Hi everybody, I'm Councilman Dan Drummond and thank you for coming to the hot lane briefing and for those of you at home this briefing about the hot lane project is going to be online after tonight's streaming video and also the presentation that the representatives here will be given will also be online. Quickly, I want to thank those who are in the audience, especially our former Mayor John Mason, who is a transportation guru and is executive director of the New River, Janine Transportation Authority. And while we don't have much money with the Virginia Transportation Authority, we're simply appreciate him refunding all what we did have for. Tonight is a presentation on the hot lanes. For those of you who are more mayor, the hot lanes are known as high-toe lanes. They're going to be built on the Capitol Beltway and they will provide a lot of congestion relief for commuters around Northern Virginia. But more importantly, they're going to bring a lot of transit improvements and commuting improvements that we haven't seen on the Capitol about way before. And the question that I get a lot from people is why do a hotline briefing where it doesn't really affect the city of Fairfax? Well, the reality of it is it does. Majority of people who work around this region, who live in this city, they commute to Tyson's corner, they commute to Washington DC, and you're going to be impacted by the construction. Already you're probably seeing some of the capital beltway construction sites being set up. You're seeing trees getting taken down temporarily in some cases, in some cases not. But it's going to make improvements that you're going to really benefit from. And quite frankly, your children will benefit from. The construction is a necessary evil when it comes to getting congestion relief. One thing before I introduce the folks who are here is I want to know that the Governor of the Canadian Senate, especially today, announcing a national award for Virginia's Public Prior Partnership and Transportation was an honor given to the Virginia Department of Transportation, Secretary of Transportation, Deputy Secretary by the American Road Transportation Builders Association. The reason that's important is that this is a hot-range project is what's called a public private partnership. You have a lot of public funds, you have public funds, but you also have millions and millions and millions of dollars of private funds that are going into this project. So this is something that we as Virginians, especially living here in Northern Virginia, should be honored to receive because we're moving the Commonwealth forward. So now we're going to get a presentation from Steve Tatunic and he has the wonderful title which I actually thought which I could have, which is Mega Projects Communications Director. Not many projects, but Mega Projects. And actually, as I did, I'm known to see you for quite some time when I was a reporter. I used to cover them. And we looked at each other and said, we're still doing this stuff. But Steve's a great guy. He's going to give a great briefing. and please feel free to email me or Alex or SOSR who is our Transportation Director here in the city or City Manager Bob Siss with any questions that you might have. And obviously if you have questions related to the project, please email V. You can contact with V.Dot or other representatives from four in Transurban, which are the two private companies that are operating and building the hotline. So Steve I will turn it over to you. Thank you. Thank you very much. Of course I have the title but you have the salary so you know you have a choice to pick either one and you may have one. First of all thank you very much for the opportunity to appear here this evening to discuss the hotline's project. You know one of the mega projects. We call it mega projects because under the Federal Highway Administration, mega projects are a specific title to a group of projects or an individual projects that have many criteria to them. Price is one thing, about a billion and up. To the public interaction, the amount of public interaction regarding the work to be done, the impact to people, public, and also the complexity of the project in and of itself. So the real name Mega Project wasn't something just picked out of, you know, again, my days of the Army when you went on an operation, you hit a machine for the name of an operation, you had names. So Mega Projects does relate to a specific title of projects under which we have several going on in Northern Virginia, of which the hot lanes are one. Another one is the widening of 95 South from Fifthex County Parkway into Woodbridge to Route 123 and then back up North. So Fifthex County or I should say Northern Virginia. From the Pentagon, down to Woodbridge will be four lanes. Right now it's only three as you get to Newington. Springfield is a great project. It's done wonders. You go through there on a daily basis. None of that craziness and madness that was there at one time, backups in the morning, weaving and merging actions, unsafe situations, motorist incidents are completely down to almost non-existent. As a matter of fact, it's so good that we have to watch out on the speed because people are moving through there, you know, at great speeds. The problem is Southbound, it backs up when it goes from four to three lanes in the afternoon and we're answering them all on that. The other thing is the Woodrow Wilson-Brady, the completion of the telegraph road in a change, which will be a massive improvement to the safety in that area. We're also looking at a project on 95 hotlings from each street again by the Pentagon down to massaponics, probably 56 miles. We're looking at that. We hope perhaps in another two years we can start that or get that signed off in another year. We'll have some public hearings later this year. Also, of course, we have the hotlings project, the completion of the 5th X County Parkway along with our interaction with the Army on BRAC activities. And of course, not to leave out Dulles Rail, which we've started the utility relocation on Route 7, which we all know is interesting to do any work on Route 7 because of the nature of the location, heavy use during the day, and it's just tough to do the work. Tonight we're here to focus on the Virginia Hot Lanes project. You know, with me tonight, Jamie, bring Jamie's with the V.OT Communications team. Chris Collins is with Flore Lane, they're the folks building this project. And Chris is also involved with the Michelle Holland, Michelle Holland represents Transurban who will operate the Hot Lanes once they're complete. Michelle, previous history issues with Woodrow Wilson Bridge project, you know, prior to this. As you see on our agenda tonight, just a real quick overview of the Capitol, Beltway Hotlands, the construction timetable, a little look at the construction review in the greater area of the Fairfax City area. Also our V.O. General or Regional TMP, which is our Transportation Management Plan, how do we build it and how do we build it and how do we construct it and how do we communicate it to the people at the same time and also work with the local jurisdictions, homeowners associations, FFX County schools on getting people through construction while we're building this thing. The Capitol Beltway hot lanes, again what we're doing between Springfield and North of the Dolos toll road, we're adding four lanes in the middle. And those four lanes will carry toll traffic. They'll be free to HOV and public transit buses. For the first time, we all know that there's never been public transit on the beltway. Again, if you left Springfield taking a bus to TICES, you'd have no clue. You'd know when you leave, you never would know when you get there. Quite obviously, it's very hard to do a schedule based upon that. There's never been any HOV traffic. So a lot of the demand for HOV traffic or HOV membership, if you will, has been non-existent because folks coming up from the South, for instance, the staff coming up to 95, running out towards Tyson's corner, there's no incentive to be an HOV because there's no lanes for them and you're not saving any time. But we know through our research that once we put public transit and once we open it up to HOV, vehicles and carpools and so forth, that we will get a lot of pen up demand to use those lanes. Once we open up those new lanes, and we're going to do that by spreading out the current lanes on the outside of each side, two lanes in each direction. We'll do that over the next two years. We started work a few months ago. As you see right now, we're along the beltway during the whole area pretty much and we'll open up four lanes or two lanes on each side total four and we'll move the general purpose lanes traffic onto those new lanes by 2010, by 2011-2012 we'll be building the new hot lanes in the middle 2013 open the facility. The biggest thing about it, it's congestion free network for transit service for the first time introducing HOV to the beltway. Also what it does is connect and provide for the first time that HOV service between the 95, 395 corridor and 66 and the Delas-Tol Road. So we expect it to do a lot of wonders in getting people out of individual vehicles into carpools. When it's done with those new lanes in there, we suspect and base upon our research. We feel quite comfortable that we would see a 30 percent overall increase in the capacity in the beltway as we will know it when it's complete. And what that means is because more people are going to be getting carpools and vanpools, the less people will be using the hot lanes as individuals because they're going to find a better motoring experience on the general purpose lanes. In other words, the more folks in today's general purpose lanes that are heading towards Tyson's in the morning, that once they can get on and bust or join a carpool, we'll give up the car and it'll create more space on the general purpose lanes for everybody. Additionally, as we say, this whole project is all about choices. Right now there's no choice on the beltway. You get on there, you sit, you go, and you'll never know one day to the next what your experience will be. So for the first time you'll have a choice. You can elect the drive, you can elect to pay a toll if you live in Fairfax and you have the dental appointment in Tyson's and it's 20 after 8 and you got a 9 o'clock appointment. You can elect to say, hey, today I'm going to pay a toll. And again it's cashless, there's no cash, it's all transpond oriented. So you can elect for that day to pay the toll and ride and get there on time. You can also, as we said, get on a bus or join a carpool or you can stay in the general purpose lanes. You'll have about four choices. Right now, again, you have none. Another big thing, as you know, many of the interchange is on the, over the beltway now, Braddock Road, a little bit of a turnpike, all of them out to 66, Route 7, 123. Those bridges go back a big deal. You know that transportation money is somewhat limited, especially on the construction side. The more we keep things, just like an old car, the more we love it and keep it, it costs a little more money to keep those things running. So more money is going into, out of the total VDOT budget into maintenance. And while those bridges are safe, they require more and more money to keep maintaining them in a safe capacity. Good thing about this project. VDOT is within the rip out all those infrastructure there, about 260 million dollars worth of infrastructure. Roughly 50 structures and put up all new oversight bridges there into a new NSA 66 configuration. Not only it's going to be new, but it's going to be reconfigured to make it easy to adjust to the congestion that we have now. Again, when 66 in the beltway was originally designed, it was designed for a daily vehicle count that was much less than it is today. So it worked. But we all know today with such a heavy average daily vehicle count that was much less than it is today. So it worked. But we all know today with such a heavy average daily vehicle count that it doesn't work. We know there's a lot of clog up there as you're heading north on the beltway as 66 comes in and so forth. That'll all be reconfigured. And as you can see on the boards outside, you can see what that'll look like. In addition to that, all the bridges that we're going to take out and put in will be widened. It will be longer to accompany the new lanes underneath. In addition to that, they'll all be bicycle and pedestrian friendly. We're going to build those bridges to accommodate bicycle and pedestrian traffic. However, one thing we're not doing is beyond the scope of the project is to be able to connect in all areas, those bicycle and pedestrian access points with all the streets on those bridges like Bratwick Road, literally a turnpike, all of them. That will be another project. And of course at one time we thought that the NBTA would have the money to do the arterial build-ups to these things. We are doing an arterial study report on what it'll take once we build this this out to make those into changes much better. Braddock wrote it in and of itself as an example, I hate to pick on Braddock wrote, but it is closed. It won't change necessarily in any way, but once people get on the beltway, which is all about, it will change dramatically. The capital that we hot-wains improves sound wall protection for local neighborhoods. Right now we have 30, 35,000 linear-feet of sound wall out there. And it's mostly of an older design, metallic older design. But we're ripping all that down. We're doubling the amount of the sound wall, running up to 70,000 linear feet throughout this entire 14 mile area. And what that means is our sound wall material is much more technologically today, rather than the old stuff we used yesterday. The stuff we're using today is just like on the free fill in a change. Provides a good measure of protection for people. Our overall plan is to reduce by five decibels, the sound behind the walls once these go up. So it'll be an improvement to what we have currently out there. We'll have three new access points to Tyson's corner. And again, we know a lot of traffic is getting off at 7123, by adding additional get off points. From the hot lanes to Tyson's corner, we'll take a lot of that public transit and H.O.V. traffic directly in the Tyson's corner without clogging in the Route 7123 area. Virginia hot lanes is all about variable pricing. There's no cash, no quarters, no people taking any cash at all. It's all easy pass oriented. You'll have a transponder that will, if you pay the toll, you'll pay the toll using the transponder. If you're in a carpool, we'll have some sort of transponder that will have a flip switch on it that will allow the senses to detect that. You're in a carpool. Additionally to that, we know it's not an everyday toll road. Motivists will choose to pay a toll only when they need a faster and more reliable trick. Again, it's fully electronic and it's tied in with easy pass. Next section we have is construction. I'd like Chris to come up and discuss the construction aspects as it will impact a lot of the interchanges in our area. Good evening. I'm Chris Collins on the Director of Community and Public Affairs at Flourd Lane. As Steve said, we are the company that are, we are the design build company. That is to say, we are designing the project and we're actually building it. And you probably have seen, if you've been driving on the beltway, there is construction underway up by Route 66 interchange and also Steve was saying by the little river turnpike interchange. We're building some new bridges right there. Our general construction plan calls to build the two outer lanes on either side of the bellway between 2008 this year and 2011. We're going to rebuild and lengthen all the bridges. Every bridge across the bellway has to be lengthened to accommodate the wider bellway. The bellway is increasing in size by four lanes. The bridges that are currently there in addition to being old and in need of maintenance are, excuse me, they are simply not wide enough to accommodate the larger beltway. After we build those two lanes on either side, we're going to shift as Steve said, the general purpose lanes there, then we're going to build the two new lanes inside the beltway. I mean inside the new lanes. And when we're finished with that, we expect to open up in December of 2012, January 2013. We are doing everything we can to maintain proper flow of traffic during the construction period. We're not going to be closing any beltway lanes during peak rush hour. So we expect to have a minimal impact on beltway traffic at that time. And we're making sure that business and residential communities are accessible at all times. Any schedule, I would change this bullet here to say that schedule lane closures are being communicated in advance. Steve takes care of that every Thursday and every lane closure that's scheduled for the following week is communicated to all the appropriate folks via a wide range of media. And during the construction there will be of course appropriate message signs letting people that are driving in the area what's going to happen, what to expect, and how to adjust accordingly. There are a couple of interchanges that we thought were of a special interest to the residents of the city of Fairfax. At I-66, we're building it in several phases. The first phase, which is already underway, is to build an eastbound bridge over the beltway. We're driving piles out there, and we're getting moving forward on that. After that, we're going to build the westbound bridges. And these are going to be off the current alignment. We're not shutting down the current bridges, so there'll be minimal impact to traffic crossing over the right at that point. The second phase is to build the second half of the east down bridges over 4.95 and flyover ramps on the beltway in I-66. The third phase is to continue that and the hot lanes will have a new flyover ramp to 4.95 north and this is going to improve traffic flow. Excuse me. Sorry about that., but I turned it off. Anyway, other enhancements, there's going to be new auxiliary lanes extended from 66 to road 7 on 495 and this is going to allow for safer and easier merges onto 495. Arlington Boulevard, the Route 50 interchange. The first phase is going to build new and northbound collector distributor bridges. Those are the roads that when you come off, for example, if you're heading south on 4.95 on Route 50, you're heading down, you can either get off at Gallows Road or get onto 4.95. So you're on the beltway, you get on that collector distributor row. That's not, that gives you the opportunity not to have to get onto the freeway. You can stay off to the right in the collector distributor lane and then just get off at Gallup. So we're going to be building new ones. They're both north and southbound. Both north and southbound general purpose lane bridges will be done in phase 2, which will involve shifting the beltway traffic towards the median also both north and southbound. In Phase 3, new bridges for the hot lanes, north and southbound will be constructed and will shift the traffic out to the brand new General Purpose and lanes which are on either side of what are the current lanes. Route 236, Little Rover Turnpike. All of this activity, by the way, will be taken place between now and around 2011. And that's an aggressive schedule, but it's also a realistic schedule. We obviously hope to finish ahead of time, but there are a lot of variables that are involved. But we fully expect that we will be done with this construction phase of the project by 2011. We're beginning already. If you've been out there, you see that we're already building the new eastbound bridge. And this is also off the alignment, so it'll have minimal impact on traffic in the region crossing over. Second phase will be shifting the eastbound traffic to the new bridge, so that will have been built by then. And then shifting a little river traffic westbound onto the East Bridge. We remove the existing little river west bridge and build the west bridge after we get rid of the old one, keeping the traffic flowing at the same time. Phase three, we shift a little river westbound traffic to the new westbound bridge and get rid of the old bridge. As Steve said, we're demolishing every single bridge and overpass the crosses over the Beltway, replacing it with brand new infrastructure that will not only just accommodate the newer and wider Beltway, but also provides that bike and pedestrian access, which has never been there before. We've gotten very, very positive feedback from the cycling community at our design public hearings and in our public comments that we solicited from the public. And during these phases, we answer 495 South and Little River Turnpike West will be demolished and replaced. And I would like to call my colleague Michelle. Michelle Hone, or Steve, are you gonna take this here? Yeah. Okay, pardon me. He's there, I'm gonna show him. Okay, oh the dynamic place, yes. Steve will take you on the traffic management. Thank you. You know, we all agree that we need improvements here in Northern Virginia. It all cannot be done at one time. And when we go out and meet with people and they want to know, well, when we're doing this, why can't we do that? And we get involved in these project scope creeps that keep getting wider and wider. This is different, this is a design bill contract. It's different than a standard V.com contract where we could add on as we did with Springfield. And I know we all have memories of one price and then the price seemed to jump. While we had our opinions, why, the public had other opinions, why, but the fact be known is that there's a great deal that was added to Springfield beyond what be it out originally designed with the contractor. There was a lot of add in from the public. There was a lot of design work done to make things architecturally pretty, different design work for landscaping, sound walls here and there. So the project had some creep and we made it bigger than it was originally designed. This project is what it is. It's a fixed price contract at a certain price that Rita has committed to with the contract, with our partners. And by the way, this is all being done under the Public Private Partnership Act. So we do have partners here. We certainly want the public to understand that by doing this project, it's not something that we give Transurban the keys to the new hotlings and B.W.W.S. away. At all times, B.W.M.T. ownership, B.W.M.T. management of the overall structure while Transurban operates it on a day-to-day basis and it still belongs to the people of the common wealth of Virginia. It's very important that we understand that. Another important thing to recognize about hotlinks is what it gives us in terms of some of the things that we live within society today, on the negative side, evacuation routes. We haven't improved evacuation routes in northern Virginia quite some time. So while we all think of the positive, and we're using these lanes to go to and from work, and to go to and from restaurants, pleasure, and so forth, we also know that increasing the capacity along the beltway gives us additional room for evacuation as it is necessary and hopefully not, of course. Additionally, let's think for a minute if you were in an accident on the beltway. Currently, depending upon traffic, it's hard to get access to you from an emergency vehicle. For sure, a helicopter accident is probably not existent. But certainly, it's a shame that we have a great facility right close to the beltway, and certain instances getting access, if it's a heavy traffic day, you might be stuck there and there's no way to get to you as quickly as possible. Again, these lanes do provide emergency routing of those emergency vehicles as needed in the direction needed to meet the demands as a emergency incident exists. So that's another thing we need to think about. Also, we all know that on the 95, 395 structure, and I should say 395, particularly, you know, my days coming out of the Pentagon, you had a heavy snow. I'm driving by myself. I didn't get an HOV that I didn't have Carpool that day. The district administrator while he's looking at those cameras can make the decision to open those lanes to all traffic. We will have that same ability on the hot lanes. Of course any traffic that goes through there, VDOT will pick up the bill and pay for those people. But the bottom line is not the course to VDOT. The bottom line is to using those lanes as most efficiently as possible to get the greatest amount of people back to their residents, back to where they want to go in the most expeditious manner and the safety as possible. So those are good points that have nothing to do with building new roads. It's how these roads will serve the society in general. Let me focus again on this last section. It's the regional TMP and TMP is our Transportation Management Plan. All these programs that call them mega projects, but the official thing is under the regional transportation program of which Nick Nicholson from VDOT is the regional program director. Nick is the fellow that with others of course built the Wilson Bridge and is a very fine job of it. So Nick now oversees all these other projects here. And to do that, we work with our partners, Flore Lane and Transurban. And we operate this through the GEC, a general engineering consultant that Readout brings on to manage this massive thing, kind of exactly like we had at the Wilson Bridge. And together, these teams come together to make this project work. And not only this project, but the GEC will work with all our projects to make sure all these projects because the fourth lane project kicked off in January. This project kicked off a few months ago. Parkway will kick off soon. Telegraph Road has started. Utility work on Route 7. So you can see how it's so very critical that we have a communications apparatus to communicate with folks like yourself, folks who are watching this briefing on television, to know that we are the folks that want to maintain open and continuous communication 24-7. And to do that, we have created this regional TMP to serve the public in all areas. Our goal of the program is during construction to keep motorist businesses, shoppers and employees informed and moving during construction. And we do this in many ways. As you see here, we have these multiple large projects over the next 10 years. I have roughly $58 million, that's a significant amount of money that has been earmarked especially for communications and those programs that will help people through construction during this period of time. To do this and to implement and to use those funds effectively, we have various TMP strategies, various transportation management program strategies. One is you see as the aggressive outreach, public outreach program. Not only do we like to appear in front of official bodies such as yourselves, but we also welcome any home-owns associations, civic association, rotary, chamber commers, any type of religious group that would like to have us in schools. We recently appeared in front of the Northern Virginia Community College. We'd like to work with George Mason University. We worked very closely with Fairfax County with the Fairfax County school system as we know getting through the largest school, one of the largest school system of bus systems in the country, we need to work closely with them because they take kids to work day and night, to school, I should say, they take kids to extra-curricular activities, and these buses, as we all know, some of them are quite large, and if we have some reduced lanes or side lanes here and there, we need to work together to inform them ahead of time if there's any impedents to their being able to get through. So we maintain close relations with all segments of society, both official organizations, businesses, the mall structures, all corporations. Since January, we probably appeared in front of 16 to 75 companies discussing with them what this means to them and what it means to the employees. To even help even further along with Fairfax County Office of Transportation, we have a strong public outreach program, employer program, where we have people that will go in and talk to human resources and corporations within government structures. To discuss programs that V.DOT has available to assist in getting people back and forth during construction and how we maintain relationships with organizations to ensure everybody has the news available to them as quickly as they want to. Communitor information stores, I must say that we had a novel idea back in 98 and that was to build a real-time store in the Springfield Mall. Since that time, we must have had visitors from 30 different countries come there to see how we communicate projects. You know, constructing projects is not all that complex in and out of itself with the materials used, it's concrete, it's steel, it's asphalt and so forth. The trick is is communicating with the public and by we needed unique ways to do that. And you know, just like a real estate project, a commercial real estate project may have a trail of somewhere. And instead of asking people to get out of the car and maybe walk through the mud and with kids and time is precious to everybody, we wanted to get where the people are. So we built a real retail store, no different than the gap or any of the outlet stores. And we have people that come in, they see the whole product, everything you see here tonight, all kinds of maps. We also sell tickets to transit operations, Fairfax County, the Connectibus Service, Metro Service, VRE and Metro Trains. A lot of folks in Northern Virginia are newcomers to our country and they need a little assistance in getting around it. We quite challenging, if you've been here quite some time. They may not speak the language, so we need to have a way that they feel comfortable having an interface with their government on a day-to-day basis to have that form for exchange of ideas, no matter what it may be. And I'll tell you one thing, it has nothing to do with it. It's on the project. They can come in and report a street sign down, or if snow is down and a snow vehicle hasn't visited them, we'll leave through the street. It says V dot on the door. We want to hear whatever it is you need to know about. If it's not with our project, we'll put them in touch with those folks. So it's a nice segue into the V dot organization. Because it was such a good thing, we had more than 300,000 people that visited us at Springfield. We can open up another store in Tysus Corner for the mega projects opening up in Tysus Corner one hopefully by no later the end of first quarter of 2009. That store again will have everything here you see tonight on Hotlines, Dollas Rail and many of the other mega projects. And we're looking forward again to have a place where people can interact and get the questions they need answers. More than that we invite the Girl Scouts and Boy Scouts in. We have quite a bit of community action, interaction with various groups. And Cub Scouts, Boy Scouts getting merited as we have engineers visit with them. It's a nice place to, with a public and interact again with V.D. Additional traffic cameras, we all know it's quite important that traffic cameras are really important. We're adding quite a few of them through the whole card, wherever we have these mega projects. I mentioned schools, we all, part of that whole reaching out to government organizations, like the education system, is our extensive coordination with state and local police, fire and rescue, absolutely important, as we all know. No sense, you can imagine what it'd like to be, is shutting down a lane with access to a ramp that we have a detour in effect and not have the emergency services people know that. They've got to know these things ahead of time. Fire department has to know what's going on out there. Matter of fact, there's been times in the past in Springfield. We briefed the White House transportation office. It's very important. In case of an emergency that people have to know what lanes will be open, what lanes will be closed, what's the long-term look at? Also dedicated safety service patrols, the VEDA patrols that are out there to assist motorists in need, additionally improved traffic signal timing wherever possible we can do that. Lastly, we can talk about programs that help employers and employees. We talked a moment about employer services. We want to hear from companies. We continue to reach out to all companies. We have complete lists of the chambers of commerce, and types of transportation. And we call up companies and invite ourselves to say, would you like to have us in? And then we have companies call us directly inviting us in. Our whole purpose is to introduce ourselves to open the door to 24-7 communication throughout the life of these projects. You see on one side all these employer services that we do provide and also commuter services that we will provide. Lastly about staying informed. I did mention the transportation stores but a lot of folks just can't make it into the malls. We want to stay informed. The course today the internet is the big ticket into People's Lives. VAMegaProjects.com is the website for people to find out what's going on in all of the mega projects. There's direct links from there right to the Virginia Hot Lanes project on 4.95. For those folks who want to go directly to the 4.95 project, they can go to Virginia hotlines.com. Either way, people get to us. They can get to us. Either time, any time that any organization wants to have us come in and visit with them, we're more than happy to do that. And we look forward to hearing from various groups and get together and start the dialogue and communication. Gentlemen, that wraps up real quick. The 495 hotlines presentation, if there are any questions at this time, there's been more of them. If anyone had any questions? No? Well, I want to thank everybody for being here and thank the audience for tuning in. And I really want to thank Steve and Michelle and Chris and Jamie. And for those of you who may or may not know, Jamie has actually been involved with the city for some time. and Jamie and for those of you who may or may not know, Jamie has actually been involved with the city for some time. She previously worked on the Fairfax Bill of our partnership. So I appreciate her dedication to the city of Fairfax. Speaking of behalf of the mayor of the city council, we certainly appreciate them coming out here. We also appreciate city residents tuning in and listening and finding out how they can be informed about this construction project. This is going to be a project that as you saw is going to affect City residents who commute around the Northern Virginia region, which I think is pretty much all of us whether you're going to work or going to shop or going to play or running about doing your daily errands. So these projects are clearly important, but they're also ones that the answer you're going to cost them headaches. So the best thing that all of you can do is stay informed. I guess, speaking on behalf of the mayor and my colleagues on the council, we will continue to hold these briefings. Possibly have one for Delos Rail and also another briefing later down the line once more construction is done on the hot lanes and I do encourage people to go the websites they're fantastic there are a lot of information very easy understand I'd also there's some information some briefs that you can download and also I'm sure if you call the dot or trend urban before they can also send it to you this This briefing will continue to be online, Fairfax Virginia dot gov, and you can also get a channel 12. We'll be replaying it. And then also the PowerPoint slide presentation will be available online as well. So again, thank you for everybody. I really appreciate everybody being out here and hope everybody has a good evening and travel safely. Thanks. Thank you.