only point is it's not a cut-through or today, and debating this, this motion and cinnamon. It's not a cut-through. People aren't going to, unless they just don't know better, and debating this motion and cinnamon. It's not a cut through. People aren't going to, unless they just don't know better, and they didn't realize it's not a cut through. It doesn't connect to 66 or anything else to get back into any highway network that they're going to have to leave the community. As someone who has a grandson who sometimes plays F.D. Y. C. Sontar, who could be going here, and if I drive there, will be forced to go on under root 50 and go around thing. I think it's still better for the community because as someone here said tonight the traffic on a Ranger road goes pretty fast and getting but because we're not just talking about the ball field I think once the ball field is built if it's built and if we access it from from staffer the hate-run building will dump most of its people on the Stafford to Ranger to plantation because getting out on Fairfax Boulevard Stafford is going to be very challenging. So I think that office building will likely use that now I made it back here in a year or two if I'm still sitting on this body asking that we we make them only left on Stafford Drive. But I think even though it's going to disadvantage some people who live in Cambridge Station or most of you would, going to that field, I think it's better for the community to put the traffic going right. You know, Mr. Rasmussen, without debating the merits of the amendment, now I had never heard the testimony until tonight about the people coming out of the commercial building and turning the lights of the void staff, but that to me is, there's no excuse where that should be allowed. And I don't know if one is a push to the other, but I personally, and maybe if you handle the Senate comments, by Council, I think we should investigate, not sure if we can, but if we can, eliminating right hand turns out of commercial building. Under any circumstances, regardless of this amendment, which would then show you up some of that for certainly the park uses of most of the commercial use, which shouldn't be using residential streets. Anyway, but is there any other discussion on the amendment? Any other discussion on the amendment? Okay, if not, I'll try to voice now. This may not work, but let me see. I'll try to voice now. Yes, I'd like to try to voice now. A voice vote. All in favor of the amendment, signify the voting aye. Okay, let's go by roll call. Mrs. Cross. No. Mr. Greenfield. Aye. Mr. Resma, aye. Mr. Greenfield. Aye. Mr. Resma. Aye. Mr. Senforthe. Aye. Mrs. Lyon. Aye. Mr. Werner. No. Okay, vote it, a pass by a vote of 4 to 2, Mrs. Winner, Mrs. Cross, and opposition. So that is now part of the main motion. General Allomis, the rest must and any other? That's all. Okay, other comments, discussions before we call the main question. Mr. Clerk, do you want to general comments now? Please. Okay. Now it's this late, I don't plan to believe it is too long, but there are a few things I would like to at least get on the record and say, and first of all, let me just thank the many people on both sides of this issue who have worked very hard over the last several months to make their case. I very much appreciate it. I know it looks like we are up here and even in the community distracted by a lot of other things, but I am sure you, it distracted by a lot of other things. But I'm sure you, it's not a matter of keeping count of someone's set of emails or phone calls. We actually do agree each of these emails and listen to people. Some of them, as was also alluded to, have been quite gracious and nice to to read and to speak to people about this issue. Others have been a little more challenging to listen to and talk with folks as you can imagine. And I don't normally talk this way, but I'm gonna say it, I haven't said a number of years, but as the initiator of the Open Space Initiative back in year 2000, I think it's important that I at least speak to some of the issues focused on the Open Space issue. I found an email and I found it, God love emails because they never disappear, which is a good thing and a bad thing. I found an email that I sent Tuesday, no, this says, I'm sorry, this is today Tuesday, but it was also sent back in November of 2000, dealing with the open space, but if I say the open space advisor referendum this day must be wrong. But it deals with, yeah, no, it's correct, I'm sorry. I don't know if you have any questions. I don't know if you have any questions. I don't know if you have any questions. I don't know if you have any questions. I don't know if you have any questions. I don't know if you have any questions. I don't know if you have any questions. I don't know if you have any questions. I don't know if you have any questions. I people in the community, but let me just share with you what it meant to me. This is something I never hid. This is something I put in writing. This is something I've talked to over and over and over from this bias or the previous bias in the other building for years, for months, excuse me, in a year's sense. I'm not going to read the whole email because it's pretty long, but basically I'm happy to send it on anybody that would like to see the what I said back in near 2000. But it talks about what a great place it is to live and raise families to do fair facts but what's missing. And I said, if we are going to continue to make the city of Fairfax a great place to live, we need to preserve a little open space we have left. We need more ball fields and parks for our kids to play in. We need more trails for kids of all ages to hike and bike in, and we can't do it without your help. This decision is in your hands as city voters. I urge you to vote yes and advisory referendum. Then I go on to say please contact me. This email list went out to about 500 city residents when you think about couples or as well as single, but couples you're probably thinking about 800 folks, 800 voters in a city where we often get two or three thousand people voting in a given election. My general feeling is that people are going to read into this, what they want to read into this. I will tell you as someone who pushed this and sponsored this and talked about this from this diast, I always believe that open space encompassed all green space. It encompassed ball fields and encompassed trails and encompassed nature of parts, which we're going to have plenty of in terms of this open space referendum. There certainly is no predecessor even on that, but I don't feel, and I stand by this strongly, that we ever tried to pull the wool over anyone's eyes. We built a coalition, a very strong coalition, to get this passed by the voters in year 2000. And the bottom line is, when you look at this proposal, as it stands tonight, as was spoken to, we're talking about a few acres of a very large parcel that is still going to be preserved, but a few of those acres are going to be reserved for active recreation, not passive recreation, which again was always part of the vision that I had and I hope and I believe was shared by at the time the majority of the City Council. I hope that we can put this behind us, but I will tell you that I feel very, very strongly that this is the right decision for the city. And that ultimately, I think the neighbors are going to be proud of what the city does in terms of all fields and open space in this community. I remain convinced that the voters are the right thing in year 2000, and I believe that this will bear out over the course of the next few years as we see the existing open space that is for nature and preservation in a natural state as well as that open space which is used for more active recreation. So I urge my colleagues to go, yes tonight. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Thank you. Mr. Restwister. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. A few general comments as Mr. Silverbone said that I'll try to keep it brief also. It turned out that the idea of both fields on the Stafford property was a very controversial item for the communities that surround it. And I guess that's understandable, because some people wanted to have more playing fields, and there's certainly a need for more playing fields, and some people wanted to preserve it just the way it was and that's a valid position too. There is, as Mrs. Cross said, no right or wrong or lack of white position here. It's all gray. And that's why it makes it difficult to resolve. Initially in 2001, when the Most New Woods Community Association said that it would accept ball fields on this property. It was at the time when it was put to have 175 townhouses on that property. And so that seemed like a reasonable alternative. I think at the time no one thought of coming forth of the idea of two ball fields with lights. And so that's what got some people concerned. And then a year ago, the three-sided association proposed what turns out to be the plan that we're almost voting on tonight. One field, no lights, they would have preferred not having artificial turf because of increasing the playing times. But it comes very close to what we've have here tonight. And so it seems to me that we've played out a very difficult and contentious argument over a year or a year and a half. But in the end, we've come down to what most people consider a pretty good position. Not everybody gets everything they want, and certainly a lot of us will be very unhappy. But in the end, that's probably life. You won't exactly get what we want. Very often. The thing that bothers me most tonight is the $2.5 million price tag. When I see that we could artificial turf, two possibly three of the current fields that we have and extend their usage 30 to 50 percent. I think that's probably a better expenditure of money. But I understand the desire of organized sports to have more fields. And so I don't know whether that's a trade-off that could be made. Thank you. Thank you, other comments? Ms could be made. Thank you. Thank you, other comments? Ms. Leyen? Thank you. You know, after being on council for almost five years now, there are only been a few of these issues that have fitted neighbor against neighbor. And I have found this to be that I have lost sleep over making a decision, lights, snow lights, keep preserving the green space. I want green space. I love green space. I voted yes for green space. I also voted yes for ball fields. I believe the children do need to have ball fields. So as my colleges said earlier, we've all tried to balance this act and tried to be good to all of you. And in my mind, we've all tried to balance this act and tried to be good to all of you. And in my mind, we've done that. We have five acres that's for our children. Then we have another 18 that's for our children and for you all to enjoy also walking and doing trails and connecting the trails. So in my mind, I want to thank the council for putting in as much time as they have and for being good stewards of the city. But the staff working as hard as they have for Mr. McCarty, you are actually the baptism by fire for you. And for all the citizens here tonight and people that have left emails, that have called, that have given me letters, I really thank all of you for all your hard work. And I plan to vote yes for this fall field. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Thank you. Mr. Grief field. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Thank you. Mr. Greenfield. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. You truly are the envy of the City of Fairfax with 23 acres out in front of your community. Respective communities, whether you have a ball field here or not, people envy how much open space you have around your community. So I applaud you for what you have in coming out for all of you on both sides of a very complex issue. I can tell you I've set up here for quite a while now and have been a number of difficult issues that we have dealt with for schools to two schools, Farcaw, and other issues, spending money to upgrade Fairfax High School and City Linear controversial in many ways, but this one has certainly turned out, I think, what has been some of the most complex issues to consider as we look at this. But as I've sat here tonight, I've been looking at my screen, and on the screen, it's not up here, is the Concept 7E, which shows the ball field and all of the screen space that will be preserved. Now, when I was growing up in the city, I played two sports. I was allowed to play one in the spring and one in the fall, and I had to pick. I wasn't good, but honestly, to get either one. It was soccer in the spring and basketball in the fall and probably excelled better in scouting and then moved on to tennis when I got into high school. I never had to compete for ball fields, but quite frankly, there were fewer kids playing back then as there are today. There were fewer sports back then as there are today when you look at field hockey and you look at lacrosse and you look at soccer in the spring, soccer in the fall, and indoor soccer in the winter. Taking the time to kind of go around north of Virginia to get a sense of what the needs are for playing fields, not just here in the city of Fairfax, but in the county as well. And it's amazing. We all suffer with this problem. But as we look at this, I hope you truly believe that we have listened. If we weren't, as one gentleman said tonight, we'd have a pace warehouse. If we weren't listening, we'd have townhomes on one side and condos on the other of Stafford. If we weren't listening, we'd have townhomes on one side and condos on the other of Stafford. If we weren't listening, we'd have two fields. We'd have lights. We'd have concession stands. If we weren't listening, we would have a hundred parking places, so on and so on and so on. This has been an issue that we have continued to grapple over 20 times to refine and refine and refine and refine and refine. And tonight, I hope what is, while some will disagree, I hope we can agree that we have tried to work to listen to the residents of the entire city, but in particular your communities because you do live right behind this park. And if we weren't sensitive to your concerns, we wouldn't have gone with a concept that has one field with ADA play equipment, the first in the City of Fairfax. I mean, this is a new part. I first started on the Parking Earth Creation Advisory Board, and we've been talking about ball fields in the need for ball fields since the late 1980s. And yes, we've done analysis, we've hired consultants, we have that first analysis done in the shortage of playing fields added to the comprehensive plan. When the next revision to the comprehensive plan came in the late 1990s, the Parks and Recreation Advisory Board at that time also hired a consultant and looked at the shortage of playing fields. So we have continued to try to make sure that our data is correct before we have figured out what we need to do as a city as a whole. correct before we have figured out what we need to do as a city as a whole. So I hope that as we walk away from here tonight, we can remember that the City of Fairfax is a great place to live. We have more trees here today than we did when the city was incorporated back in 1961. And when you walk down the street or you're in the grocery store, I hope you'll speak to your neighbor and you'll say, you know, we'll live to fight another battle. But in the end, I hope that just as when we dealt with the elementary schools, people were very concerned about that neighborhood school and going from four schools to two schools. And now you don't hear anyone, well, maybe one or two, that are opposed to those two brand new elementary schools. And I hope that as we move forward here this evening, that at some point here in the near future, we'll be able to walk by this part and say, you know, it's not as bad as I thought it was going to be. Thank you very much for your consideration. I think, Mr. Greenfield, for those of you who watch, certainly City Council, you realize how this process works. And mayors rarely get a chance to vote, only in the case of the pie and only tonight if I count it head right, I'm not going to get that opportunity to vote, but I still have an opportunity to speak and I'm going to take advantage of it just for a quick second. You know, I think the thing that I'm most proud of is the only reason we're sitting here tonight. The only reason we've even had the opportunity over the last several weeks to dialogue as a community and as neighbors and as residents of the City of Therfax, because the council back in 2002 made a very, very bold step to purchase this property, to take it off the tax rolls, to purchase it for $6 million, $23 acres, which was not an easy vote at that point in time. And I realize this won't carry a lot of weight with some folks, but I believe at that time there was a commitment that they was not a slam down. It was a very difficult issue. And I believe the reason we're here tonight is because there was a dialogue and discussion with both community associations, which we've talked about a minute times, to purchase this 23 acres of property into allow five or so acres out of the misguised four acres to be used for a ball field or a couple of ball fields. Now, on a personal note, one of the things that's always a point of pride, but always very challenging to me is for those of you who have followed the dialogue, realized in many occasions over the last several weeks, four people have said they want to school with me and that kind of personalized on the issue and I know all four of those people to be passionate about the city of Fairfax just like I am and one in the same streets that grew up in the same parks, they went to the same schools because I did two or one side of this issue and two or the other side of the issue. And that's very difficult for me, because they're passionate about both sides of that issue. What's really interesting to me, and I know I speak on behalf of many of my dialogue, is we're passionate on both sides of this issue. It's the reason we're here tonight. We're passionate because I believe for this community to move forward, we have to reach out to the next generation and the youth of the City of Fairfax. And that's always challenging. These are not easy issues. We're passionate about open space. This Council and the formal Council purchased over 45 acres, spent $12 million, was criticized almost every step to the way for doubling the expenditures and all the debates and issues that went along with it on both sides of this issue. If we're up to me and I know if we're up to many of my colleagues, we'd go right back to the citizens tomorrow and ask if we can double that expenditure. Because I do agree once you lose property and the lose open space, so precious little there isn't a city of Fairfax. It is gone forever. And so that's why this issue has been so difficult for so many people. I'm exhausted. I know my colleagues are exhausted. I know you all are exhausted. We spent nine hours sitting up here, not including PJs produced, just listening and debating and discussing just in the last three or four weeks, not adding up all the hours on this topic we spent since 2001. I think that the core of all this has been, how do you strike that balance? How do you strike the balance in terms of needs for fields, the desire this community, which I believe is as strong today as it's ever been for open space, the cost considerations, which are time of staggering when you work through these various issues, and certainly all the community input. I hope at the end of the day, whether we can agree to disagree or wherever anybody is on that, this Council will be known on this particular issue for doing the best it possibly could, and a very difficult issue to find that balance. One field, no lights, no expansionist effort, all self-contained parking, lighting over on draper, artificial field over on draper, moving in the ball field, the baseball field, which was part of this original plan over the cloud and installments tree, and 4 acres out of 2030 that will be used for this particular project, which means all the rest of that space, the 19 acres, will be left in the open space and green space, or how that's defined by all of it. So I want to just say I applaud every one of you. We have heard from literally dozens and dozens and dozens. The first public hearing two weeks ago, we had 73 people. I lost count tonight, but it's probably very close to an equal number. We had 100 plus folks that showed up to our outreach meeting last week. And that's what this process is all about. I applaud my colleagues up here. This is tough. Now this is a tough way to make a living as a politician and a small town when issues like this are so passionate on both sides of it, but it's also what makes this especially very, very special place to live and to bring up families and to retire and do all the things that all of us have done and will continue to do for many years. So with that, what I would like to do is now call the question all in favor of the motion, signified by vote and aye. Aye. Opposed? And it passes unanimously. Thank you all for coming. Go ahead. All right. I'm with the City Council, Dr. Attach, resolution to approve the request of the City of Fairfax by Robert Sisson Agents for the special exception to City Code Chapter 110 to allow modification of the interior and perimeter parking lot landscape to allow existing vegetation and lieu of required transitional landscape buffer, adjacent residential district into a lemonade, the required transitional buffer between C2 and I1 zoning restricts, districts on the premises known as 10090-101202.0 for a fixed polar guard, a.k.a. Stafford property and further identified as as tax map parcel 57-4-02-001A. Second. Moved by Ms. Winter, second by Mrs. Lyon. All in favor, the motion is signified by the voting aye. All right. The vote and a passionate answer. I'm a little torn at this point in time whether we should take a quick break to allow those to stretch or plow on. We just finished a gen item number 7a of five more public hearings tonight. 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I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the Okay, do we have a? Okay. We're going to go ahead and if I could we'll call the meeting back to order. Without objection what I'd like to do is take item number 7D which is a public hearing council action or corporation resolution. We amount of 8 million to 200,000 to fund the completion of the linear middle school capital improvement project and move that up to our next item. And with that, I would like to invite Representative whoever is going to give the presentation to jump in. Who's doing this staff report? Is it school board or is it or nobody? Okay, if it's no, okay, please. I'm sorry, Mr. Mayor. We're going, jumping to 70. I've been doing, I have staff report. But Mr. Jack Russell is here to answer any questions that the council and Mayor me have. This relates to an appropriation resolution of $8.2 million for the completion of the Lennair Middle School project. There was a short call in the project of an estimated $11.4 million at the time the contract was awarded. We had with under Council direction, we fined $10 million, $8.2 for the together portion of the linear middle school shortfall of $1.8 million for improvements to Germantown Road. It has been determined that the shortfall has been reduced to the $8.2 million which we have financed and it has been determined that entire $8.2 million will be needed to complete the project. And this is the corporation we have only done the financing. Any questions to staff? This is Cross. Can you tell me what the status of the Continuity funds for the high school program or construction? Well, they have taken the high school project as much further along and they have taken into consideration savings from that project and allocated those funds to the linear middle school project to keep that. And this is why we waited so long to actually appropriate the funding for the linear middle school project. We want to find out exactly how much money was needed, how much savings we would have in the linear project and also the Fairfax High School project. And so we would only wanted to appropriate the money that we felt was absolutely necessary. And that's why we waited to this stage, actually. I wasn't aware that that had been factored into the numbers. Yes, yes. Thank you. Any other questions to staff? Harry, does this been properly advertised? Okay. Well, now open up the public hearing. Nobody has previously signed up to address the council. And anybody like to address the City Council on this item? Harry, now we'll close the public hearing on a Tana motion. Mr. Mayor. Mrs. Winter. I move to adoption appropriation resolution in the amount of 8,200,000 to fund the completion of the linear middle school capital approval project. Second. So moved by Mr. Winter, seconded by Mr. Silverthorn, any discussion? I want to say over the motion, sitting five, there's one in five. Opposed and a passion, I'll say that. now brings us back to gen I number 7B which is a public hearing and council action on a request for a special use permit to allow dancing and entertainment in a restaurant, lane, ballroom and lounge in the C2 retail commercial and all town districts, historic districts on the premises known as 10418 Main Street and 3979 Chamber of Roads. This has been properly advertised. Staff report, please. Thank the numbers of council, Council, on the map, as the measures red, the opposition for this, especially this permit for the rain, the West route, now the involving, so I'll tell them if it's a little brief, getting the application request, especially this permit, and the CT and the CT, we have this, with the old town fairfacts that still go over the area. The sites located on Chamber's Road, Chamber's on the Main Street, the black outlines the site and it's surrounded by other similar uses. And this is an area of the site that's star is the property in question. The application request itself is for Monday, Wednesday, 2 hours, 6 to 10, and Thursday, it's between 6 p.m. to 1 p.m. to have a dancing, and if the time is an answer, you use 2 to the restaurant that's currently operating on, on the site. The dancing area will be 377 square feet, and that includes the DJ booth that's associated with the music they're proposing. The often pros are to add the dancing until there is, again, as ancillary, dancing. There was a dancing lesson request in this rental application. That has been amended and taken out of the application. No longer seeking the dancing lessons, in fact. The proposal for entamence for the distocking and the music only in the outcast state of dance will not perform. Now the floor plan is asking for that is proposed before you just wait in 88 seat main dining room at 24 seat lounge and two in the seat bowl man for 12312 seats. Just recently on 6.7 the applicant, though it's not part of this request, but I don't bring it forward to the council because the applicant may be discussing this, is to up those numbers to 104 seat So, the 6.7 floor planning is not then evaluated by staff. Brief glance, but not evaluated correct. Okay, so your recommendation is based on the 1011. 200 seat ballroom banquet facility that the October 11, 2006 plan. Correct. Okay. Thank you. And analysis events, statement, in front at the table, we find that the application is not inconsistent with the land use recommendations that are compliant and it's not in the form as proposed as a restaurant with an answer to the advancements at the table is not expected to be or contributed to traffic congestion, as proposed will have an adverse impact on adjacent properties with other than other, you know, some of other similar uses. It is located more in turn to feed away from nearby residents on its own property. And thus not it's seen the maximum permitted gross for earlier answer events on the table, which is 25% deal about, we're over 3.5%. And the, and the submitted proposal. Now, staff is recommending the applicant, and the council denied the applicant's request because the current operation the rest of the restaurant has failed to meet the criteria of 110-36 and pertaining to the impact on Jason Poppies. And that is, the applicant has demonstrated that in effect the dancing and entertainment would not be the principal use of not the restaurant as they have been offered. So this is all the need for law enforcement, has been increasing the presence of all-town, substantially, and has the has an impact on adjacent properties as well. Just to backtrack and to the outstanding of recommendation, the application of Visualist in mid-September, September 18th, that had to be denied or sent back, so to speak, as it wasn't fully complete. It was actually in December of October 11th, which would be accepted for review, and we'd like to know that the rust on portion needs to be the main focus and again the dancing of them is ansley to use. And then we provide a written comments on the semisix regarding that. On January 26th of 2007, the outfit that received a non-residential use permit which was issued allowed to buy right rust on and not to be new. Again, on February 1st, staff have lined them through a letter. And in consequence of that, or in the course of that, I should say on March 8th and March 23rd, in the end of April, which is not what's long here, the zoning market will never see complaints and we went to inspect the fund at the old violation of the operating rest on without a special displeasure for advancement of the team? And that's what the recommendation is based on, and I hope you'll have some questions for Council. Questions that Mr. Greenfield, thank you, Mr. Mayor. Regarding your analysis, you talked about the number of parking spaces that are required for the use of both a restaurant as well as for the dancing that are in the use. Where in anything that's been submitted to you, do we have anything that shows how many, kind of an agreement that they have for parking to be provided offside? The condition is, if you go to the conditions at the end, that counsel would say what to approve this, they would have to provide an agreement for outside spaces. Before they would get there, even if the treaty were approved, they would have to provide that to the city before we would go ahead and issue it. So, for just a restaurant, which I know that's been a number of uses on this property both subdivided and as a whole. How many spaces are required for just the rest of the county? And the number of the trees that the trees will be 90. 90. And again, those would have to be provided offsite with written agreements before you would issue the permits. Correct. Again, that's part of the permits. Correct. Again, that's a potent condition. What have been your experiences as you have gone downtown and done different reviews of this site? What have you observed? That the essentially the pedometer used has been dancing and entertainment. There is a bar and a less openunt is open, but the use as a presenting inspecting and zoning inspecting it out several times. Final, we're operating as a rust grunt. You know, solely and then the dancing and theme of his dance line. And top of all that, it couldn't be permitted. I'm so excited. I'm saying this back. Even if we were operating correctly, if there was the death and the death and the death and the death and the death and the death and the death and the death and the death and the death and the death and the death and the death and the death and the death and the death and the death and the death and the death and the death and the death and the death and the death and the death and the death and the death and the death and the death public hearing, I'll light the applicant to address the council. Councillor O'Connor, I would like to thank the council staff. My name is Mark VCO. I am the council for the applicant, and I thank you for the opportunity to be before you this evening. This applicant and the patient itself has been clothing through the city for some time, and it's been deferred a number of times. And I will be very candid that I appreciated the deferrals from my own right, because I was somewhat confused as to some of the underlying zoning issues that I would like to touch upon tonight. Very briefly, I think the strategy of city council have 200 people speak before I had the opportunity to do so and worry me out. It was very successful. So I will guide these brief as possible. Number one, when I first undertook the difficult task at the time of reviewing this application on behalf of the applicant, there were a number of problems that were very readily perceivable both from a public relations standpoint, from a compliant standpoint, from a used standpoint. But much like an onion, as you peel through it, much of it started to make sense and very candidly, not all that made sense until approximately a week or two ago. The initial shock of having an operational or grain come to a city like Fairfax, I'm sure, was tremendous as the establishment was very successful when it first held them. Having hundreds upon hundreds upon hundreds of people come into the establishment. And quite frankly, I don't think that type of traffic flow in terms of a consumer participation in a restaurant or nightclub or bar, any type of hospitality facility has been seen in this city for some time. And I think I'd like to very, very quickly address some of those issues as I know that just from a perspective of a council person, regardless of the DNA permit, there must be some concerns as to how this started and seemingly got out of control, but I think it's since rained back. First of all, allow me to bring to your attention that when they first opened and obtained what they believed to be all the necessary permits to operate the establishment, including an ABC permit, part of the application process for the ABC is obviously producing a business license. The license was obtained, the documentation necessary to operate were established. They did not obtain a business permit, but it was not an intentional act. It was an oversight, candidly, the ABC would not have given them the license to sell alcoholic beverages. They themselves missed it. I missed it when I reviewed the package. This is not too swayed, blamed or number of twenties involved before I became involved. I reviewed the fact that I myself missed it. That license has been obtained to the necessary fees and costs have been paid. The second issue is, staff is very candidly set forth. There is the dancing and entertainment violation cost. 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The third issue, which I quite frankly found most confusing myself, is having eaten at the establishment and found the food to be quite delicious. And I don't say that because on their council, to like many restaurants, they start out great. I'll have to give you an opinion a year from now to see if it's the same. But the notion that they were not operating as a restaurant was confusing to me, the notion that the primary use was out of a nightclub versus a restaurant was confusing to me, because I didn't understand how that determination was made given the nuances and the code. I now understand that nuance. I very briefly like to touch upon it as I address you, because candidly I think that will address many of the concerns that you all had regarding rain. Simply stated, the staff, and this report is rather elderly, and I'll address, of course, the new group and staff that were made reference to. Simply stated, and in very basic terms, as I, come to understand it. If in fact the establishment has 200 seats anywhere to place your body on, that would limit the amount of personnel that is permitted to be in the establishment to have an insularity to the underlying purpose that being the restaurant. Rain had in fact operated in violation because they had for a proactive at a number 250 seats, but 400 people in attendance. Therefore, they could not qualify as a restaurant because if somebody were much like musical chairs, my six-year-old daughter to say find a seat, 250 people would sit, and 150 people would be standing. That in and of itself may grain no longer irrescent. And that was the nuance that very, very candidly, despite all my years of education, I couldn't grab my hands around until musical chairs analogy was provided me. Rain has subsequently done a number of things to come into compliance. They have ordered the necessary cables and chairs to pull on the necessary square footage on the dance floor to become compliant as a restaurant, and they have obviously sought permission of this board for the D&E, I'm sorry, this council, which would reduce their occupancy. So for example, in tonight's package you have before you an application that requests a D&E based on 312 seats. What that means is there can only be 312 people in rain. So the initial concerns that the city had that 6, 7, 8, 900 people are going to be pouring out of this establishment at 1.30 a.m. Causing a police presence is now controlled by the fact that if there are only 312 seats, there can only be 312 people. The mistake the applicant made was believing that the restaurant was the restaurant on the lounge ballroom was just that. And those people standing at the bar, the bar schools were not present, could otherwise qualify as suitable customers. And this particular case, what you have, is a situation where staff very correctly points out that they requested a denial, or recommended a denial of the applicant because it was operating as a nightclub and not as a restaurant. And that simply as I now understood was a numbers game because we had more people than seats regardless of what food was sold, what alcohol beverages were sold. We could not qualify as a restaurant because the simple numbers dictated that there were more people than seats. Under the present scenario, if in fact the Council were to go deformatively for the applicants request, then the concerns that previously existed that there would be hundreds upon hundreds upon hundreds of kids, dwelling out of the establishment or adults or businessmen, would be limited to the number 312. Now, as staff will tell you, if we have request with 307, we would not require off-site parking because we would be in the parking zone, which would not require the 40 additional spots, the 90 spots. There is, and I'll address very briefly, the application of, sorry, the blueprint's addressing with larger numbers. There is an outdressed very briefly the application of, sorry, the blueprints addressing larger numbers. But in this particular case, if, in fact, the application as before you has approved the number of people that would take the nice range during the process of dancing and entertainment would be reduced from the 700, 600, 500 that has previously existed, that of 312. In and of itself, I believe, achieving the very thing the city wanted to do is have a more manageable number. So in a strange way, despite some of the reservations that some of you may have given the initial perception of the establishment, the very approval of the permit will effectually, the very desire of the climate will affect the very desire of controlling the clouds, maintaining the establishment, and very candidly getting it back in line as a restaurant. Rain has undertaken a number of affirmative steps recently, including changing the name from rain, lounge, and ballroom to rain, restaurant. They hosted a flunk bill prom this past week with several hundred children. It hosted a birthday party, they hosted bridal showers. They are undertaking significant efforts to reestablish it as a restaurant. The problem with initial success, as I'm sure many of you know, is it draws much desired and the time's undesired attention to your premises. There were learning curves, there were growth pains, but I think staff and everyone would agree that in recent months what we've heard about the establishment has been less and more favorable, more affirmative in their favor. It is not a situation of scoff laws who will try to operate illegally. It's a situation of misunderstandings which with some assistance have been cured. It's my fault. My fault very cannibly that the current blueprints that are referenced that was submitted in the request in seeing a 469 are not before this board, because they were provided me and I did not provide them to this council in time. There's no attempt by the applicant to submit an orange for review and then traded for an apple. The notion of the increased seating was very simple. The establishment is an excess of 10,000 square feet. The establishment has excessive costs. Much like many of the prior owners of businesses in that location, it's very hard to make the living operating a 10,000 square foot hospitality space underground in the city of Fairfax. There are not bright windows to look out in the parks. There's no wonderful decks to observable flowers. This is an essence on underground space. And the use that is currently designed by the owners in which they put substantial investment of time and money is presumably the best use. The reason I have requested an architectural drawing to increase the seating is candidly at the number of 312 in the summer months. We are hoping to travel lightly, increasing that to a maximum of 469 by a minute at a later date in order to make the numbers line up. This is not a situation of a temporary business where they try to come in. This is a situation where there's a long-term commitment, long-term lease, personal guarantees, and there is an effort to become a good citizen of a city of Fairfax. They have hired a cleaning crews to go through the community. They have provided tips training to their staff. They have undertaken to review the recommendations of staff to discuss the conditions that if you all are in fact to consider the D&E at the level of 312, there is a sample motion in your packet with approval conditions ranging everything from insurances such as revocation or department of their violations to operational limits and so forth. We are in agreement with the proposed restrictions and recommendations. We believe they give an opportunity. The next time you see the applicant before you will be a much more favorable situation. And very candidly, I prepared an extensive speech with extensive facts, but given the hour, as they say in the car business, I won't talk past the sale and simply be available to ask and answer any questions. Questions via. And answering questions questions be out Thank you very much. This is it This way I did go down I Think in March you were down and In the evening and the lines were quite long to get in If you are if the restaurant is only going to hold 300, are you anticipating another 300 lighting outside of your head? It's actually an excellent question, one that was raised earlier. One of the concerns that the applicant dealt with with the chief of police earlier was an essence crowd control. And one of the most critical elements of what we need to do is to educate our customer base through email and other correspondence that the limitations are going to be, in fact, reduced. The interesting thing to note is that if they were not seeking a dancing entertainment permit, then in fact the license of, sorry, the applicant could entertain crowds five, six, 700. The restrictions on the amount of folks that would come into the establishment are in fact on the sub-on to D&E permit. So for example, if we were to open as a sports board tomorrow and simply put in flat screen TVs, we'd be limited by the occupancy established by the final marshal in the city. It could have 650 or 700 people in it. We are aware that by asking for the D&E and the evenings in which the D&E would establish, we have to reduce our occupancy, reduce our visibility to the police and we've been cooperating with them. And establish a process by which the lines are building up. to see reduce our visibility to the police and we've been cooperating with them and establish a process by which the lines are building up. We will simply send them to other establishments. I did not want to mention this earlier very kindly as it was part of that two hour process, but we do have a letter and a package and I will simply provide this winter and I'll provide it to staff as I exit. It's a letter from the applicant signed by TQ Reynolds, have a bite, executive printing, Royal Gathatian, Victoria's Cakes and Signorant, establishing the fact that whatever difficulties they may have had with the applicant in its role stages, in existence, have since been resolved. There are members of bridges here tonight, and there were earlier members of some other hospitality establishments that much through attrition have faded away much like I wish I had. That are very supportive of rain because they have in fact absorbed much of the flow. So our process is, and we'll be happy to coordinate it in writing as we need to be that we establish a crop control mechanism. So two simple reasons. One is because there's obviously a concern of the city of excessive buildup. But secondly, from our perspective, if someone's waiting in line for two hours, ultimately never gets in our belief is they won't come back. So we need to clearly establish a parameter by which both the consumer and the city are pleased with our progress. My pleasure. Thank you, sir. Other questions, the app, give this a close. Would you call over one more time why it is that they had violation after violation after violation in Ignore? I'd be happy to, M. Much of it, and this is not to throw blame or lay a court and one, when the applicant first entered the premises, it had been used in a number of functions of ballroom, a concert hall, restaurants. They were under the belief that they could operate as the previous applicant monsoons had. If you look at the outpatient package prepared by staff, you'll notice that all of the previous occupants, in fact, had special use permits. Monsoons did not. So when they undertook the same effort as monsoons, they in essence from day one war in violation. And ultimately, when that accrued in snowball, they, without any great measure of putting myself in the back came to me and I myself was confused. So the fines were paid, they were initially not paid on my advice because candidly, I didn't know the impact of paying such fines in the fact that it's an admission of doing something that they were told they were doing wrong with them to understand why. But the very underlying basic issue is that when they were told they could operate as monsoons had they did just that. But as it turns out, I think staff will concur. Monsoons was in fact operating without the very permit that would have brought them before this council had the issue been raised. They are seeking to be in full compliance and that's why we're here today knowing it's a terribly wrong uphill struggle and knowing that our numbers are reduced. But I am assured that one of the greatest concerns the city had is crowds. And we are in essence following in our sword and saying we're going to reduce that number to show we can be compliant and seek out an amendment at a later date to 469 and with the announcement and I will proper fall of you to say that they had not obtained an ABC license. No. No, no. Generally, in order to obtain an ABC license, you have to show compliance with the requirements of a certificate of occupancy of health department permit, tax ID number, business license. So when they obtained the ABC license and I reviewed the file, I didn't catch the fact that there was no business license. In other words, under normal circumstances, the ABC would not have issued the license because the business license was missing. But in this particular case, they got the ABC license, understood them to be fully compliant, and then were informed that they did not have a business license and of course immediately obtained it. Now they clearly had an ABC license, I certainly want to create a belief that they were doing something else for them. Okay. At the time that you were at the citations did you call the city and say we're uncertain here as to how to become compliant? What do we need to do in my own area against I did not I had when we met with the city Subsequently and I was asked why the tickets were not paid and I'd be happy to get a copy I informed the persons Parties with whom I was meeting that upon upon the citations they say, if you do not pay them, it will subsequently be issued and the matters could be addressed. It was my belief and at that time desire that upon the issuance of a court date, the matters would be addressed. I was not aware that there would become such a sensitive issue and at that point we need it. We paid them. I don't have any further questions. Any other questions in the applicant? If not, thank you very much. This is a public hearing. On his previous, he signed up to address the council with anybody like to address the city council in this matter. Very none. We'll close the public hearing. I'll entertain a motion. very nine we'll close the public hearing now and we're taking motion anybody want I mean, when you get emotional, so we can discuss it or debate it or make sure what happens. Mr. Mayor. Ms. Cross. The purposes of discussion I will move that the City Council approve the request of a adult folk Garcia and put the very owners for especially use permit pursuant to section 110-72-A-1 to permit dancing and entertainment in the C2 retail commercial and all-town. Here facts historic overlay districts on the premises known as 10418 Mean Street and further identified as tax map parcel, 174-2101 with the following conditions. One the applicant shall ensure that the dancing and entertainment activities are operated The number of cases that are in the case of the case of the case of the case of the case of the case of the case of the case of the case of the case of the case of the case of the case of the special use permit. To the applicant, she'll ensure that the proposed 312 seat restaurant use with a 357 square foot area for dancing and entertainment, she'll provide 133 off-street parking spaces, poor N93 for the restaurant, and 40 for the dancing and entertainment in Perrin. Any increase in restaurant seating over 312 will require an amendment of this special use permit. In their three prior to commencement of the proposed dancing and their team use the applicant shall provide an agreement indicating 40 off-street parking places are available to its patrons or the applicant shall ensure the hours of operation for the dancing and entertainment co-incide with the hours of the restaurant as follows. Restaurant hours, 93 wins, the 11 a.m. to 10 p.m., Thursday through Saturday, 11 a.m. to 1.30 a.m., Sunday, 10 a.m. to 12 a.m. As in entertainment, Monday through Wednesday, 6 p.m., 10 p.m., Thursday through Saturday 6 p.m. through 1.30 a.m. by the applicant shown sure that dancing and entertainment activities are restricted to the designated three. Excuse me, should the designated 357 square foot area as part of the existing restaurant depicted on the proposed four plan? Number six, the special use permit is valid only for rain lounge and ballroom. Should that be amended to say restaurants since that is the new name? Is valid only for rain restaurant, owned and operated by Bedoufalk Garcia in Shelby, non-transferable. Number seven, the special use permit will expire one year from the date of approval and the applicant shall apply for renewal at least then it is prior to the expiration date. Number eight, the applicant shall comply with all applicable codes and laws of the city, state and federal government and shall not use the property for any use other than expressly permitted hearing. The motion is made as no second. It dies for a lack of a second. The retainer motion is to rest, Master. The motion is to be held for the title of the title of the title of the title of the title of the title of the title of the title of the title of the title of the title of the title of the title of the title of the title of the title of the title of the title of the title of the title of the title of the title of the title of the title of Section 110-782A1 to permit dancing and entertainment in the C2 detail commercial. Old town sheriff has historic overlay districts on the premises known as 10418 Main Street and further identified as tax map parcel 57-4-2-101. The reason stated in the staff report. Who made is their second? Okay, that is no second. Also. The motion is made by Mr. Restmuston, seconded by Mr. Deanville. Discussion. Mr. Restmuston. I think the reason stated in the staff report about the effect of the ANC and our entertainment and the failure to satisfy licensing and criminal requirements are a reason to justify action. Any other discussion? All in favor, the motion is signified by voting aye. Aye. Opposed? And a passed unanimously. That now brings us to agenda item number 7C at Public Hearing and Council Action and request a comment for a special use permit to allow financial institution to drive the facilities for a special use permit to allow for user development that will generate an estimate average daily traffic, volume and access of 700. A special use permit to allow any commercial or industrial use or development seeking for indicator access are set of 100. They especially use permits to allow any commercial or industry use or development seeking for your hicketer access from a local street. Which also provides access to residential areas, a special exception to the remainder of the reduction in the Frankard setback from 25 feet to 17 feet. And the C2 retail commercial on highway quarter, overlay district on the premises known as 1-109-830-128. Has this been properly outcast? Staff report, please. Honorable Mayor and City Council, good morning to you. Yes. Again, this is a special exception permit request by Commerce. Thank you. Application summary. Just going to be the abbreviated versions regarding how to work session. So again, for especially as permits to allow the finance institution to drive a facility in the C2 district. Become also used to have access to a local street that serves residential. And I use the generate the more than 700 vehicle trips and I record a full district. 700 vehicle trips in the highway corridor of the district. In the special exception is for the encouragement of eight feet into required 25 that set back on Fairfax Boulevard, which is along the service drive portion. It's from 25 to 17 feet. Subject site is on C2, also in the highway corridor of the district located at the corner of the Bevendrive Fairfax Boulevard. Surrounded by light, C2 parcels, there's an I2 I-2 across the street, across from Fairfax Boulevard. I can't believe it. In the subject site, cornered beavened dry Fairfax Boulevard, the Onesline illustrates the service drive along Fairfax Boulevard. And as you note, the Ones air will illustrate an area where the applicant is proposing to supplement the street trees and the medium. The existing service station, this was a question asked at the work session, what is the distance from the toll fee and to the primary one-story building from the copy line border on the service drive at 76 feet from the main service station building, 25 feet from the edge of the canopy. Here's a long during that the applicant supplied this week showing the paint structure to the south of the property facing the boulevard, assumption feet from the front property line. Two entrances into the site, one off the service drive, one off the bat and of course the one special use permit is because the access is to all of them. We'll have this proposed right now, where it was 27 parking spaces and 18 are required by the use. Two lanes, five through with appropriate stacking to the north portion of the use. Two lane drive through with appropriate stacking to the north portion of the site. Trees that do act as a buff of the cleanly stacking and the property lines of the north. Again, here's the canopy, which is 21 feet by 33 feet. The applicant will be installing the, do not enter and it stops line on this end of the canopy to avoid the vehicle or traffic. And it's on this end of the canopy to avoid the poor traffic and to interest the vehicle motion. Yes, ma'am. The the arrow that I'm kind of putting out with this arrow, well streets where it stops sign and a do not enter sign will be installed along the, the western portion, the exit of the drive through to prevent conflicts with vehicles and actually the drive through vehicles and having the site 11 drive. And again, here are the two instances, one off of the service drive. 25 foot required, landscape separation between the property line and the parking is supplied. Two ring rings that were supplied by the applicant. So the first is more of a panorama, which shows a view across the boulevard. I look down at the bottom and this is if you were standing at the corner, kind of the corner of the property, we'll see you're looking back toward the northeast at the building we bought them on this. And you can see the proposed drive through with the do not in our sign. Here are the details of the drive through for the proposal. And staff's conclusion is that the application is generally consistent with the loan use recommendations of the comprehensive plan that limits the net use space with the building space and along the frontage promotes the parking along the side and rear of the property. of home structures and uses is not expected to create a contributed traffic congestion, is not expected to have any adverse impact on adjacent properties. We're not resultant of development, which is disproportionate to the surrounding land uses and size of bulk. We're not adversely affected any nearby residential areas and we're not overburdening the community facilities. Staff recommendation is approval with the conditions that the applicant ensure that the development of the property is a substantial requirement to the special use special such-and-plan. And that the applicant ensure that prior to site plan approval, fundamental plan is submitted to the zoning administrator, limiting foot candles and property lines 0.5. And with that staff, taking questions. Thank you. Thank you. Question. In exiting the property onto the boulevard going east. Is there enough clearance to make a left hand turn out of the bank onto the boulevard? Left hand out of this interest of if you can see my arrow and all it oh Yes coming down and making a left toward the car dealership. Yes, there is there is Okay Would be kind of tight Oh you want you want to the service road, right? Yes, ma'am. Okay. Okay. Thank you. Mr. Mayor. The special exception to reduce the front setback from 25 feet to 17 feet, does that affect the right away perfeited law of art anyway? I must say, under current CIP projects, it does not divide if they will not cut through this property. And along with the draft version of the Boulevard Master Plan, actually caused for a building separation of 156 feet between building phases. Of course, there's a cemetery across the street from here. So from center line, it will require 78 feet, which is exactly what's provided here. Good, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. My understanding is that there are four street trees that are currently on the property, on the, on the, Eastland there, etc. Yes, ma'am. There are four here, one, two, three, and four. And the applicant's illustration here doesn't show, but there are three, four existing here and two supplemental trees going on the main. The matter of the street lights, street lamps, the decorative street lamps that we're trying to use along the boulevard. Yeah, somewhere in here I read they didn't tell that they could do those because there wasn't the proper conduit or something. Yes, ma'am. There's a complication. The property line goes to the exit of the curb along the service drive, a perfect boulevard. The property line goes to the edge of the curb along the service drive, a perfect school of art, and the strip between the sidewalk and the curb is not wide enough. Behind the sidewalk is a drainage. But would those lights not be out on this island? Anyway, not necessarily. Most of them are placed more along the property lines, they would have a conflict with the existing trees, and they're not necessarily in the island now. If it's council's desire to see, glogue-widen, along the island, so there's stuff on something stuff. So, what you're saying here is the property owner has, does not have any ownership of this island between the excess road and the bullock line. Is that right? Right. So it's public rightfully right at the curve long. The sidewalks actually and the amusement line through the property distribution. So anywhere along this route, these are going to have to be city, this is a city project along, if we were to put lights along that island. All right. Okay. Thank you very much. This is a public area. I think I asked, but is this been properly advertised? Can I ask? Invite the applicant to address the council? Mr. Mayor, I never thought the council might have expressed hate with the Dean Kennedy and Kornman and I represent the applicant and I'm giving you the abbreviated response that we did have the work session. I think we answered most questions you had at that point and we responded to staff otherwise. One thing I was instructed to do was to try to reach out to the community to the Holmes Association. I did send a letter out and we had that no response to that. I had at least three or four phone calls to the chairman of the Holmes Association. Again, there's just no response whatsoever. And I think staff will bear me out on that too. I think staff attempt to do the Home Susciation without success. If you have any questions, let me try to answer it, but the staff reports it. Any questions, the applicant? Hearing none, thank you. Thank you very much. Nobody has previously signed that, but anybody would like to address the City Council on this item. Hearing none, we'll close the public hearing out at Hand of Motion. Mr. Grinkel. I move that the City Council about the attached, this is for the special exception first. I move that the City Council about the attached resolution with conditions approving the request of Commerce Bank pursuant to City Code Section 110-7836 or a special exception to City Code Section 110-783, so paragraph A to allow a reduction of the required front yard setback from 25 feet to 17 feet long, perfect full of art at 11098, perfect full of art at 11098, perfect full of art, and more particularly described as tax map parcel 57-1-02-039C. Second. Moved by Mr. Greenfield, seconded by Mrs. Winner, any discussion? I'll prepare for the motion, signify by voting aye. Aye. Opposed and a pass, you can ask, but thank you very much. That now brings us to item. Sorry, there's a little discussion. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I move that the City Council for the requested Commerce Bank and by Lori K. Murphy, agent for a special use permit for pursuant to City Code Section 110-782A, so paragraph one to allow financial institution with right-wing facilities. In the C2 retail commercial district and pursuant to city code sections one, 10-874 B subparadural two and three. Any use or development that will generate an estimated average daily traffic volume and excess of 700 trips in the highway corridor. Overlay district is late for giving. And to allow me to be I'm having a hard time this whole the vehicular accident you guys stop it over there please And to allow vehicular access from a local street that also provides access to residential areas On the premises known as 11098 perfectable guard and more particularly describe this tax map, Parts 57-1, that's 02, that's 03-9, C, subject to the following development conditions. One, the applicant shall ensure that redevelopment of the property being substantial conformance with a special use permit slash special exception plan. And two, the applicant shall ensure that prior to site plan approval, a parametric plan is submitted for review and approval by the zoning administrator. The maximum elimination levels form all light sources shall not exceed 0.5 foot candles at the property line. In addition, lighting fixtures shall not cause direct glare or direct light beyond the building facade onto the neighboring property. Second. Is he familiar to say? Moved by Ms. Greenfield, second by Mrs. Ryan, any discussion? I'll have to have a motion. Ms. Greenfield. Just to apologize for my bumbling, my tongue here at the late hour, but I do want to welcome you to the city of Fairfax. Banks are certainly welcome because you provide nice bank taxes, which we appreciate. But more than that, I hope that Commerce Bank will, in fact, become a community bank for the residents and fairs' and for woods and even those over in Cobbdale, as they're able to go through the neighborhood without having to traverse on the perfect full of arts to be able to do the banking business. So welcome, we look forward to the ribbon cutting. Mr. Barr, this is so nice. I just wanted to add up to my welcome as well and we hope that you will be issuing a Mastercard for Debt of Crores and your Democrats. Thank you. Okay. Any other comments? Reductive ones, please. All in favor of the motion is signified by voting aye. Aye. Opposed? And I pass you down. Let's see. That now brings us to item number eight, which is items not requiring a public hearing, 8A, consideration of cooperative school agreement between the City of Fairfax and the City School Board. Staff, very brief, staff report. You're right. I'm taking five steps. Yes, Parks and Recreation of Ice Reuban, the school board, have met repeatedly over the two agreements in front of you tonight to solve into field agreement as well as the cooperative school use agreement. We've also included the FPU I've seen in our discussions and the changes I think reflect the maximum of these facility residents of these school facilities throughout the year and address a lot of our concerns to make sure that we have the proper use of the schools for recreational activities. The school scheduling staff over a different size school have also rated on this as well. There's one particular change in the document for the Stolnick and Field Agreement on Section 6. It's paragraph 2 instead of daily meetings, we want to adjust that to say regular maintenance. The school board, if approved tonight, will discuss this and approve the final agreement on July 2. Questions and staff. Mr. Greenfield. Motion. I'll get the intertermation, please. Move approval of the execution of a cooperative agreement for use of school. The soldiers between the city of Fairfax and the city of Fairfax school board. Second. Moved by Mr. Greenfield. Seconded by Mrs. Winner and your discussion. All in favor, the motion is signified by voting aye. Aye. Opposed to pass your animes, the items number 8B, consideration, Fairfax High School, Stonaco Field Agreement between the City of Fairfax and the City of Fairfax School Board. Mr. Mayor. Mr. Greenfield? Do I have a place? I don't think we need any more. Go ahead. We'll approve approval from the execution of the Dendom Age to the Cooperative Agreement. The use of school facilities in Dyle, use of Harold Stonaker Field at Fairfax High School Agreement between the City of Fairfax and the City of Fair School Board. Second. Move by Mr. Greenfield, seconded by Mrs. Wiener, any discussion? Mr. Mayor. Ms. Cost. I didn't get in here fast enough, but the rates that we're renting this facility at Seam, in the right of the low, are they? Are they actually- They're actually- They're actually rates that the county is going to implement and they're in line with the county rates. What a deal. Okay. All in favor, do we have a motion on board? Yes, I do. All in favor of the motion is signify by voting aye. Aye. Opposed, the passing and missing. Mr. Silver, the one was asked from the vote. Okay, items number 8c, introduction of appropriation resolution, an amount of 5.8 million to the development of ballfield at staff of property west. More property draper drive park green acres property, property park and property, elementary school staff support. Thank you, Mr. Mayor, members of Council. This item, which would normally be on the consent of is under items not requiring a public hearing because we wanted to present this after the SUV consideration for the staffer property. This relates to appropriating the money and this is just an introduction for the appropriation of the money for these various projects. Each of these projects has, I should say, the financing for these projects has been completed. And at this point, after, and at this point, we'd like to appropriate the money. We'd like to appropriate it at this time because we did do the financing in fiscal year, 0607, and we need to do the appropriations in fiscal year. These items also, even though it was not part of the financing initially, we would be able to include the Draper-Grod Park project in our appropriation in this part of the financing if the council does desire, so we do have a flexibility to add that project to these other projects. And as I said, we have already completed the financing. We do have the money in the bank at this time, and we just want to appropriate the funds for the development of the bills. Mr. Hatchkins, I don't think tonight this is just an introduction, it would be the appropriate time. But one of the things that's come up is part of a lot of the dialogue over the last several weeks was whether it would make more sense not to do the green acres portion of it because of the dirt situation and the overall cost versus doing an additional artificial field and light and draper. I don't think tonight I'm assuming tonight's not really under this item is the appropriate time to have that dialogue, but I'm assuming nothing we would be voting on, either through this introduction or the actual approval, would prohibit us from doing that if it was the will of the council. That is correct. We are appropriating for all the projects and there is the flexibility to allocate funds from one project to another. Okay. Any questions? One step further and personally I don't believe that we should include monies for doing something in green acres because the only reason we were going to improve green acres was because we were taking excess dirt and staffer when we were doing two fields over green acres now, but we're not doing that. You still have the significant cost of either raising the existing field or lowering it to be able to make something work. And so personally, I don't think we're going forward with additional lighting in other areas with additional artificial turf that it's needed to spend the additional money here and I would just prefer that we not do that. I think that's the savings of $750,000, $760 somewhere in that. Yeah, and I think the two issues and fairness of at least the community dialogue that I've heard of is just save the 700 or whatever it is and not do anything at Green Acres or take that 700,000 and use that to put a second artificial field with a light at draper instead of doing just the one, which I believe you could do for virtually. That's why I was suggesting we didn't have to have the date tonight because I don't think there's the net differences in significance. So we could still have that dialogue, but not at 1230 at night. And there's nothing, this is just simply an introduction as I understand it. This is an introduction. Correct. Okay. Any other questions? And again, this is just simply an introduction. Mr. Moore. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I moved to Wade that first reading and set the public hearings for June 26, 2007 for an appropriation resolution in the amount of 5,800,000 for the development of ball fields at Stafford property, Westmore property, Draper Drive Park, Green Acres. Winner's second and by Mrs. Cross. Any discussion? All in favor of the motion. Signify by voting aye. Aye. Opposed to pass an annum. See we now did item number nine, which are presentations by the public. And any item not on the agenda unless somebody would like to move that. Not hold this public hearing, but everybody is pretty this side up. I guess we'll open the public hearing since we don't have a motion Mr. Podel. With the first election of these three council women, this council's rules were immediately changed to ban pictures and posters except by developer applicants. Not long after a councilwoman crossed broke that rule, they'll revealed. Tonight, another speaker held up a newspaper and a magazine picture, still no revealed. Shame on you pro-abortion hypocrites for ascensioning on of my anti-abortion posters. Thank you, Mr. Adel. We're now close to public hearing. We'll move to agenda number 10, which are the approval of the April 24th, May 22nd. Second. Special of May 22nd, regular meeting. Move by Mr. Silverthorn, second by Mrs. Winder in the discussion. All in favor of the motion is signified by voting aye. Aye. Opposed at pass unanimously. We'll recess you abstaining on the second. Mr. Rasmussen, on the record show, staying on the May 22nd meetings, both special and regularly. So it actually passed by a vote of four to nothing with two abstentions. Okay. Work session two second work session. Now we have put on the agenda for the last meeting in July a public hearing on the NBTA regional taxes without going into detail at that staff to pass out prior to this the four work session the four working documents that were submitted to NBTA for consideration by the working groups the four working documents that were submitted to the NBTA for consideration by the working groups. There are seven taxes, and my colleagues are aware of that will be considered at the July 12th. Meeting of NBTA, the Granger's Tax, the Motor Vehicle Rental Tax, the Transignate Optimacy Tax, the Safety and Spection Feed, the Sales Tax, and Auto Repairs, the Regional Registration Feed and the Initial Vehicle Registration Feed,, all which were part of HB-30203 passed by the House and the Senate and signed by the Governor. The intent is to have a public hearing, which is similar to exercise being taken place all over the region. There will also be an MVTA public hearing in July of the 12th. I would just ask that my colleagues read through the documents. I will be asking the night of whatever it is, the 20th. So I shall. No, it's just going to be put on the public hearing toward the next meeting. Last minute, June 26th. June 26th. To allow for a public hearing that I'm going to be asking for direction from this council on how you, myself or Mr. Greenfield, as my alternate, should vote on the various things. So I would not suggest we open it up for dialogue and discussion unless somebody has a compelling question, but I would urge you to work with our staff who has all the information so that when we do have a public hearing, we can make them educated. Decision on what will be a very important landmark issue with that. If there are not any objections on how we can be in the regular meeting and we'll go into comments by Council, Mrs. Cross. Thank you, Smith. I would like to express on behalf of all of us the huge thank you to John Harold and his exemplary conduct of registrar duties over the past couple of years. And I want to compliment the city staff and disnation of earfax for the planners downtown really has rest up the downtown area. They look terrific. I also would like to urge council again to consider a retreat over a weekend to flush out the Fairfax full of our plan and makes some decisions on those to identify those items of agreement and initial discussions on those that may be over more controversial. Mr. Greenfield. Just real quickly Mr. Mayer, I real quickly, Mr. Mayor. I'm sure everyone will share with me and stemming our sympathies again to Annwood-Wolch-Sneth. He was a great chief of the city of Fairfax for a number of years. And we certainly will miss him as he continued to live here in the city. And so we extend our sympathies and best wishes to his name. Mr. S. Mouser. Nothing as he did. Mr. Seller. Mr. Mayor, thank you. A couple of items. First of all, and I had a dialogue offline with the City Manager, but I'd like to confirm the Finance Manager, the issue of competitive bidding for the process of moving forward with photo red light. I've had several either emails or letters. I don't know if other colleagues on the council have gotten them as well from people who are allowing to get in and for make sure the city has a competitive bidding process, which is the right thing to do anyway from my perspective. I just want to make sure that we're going to follow a process that opens it up to many different parties in this respect. I heard from the second one today, and I don't know if anybody else did, but it came to my. Maybe it was in the council package. Anyway, so I want to make sure of that. And then can I get some assurances, Mr. Assistant? I know you're talking offline, but I think the council is not in this well. That would certainly be our intent. The only variation that I would see that could potentially happen is if another jurisdiction competitively bit it and we wanted to ride that contract, which we have the authority to do that way each jurisdiction doesn't have to be kept. Council applies the balance. I'd like to get back to people I have in one case, but if something changes, I think it's really at least out that explanation. Okay. The other issue is, I just want to mention very quickly that Cox and movies under the moon are going to be scheduled for June 21st to the 25th. This was something that we suffered a bit with the weather last year. I hope the weather cooperates better this year, but we move this from from George Mason University into the city of Fairfax. I think this is a great office. It's a great family friendly kind of event. Encourage people to attend the community, of course, I'm sure midnight here, past the night, nobody's paying attention tonight, but I hope that with including the mayor, as you just said. That's what I don't pay attention to you talk either. The, and then the last issue, of course, is that I just like to extend my congratulations to those in neighboring jurisdictions who are pre-elected this evening. I understand that those elections took place and I'm getting buzzed. And several supervisors were wanting particular, or maybe it was sent back, although I'll be it by a very, very small margin. With that, I'm extremely glad before. This is mine. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I would like to extend my congratulations to a, Mrs. Winter tonight. She tomorrow evening she'll have her first graduate from Fairfax High School. And it is a very poignant time, and I wish your daughter much luck. And, and excuse me, it is expensive, much luck and success in her endeavor. So good luck to you tomorrow. Mrs. Winter. That's all. Mary Ellen is going to Mr. Silverthorn's alma mater. Yes, Redford. I would like to extend congratulations to all of the young people that are graduating from Fairfax High School tomorrow and wish them Godspeed and much success in their next adventure. Thank you. Thank you, Entertainment Motion, for a good move. Second. Mr. Greenfield, second by Mr. Silverthorn, all of the favor of the motion. Second by the voting aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Pass you down, sir. I'm going to go to the bathroom. I'm going to go to the bathroom. I'm going to go to the bathroom. I'm going to go to the bathroom. I'm going to go to the bathroom. I'm going to go to the bathroom. I'm going to go to the bathroom. I'm going to go to the bathroom. I'm going to go to the bathroom. I'm going to go to the bathroom. I'm going to go to the bathroom. I'm going going to be able to do it. I'm not going to be able to do it. I'm not going to be able to do it. I'm not going to be able to do it. 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