I'm sorry. This is the city commission meeting Monday, June 17th, 2024, 7 o'clock p.m. at city hall Lake Alfred, Florida. I would like to invite Elder Richard Blocker of Church of God by faith up to give us the invocation and we'll follow that with the pledge of allegiance. I father and I guard we come this afternoon thanking you for your grace. Thank you for your mercy. This is the day that you are made and you tell us to rejoice and be grateful. Father God we actually look down on each and every one that came out today. Lord to this meeting God, look down on the one that desire to be here were able to come. We are here right now, Father God, the meet and knees of the peoples in this community. You know what we stand in the New York God, continue to be with the mayor, The entire board. We actually cover them. Keep them. God. Oh God, there's some questions from the answer needed. The next. We actually right now. God, given the wisdom knowledge, God, to be able to help in the time and the need right now. We actually look down on each and every one. First responders, go look down on the police officers in this community. The fire marshal. Look down on the moral. God. Oh God. Look down on the sky. Look down on the police officers in this community. The fire marshal look down on the moral God. Oh God, look down on the teachers in the student finally out of school in this community guy. Copus God in a mighty name was Jesus God. Oh God, the weather may get hot at tan car, but we know you'll protect the guy. Even through the rain, the reals will protect the guy. We actually the keep right now. God, compass blood guard and got we actually right now got it's Who question might be ax God night that we have the answer this time God when maybe they can get the answer through you God later on God we actually do it in your son Jesus man we pray amen Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you Okay, we'll get Mr. Maltz be in here and get you set down comfortably and safely. Good to have you, sir. Okay, roll call. We'll ask the city clerk Linda Bichot to call the roll, please. Mayor Fuller. President, I'm Mr. Name. I was... Vice President, like here, Commissioner Eden. Here. Commissioner Dehrman. Here. Bruce Wallace. Bruce Wallace. I know I messed up. Okay. Now for the city manager and city attorney announcements, I'll ask city manager Ryan Levin Good. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. On Wednesday of this week, June 19th, city offices will be closed and observance of the Juneteenth holiday. On Thursday, July 4th and Friday, July 5th, the city offices will be closed and observance of the 4eteenth holiday on Thursday, July 4th and Friday, July 5th. The City offices will be closed in observance of the Fourth of July holiday. Our next City Commission meeting will be held on Monday, July 8th at 7pm and remember in July we do the Second and Fourth Monday, so that will be the Second Monday in July. And then also too, if you'll draw your attention to the screen. This morning the city had the Florida Department of Transportation out the time residents of the Gardens of Lake Alfred assisting living facility using the city's crosswalk. And this was actually initiated by Linda and the city's ADA team. And so I will yield to her for additional explanation and comment. Yes, I had noticed that there were taken a lot of time and the crosswalk signals were changing, so I called them out and the FOT did find some deficiencies in the operation of the entire crosswalk system. Like the countdown wasn't showing and when you walk into the intersection it wasn't giving you the walk signal until it was just not showing the hand before it turned to the walk. So what they're going to do is they're recommending increasing the crosswalk timing from 23 seconds to cross to 39 seconds for the safety of our residents and the time adjustments are going to be across the three lanes of traffic at the three intersections of Lake Shoreway, Shin Boulevard, and that's at East Pomelo and Haynes Boulevard, and they anticipate having the system fixed within the next couple weeks. Very good. Thank you, Linda. Appreciate the the ADA lens on all all across the city. Did they notice that the street sign is broken for a long time, that says Shen Bolivar. When you're coming down 57, this sign's been gone for months. I can put it on my list and get with my contact. I think that one's perpetually on John's list, So, John's list will see what we can do there. Also, two received an announcement from the friends of the library that they will be remitting to the city at check in excess of $129,000 from Dr. Ford's estate. The city is working with the architectural firm on a proposal to begin working on the design for the library's expansion as a result of this generous contribution. So we look forward to bringing that task order forward in the upcoming months and then coordinating with the friends of the library. They will most certainly have a seat at the table as we go through to make sure that that expansion serves not only the Lake Alford of today, but the Lake Alford of tomorrow with all the growth that we've got coming. At the final announcement, on the last city commission meeting, it was brought up regarding the city commission compensation because we went through the payroll section of the budget. I went back and looked at the charter. And so if we wanted to do something there, the ordinance has to be adopted six months in advance of the election and then effectively whatever the agreed upon, new amount is as the seats kind of turn over and they go into their new terms. That's when it would take into effect. So it's got to be at least six months before the election. And then it would kind of cycle through, you know, over the years. It's been quite a few years since we've done that most certainly with the growth and the inflation environment and the like. We could, if the City Commission is so interested, staff could kind of do a poll of the surrounding cities and just kind of see where we're at and then report that back to the Commission. We do have some time. The ordinance would just need to be adopted pretty much in conjunction with the annual budget in order to meet that threshold. Are you looking for a consensus? Yeah, just a consensus and I can pull it together and then provide the data to the city commission. I'm personally not in favor of an increase. Not I think that's not taxpayers. I don't think it was really being an increase. I mean, I don't think we're talking about doing anything crazy anyways. I think it's just that it would be a mild, if anything, right? For the most part. Purely a policy call. As staff, I would just pull together the data and kind of show you where the other cities are and then you guys can go from there. And the way that the charter does it is to where you're not really voting your own interest because it wouldn't even take effect until subsequent terms. So you may very well be voting on something that you individually may not experience unless you were reelected or chose to stay on. So that's the way that the charter is set up. That's fine with me to do the study and go from there. I don't have any problems with that. Tell me in favor as well. My terms are not up for a couple more years. I want to help everybody out. So I would stand at this point in favor and look forward to having your findings presented and make a decision. Staff will pull it together probably over the next month and then distribute it to the commission and then we can go from there as to whatever the direction that the commission so may choose. That's all I have no other announcements. Okay. Since this is a public meeting, we have an opportunity right now for a recognition of citizens. If we have any citizens right now that would like to get up and address the commission, feel free to give us your name and your address in five minutes. Anybody interested? Oh, we do. My last announcement was just a new basketball way, etc. So we're getting good usage out of that. It looked great. I was out there. I was out there. I think it was last Wednesday and that was really neat. I was even excited about it. I waited about, I don't know, maybe it was just starting to get a little bark and like, okay, let me just go ahead and test it out now. I'm, okay, Mon, and work perfectly. So everybody enjoy it. Thank you. Perfect. It's very well used. Yes, maureen. Margaret test stone 160 West Cains Boulevard. I was very interested in the discussion about the traffic light. And it reminded me that the only other traffic light in town is, of course, rescames a grump, less painful of heart, and on the main street. Generally, they do. You do see 92? Yeah. And the lights in the traffic light don't work. There's a stop sign, and there's a foot, I think. But it doesn't tell you anything about the timing. So when the light turns green, you have to immediately get out there because you don't know how long it's going to be before. And it's not very long. I can tell you that. Traffic will start up again and I noticed the person who wasn't was talking about it. The other traffic light, they seem to have a whole working situation and I'm wondering if we shouldn't have the same thing. So are we talking about the crosswalk? Yeah, one with the track, like a crosswalk. Yeah, it hangs and makes sure. Yeah. And it's just not, it's not sinking up correctly, peg. No. No. No, it's not. Sometimes it doesn't work at all. OK. And so you just have to watch the lights yourself. But often there, it doesn't tell you how long you have to walk the course. Oh, that's true. And so now. Are you aware of that, Anglanda? If it is the crosswalk, he checked all of them in the city today. And they've got improvements I need to do. Yes. Okay. So we'll just verify that they're going to correct that as well. And we'll make sure I think it's already on the list, but we'll make sure that they get to. Thank you very much. Are there any other people that would like to speak? Okay. Are there any other people that would like to speak? Okay. Then we'll go ahead and start with our Proclamation this evening. And I would like to invite Elder Richard Blocker, again of the Church of God by faith, up to the podium, and we're going to read in to the record our Proclamation this evening. the seat. This proclamation is for our Juneteenth Day proclamation whereas for 159 years Juneteenth Day has been the most recognized African-American holiday observance in the United States, known as Emancipation Day, Emancipation Celebration, Freedom Day, June June, Juneteenth Independence Day, or Juneteenth. And whereas Juneteenth commemorates the day freedom was proclaimed to all slaves enslaved in the South by major emery and the United States colored troops posted General Order No. 3 on June 19, 1865 on Reedy Chapel, AME Church in Galveston, Texas, more than two and a half years after the signing of the Emancipation Proclamation by President Abraham Lincoln. And whereas until all are free, none are free, is an oft-repeated maxim that can be used to highlight the significance of the end of the era of slavery in the United States. And whereas in 1991, Representative Alzo, Jay Redick, Sr., Orlando, authored the legislation for the State of Florida's Juneteenth Observance, which was signed into law by Florida Governor Lawton Tiles in May of 1991. And whereas in June 1973, Doris Moore Bailey was first introduced to Juneteenth Day History during a horseback trail ride and locally in June 1992 founded the Juneteenth Committee, which ultimately organized the first Juneteenth observance in Florida. And whereas the 19th of June, along with the 4th of July, completes the cycle of freedom for American Independence Day observance. And whereas Juneteenth was made an official city of Lake Alfred Holiday in 2021 to provide all of the residents an opportunity to learn, reflect, and celebrate the rights, privileges, culture, achievements, and sacrifices of African Americans in and to the city of Lake Alfred and to this country. Therefore be it proclaimed that the city of Lake Dalford formally recognizes June 19th, 2024 as Juneteenth Day. The witness whereof I have here under set my hand and the city seal this 17th day of June 2024. If you serve would you like to say something? Yes, like I say, I just thank the mayor and the board and each of the community here in Lake Albrecht. We thank you for allowing us this population of concerning June, June, and you know, you know, we're about to all of them right along the way. And we thank you for everything that you do in this community for us. It's very useful and very thankful for you, Darlene. Thank you. Thank you very much. I'm sorry. I apologize to you for skipping over you. We have the City Attorney announcements this evening. I'm easily forgettable. It's okay. Only that we remain grateful to represent the great city of Lake Alpenmer. Thank you. Thank you, sir. I apologize. Okay, so the consent agenda, I would like to consent agenda for number one city commission meeting minutes for June 3rd, 24 and number two city commission announcements. Are there any in agreement or have any questions on that. I'd like to make a motion to accept. Yes, I do. So there are any commission comments? Mr. Mayor, I'd like to make a motion that we approve the commission amount on announcements in city minutes. Wait a second. Okay, we have a motion a second. Okay, we have a motion and second. Any opposed? All in favor say aye. Okay, there is no opposed and the motion is carried. Okay, our agenda this evening, agenda item number one, ordinance 15-24, school zone speed enforcement. I'd like to have city attorney to read the ordinate 1540-24 into the record. Thank you, Mayor. Ordnance number 1540-24. Ordnance number 1540-24. And ordnance of the city commission of the City of Lake Alfred Florida and Mending to Chapter 54 of the coded ordinances of the City of Lake Alfred by creating Article 5 entitled School Zone Speed Enforcement, making findings providing for purpose, intent and definitions, providing for the establishment of a School Zone Speed Enforcement program and authorizing the use of school zone speed detection systems within the city of Lake Alfred providing for program implementation requirements and accordance with chapter 2023-174 laws of Florida providing for the designation of school zones providing for enforcement and administrative procedures providing for the incorporation of recitals, providing for conflicts, providing for severability, providing for the administrative correction of the school members' errors, providing for codification, providing business impact estimates, and providing for an effective date. Thank you. I would like to have City Manager present the analysis, please. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. On May 21, 2023, the Governor of the State of Florida signed HB657 into law authorizing the enforcement of school zone speed limits through a speed detection system. The law took effect on July 1 of last year. The program requires notice to the public for educational purposes, requires the law enforcement agency to administer a school crossing guard recruitment and retention program. We would probably achieve this through interlocal agreement with Polk County since they're already providing it and provides for the issuance of traffic citations by a traffic infraction enforcement officer. Additionally, the program allows for speed detection systems that will provide photographs or video and evidence of speed that are admissible and proceedings held by the special magistrate. Anyone receiving a citation will not have points imposed against their driver's license. Implementing these systems aims to enhance public safety and welfare, ultimately reducing accidents, injuries and traffic disruptions, associated with speed limit violations in school zones. The safety of children and parents is a key factor in implementing school zones, speed limit detection systems. These systems aim to deter reckless driving and speeding which can put children and parents at risk while entering or exiting school zones. This proposal aims to authorize use of school zone speed limit detection systems as permitted by Florida law. These systems serve as an additional measure for monitoring vehicle speeds and supporting law enforcement and enforcing speed limit laws within school zones. The offenders will be fined $100 if they are caught on camera, speeding at least 11 miles over the speed limit and the authorized school zone and the 35 mile per hour speed limit zone. They propose times for the camera enforcement will be during school days from 7, 10 AM until 3, 25 PM and they have modified hours due to early release days and the summer. So just for a little bit of clarification, I know Art and I have spoken about this at length. It would, if you're, when the speed limit's 15 miles an hour, when it's blinking, it would issue a citation if it's 11 miles an hour over that. During the school day though when it's not blanking and then it would issue a citation if you're going 11 miles over the normal speed. So like if you're driving through it like 11 a.m. you know the school zone isn't activated but if you go 46 miles an hour through town This would then also issue a citation in between the 7, 10 a.m. and the 3, 25 p.m. That's my understanding, Arkin, probably clarified it if I misstepped there at all. The proposed location for the speed enforcement detection system is on U.S. Highway 1792 on those Shimbledon and Lakeshore Way. So the primary school crossing there right at Cummings. We have struggled for years with speeding through downtown with and I put this as a placeholder just because I'm going off of the old traffic study. I put 30,000 cars per day. It might be 40,000 or 50,000 at this point that are traveling through Lake Alfred. We could have officers issuing citations all day and barely make a dent. And so we've known that for years to arts credit. As we've gotten back up to full staff, I've seen a lot more out there and pulling people over and the like. But again, with 30,000 plus cars per day, it's very tough to try to deter that. Despite our recent uptake and speed enforcement, this system will act as a force multiplier and a deterrent and slowing traffic down through the downtown area. Based on a 2019 study, FDOT traffic study and presentation, 90% of traffic that's coming through Lake Alfred are on long-range trips that did not originate from Lake Alfred. So you know 90 plus percent of all the traffic coming through town, it's not Lake Alfred residents, it's people that are on you know 10 plus mile trips that are coming from Winter Haven and down south and then they're they're going up through 557 and then you know going east towards Orlando. The city will receive $60 from each citation. Approximately 20%, maybe a little bit more of this will go to the vendor that maintains the cameras and processes the citations. The city would use the remaining funding to paper staffing to manage the program. So we would have to have a sworn officer that would have to review the video. You would have to probably have an administrative assistant that would also help review the video. You would have to probably have an administrative assistant that would also help with the workload. And then they would have to attend special magistrate hearings in order to testify and the like. Any remaining funding that we had left over would be utilized to fund additional traffic and safety enforcement in the example given just hiring additional police officers, which we would use to help address law enforcement call volume generated by traffic predominantly from outside our city that Lake Alfred must effectively pay for. So that's another way of looking at it. All the traffic that comes through town that generates a tremendous amount of call volume, you know, not only for public, not only for fire, but also for police. The city receives no subsidizing revenue as a result of that. So it's in a way, we're kind of subsidizing kind of the state operations there. This would be an opportunity, whatever revenue was generated to reinvest it back into the police department in order to then hire additional officers to handle the volume, the call volume that's being created from that traffic. Staff recommendation on this item is for approval of ordinance 1540-24 on first reading. But before we go any further, I would like to yield to Chief Bowdenheimer for additional comments and presentation and clarification on anything that I might have missed. Good evening, Commission. Chief Art Mode, I'm a Lake Alfred Police Department. So, as Steve Maynors has gave you a pretty good outlook of what the program entails. Certainly, one of the things that we have to do is provide evidence that we have a speed problem through that zone, through traffic tickets we've issued through being out there day after day and seeing traffic flow through this zone, it's not hard for us to do that. We'll continue to do that with specific speed studies from whichever company that we pick to show what we've got as far as the speed violation by the numbers. I can't tell you a city not too far away from us did go ahead and act as they got there as done before the school year ended. In the first month they're in a public campaign they had over 700 violations in their school zone and certainly each time that we do this each school year you're going to see a uptick and it go down as people start to realize what they're doing and that's how it is to get people to slow down in our schools and there's several things. Just like to read a couple things for you. There's a couple more things to this important law enforcementness. I don't think we would do it if we didn't have a problem in Lake Alpherden. If you ever traverse across 1792 on either side, even how hard it is. And some of the stuff that we do is not only for the safety of our children that are crossing and our parents each day, it's for the safety of our citizens that are crossing in their cars just so they can get across that roadway. Hopefully this helps also slow cars down so that they can do that. So, the other part of it that I'd say, I'm just going to eat what the fine goes to specifically in this, how it breaks down. So $20 goes to the Department of Revenue. $60 goes to the city. $3 goes to the Department of Law Enforcement. $12 goes to the school districts and $5 goes to Law Enforcement Agency's school crossing program. So, the money that goes to FDLE that is going back to the law enforcement training fund. Just to give you an idea what that money does to help our police officers several years ago when things were tight they reduced that training which we can send officers to click free classes for our region. When they reduced that that cut down the number that our local school, which would be Pope State, was allowed out. I should say I'll schools all over the state. That reduced how many classes they could put on because they didn't have that state help with the money to train the officers or only specialized classes. So it's another way to help. A few more things I'd just like to read just to make sure everybody understands. Law enforcement can enforce school zones by camera on regular school days only. Um, the, could we get the blinds? Could we catch the blinds, Emily? Thank you. So like City Manager said, during the summertime when schools out, unless you had summer school and you, and we could prove that kids were crossing on those days, it wouldn't be on weekends, it wouldn't be on any other day, or holidays when school's not in session. The use of speed enforcement cameras will be performed 30 minutes before school, it's a 30 minutes after. Tickets can be issued by the camera for vehicles driving 11 miles over speed limit. This includes during school hours when the school limit is not reduced. We talked about that. An initial ticket called Notice of Allations will be given a city hearing before a city local hearing officer if somebody wants to contest a hearing. So we've already got that approved. There are local magistrates that he would take care of that. Tickets go to the register owner of the vehicle, kind of like Relight and Stu. If they're not the one driving and they can test it, they can bring whoever that subject is up and the not subject would be issued $100 citation or notice a violation. But it's the owner's burden to do that. They have to have that responsibility. If the owner doesn't pay the final within 30 days, they can be issued a uniform traffic citation at UTC. That adds additional things and that actually puts it to a county court where it becomes a movement in fraction where they can receive points on their driver's license. The initial which should be given from our system would not be a point system that will only be a civil infraction with no points attached to the driver's license. So you could have 100 of them and only people who are not going to be running your driver's license, hopefully you'd learn before that, but your wallet would be a little later though. Yes, it certainly wouldn't. We have to adopt the ordinance which we're working on now for the use of them. We must provide evidence which will continue to do not only through my testimony but also through our speed study that's going on there and we've already had one of our companies do that. I just have not seen those numbers yet but they're very high higher than the rep for me or higher than what I originally thought they would be. So I'm waiting here from that. Of course we have to get permission from DOT and go through the permitting process. And we have to do a 30-day implementation period for public notification and public awareness. So all the companies pretty much we dealt with helping part to do that. We've already got press on board in Polk County. Hain City approved this week before last in their city along with the Relight Camera Program and they already had the press inquire and they've been very positive. I had a few weeks back. I talked to the press around us to do other stories and asked them that whenever we get ready to implement this and we're there that we come out and do some live Feeds so that people can see where we're at or the zones at the other thing we have to do there will be notification signs put up prior to The school zone so let people know that they're gonna be camera enforced It won't be any surprise and certainly they're not public campaign. We'll put the message out there where these signs are and where you need to slow down. There's some requirements on the radar test that are in the cameras. They would be both directions and they do all three lanes simultaneously with the cameras that are there. So if anybody has any questions, I'll certainly try to educate you on what we have. So we're talking about hammock cameras just on the two. It would be one pole, my understanding isn't all the ones I'm saying would be one pole with a three camera system only. Okay, to start with, because the process with DOT, I can tell you getting a permit, no different than us getting our Christmas parade permit, can be quite challenging and a good thing. And depending on, how does that sound? Depending on who's there that your things change. You gotta remember, when we do the parade, we're doing the thing for what an hour and a half to hours. This thing's gonna be permanently installed in the ground with electric hood to it. So there's a little bit more process in it, you know, where they put it and how they have to have safety breakways and everything else on it. And so our magnus straight will handle the cases, I guess. Correct. And we've had a preliminary conversation with him and they're willing to kind of take on that workload as we go forward. If the commission does approve this, there would be other agreements that would kind of companion with the ordinance. So there would probably be a separate magistrate agreement and then another agreement with the ordinance, so there would probably be a separate magistrate agreement and then another agreement with the provider. So that we would kind of layer into that with the different agreements that would attach to it. Very good. Thank you. I had a couple of questions. First, will it only be north-, it won't measure east, west? No, no. And how big will the warning signs be for say out of town, as for example, I know the red light camera has this tiny little thing that when you're in Hanes City or Lakeland that if you're not looking for it, you don't see it and if you're from out of town, unless we get a reputation like Waldo or something. It's going to be pursuant to whatever the DOT standard is. They have specifications for installation of signage as well as the cameras and so in order to probably permit you will have to build the signage or construct the signage in accordance with those guidelines and those I believe are published or due to be published by December 31st of 2023 if that's. They were, and that was part of the whole of them. Remember this was signed, early last year, to go into effect July 1st, but DOT had until the 31st of December to set up all the maintains, signage, what they wanted on state roads to do it. So it will be a normal regulatory sign they have set up. That's one thing that whichever company that we choose will help get that taken care of and make sure that we have them. You know. I want a big over-the-road signage. I'm in favor of slowing them down. I'm just worried that people are going to realize. And I know sometimes if they're from out of town, they don't realize it went down to 35 miles an hour. And I don't want to give them a break, because that was my other question now too, if I'd gotten two red light cameras and I wasn't in the car. And when I inquired, I found out if I read it on the person who was driving they would actually get points on their license and have to pay a higher fine but you're telling me that's an opicace here that they're just going to get the hundred dollars and not as long as the registry owner takes care of 30 days. Yes. Because that was another. And they kind of went in the legislation they tried to avoid avoid the, I guess you call it the rat law, that you have to tell on someone in order to avoid the citation. You have to file an affidavit within 30 days of receiving the notice by certified mail or by a US first class mail stating that you were not in possession or control of the vehicle or that you were not the owner, or you had some type of, someone else had some type of interest or possession of the vehicle or that you were not the owner or you had some type of someone else had some type of interest or possession of the vehicle. Now if that affidavit is not filed then the registered owner is presumed it's a rebuttable presumption presumed to be the responsible party and they will be financially responsible for the fine. And then who gets it if it's an autonomous vehicle? Well we have a lot of conversation about that right now in Florida. There's a lot of people who don't know how many autonomous vehicles might be driving beside you or our roommates today. Well, I serve on the Policy Committee for Transportation and we've had a lot of discussion about that and when they have accidents or the insurance life, we've had a lot of discussion about that. I was just curious that this particular thing had a rule about who's going to get the fine. I'm really conflicted about making sure that people know. I'm thinking it should be big signs with arrows and lights blinking and some people you better slow down because the idea is to slow them down. It isn't to make money. That's what will happen. We'll get that, like they didn't weld though where the reputation was, well they're just trying to get the money. So they sneak up on you that you're going to take it and then you, you know, so. Do you think the signs need to be bigger than that big flashing one across the roadway? Okay. Because God knows they don't pay attention to it or the ones on the side that are half the size of that. Well, that's the thing. If they knew that it was being enforced with a video, they would. We can, as we, we can all send that out in an update to see like what the size of the signage will be. But as the city attorney, in order for us to get a permit, it's going to have to be exactly the FDA-T specifications. Not one inch bigger or smaller will have to do it. The interesting thing about this program, I think it will have a deterrent, even though people will kind of, even though you won't get citations certain times of the day, I think it should have an overall chilling effect just because, hey, I'm driving up on this thing, there's a sign. I know I gotta take it one time before, I don't know if this thing's active or not. So even if it's summer, even if it's a holiday, when technically the cameras aren't running, I think overall, I think there's some level of optimism that it just created a slowing effect overall. But you're saying that they got one ticket they're not going to get another one. Do we get a Mulligan? Is there a warning? It's not the issue with these. The warnings for a period of time. For your first 30 days that should public awareness and they do issue warnings during that time. There also will be some other talking to other cities because we do not want people to think that this is a money making event. It's not what it's about. It's about safe people, kids and people crossing that street. But I talked to some other cities and in that same time period or in the first month of issuing citations, if you had more than one violation, then they would leave it at the one violation during that month. However, when that 30 days is up, then if you've gone through there five times and you're doing that, then you're gonna get five citations. And it never increases as far as getting it? No, same $100. And $100? Yes. So hopefully, you know hopefully you learn. And one final thought or from the management side, you know, in the revenue conversation, this is something that's restricted. It's not that work. You can't take the funding and use it to balance the budget or, you know, put it elsewhere. It's specific to law enforcement programs. So I would look at it and they're different than Permanent Free Revenue. I don't get excited when a bunch of Permanent Free Revenue rolls in because it's this category right back to where it started. So the same thing here, we'll create a program to where we will reinvest it. And talking initially with the chief, we'll have to see where we fall in. You don't want to make reoccurring commitments on potentially non-reoccurring funding, but based on some of the volumes that I've heard, we very well may be able to hire two additional police officers. And then again, that would just increase the level of service in the city in order to offset the volume of traffic coming through from out of town residents. And just to let the commission know that there's going to be an annual reporting requirement that runs hand and glove with this program. So annually you will have a gen die as a non-consent item. An annual report that talks about the number of infractions, how many were dismissed, how many were paid, and as well as a number of different other items that will be presented to you and available for public comment. So you'll know the progress and the performance data as time passes to see how effective this program actually is. Well that outside company be contracted for a period of time or something that is going to be a long period of time or is it yearly or are we going to be locked in for you know 10 years or something that is going to be a long period of time or is it yearly or are we going to be locked in for 10 years or something? No, we won't. So they talk about it up to five years. My wish is for that is three years. And some of the companies, if you back out of that, they charge your fees. Some of the companies do not charge your fees. If you have to move the cameras for some reason, then they don't charge you the fees. A good thing about some companies doing some of the companies don't, but let's just say DOT decided to mar that we're all the sudden we'll get our payment job done and we just put the school cameras up. They're not going to charge you anything during that construction period when you're not able to enforce because of the construction. So there's a lot of things that play into all of that and how long you're going to be, but three is what I'm looking at initially. So it gives us a good, I think that it gives us a good look at what we're doing or we're making a difference. And I say I believe every year at the game school year, we're going to have the peak, and then I think as people are, and you're going to see it go down. If we ever get our complete streets that just helps slow them down too. Absolutely, absolutely. So for lockdowns to something you want to make sure we can manipulate that over to the other room. And really the contract would be up to three years but the way I've seen it written and I've looked at several different agreements you know it's percentage based. So even if you did have a complete streets and the number of citations, my only ask is that we didn't have an outstanding obligation if we didn't reach a certain like quota or number, I didn't want it to be a net negative. I remember in some of the early iterations of the red light cameras, certain cities ran into that where they were, it was actually starting to cost them. I don't mind doing the percentage deal because then it's a percentage of citations that are issued. Ultimately, the goal is between traffic design and education. If we had zero citations, that would be fantastic. That would mean no one was feeding through the city, and we could just close the book on this thing and be done with it. So that's I think so if it scales down from a combination of just altering behavior education or as a vice mayor daily suggested if we do end up getting design enhancements, which further brings it down, there's not going to be a net liability to the city. Chief one other thing, this for now at least is in through the main quarter of downtown. Are we thinking down the road of anything out near the Discovery Schools or the elementary out by the airport? Very good possibility, but the airport's on our jurisdiction. Okay, it's not in the city, but we have school. Obviously we do have a school there. But everybody there, we do not have any additions and walked to the school everybody's brought in by the accord bus. Okay. Well, in order to establish the, to have that type of system, you would have to come back in just because you adopt this ordinance doesn't mean that now you could put these systems in place wherever you want. You have to establish a need for them in whichever area or whichever schools on it. It has to be established and maintained as a school zone pursuant to chapter 316 in order for this statute to even be applicable. So that's one and then two in order to have them located in different locations, you will either have to amend this ordinance or bring a new ordinance and establish the need for it. So like the chief was telling you that he's already evaluated data, facts and data that are relevant to this one particular location and that public hearing and second read, you'll hear additional supporting evidentiary, you have documentation and testimony that supports the need, you'll have to have that for each location. And last question, if I'm correct, currently do we have signs that say that the fine doubles? I know I've seen it in some cases but the fine is out there. The time you see those in, you see it in but we do have signs where you're talking about school zones and construction zones. Yes sir. Yes sir. And so would that change the fine or it's going to be a 500 if it's so so you deal is we certainly wouldn't put somebody through double jeopardy. Most of the time if you if you wrote somebody doing 15 over or even 11 over a school zone you're talking into high 300 to 400 dollar is what a citation is in a school zone right now. I just just wondered because you know you get on outside the 35 mile or where it picks up to 45. That's their green flag. This is a supplemental method too. So Chief still has the option of issuing a uniform traffic citation which is different from a notice of violation that we would be using to magistrate for. So it's not exclusive to one methodology. So depending on the gravity of the infraction, I'm sure the chief would be able to determine what the most appropriate mechanism to enforce would be. Okay. So basically what you're saying, if we were sitting there with a radar, our own, and we got them at 20 mile over speed limit so that them get a hundred dollar ticket we could issue them the twenty dollar over but we're certainly going to make sure that they're not getting both. The other thing is that I should have mentioned is that the company does record all the stuff we actually are the ones that say yes or no so they send us what the violations are and individually every single car that gets that citation has been approved by one of our officers. OK. Great. I'm done. Are there any questions from our visitors here? OK. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you for your consideration on this. Thank you, too. And I can attest to him being out there and I've witnessed people going over 11 miles an hour. So is he? And he's been there. Yeah. Thank you, Chief. Okay. So, do we have any further, are there any comments from anybody or any questions again just make sure I've not necessarily for the chief for the commission Seeing none are there any commission comments Mr. Mayor like to make a motion that we approve ordinance 1540 dash 24 schools on speed enforcement from the first reading second Okay, with the motion second all in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? No opposed. Therefore the motion is carried. Okay. Resolution 1524. SRF water plant construction loan. And I'd like city attorney to read resolution 1524 into the record. Thank you Mayor. Thank you Mayor. Resolution 15-24. A resolution of the city commission of the city of Lake Alfred Florida relating to the state revolving fund loan program making findings authorizing the loan application for the drinking water state revolving fund construction project DW530510, providing for the incorporation of recitals, authorizing the loan application, establishing pledge revenues, designating authorized representatives, providing assurances, providing for administrative correction of scrivener's heirs, providing for conflict, providing for severability, and providing for an effective date. Okay, and like that, the city manager now, to present the analysis, please. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. For the past several years, the city has presented in the Capitol Improvement Program the opportunity to construct an additional water plant. The current plant was originally constructed in the 1940s and is the city's only water plant. The ground storage tank adjacent to the plant was built in the 1970s. The new water plant would provide needed resilience and redundancy in the water system, which is a common practice in municipal. Municipalities, our size, are even smaller. These proposed resolution approves the construction loan application for funding through the state revolving fund. The chart that's embedded in the analysis kind of shows you where we are in the process. So this is the resolution authorizing the construction loan application. The drinking water facilities program through SRF allows for principal forgiveness associated with the debt obligation on the plant. The engineering consultant believes that we should be eligible for, it says 50 percent, but we got it up to 60, didn't we John? Yeah, so 60 percent forgiveness on the loan. The amount of principal forgiveness would be known before committing to the construction. Since we've already locked in at the 60% on the preceding phases we will look to keep that going at the current threshold. Staff recommendation is for approval of resolution 1524 and when you can get 60% back on potentially a $17 million asset, you take that deal whenever you can get it. This will also happen. Clifton and John have been doing keeping me up to date and I've also updated the commission. We will occasionally get pressure concerns and questions in the area and a lot of it has to do with the new growth but just with the drought conditions that we recently experienced, everyone's got to run in their irrigation and their water. You know, we at our peak, I think we're hitting right around 1.71.8 million gallons per day and based on what they were telling me, about a million of those gallons for the whole day was coming out in about a two hour period between like 6 a.m. and 8 a.m. So you know, everyone's irrigation is rolling, everyone's taking a shower, getting ready, and I've heard different Facebook posts or people that were calling. So we've made some interim adjustments here with the tower and the high service pumps to kind of patch us through, but the long-term solution is getting this new plant online in the northern section there where we purchased the land. So staff recommendation again on this item is for approval of resolution 1524. Staff would be happy to answer any questions. John, if you would, could you give us an update after we approved this and assuming that we get the green light from SRF, when do we then, you know, go out to big? Because this is for the construction process or the construction loan. What's our timeline then? Assuming we get the green light to bid it out and get the ball rolling on construction. John, the public works director, I don't see this going. Construction starting much before probably November. And that's if we can get this thing out in the next two months and get it bit out. It's going to take about 30 to 45 days. And then you got to abort it. And then they have to get the material ordered and start. So by the end of the year is our goal is to be under construction by the end of the year. That would be a reasonable goal. And then how long does it take to actually build the plant and get it online? If we don't have a run into any material issues about 18 months. I got. So breaking ground to begin online. Yes, and definitely not a sprint. This is a marathon, but we think that with the operational tweaks that we've done here, that will be able to, we'll catch it and stride, you know, when the new plant comes online. Question, we have to make a motion for a mount. No, this would just approve the resolution. And if the amounts, it's all rolled into that and we're applying for the loan application. So you're not going to complete it before you leave? Well, but let's simply not put it in the other situation. You'll be here. I'll put it into his PAF, you know, that he's got a disability and through. Yeah, supervises, seducillation. Supervisors is a citizen. I do have a quick motion. Is this the capabilities of this plant, you know, just phenomenally so much more efficient, everything compared to what we have before or is it just more of a duplication just to be able to do more at the same time? No, sir. With the new technology, this point will have all of the modern technology, the operator friendly screens, the new efficient VFD pumps, the whole nine yours. I mean, it's a complete upgrade of what we have. But at the same time, we're also going to do more upgrades to the existing plant to work in conjunction with the new plant to get the most optimal amount of water that we can get it you know working correctly. Okay so we'll still use both of them with this one goes online. So we'll still use the old one once this one goes online. Absolutely. We have to have the other one. It's the redundancy plan. The problem is if we walk the new one and we shut the other one down immediately we're back in the same boat we're in right now. John, what's the ground storage tank capacity of this plant versus what we're building? The current plant is a 500,000 gallon ground storage tank. The new plant will have a 750,000 gallon tank and it weeks this new tank, our tank right now is turning over four times a day. That tank we need to do the 750 gallon tank, 750,000 gallon tank. And then I have the capability of, as we grow the new plant, we can add a second, 750,000 gallon tank if needed in the future. Right, I've asked them as they're doing the design, the future proof that as much as possible, where if we need to pull the trigger on an additional phase to expand it, you know, we can. So we've we've done that and then that'll capture us. The other thing to this plant eventually will be decommissioned. We've got to build a booster station, which is basically just another kind of like mini water plant, where we've got the interconnect with the city of Winter Haven in order to take our alternate water supply because they're going to wheel it through their system and then when we do that that'll have a booster station that will provide both flow and pressure to the system and then we would have basically three plants at that time and then in the future that would allow this one to eventually decommission years down the road. And the design of this new well is, you know, as the city manager said, the future proof is, one well is the traditional well. The second well will be drilled with the ability to go back in and do a deep well and it's located without spending the extra cost. If needed in the future, if we find that's something we have to do, we're building it to protect ourselves in the future. Good. Thank you. Thank you. No, thank you. No, thank you. That's a staff recommendation on it is approval of resolution 15-24. Okay. We've already had several comments and questions officially. It's a public hearing and we'd like to have any questions that you might have if you've got any. Any questions on what the presentation was either by City Manager or Mr. Dean. Okay seeing none. Is there any commissioner comments in addition? Mr. Mayor, I'd like to move approval resolution 15-24 drinking water as our construction publication second Okay, with a motion in a second all in favor say aye. All right any opposed Okay, there's no no opposed so the motion has carried. Okay. Next item is number three resolution 1624. Eden Hills Phase 2B-Maintainments. Like the City Attorney to Read resolution 6 2016 24 into the record please. Thank you Mayor. Resolution number 16-24 a resolution of the city commission of the city of Lake Alfred Florida making findings confirming the acceptance of improvements infrastructure and dedications in favor of the public city of Lake Alfred as notated on that certain flatten titled Eden Hills Phase 2 B recorded in the office of the clerk of the Circuit Court and in Fort Poul County, Florida and flatbook 198 pages 50 through 51 of the public records of Poul County, Florida authorizing the release of the security posted to guarantee completion of infrastructure and improvements within the Eden Hills Phase 2B subdivision accepting a maintenance bond and accordance with the requirements of the City of Lake Alfred, Unified Land Development Code for certain items of infrastructure and improvements within the Eden Hills Phase 2B subdivision, providing for the incorporation of recitals, providing for conflicts, providing for severability, providing for the administrative correction of the scrutinizer's and providing for an effective date general location, southeast of Cass Road, west of Lake Eve, south of Old Lake Alfred Road, and west of County Road 557, further described as parcel 267-299-000000-33010. The area covered by this request is 27.74 plus or minus acres. Thank you, sir. And city manager, would you like to present the analysis, please? Yes, thank you, Mr. Mayor. On April 17, 2023, the City Commission approved the final flat from the applicant, Eden Hill's addition to LLC and the Eden Hill subdivision. The approximately 25 acre subdivision is located southeast of Cass Road, west of Lake Eve, south of Old Lake Alfred Road and west of county road 557. The subdivision was developed utilizing the master plan community cluster provision. The development includes 5.69 acres of open space, phase 2, B includes 70 lots, that a density of 3.72 units per developer, all acre. The construction plans were approved by the city on April 27, 2022. The city received all state permits and the site is in the final stages of construction. The developer had submitted the infrastructure estimates for completion of the infrastructure and had provided a performance bond and the amount of 120 percent of the engineers certified costs for all remaining improvements to be constructed or $123,000, $792,000. The resolution allows for the release of the performance bond and the acceptance of the maintenance bond for $151,475. The city attorney has reviewed both bond instruments. Staff recommendation on this item is to approve resolution 16-24. And staff would be happy to answer any questions. OK, this is a public meeting. Are there any public comments that would like you'd like to come up and make this time? Okay, seeing none, any city commission comments? Mr. Mayor, if there's no any comments, I'd like to make a motion that we approve. Resolution 1624, Eden Hills, Phase 2B, maintenance. Second. Could I ask a question? Sure. I didn't jump on it. I'm always wondering how this, I know this is a CDD community. Does this affect the residents more than it does the developer that I mean how does that work? Are they the ones who are? The bond is held by the initial developer. So this is really the city, because when we go through the plant process, we don't require them to have every single thing done before we go through the plat and allow them to sell lots, which not also does do it that. So that's actually us working with them. So when they come through the preliminary plat process, they can now subdivide and sell lots, but some of the infrastructure isn't complete. So we say, okay, well, you gotta do this before you're done. So we'll let you do that, but you've gotta put up a bond basically to pay the difference between the finish line and where you currently are. And so that's what this is. So they've done it and now it's basically substantively complete. And so then now we release the performance bond because they've reached substantial completion of that site. And then now we just accept like a maintenance bond. So if anything cracks or breaks or busts within the next year or however long the maintenance period is, then we make them come back and fix wear and tear items and things that broke through the maintenance. And then we staff then administratively releases the maintenance bond when that's up. But would that be transferred over to the residents at the time? So this is the infrastructure that the city, like ultimately a lot of it is stuff that we accept. I mean, there's also other infrastructure there too. So the bond, though, is issued not by the CDD. The bond is issued by the initial property owner and or developer. They're the ones that hold it. So when they're the ones that have the liability, they're the ones that are paying, you know, the fee in order to have the bond. So this doesn't really, this is in material whether it's a CDD or an HOA or anything in between. And this is not the one that's going to realign that entrance onto FI. Yeah, this is like a little baby phase. I mean, there's like, yeah, the one. How many units per year? There was 70 of them. Yeah, 70 lots. This was like a sub phase on this. So this is just a little tiny sliver of it. So we would, if we go into, as we get into like Eden Hills Phase III, where they've got like a roundabout or major infrastructure. Yeah, that's not built at the time of their preliminary plan. So this is a tiny bond, too. Like it's only $100,000. If they were to have major stuff like that, their bond might be for hundreds and hundreds of thousands, if not potentially millions, depending upon how far they're into the process. In theory, if they didn't subdivide, if they just built everything and then went to final plan, there wouldn't be any bond because everything would be done, but they don't want to do that. They want to kind of skate where the puck is going, so to speak, so that they can, and it makes sense because they can sell some lots and get some liquidity back and then reinvest that into the infrastructure. So the bond is just a financial instrument to allow them to proceed. And then the city is protected by allowing them to proceed because what could happen, and not that we ever want to be in the position of going after a bond, you know, the city attorney tells me that's a cumbersome process, but like going back to like the O-8 example, like if the bottom fell out of the market and you had bonded and there were people that had bought lots and were building homes there, then in theory the city could go after the bond in order to complete the remaining infrastructure that they had committed to. But the city is not in the business of becoming a developer. So the maintenance bond on the back end merely ensures that if there's any defects in construction or design that the maintenance or whatever repair work would be necessary would be covered. And that's for critical infrastructure and things of that nature. Thank you. Ryan, do you recall just off the top of your head, the lot sizes on these, particularly a lot of them, is curious. I think these ones are all. Yeah. I know it's a little bit better than I think it was here before. I know they're all 40s and 50s. So the same thing is basically been looking at out of it. You're never going to see a lot higher than 50 for the most part. And you're never going to, I've never seen a phase where they're all 40s either. It's usually either all 50s or you might end up with some type of hybrid between like 40s and 50s, is usually where it ends up. Since we actually approved this one, the approval was on two years ago last month. I just was curious if there was some of the similar conversations made. Yeah, this development, because it went through a couple years ago, this one went under the original code rewrite that was done back in 21 so you can see reference to the clustering provisions and things like that. Newer phases haven't they've been stuck because remember the the state changed the law on the architectural standards and nothing that nothing that hadn't already had final approval before July of 23 was able to utilize this standard. So we're taking that we're taking that code back through the planning board actually come to you all at the next meeting the master plan community provision had a code back through the planning board. It actually comes off the next meeting, the master plan community provision. Had a great presentation at the planning board last week. Got a recommendation of approval. So we'll be making that presentation. And again, the focus there with predominately on the, I'll call it meaningful open space. Because what you don't see here, what you don't see here is, you know, there's a little bit of open space over here in theory, and this is a smaller face, I'm less concerned about this one, when you've got like 200, 300 units, and you just see solid track rows, and they're like, oh yeah, we gave you this little pocket park, we gave you this little pot lot here at the end, you know, for a thousand people, and you're like, meh, you know, for a thousand people and you're like, you know, throwing a parking park here, throwing a half acre park over here, you know, that could be a two and a half acre park with the ball field, those types of things. And when we did the map on it, it's actually pretty compelling. So that'll all be, that's a sneak preview for the presentation coming up in July. But yeah, good history or good background there. I think we were still all scratching our head about CDDs, back to M2s. This one says, Eden Hills was the first CDD that came out of the gate and we've you talk about lessons learned in the city attorney and I have had many conversations and updates and so you'll see that too as a part of the new update is to really kind of you know start to solidify not only the unified land development code provisions but then really to kind of set the framework for you know what those petitioners agreements will be which gives the city potentially even more leverage you know in making sure that the design elements and the vision that the city commission has is represented in those two. So we've come a long way in a short period of time. Right. Thank you. Since we reopened for some comments, has there been any comments that were made that would require or you would like to address? Okay. Seeing none, I'm going to take another vote from the commission. Are there any further comments? Okay, I'd like to have some may to entertain a motion then please. Mr. Mayor, I'd like to make a motion that we approve Resolution 1624, Eden Hills, Phase 2D Maintenance Program. Second. Okay, with motion and second, all in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Seeing none, the motion is carried. Thank you. Okay. Items number four, five and six will all be, will read it into the record one time we will vote individually on the three items after we've gone through it. But I'm going to ask the city attorney to read resolution 1624 into the record. Now it's 1727. 17 my both my copy. Sorry. Okay. The city attorney give us a please. Thank you, Mayor. Resolution number 17-24, a resolution of the City of Lake Alfred, Florida, authorizing the execution of the updated city manager employment agreement with Ryan Levin Good, providing for conflicts and an effective date. Senator, I'd like to inform you to send it a few. Okay. So city manager, would you like to present the analysis, please? Yes sir, thank you Mr. Mayor. Under the charter, the City of Lake Alfred has three contracted employees that report directly to the city commission, which are the city auditor, the city attorney, and the city manager that operate under various service or employment agreements. The city manager's agreement was originally adopted in 2012, would be last substantive update in 2016. The agreement allows for changes to be made following the performance evaluation and in advance of the adoption of the annual operating budget. The most recent evaluation was completed in April of 2024 with an overall ranking of 4.99 out of 5. The proposed amendment updates language increases a retirement match and makes enhancements to the leave section. The City Attorney's Agreement was originally adopted in 2002 and was last updated in 2011. The Proposal Amendment updates language and rates to the contracted amount and substantively updates their representation list and allows for targeted adjustments through the budget process while continuing to receive the same cost of living increases as other employees as before. The City Auditor's Agreement operates under floor to statutes 218.391, which allows for engagement letters signed by both parties to constitute a written contract. The proposed engagement letter renews the agreement with the city auditor for five years and benchmarks increases to the annual consumer price index. The proposed agreements have been accounted for in the preparation of the fiscal year 2425 budget. Staff recommendation, requesting approval of resolution 17-24, recommending approval of the updated city attorney's agreement and recommending approval of the city auditor's engagement letter and staff would be happy to answer any questions. Okay. Just being a public meeting, we'll open it now for any comments or questions. Okay. Seeing none I'd like to open it up for the City Commissioners and your comments please. The other comment I had is this is more geared towards the City Manager. We don't want to be I know you've been here for 12 years, so I feel like we've gotten past the training ground. Yes, but we don't want to become a training ground. My other question is this, because we always do the salary studies from all around. My main concern is really just in this niche market. I want to make sure we're competitive. Of course, nobody wants to lose you as well. So I mean, taking everything into consideration, this is work, you know, beat the mark. Yeah, this is absolutely competitive. I tend to have an outside of the box perspective with some of the other provisions rather than just focusing on straight salary. I tend to look more at long-term provisions and the like, but most certainly based on everything that we've achieved together and just kind of on balance with some of the value added provisions. This is kind of an alignment with how I look at things which is long-term. Because we don't want to leave you to the beach. That's the main concern. I know you're from the beach originally, right? I grew up on the beach. The beach has got kind of a dose of crazy that most managers don't want to sign up for. So as I had suggested, Wake Alfred's been very good to me. I've raised my family here and sat down roots. My father always told me the rolling stone doesn't gather any moss. And as I've had conversations, you know, I've gotten the calls from the bigger cities over the years. And I've always resisted it because I've always enjoyed the challenges and the work that we have here. And now that it's coming, I can say, say well I don't even if I wanted a bigger city I don't even need to go to a bigger city because we're going to become the bigger city. And so as I said before if I was working on the same things that I was working on back in 2012 or 14 I might have wanted to move on at some point but at the same time I've just been adopted into the community and the conversations that were, I mean, even look at the agenda today, you know, when I first came to Lake Alfred in 2012, we had a dirt parking lot where the admin building next to it and we were so happy to get even a $15,000 pavilion put in from the CDBG grant that we cut the ribbon on it. Nowadays we're putting in world-class basketball courts, we're building $17 million water plants. Operationally this is everything that a city manager could dream of, and I wouldn't want to do it anywhere else or with anybody else. I've got a fantastic group of department heads and a fantastic supportive commission and I'm just enjoying. I'm looking forward to see what we can continue to accomplish going into the future. So yeah, I'm here for the long haul. But thank you. And we appreciate you. In any way we can tie all of the director positions in the back too. I'm just kidding. Another one I'll try at some point. No. It's never maybe Emily. I mentioned to Ryan earlier that as the city manager I couldn't love him more. But I also want to make sure that in the agreement, if you do have any reservations about anything that we are doing or that's happening, that you would let us know before there's any, you know, strategy for stress, that we want to make sure that we're pretty sure we're going to pass this agreement, but if there's anything else, and I appreciate that you have the confidence to come to us and go, hey, I'd like to have more of the leave time. Other city managers might put that out there thinking, well, if I build up my leave time and then I leave, I'm gonna get all this money. And I trust you because I know that you're gonna probably take some leave time and get relaxed and come back fresh and that's what we would like to see. It'll be a blend and I see, and you all have reached out to me individually and checked in on me, especially with everything that's gone on this year, workload, and the like. That comment right there is also part of the reason why I wouldn't want to be anywhere else but in Lake Alfred. If I were to tell my colleagues in the management profession that that's what a commissioner said at a public meeting, concerned about my well being in the lake, they would be like, how do I come to Lake Alfred? So it really is a special city. It's a special community. It's just so much different than all the stories that I hear from around the state. And most certainly I describe this as a season. We're doing good work. It's meaningful work. I think the other department heads would agree. You know, and I've said it before, we're probably putting about three years worth of work in for every year that's gone by out of coded. And I appreciate my team. They've weathered it. The City Commission has already made the investment necessary in the last budget presentation to add the additional staffing to kind of help with the workload and give us back some of our capacity to where we could even feel like we could take time. That's coming though and those certainly will look for those opportunities to cycle off and restore ourselves and rejuvenate. As I said with the water plan, it's a marathon, not a sprint. Recently it feels like we've been doing a little bit of sprinting, just with everything that's going on. But again, the team that we've got around us, we're able to do good work and meaningful work. And so, you know, the difference between, you know, burnout and just like working hard is that, are you making progress? You only really get burned out when you're not making progress. And so even though a lot of us are putting in 60, 70 hour weeks, I'm rejuvenated because we're making progress on the budget, on meaningful meaningful projects on land development amendments. And so that keeps me enthusiastic and we'll look for those opportunities to get some rest when we can, but the work itself is then motivating, I think, for all of us and especially for me. And he just said the other day, as long as the city attorney's here, I'm not leaving like Alfred. So we'll make sure that's part of the contract. So he likes Stern. Yeah. Oh. We stuck. We stuck it into the city attorney agreement that's got to be half as complex, you know, as what it has. So do we need a motion to agree each month or separate? We're going to do each one separately. Before we take that vote, I just again want to tell you that when city managers sent out his observation pretty much what he just did. It was kind of jaw dropping to see where we've come just again since COVID, but where we've come in his 12 years. And I don't need to steal any of his Sunday. He pretty much gave it. But this, with his permission, I'd like to read about three sentences. Yeah, go ahead. That kind of says all of the planning and preparation is now turning into reality. The city issued 598 new single family residential permits over the last 12 months. This is 10% of the 6,000 residential units we are anticipating over the next 10 years. Assuming three people per home and we're looking at an additional 1794 residents to be a population that was recently only 6,000 residents. I'll stop there, but we're 10% of a 10-year goal and I think we're a little bit ahead of the... And I think we're a little bit ahead of the. Yeah, the last comment I'll make, and I've talked with other colleagues around the state, and especially in Polk County, and we call it city management, but it's really, there's different levels to it. And it was most apparent to me when I went to ICMAC conference last year in Austin, and you get to interact with city managers from Ohio and Other other places And I almost compared it to like sports to where it's like, you know Sports in the southeast is a little bit different than sports elsewhere because you just you operated at a different level And when I went to the small cities presentation program about like tips and tricks and they're talking about oh make sure you put your agenda on the website and things like that and why okay we're like going back to basics here and so Florida, I4Cord or Polk County we see all the growth status of the growth stats but it creates and a challenging, but also within the challenges are the opportunities. And so that I think is what is the kind of the unique opportunity in Lake Alfred, and you've heard me say it to the commission before, and I say this even to my department heads as a mark of motivation to keep going, is that the decisions and the investments that are being made here in the next five years, most certainly the last five years and going into the next five years and ten years, that's really going to determine what like Alfred looks like for the next 50 to 70 years. So it really is a critical juncture in the city's history and glad and honored to be a part of it and anything that I can do to give back and just set us up for success. I'm happy to do it and I've got a great management team surrounding me and probably the best city commission in the state of Florida. So thank you all for your support and if I were to transcribe the meeting minutes of this meeting and send it to my colleagues and to the state, they would, their draw would probably hit the floor because it's not always like this. And you got to realize when you're a part of something special. Thank you. In that case, it's my pleasure to make a motion to approve Resolution 17-24 city manager agreement. Second, third, fourth. Okay. Motion, second, third, and everybody raising their hands. Any opposed? Okay. With motion and second, all in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion is carried. Please go in for another year. Okay, sounds good. Appreciate it. Thank you. Okay. The City Attorney Agreement, again, now we'll open the public comments and close to public comments. I don't think there's any additional comments you need to make on this one. No, I covered in the analysis. This is really just an update. The city attorney's rate is really just pegged to the employee. So anytime the cost of living adjustment is given, there's kind of updates with that. And so really the agreement is just reflective of all the cost of living adjustments that we've given since 2011 so it doesn't represent a material change and the only thing that I actually requested that they add is that it allows the commission to make targeted adjustments because sometimes the way we do the salary survey with the city the way we do the salary survey with the city, we try to keep the coal with anything a little bit on the little bit lower and then we do targeted adjustments. The salary survey that was done with the city commission issued those targeted adjustments, we don't do that for the city attorney and so over a 10-15 year period they could actually fall behind. So that just puts in authorizing language there in order to benchmark them occasionally against other consultant attorneys in the county. Okay. Okay. Well, again, this is a public meeting. So is there any comments or public comments about the number of zeros and Seth reads into the minutes every week. Okay, none being heard of, like to entertain a motion. This may or like to make a motion that we approve the city attorney agreement. Second. The motion in the second, all in favor say aye. Any opposed? The motion is carried. Thank you, sir. You want to give your speech now. It's just pleasure to hear from you. It's just pleasure to hear from you. Go for it. I'll say the same thing that I told the city managers. I'm happy. I have no complaints whatsoever with my relationship with the city of Lake Alfred. If I had to choose one municipality out of all the municipalities that I have no complaints whatsoever with my relationship with the City of Lake Alfred. If I had to choose one municipality out of all the municipalities that I have the pleasure of representing, the City of Lake Alfred has been by far the greatest pleasure for me to serve. So even if whatever the agreement reflects wasn't the case, I would never complain, nor would I want to leave. Thank you, sir. Thank you. Okay, and number six will be the City Auditor Agreement. I don't know if Ryan would like to begin adding it. They call it an engagement letter because that's just what the statutes call it. But it's basically just a five-year extension of what the auditor is already doing. He updated his rate as he mentioned before and as we've seen, the audit doesn't become any less complex. You know, the city's got more going on, so then there's more to audit and then they keep adding additional gas-beast standards. So his fee most certainly was reasonable of the amount of time and energy and effort and expertise that he puts into that. of time and energy and effort and expertise that he puts into that. Okay. So again, any comments, questions or anything from the audience? Seeing none, any commissioner comments? I wanted to say that before Mr. Brignelson, we had Mr. Nunes and the meetings just last about two and a half hours because he went through every line item and Mr. Renewsson is very succinct and he's understandable and he relates things in a way that we can understand them and we have questions he can answer. So I want to congratulate him even though he's not here on his good job Well will pass those comments on to the to the city auditor. Okay Would anybody like to entertain a motion? I'd like to make a motion that we prove the city auditor agreement engagement letter Second okay with the motion and second all in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Okay motion is carried. Okay, we'll move to item number seven PD purchase motor roll of consoles Ask city manager to present the analysis please Thinking this man the city of Lake Alfred's police department needs a new Dispatch Council due to a power surge and the new Dispatch Council Council. I keep saying Council. Council will not support the outdated Council Acts. The proposed system design is necessary for dispatch and emergency communications with the Alpaconsolet dispatch is being operated from handheld radios. The ABTECH Scout IP Dispatch Console provides a PC GUI console interface experience and is a wireless console solution utilizing three APX consoleettes for communication on the Polk County P25 radio system. The three consulates will allow for the monitoring of 3 simultaneous radio channels and can change the top group channel on the consulate from the consul GUI. The antenna line materials and installation for the 3-console-let's are also included in the proposal. For the city's procurement policy, this is considered a sole source vendor for motor roll services incorporated. Polk County Emergency Operations utilizes the motor role assist for communications, and therefore is only compatible with motor role equipment. The city was able to obtain two written quotes from motor role representative. The higher quote was for a different motor role assist that would hope directly with the county and having monthly and annual recurring fee. Staff recommendation on this item is to approve the purchase of the dispatchpatch Console for Motor Rolls-Solutions, Incorporated, and the amount of $107,000, $474,90. These things are not cheap, despite filling the space of what would be a desktop computer. Motor Roll equipment, just because it is kind of a sole source tied to county operations. There is a premium attached with it. At this time let me yield to the police chief just for additional comments. Artists spent a lot of time working through seeing if there were any options, alternatives, refurbishments. This most certainly was not the first option that we looked at. But after going through and vetting everything, this was ultimately the best option that we were left with. Chief, I'll yield to you for any additional comment or insight. Thank you, our vote, Hammer. City police for me again. So this is just to give you an idea of what happened on March 20th, somewhere between 10 and 12 at the end of that morning we had a power surge and it blew out our computer. And that computer looks like any general computer that you can see at your house or around one of our offices, however the software that goes in that computer has been around for a long time and it's no longer supported. We thought at first looking over at the day could repair that ticket computer. Once we found out about the software and no one supported it, that was an obsolete option. So of course we had to go to new. And I'm not sure if the city manager gave you all the bids that we originally got, but I just give you a quick idea. And dealing with them until you're not easy either, what you try to get done versus what they think. So we had the original bids on the same equipment that we're looking at now was $123,000. But it also had, if you read in there about the consulates, so you have a computer and you have consulates. And just explain that to you, each consulate is responsible for a different channel. So if you have three channels that you talk on, you monitor, you need a consulate for each one of them. So you have a computer and three consulates. The original bid, they thought we needed four consulates. That's why it was more costly. It also had to have different devices that attached all four of them. So we were able to go from the one twenty three down to the one of seven. I'm not too sure when you asked for a hundred and seven thousand dollars why you need to put the ninety-centle end of it, but they did. I just don't understand. Every penny chief. Every penny. So the other thing, we had another system that they also quoted on where it would directly link with the county's system and it had more availability for specialty items. That was about $114,000, and the only problem with that one is it came with an annually reoccurring fee for maintenance and upgrades because it can't get up to every two years to the tune of $10,000. Plus we would have to have another T1 line ran in here to additional monthly fee to go along with that. So when you add all this calls together, it would have been an overkill for what we need and we feel like our standalone system worked great. How old was the original console, Tf? Well, we've parted, we've had to buy some consulates so to give you an exact date, I can't tell you. But we probably somewhere 10 to 15 years old for everything that we've had in the system where we've had to replace things over the years. The other thing, I don't want to say we did our due diligence with our insurance company to try to get reimbursed for this money, but because it was an outside source, it had been our generator that turned known in out of power search. They were covered, they don't cover the outside source. We've also we've lost many things not only in my department, but others through TK with surges and even though you can report it and try to gain back, it's just not been a viable system. I'm sure some of you both in the audience and up here have had the same situation in the church houses. So the one thing that we did really looking at these things to get reduced to what we believe we needed to make sure that we had everything new going in, there will be some other cost outside of this, the city is going to spend for the cabinets and stuff where these things go into. But we have those things saved aside for that. This is kind of the main thing. We have reduced the fee also with what they were trying to put on us for maintenance fee in the first year of service where you actually have a warranty that will cover everything from top to bottom on it. And then also the reoccurring fee of every two years that the county puts on because we're standing on system. There are other, I just want to make sure that by understanding with the city managers about this being compatible with motor role equipment, there are other radio companies that would talk on the same system. However, if you had any problem with them, you're not going to get the help from the county system because it's all motor roller base and you're not you're going to be staying alone on your own which is not a good thing in a radio world. That's why we continue to use motor roller and it is a sole source thing to be countywide conglomerate with it. Chief just for some perspective too on some of the other motor roller expenses. It is a sole source thing to be countywide conglomerate with it. Chief just said for some perspective too on some of the other motor roll expenses. How much does a handheld public safety radio cost nowadays? We're probably looking at, and I think Chief Turner looked at this too, 665 for both those in, a little bit more for the car radios now and we're both right now maxed out on that with our staff. We also right now are using three different handheld radios for run those three channels to keep them up and running because this is not a radio that you go down the Walmart you know and pick off the shelf and plug in a hundred bucks or 300 bucks. Now this is a $6,500 hand-held radio. So that's that's what it cost on the hand-held and said just multiply it out for you know the consulet to be able to be the brains of the system and be able to handle the multi-frequency channels. So the expense is just astronomical. And if you look at it, you look on the supply list and you see everything that's inclusive in that bid. There's a lot of things that go with it that aren't just like we talked about, like it's four pieces of equipment. There's all kinds of foot pedal equipment, mic equipment, speaker equipment that all goes new with this system. It's all related with this system, with the software. And I've got to tell you, probably the Motorola people probably say, I didn't have a good time dealing with cheap load number, but I just feel like if you don't ask these people questions and you don't hold them to the fire, you will be taking advantage of. I did have some tough conversations with them and use it one person sometimes. It was three or four of them in a big circle that they just went, I don't know, we'll find out. Now, Steve, are we making investments in advance or protection just to try to insulate from this happening again? We are, and if you'll see on the last page of that bid, it talks about the, not on the very last page, but on the second page where it talks about what Lake Alfred will supply. You'll see mandated trip lights, smart protectors. You'll also see additional grounding that we're going to put in to this board and to the rack that will be holding this equipment. And it will go hand in hand with what we already have, but it enhances that much more for this. And all this was in the dispatch area. Correct. Actually, this will actually do some of the things we have in dispatch right now, because of the consulates and the actual what I'm going to call the computer, we'll go in our server room. And some of the wiring that we have now that's all underneath and stuff that will be run overhead and part of the stuff that you see on there we will actually do in house to supply those tunnels for those wires to go through. Very good. So staff recommendation on this item is to approve the purchase of a Dispatch the purchase of a dispatch console from Motorola Solutions, and the amount of $107,474.90. Again, per the procurement policy, this is considered sole source, just for the compatibility with the county systems. And then additionally, also an emergency purchase are trying to massage it as much as we could, though we are in need of this equipment. So we need to order it. And there's a lead time with it too, that chief, right? Yeah, I guess, and last and should have said, if we order this tomorrow morning, they're telling me five to six months before it's in house in service. Again, and I want to, and I told chief, I go, you know, you send 107,000, you expect like, you you know Cadillac, you know next day delivery, you know, white glove, set up, and the like, but apparently we got a weight five for six months with this thing. Where's the money coming from? This is just because this is kind of just an emergency purchase. This really just has to come out of emergency reserves, general fund reserves. Now we were running hot in terms of like revenue and things coming up, so we'll probably be able to absorb this and stride, but yeah this is just coming out of fun balance. For purposes of procurement, the sole source is an exception to your procurement requirements, given the highly specialized nature of the device as well as the services it does qualify as a sole source and I think it does. It goes about saying even receiving bids which the city was not obligated to do given the nature of the purchase that the source would be an exception to the procurement requirements and that would be I just want the record to reflect that it is soul source purchase. I also, we were misafided in the mentioned AB from Pope Kennedy Radio Shop. He came over twice, went over the stuff with me the first time, and we talked really about what our needs were here and what he thought professionally that he's responsible for the whole county. So I have to say, Q-d's to him for that assistance coming back the second time with Motorola and having those questions too that I had or might not have had that he was able to ask and get that taken care of. Any questions of Chief? Okay. Thank you, Chief. Okay. Any questions from the audience? This is a public hearing and this is your chance to ask a question if you've got anything on that particular item. Seeing none, any city commission comments you'd like to make? Mr. Mayor, I'd like to make a motion that we approve the PD purchase of the Motorola consoles of the amount 107474 and 96 second This motion and the second all in favor say aye. All right. You opposed Okay, the motion is carried Call is tomorrow correct Okay. In our last item for this evening is item number eight, fur, Wegman and banks task order number two, bank renovation. Turn them over. Yes, I'll turn that over to you, city manager for your analysis, please. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. The city executed a continuing services master professional engineering services agreement with fur, weggman and banks on February 15th of this year. The proposed task order provides architectural services for phases two and three and the bank bill for the bank building renovation. Phase two is for the construction documents, which will be utilized for contractor bidding, and Phase three includes the submission of the building permits and ultimately construction of the project. The scope of services for this project includes the architectural design for the plumbing, mechanical, and electrical. There will be coordination services provided with the site design for the new vehicle connection from the bank's existing parking lot to the city commission building along with the new pedestrian ADA accessible route connection which will be performed by a civil engineer selected by the city. The landscaping irrigation will be performed in-house by city staff. The proposed task order has a cost of 59,500 with the option of construction administration has requested by the city. $80,000 was set aside in the current year budget for design with 80% of the funding coming from restricted permit fees and the remaining 20% from general fund and police and back fees. Staff recommendation on this item is to approve task order number two with furrow, weggman, and banks in the amount of $59,500 for the redesign of the bank building. We're getting a really good firm to help us with these different facilities. This will be the same firm that Dead. These are the architects. So we're getting a really good firm to help us with these different facilities. This will be the same firm that you'll see a task order for eventually on the library expansion and things like that. The concession building for Central Park. So we'll be utilizing their services for the foreseeable future. On the overhead, that's really just a representation of kind of the layout of what we're looking to achieve with the bank building. If you've got any perspective, if you remember being on the inside of it, this area here was actually all open. There was a separating wall. Let's see, right in this area here, that area was kind of sectioned off, so if you've ever been in the bank, and then you can actually access it from this side here. Well, we're going to open up the hallways, and then in the inside area, this space used to be open, so we'll convert that into a counter space and then offices, and then there'll be internal offices here and then along the side. So that will really kind of future proof that space and get us a lot of utility out of it. The goal would be to put building services over there, potentially finance. And then that will give us kind of the breathing space that we need for expansion and administrative offices. And then they'll kind of connect the two parking lots. So right now we've already have like police that are kind of parked there on the side. We've got staff parking there to allow more space kind of in the admin parking lot. But we'll actually look to conjoin those two parking lots and then kind of flow through it and then that way it will kind of be integrated space between admin, PD and then the bank building. So we'll kind of weave it all together and as soon as they get designed on we'll look forward to putting this out to dead in construction and then tackle that going into the remainder of this year and then into next because we need the space. And so staff will be happy to answer any questions and the recommendation is to approve the task order. Okay. Okay. Is there any public comments you'd like to make? Any questions of the city manager? Seeing none, I will open it for city commission comments. I just have one brief comment as we're there's a lot of these buildings we've had for a long time. I know the you know the future of this is one of the probably first buildings that were kind of retrofitting that are we considering you know the future with electric cars and everything possibly putting some things in? First I have to take advantage of so that lens is gonna on any new facility Expansion or renovation that we do and I've had these conversations before I know vice mayor Dale He's been a big proponent of that as well as we look to do major renovations at facilities We will look to integrate those EV chargers in park spaces, city facilities and the like. And we've looked at different grant programs and things like that but it's just something that we can capture. Winner Havens installed some of them by their Chamber of Commerce building and we've got like different concepts so yeah we'll look to integrate that in all major major expansions and or renovations going forward. Okay. And then I understand you, the draw up to nothing joins, but the layout is kind of like what we're wanting to do with the downtown overlay of walkability openness. Yeah, so we'll connect, like, we'll try to connect the admin and the bank building here. So this here is like kind of like the side entrance. Right. If you got it, that would be, and then admin's kind of up here. We've got a back door that kind of goes out of the conference room in admin. And so we would actually try to turn that into like a breeze way that would connect across so to integrate it you know for staff or people kind of coming back and forth and then integrate the parking lots as well so yeah we'll kind of iron out the details with the design but in that way public safety gets a lot more utilization so we would connect the parking lot that's like here, we would connect that over to the public safety side, and then that way they would have kind of that for theirs. And then the parking lot that's in front of the bank, we would connect that with the admin lot, and then that way admin and this building would have like an integrated parking lot, and then you could go through, you could pull into the bank building down here and then and then drive up. So as those concepts and things come forward, I'll update the commission just so that you guys can see the latest and greatest. But yeah, we're we're beyond as much as I hate to say it, you know, we're beyond, you know, John and I pencil and stuff on the on the back of a sheet the sheet of paper. I'm like, oh yeah, it looks pretty good. Although I will say that's kind of what we did to even get them to this point. So it's still not a dead art, you know, we're still going to utilize the back of the napkin sketches to, you know, give us a head start and then we'll let them pretty it up and permit it and design it. We're going to keep that option. We might have, I don't know if we'll use the monadic tubes all the time, but although we will kind of maintain that system, but they do have kind of like the old bank deposit, you know, window on the side there where you could do it. You know, we, and so it's kind of designed that way. If you see, this will be the counter space, which will face so that people will walk in here from the main entrance. And then they'll have counter space here. But you'll notice we kept the counter space right by the window access. So we'll have dual purpose. If we ever have another shutdown type of situation in theory, we could run the entire operation from here if we needed to close down. That would have been great if we had had that optionality during COVID but we will maintain this and keep it operational although I would assume the bulk of it would probably just be walking traffic. But then we would integrate permitting here too. So a lot of times what happens is especially for folks that are, you know, business permits or building permits and the like, they've got to keep going back and forth across the street. Oh, you got to, I'm here to pull my permit. Well, you got to have your utility account over and then you go over here. Now we'll have a permit tech and a utility billing specialist there. So it's turnkey. So really 95% of your public interactions, that people walk in and off of the street, they're either trying to pay their water bill, or they're trying to deal with the permit or the like, and then we can one stop, shop, and rather than, you gotta go across the street and come back in the light. So that'll be a real, that'll be a customer service improvement with how we've got that set up. Okay. So good. Anybody else? Miss motion? Madam, Mr. Mayor, I'd like to make a motion that we approve for our wedding and bank's task order number two in the bank renovation for the amount of 59,500. Second. Motion in the second. All in favor say aye. And any opposed? Motion has carried. And that completes that presentation. Okay. So, this brings us to our recognition of citizens. Again we do this at the end of each meeting. You've had any questions that you've held for the evening or you something's come up and you thought of it. If we have the first one please feel free to come up and give us your name and your address and you've got five minutes so anybody want to come up and do that? Chief. Hi, Vice-Man. Since you talked about this before, in case anybody up there in the audience wants to know, the autonomous vehicle summit will be set 4 through the 6th in Tampa. If you're interested in learning about that, you can go online. If you might like to contact me and I'll send you a link how to register to it. And it's $650 to $700 to attend it. If you get on the early bird special, I'm sure the after bird special. But that should be quite interesting and just to let you all know we have semi-s in the state of Florida that have been probably been running for almost four years through autonomous tests on some of our interstates. So this is the problem you talked about about crashes. What happens with them has been on well enforcement's eyesight for several years now in the committee chair. And so this is just something that would be interesting to see of what things are happening, but that's the dates if you might want to spread the information on it. I just got that four-king commission meeting. Thank you, sir. Any other comments? Okay. We'll wrap it up here then with Commissioner Questions and Comments. Commissioner, you lead it off tonight. Thank you, Mayor. I hope everybody had a happy Father's Day. As always, I want to thank both Chiefs of the Bank. Thank you for your service. Thank all the first responders and staff. You guys are all doing a great job. I appreciate the Mayor doing the proclamation for Juneteenth and I also thank Chief for his role in the school's own state enforcement. I didn't have one question about that. I know we're doing the raised road part by the actual school. Is there potential to put, you know, because I'm picking up just putting those cameras as close to the school as possible, you know, might be beneficial as well? Or are we just going to do the right use of intersexuality how that works first and then? We're leaning on design improvements, because we don't have any control over the FDA key. We're going to lean much more on design to control speed on city roads, at least at this point. Something, I don't know if you mentioned it or not, but part of it is we're looking at different like flock cameras, which are kind of like the tag readers and things like that around the city. But we would put those like in key bottleneck areas where we get a lot of like through traffic. And that's more for general law enforcement activities. But to answer your question, Commissioner Eden, we're going to lean on the design components there. Now if we see that that raised intersection isn't doing enough or people are speeding up to it before they slow down just to speed as they get past it. That's when we come in and we put other design features, you know, 20, 30, 40 yards down the way to keep them honest. So we'll layer in on that as needed. Thank you. Vice Mayor Dele. It's been pretty busy. Last couple weeks we had a TPO meeting and an MPO combined meeting in VARTO this past week. We also attended the grand opening of the Wildlife Underpass at I-4 and the Halucci Reserve, which was really interesting, the pictures of the animals that have already been accessing that. But we have to remember it goes both ways. So it's not only just the animals on this side going away, it could bring some other animals from there on this side. So just need to be diligent, keep our eye out, and make sure that everybody stays safe. I just wanted a quick update from our city attorney's office about the Form 6 Form 1 situation that is the Form 1 ready to be done electronically. And do we know what the outcome will be now that the judge has put an injunction on it for now? Is it going to be that temporary or how is that work? It's a temporary preliminary injunction that does enjoy statewide application of Form 6 or the elected officials of the state of Florida. The injunction is statewide as compared to being plaintiff specific. There was over 127 individually named plaintiffs in the preliminary injunction suit and this was in federal court by the way. So with the entry of the order granting the preliminary injunction suit and this was in federal court by the way. So with the entry of the order granting the preliminary injunction, that is the first step. Based on the comments from counsel, we do not anticipate that they are going to file an appeal of that preliminary injunction, but there is still a long way to go before there is a permanent injunction in place. But as of right now, I believe, if you go to electronically file, a Form 1 will auto-populate. So they cannot, I say they've the state cannot require you at this point in time to file a Form 6 as an elected official or other agent of the local government if previously you had file a Form 1. But it is the beginning. Arguments were, I feel that our side, on the municipal side, the arguments were very good. There were a few elements of the case that, or the argument that did, they were not specific as to which way they would fall as related to the type of scrutiny that's going to be applied to this when the permanent injunction is sought. So there's exacting scrutiny and then there's strict scrutiny and I don't want to go down the rabbit hole and that's how it would put everybody to sleep. But arguments were good the preliminary injunction was granted and so right now you should be able to auto populate a form one. And that should be at least until the following July because we don't have a requirement between now and then. Or can they just pop up and say, okay, Christmas time you have to do one? Well, it depends on whenever the permanent injunction is going to be, when the argument's going to be heard. Now, I believe after another couple of weeks, we have 30 days to appeal the entry of the preliminary injunction. And that, I think, was entered on June 3rd. So 30 days would first have to elapse. Once that appeal period has passed or told, then they'll set a hearing on the permanent injunction. But it could happen before a year's time. Thank you. That's all I have. Thank you. Let's see. It's all I have. Thank you. Let's see. It's my turn here. First of all, I want to thank everybody. Nice to have everybody in the audience tonight. And we didn't see a lot of people jump up and run. So that was great. Great to have everybody sit through. Thank you again for coming in this evening. And it was a pleasure to be able to present you with that proclamation and thank you again for all your services here. Want to recognize Mr. Maltz be in the crowd. It's a pleasure to see you, sir. We've been keeping you keeping you in our prayers here. You've had a kind of a tough, tough go here the last few weeks, but we've been praying for you and watching out for you and we're glad to see you here sir. Thanks all the Directors all the people in the back row that keep us running everything Ryan talked about tonight certainly reflects on Everybody that that does work in conjunction or in harmony with our city manager and we're just so blessed to have everybody all on that same page. I can't tell you how happy I am to be sitting here with the people that we work with every day and this. I think the city is quieting down from a certain perspective. I think a lot of people see that we're going to face the pains of growth but they you know, I think a lot of people see that, you know, we're gonna face the pains of growth, but they, you know, if we attack it right, and that attacks might not even be the right word, but it's just inevitable. It's inevitable. And you have to look up and down I-4, and you see this is about the last spot on the trail that's gonna give people that opportunity to, you know, to land here and then if you work in our land or Tampa you're going to have probably your best opportunity here to have a good lifestyle and hopefully it's affordable living conditions and again I've got to thank our Police Chief Fire Services everybody that makes living in Lake Alfred just a pleasure. And so I want to thank them all again for that. Having an opportunity was out at the Hello Chi ribbon cutting with Vice Mayor Dehli and and Sue manager and I and they pushed the time back to 11 o'clock and it's quite a bit hotter at 11 than it would have been at 9. But it was a good presentation. We had people from Tallahassee or FEMA representatives. No, excuse me, F.Dot. We had commissioners or a we had a state representative there so real well documented we made the winner haven paper so everybody was excited about that. Every daily and I had an opportunity or vice mayor daily excuse me had an opportunity to attend the bridge league dinner the other night in Davenport. And again, we continue to be excited about the potential of maybe someday having a place like that to have our own. So we're excited about that. We were the only city commissioner, you know, elected officials at our table, we were sitting all with other other people and I don't know if I spent a day with, would agree with, I know she'll agree with me whether she'd like to make a comment but we had a guy there trying to sell us his services and how he could help us finance a water plant do all this and Nancy said, well, you know, we got all that stuff under control and he kept pushing, pushing, pushing. She says, we're debt free. And that's not possible. Oh yeah? Oh yeah. And so I just sat back and watched that and it was great. It just does go to show you that we've got the right component right here that just you know he's gonna spend as we go and you know if you're a kid and you did the right thing you're gonna get the right kind of choice for Christmas we'll have some utility side debt but no no general phone down but when you're getting 50-60 cent of you know principle forgiveness on it you know it makes forgiveness on it, you know, it makes it manageable. It was interesting to see he just couldn't get over the fact that we did run at the straight right now. I told him, I said, we are at the bottom of the chart, which normally everybody think that's bad, but that's good in this particular case on the base on the cost for resident of, you know, and how much we have invested and so forth. So it was a good, good meeting, good dinner there and got a meeting tomorrow night over at the RP funding for the, the Hall of Fame enshrinement for the Pope Hall of Fame sports. So be looking forward to that. So I don't have anything else. Commissioner, dear man, Mr. Mayor, I just want to commend all of you for the service and work that all of us have done in city manger 12 years ago. I remember the day you were sitting right there at that table. It's went by fast, but he had hair and it was brown. But I just applaud you for your staff, your commitment to the betterment of Lake Alfred and all of you up here have been special to me and to the city and just want to give you a applaud. And I thank you. That's all I have. Thanks, Mr. Mayor. There's nothing else. I'll hammer it in at 902. Thank you for coming, Seagun.