231 LOWER PAXTON TOWNSHIP BOARD OF SUPERVISORS Minutes oft the meeting held on February 11, 2025 A workshop meeting oft the Lower Paxton Township Board ofSupervisors was called to order at 7:02 p.m. by Vice Chair Judd on the above date at the Lower Paxton Township Municipal Center, 425 Prince Street, Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. The supervisors present, in addition to Mr. Judd, were Paul W. Navarro, Pamela Thompson, and Allen J. McCormack. Also in attendance were Bradley Gotshall, Township Manager; Sam Miller, Assistant Township Manager/Finance Director; Amanda Zerbe, Community Development Director; Nick Gehret, Planning & Zoning Officer/Codes Enforcement Officer Zoning Officer; Rachelle Scott, Parks & Recreation Director, Adam Kosheba, Public Safety Director, Brett Graham, Deputy Chief, Bureau of Fire, Autumn Lupey, Lieutenant, and Morgan M. Madden, Solicitor. Pledge of Allegiance Mr. McCormack led the Pledge of Allegiance. Public Comment Cheryl Thompson, 110 Memorial Drive, Amber Fields, complained that no one came to plow the snow in her development, but her neighbor's son, who has a business, plowed the snow. She noted that a few streets in the development were icy. Mr. Judd asked Mr. Gotshall if the Township plows during ice storms. Mr. Gotshall explained that the Township staff treat the roads during an ice storm; they do not plow. Ms. Thompson asked Mr. Gotshall to look into the matter. Eric Epstein, 4100 Hillsdale Rd, provided an update on the Central Dauphin School District, noting that the district will introduce a full-day kindergarten in 2026. 1 232 Mr. Epstein stated that Central Dauphin traverses 2.3 million miles a year, and it is the only large school district that is also rural and suburban. He empathized with the woman who complained about the roads, noting that whenever the school buses are late for their route, they also hear from constituents. The CD School District hopes to address the issue of six elementary schools without air conditioning and plans to provide air conditioning to two of these schools. The CD School District has just floated a bond for $ 36 million to introduce full-day kindergarten. The following schools are at capacity: Central Dauphin, Central Dauphin East, Linglestown Middle School, and West Hanover. They hope to increase the amount ofroom available by introducing full-day kindergarten. Next year, the school plans to hire 6 to 31 new teachers for autism support,22 percent of the students have an IEP. The world has changed, and the challenges have changed, and he would like to keep the chain of communication open with the Township. There are 14,200 students, and 7% are in placement. The school now offers free and reduced breakfast and lunch to students. So, the school district transports the kids, nourishes them, and teaches them. He announced that he is the Chairman of Finance on the Central Dauphin School District's Board, and the district will pay $ 18 million for charter schools, which is 7% of the budget. Mr. Epstein provided his contact information (717) 635-8615, advising residents to contact him with any concerns. Ms. Thompson asked Mr. Epstein to clarify the percentage of students in Charter School. Mr. Epstein corrected the statement, noting that 7% of the students are in placement. Dr. Charles Stuart, CEO and chairman ofthe Board for the Harrisburg Police Athletic League (HAPAL), announced that they introduced this program to the community about eight months ago; it's a mentoring program for kids through sports and education. 2 233 Dr. Stuart encouraged the community to visit the organization's website to learn more about the program. The organization had recently acquired the property at 100 Elmwood Dr., which had been abandoned for approximately six years. The electricity was cut off, and rats were hanging from the ceiling. He and his wife worked on the project for about two years. No one had any idea the building existed, and they couldn't obtain any information about it. With Adam Kosheba' S help and his staff, they have cleared out the mess. The HAPAL group invested $100,000k into the property. Recently, he received a letter from the Township about the stormwater runoff. He said no one cared about the building, and he was not going to pay anyone else's bills. Today, he received a certified letter stating that the bill would be sent to collections. He said that he would not pay the bill. HAPAL came to the community and brought something great; they stopped crime and brought baseball back. Mr. Judd informed Dr. Stuart that someone from the Township would be in touch as soon as possible. William Bill Miller, 4311 Crestview Dr., commented about the recent storm, noting that he traveled through the Township to check the sidewalks at Best Buy, Weis, and Giant and found that they weren't cleared. He suggested that the Township notify the commercial properties. He added that people have a right to walk on a safe sidewalk; there's a problem, and it needs to be fixed, and it starts with the schools. He offered to give the information to Mr. Gehret. Chairman & Board Members' Comments Ms. Thompson presented a survey to the community, noting the issues at the Hodges Heights Compost Facility, as reported by the residents. 3 234 Ms. Thompson asked the community, "How many people would be okay or happy to have a landfill and compost site in your residential community by show ofhands?" She noted that it was also done on January 14, 2025. There was no response from the community. Ms. Thompson commented on the current status of the Board and provided a written draft. See the attached statement. Allen McCormack stated that he had been on the Board for a short time, having replaced Mr. Zoumas, and Robin Lindsey was very kind to him. She helped him get the job and took extra time to show him the ropes. However, there were several accusations hurled at the Manager, and during the time he has been on the Board, the Manager has been exceedingly professional and responsive to every request. Seeing people in this room is heartwarming; the Supervisors represent the people. He announced that he has 55,000 bosses. He said, "I mean that sincerely, only with your input, only with your participation, only with your voices being heard will this group of! people know how to represent you effectively. I want you all to give yourselves a round of applause because you're being here this evening is important to the effective management of this Township." Public Comment Joe Lindsey, 6244 Overview Lane, asked Mr. Judd ifthey had planned to read Robin Lindsey's resignation letter that was submitted to the Board. Mr. Judd replied, no. Mr. Lindsey announced that he was going to read Mrs. Lindsey's resignation letter because he didn't want rumors dispelled about his wife. He thanked Ms. Thompson for being the only one who responded to Mrs. Lindsey after receiving the letter ofresignation. He read Mrs. Lindsey's letter of resignation. 4 235 Mr. Lindsey commented on the reasons his wife decided to resign from the Board of Supervisors, noting that the people, employees, and first responders are losing their voice in the Township. Cheryl Thompson, 110 Memorial Drive, announced that she has been attending the Board meetings for eight months and is upset by what she has seen. She suggested that the Board members go on a retreat to learn how to work better together for the benefit ofthe people oft the Township. Charles Stuart said he has lived in the community for over 21 years and has known Lindsey's for a very long time. They have done a lot for the youth and kept them out ofthe system. He would like to attend more meetings to stay informed. He congratulated Ms. Thompson on becoming the first African American woman to serve on the Board ofSupervisors. He announced that he would miss Mrs. Lindsey, and that Adam Kosheba was a great guy. Eric Epstein, 4100 Hillsdale Rd., stated that the community is seeking stability and resolution to a problem. He's lived in the Township for 59 years and had great experiences growing up and attending school. The Township is losing a jewel, and you don't replace that kind of community, knowledge, experience, or dedication. He commented on Mrs. Lindsey's ability to follow through on constructive issues and resolve problems, referencing multiple land development plans and projects they had worked on together in the past. The most recent initiative was to open a Community Garden at E.H. Phillips. He suggested naming the Community Garden after Robin Lindsey. He pointed out that the community has always been able to work well with Amanda, Nick, George, and Adam. Still, it has been a bumpy relationship with this young man. He suggested that the Supervisors acknowledge and address it because you must return messages and interact with the public. 5 236 Mr. Epstein said maybe there's room for growth, but there's a world of difference between George Wolfe and the current management. He has been on dysfunctional boards but can't say whether this Board is dysfunctional or functional. However, the fact that it left Mrs. Lindsey feeling like she had to resign is tragic. He suggested that the Supervisors honor Robin Lindsey and use this opportunity to find a constructive way forward and reexamine how to treat constituents, as things must change. Jay Purdy, 4731 Duke St., asked the Solicitor if the Board of Supervisors could refuse to accept Robin Lindsey's resignation. Morgan Madden explained that the Board vacancy rules are set forth in the Second-Class Township Code. Once it is tendered, the only person who can revoke it is the person resigning, and the resignation must be withdrawn before it is accepted. John Packer, 5723 Kenwood Ave., said he has been to several Board meetings to address sewer issues, and Robin Lindsey was the only one who reached out and came to his neighborhood. There were some issues directed at Mr. Gotshall, and he was never satisfied with the answers he received. The Township is losing the most responsive Supervisor, and it's the second Supervisor to resign in the past 50 days. There have been accusations, causes, and effects as to why. He asked who would determine the facts because it appears that an internal investigation isn't feasible. He stated that some ofthe accusations require further investigation. Mr. McCormack announced that he has responded to every citizen who has reached out to him, usually on the same day he was asked. Marissa White, 6702 Delana Blvd., stated that she sent emails to all the Supervisors on January 18th, 22nd, and 23rd, and Robin Lindsey was the only one to respond. Mr. McCormack explained that he did not receive the messages from Ms. White and apologized. 6 237 Ms. Thompson added that a resident shared with her that they were writing to the Supervisors and hadn' 't received a response. She recalled a resident sharing with her back in 2023 that they had sent an email to the Supervisors and never received a response. She remembered when Mrs. Lindsey inquired about the emails during an executive session because people were telling her they sent her messages, too. Ms. White asked Mr. Judd ifthe Supervisors were in charge of Mr. Gotshall. Mr. Judd replied that it was correct. Ms. White asked why everything came from Mr. Gotshall. Mr. Judd explained that Mr. Gotshall is the day-to-day Manager, and the Supervisors are part-timers. Generally, he would have the information that someone is seeking, and it's not a matter of seeking his permission. Ms. White expressed that she thinks Mr. Gotshall is dismissive, and the public has collectively stated the same. She suggested that the Supervisors review his position and call him to task. Joseph Lindsey stated that Mrs. Lindsey was chastised by the Manager for going out to Mr. Packer's neighborhood. Mr. Lindsey noted that, in his 42 years of public service as an elected official and Police Officer, this is the worst Board and Management the Township has ever had. The people are not here to cause problems; they are here because they want to solve problems, and it's about time the Board took action against management. Ms. Thompson responded to Ms. White's and Mr. Lindsey's comments by reading a written statement regarding the follow-up on a recommendation from an attorney hired to investigate an anonymous complaint. This attorney recommended that the Township create a remote work policy for the Board to review. 7 238 Action to Accept the Resignation ofRobin Lindsey from the Board of Supervisors Mr. McCormack motioned to accept the resignation of Robin Lindsey from the Board of Supervisors. Mr. Navarro seconded the motion. Mr. Judd called for a voice vote. Mr. Navarro, aye; Mr. McCormack, aye; Mr. Judd, aye; and Ms. Thompson, nay. The vote was 3:1, approving the acceptance of Robin Lindsey's resignation. Second Presentation ofOrdinance 2025-01 Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance Amendment Mr. Gotshall noted that Mr. Staub ofHRG, the intended presenter, was unable to attend this evening. However, Amanda Zerbe, Director, and Nick Gehret will present what Mr. Staub had intended to present. This is the second presentation, as noted on the agenda. The Supervisors had heard this presentation in some fashion at the last workshop meeting. The Planning Commission has voted not to recommend that the Board of Supervisors adopt Ordinance 2025- 01. This evening's presentation of the Zoning Ordinance relates to both the process and the product as it pertains to the next steps in this lengthy process. Mr. Judd announced to the neighbors present, particularly regarding the zoning in the Claremont neighborhood, that the Planning Commission voted not to recommend that the Supervisors approve the changes. There is no majority support on the Board to pursue a comprehensive change that includes the Claremont change. The Supervisors will communicate to the Planning Commission to send a Comprehensive Zoning Plan that does not involve changing the Commercial Neighborhood (CN) or Commercial General (CG) aspect of the plan. Mr. Gotshall explained that if the Board does not move forward with the drafted Ordinance now, then the staff's recommendation is to kick it back to the Planning Commission to thoroughly vet any remaining issues that exist. This would take a couple of months before coming back to the Board ofs Supervisors. 8 239 Marissa White stated that she sent an email to the Supervisors on January 22, 2025, and received a response from Mr. Gotshall stating that her notes would be forwarded to the Department of Community Development to be included in the record for the zoning proposal. Ms. White said the notes were not included in this evening's agenda. Mr. Gotshall explained that the written comments were not included in the public agenda; however, the notes were forwarded to the Department of Community Development to be included in the public record. Mrs. Zerbe added that Ms. White's comments were included in the Planning Commission's packet before their meeting, and the Supervisors will have it before the Public Hearing. George Palmer, 6480 Lyters Lane, announced that he's present on behalf of the Palmer Foundation, which owns a track next to Trinity Church. He attended the last Planning Commission meeting and received some mixed signals, SO he wanted to get some clarification. He wanted to know ifit would take 45 days' notice to come up with a new plan. Mrs. Zerbe confirmed the 45-day notice. Mr. Palmer noted that there was an error in the zoning because Trinity Church is in an R1 zone, and it should be in an Institutional zone. He suggested that corrections be made before the Township proceeds with the process, as the foundation is not interested in revisiting individual zoning; they would like it to be addressed at this time. He asked the Supervisors if they really wanted a CCRC in the area. Mr. Gotshall asked Mr. Palmer to provide a briefindication of what he was looking for. Mr. Palmer explained that he had bought the tract ofland 20 years ago, intending to do things for the community, but it hadn't worked out. He noted that every Supervisor Had agreed on the project at the meeting, which was initially hostile. Yet, every one oft them had voted it down. Mr. Palmer explained that he didn't want to go through the aggravation again. 9 240 Mr. Palmer explained that's why he asked the Supervisors if they want this type of facility in this community; it's aj place where people can go age and stay there until the Lord calls them home; it's simple; they take care ofthem from A to Z. Ms. Thompson asked Mr. Palmer if it's a nursing home. Mr. Palmer said yes, and it would be like individual cottages where they can live. As their needs increase, for example, due to dementia or other conditions, they can move to a facility within the complex. Mr. Judd announced that he was very interested. Ms. Thompson added that it's a nursing home and assisted living facility; she asked ifit also includes hospice care. Mr. Palmer said, "Yes, it's the package, and that's why I'm asking ifthe Board wants it. "Mr. Judd explained that the Board members can't decide that tonight. Mr. Palmer noted that he was aware oft this, but he wanted it on public record because the last time he was stung, he didn't want to go through it again. Mr. Judd announced that he feels the general concept is a good one, but until there's a plan, he can't decide. Mr. Navarro agreed with Mr. Judd. Mr. McCormack added that he needs to understand the scope ofthe plan and would be in favor ofit because the Township does not have such a facility, and many people have to move out ofthe Township. Alphonzo Rozzio, 631 Lancaster Ave., noted that his name had been recorded wrong in the Planning Commission meeting minutes. He stated that if the different definitions were changed, it could be detrimental, or even more detrimental, without them and that changing it to General Commercial would not be beneficial for the neighborhood. Nick Gehret, Planning and Zoning Officer, announced that the Planning Commission voted not to recommend approval oft the draft Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance update to the Board of Supervisors. However, they are in favor of the body text of the Ordinance. Still, the issue at hand is item 12, which is the proposed rezoning of three parcels along N. Mountain Road. 10 241 Mr. Gehret explained that the parcels were proposed to be upzoned from Neighborhood Commercial to General Commercial. After coming from that meeting, the staff intended, depending on the Board ofSupervisors, that the proposed official map would be amended to reflect the current Neighborhood Commercial, which would be a substantial change, and the process would begin again, 45-day advertising, resubmittal process, which means they must resubmit to the adjacent municipalities and Dauphin County to reflect that the proposed official map has changed again. During the Planning Commission meeting, no decision or motion was made regarding the Palmer property, which was to be changed from R1 to Institutional, or the adjacent land situated across from Commerce Drive, currently zoned R1, to be changed to Business Campus. The members of the Planning Commission decided that it was a little late. Still, now that they will be amending the official map, this is something that must be contemplated. Mr. Gehret presented the proposed Zoning Ordinance 25-01 and the official Zoning Map. See attached. William Miller, 4311 Crestview Lane, inquired whether the revised Comprehensive Zoning Map and Ordinance would accurately reflect the comments made at the Planning Commission meeting. Mr. Judd explained that it is the intention ofthe Board of Supervisors. Mr. Miller noted that it might be a good time to update the map because there is a buffer that doesn't exist and now would be a good time to add it back and clean it up. Alphonzo Rozzio, 631 Lancaster Ave., requested clarification about the parking lot that sits three feet from his property line, which extends from his house to the property lines ofboth his neighbors' homes on either side. There is no buffer, as it was removed when the parking lot 11 242 was expanded. There was supposed to be a 30 ft. buffer zone when the parking lot was built. d to be a 30 ft. buffer zone. Mr. Rozzio inquired about the definitions of Neighborhood Commercial and General Commercial, as well as the proposed definition change that would allow gas stations and auto repair shops to operate under a Special Exception. He wanted to know ift that would be changing. Mr. Judd explained that it would not be changing, and it's not the desire ofthe Board to make those changes. Zen Pharr, Farhat Excavating LLC, stated the items the Planning Commission addressed regarding Crums Mill Rd. The question was whether they would be able to use the property with the power line there. He explained that his intention was to create a Business Campus, as shown on the plan, and PPL would allow him to install a parking lot underneath those lines. Presentation of Staff] Request to Hold 2025 Fireworks at George Park Mr. Judd noted that every year, after a significant event, Director Kosheba is responsible for evaluating how things went, what worked, and what didn't work. Obviously, the fireworks are a huge event, and evaluating public safety and the venue is crucial, ensuring the staff are doing their jobs. Adam Kosheba, Public Safety Director, announced that for every major event, there's always an after-action planning meeting. For those who are unfamiliar with him, he has spent 32 years in law enforcement, 40 years in the fire service, and 36 years as an EMT/Paramedic, dedicating his life to public safety. He spent the bulk ofhis career as a Pennsylvania State Police Trooper, ultimately rising to the rank of commanding Trooper. During that time, he was responsible for planning or participating in numerous events, ranging from Presidential visits to the Governor's inaugurations to the largest ever, the 150th Anniversary oft the Battle of Gettysburg 12 243 in Gettysburg. This event drew 40,000 people a day, totaling over 500,000 people during the specified time frame, and was secured by more than 200 troopers and other law enforcement personnel. Following the last two years of the Township's Fireworks event at Koons Park, everyone involved gathered for an after-action review. In summary, it was determined that improvements could be made in this case. Director Kosheba explained that for many years, this event has been held at Koons Park. Back in 2023, they first established some significant operational considerations, concerns, and arrests, with eight arrests that year, and those are just the ones they could take into custody. It may not sound like a lot, but there had been no arrests before that event. The Police arrested three Township residents and five others, and all were. juveniles. One individual had a stolen handgun and was taken into custody; there were numerous disorderly conduct and fighting incidents. They arrested eight, but others escaped through the narrow streets and other parts of Linglestown. In 2024, there were eight arrests, comprising seven juveniles and one adult, with only one oft the individuals residing in the Township. Four people were charged with disorderly conduct; four were charged with fighting and resisting arrest, including throwing fireworks at a police animal. He reported having to call the Pennsylvania State Police Mounted Unit and the Dauphin County Mobile Field Force for assistance in securing the venue. Moving forward, they had to look at what was drawing the incidents to that area, and it was the fireworks. It was the day before Harrisburg's fireworks event on the 4th, but specifically looking at Koons Park, it's a condensed area. The Police made an effort to secure most ofthat area after the 2023 event. After the 2024 event, only 50 parking spaces were available. The Police secured those parking spaces where the food trucks were for disabled individuals. Due to limited access to vehicles in and around the park, the roadways in the park area were congested. 13 244 They evaluated the acreage in Koons Park for viewing; there are ten acres designated for the viewing area, and the exclusionary zone is where the launch area is located, with a stand distance required. Additionally, there are no sidewalks in the area, nor are there any along N. Mountain Rd. The parking spaces of all the businesses and schools along the road are sporadic, and it is difficult to identify how many are available because they are spread out. Director Kosheba noted that after their after-action meeting, they had to look for an alternative area. That area was used for National Night Out for Public Safety, which is located at George Park. So, he and his staff, along with the staff of Parks & Recreation, had an idea: how could they make this better, safer, and more secure? Then, they evaluated George Park in the same manner and found that there were 22.2 acres to view, taking into account some parking areas, as one field is used for parking. They then looked at the parking spots, and there were a total of 620 available parking spots at George Park for spectators. He added that Director Scott will discuss some ofthe agreements established with local businesses, which will allow for parking.Addlitionally, 605 parking spaces are available for the event. Another important area regarding public safety is the exclusionary zone. The fields near Zach's Playhouse will be the exclusionary zone, and that area will be secured for the launch area. It's completely distant from any person viewing the fireworks. Therefore, in the rare case of a catastrophic event of fireworks going off, those injuries and/or deaths would be contained within that area. The park offers natural barriers, wooded areas, and fencing from adjoining properties, which also helps to secure the area in case of problems. He recommended relocating the fireworks event to achieve better control, reduce congestion, and enable the Police Department to secure the area properly and address any potential issues that may arise. 14 245 Mr. Gotshall asked Director Kosheba, "For the record, may I ask at any point in time, did I personally direct either you or your department to do an after-action report or second to change the venue oft the fireworks. Did I at any point direct you or make a decision relative to the venue of the fireworks?" Director Kosheba replied, "Absolutely not; you did not direct us to do any of those things.' I Ms. Thompson asked Director Kosheba to help her understand how the ability to flee throughout the crowds would be different at George Park than at Koons Park. Director Kosheba explained that it's just the expansive nature of additional acreage that they would have to cover. Still, they could get away, especially with D&H distributors. The residences in that area have fencing that would prevent it. The natural and physical barriers would make it easier to catch someone. Rachelle Scott, Parks & Recreation Director, offered to clarify any of the administration that led to this request or recommendation. She noted that after each event, the staff collaborated. Still, monthly, the Township staff from each department get together to discuss all the events. They prepare for each year's Township community events and other community-hosted events. She noted that in September, Sky Shooters, the organization with which they had signed a contract, had approached representatives oft the Linglestown Fire Company, requesting to go through the annual process of signing the contract. At that time, the staff requested an update to the agreement to ensure the Township could cancel it, as the contract only allowed Sky Shooters to cancel the event for safety concerns. She reported having worked with the Fire Chief of Linglestown Fire Company to collaborate on the contract over the next two months. In November, they held a Parks & Recreation meeting, during which they discussed potential opportunities to relocate the event to another park. 15 246 Mrs. Scott stated that, as Director Kosheba said, they had the Fire Chief contact the Linglestown Fire Company immediately to invite them to a meeting in December and January, where it was stated that they hoped to have a report to make a recommendation. They provided the recommendation to Mr. Gotshall to deliver it to the Board of Supervisors by the end oft the month. She added that there was a moment when they were unsure ifthe fireworks event would take place after what had transpired the previous year. Mr. Gotshall asked Director Scott, "For the record again, did I, at any point during this process, direct you or your department to make any decisions relative to the venue of the 2025 Fireworks." Director Scott replied, Absolutely not. " He continued, "The only direction I did provide to you, number one, was to ensure that we had a contract that allowed the fireworks to continue whether or not the event happened at Koons or George." 97 Director Scott replied, "Correct." 99 Mr. Gotshall continued, "Number two, to ensure that at some point during this process, you both, the Parks & Recreation Department and The Department of Public Safety at some point provide me with a recommendation from staff relative to where the event should be held and then at which point I would provide that to the Board ofSupervisors for the ultimate decision. " Director Scott replied, "Correct." Mr. McCormack thanked both Director Kosheba and Director Scott for doing their jobs, for the after-action report, and for coming to the Board with a recommendation. Dr. Brian Epp, a long-time resident of the Township and physician in the area, announced that he is privileged to be one ofthe providers for law enforcement and first responders in the area. He commented on the proposal and public safety. He suggested that the Supervisors heed the advice and recommendations of the experienced professionals in moving the venue. 16 247 Dr. Epp noted that for the last two years, he has had the privilege of participating in the National Night Out for Public Safety, where he was able to bring trailers and equipment to demonstrate his services at the proposed new location. From his personal experience, this location was far more accessible for him to bring a large camper trailer behind a large tow vehicle, and the accessibility to get in and out is paramount, especially in terms of aiding and assisting our first responders and law enforcement. Understanding the resignation ofthe other Supervisors, he heard that particular suggestions had not been heeded and felt compelled, after hearing from certain people, that the recommendations would fall on deaf ears. After the attempted assassination in Butler and with the changing times, he asked the Supervisors to remain open-minded to a changing venue. Mr. Judd added that the Supervisors must balance the needs of Public Safety experts and the desires of residents. Still, as far as supporting Public Safety personnel, this can't be seriously questioned. He probably voted with the Supervisor, who resigned 99.99% of the time on most things, including Public Safety. Kelly Fegley, a resident of the Township for 22 years, announced that she doesn't know anyone personally; therefore, her comments are not directed at anyone but rather at the actions. Until last week, no one was aware oft the change until a firefighter came in and addressed the situation. This is the reason they are discussing it now, as it had been handled behind closed doors until then. She commented on how the Township handled the process. The Township was not part ofthe contract; it's not the Lower Paxton Township Fireworks, but rather the Linglestown Fireworks. They started this activity in 1955, funded and planned it, and utilized the resources ofe everyone who volunteered to help. She felt it was despicable to exclude the Linglestown Fire Company and alter the course of this event. 17 248 Ms. Fegley commented about the Public Safety plan and the viewing area. She mentioned that not even half ofthe area is occupied, there's plenty of space available, and the location in Linglestown allows everyone within a mile radius to stay at their house to watch the display. She also mentioned the available parking spaces in Linglestown, such as two schools, three churches, aj public parking lot at the end of Blue Mountain Parkway, and side streets. She added that there are probably more parking spaces in Linglestown than in the one area off Nyes Road. She also commented on the Public Safety plan, noting that nothing was mentioned about how to handle middle schoolers or teenagers as they are dropped offin large numbers and left unsupervised. She doesn't think changing the location will change the behavior of any middle school or high schooler, and teenagers will still run, regardless of the park. She wanted to know how it makes people safer to be in a confined space with only one entrance and one exit. Mr. Gotshall reiterated the point that the public's perception is related to the issue of the check and contract. He asked both Director Kosheba and Director Scott to come to the podium to explain how the Township Manager may or may not have been involved in the events that occurred during the process. Mr. Judd noted that the storyline that has been spread isn't true, and the staff were not directed, nor was any decision made. The Township wrote the check because it was assumed that if the event would be held in George Park, then the Linglestown Fire Company would not need to sign the check. The Township would need to reserve the fireworks company. Mr. Gotshall explained that his comments were not directed at the previous commenter. Still, it appears that the public perception is that the Township Manager made a last-minute decision to change this venue without regard for other organizations. He asked Director Kosheba and Director Scott at what point the Linglestown Fire Company was brought into the planning process. 18 249 Director Scott explained that they contacted the Linglestown Fire Company on November 12, 2024, as that was the first meeting staff held to discuss the options of hosting at George Park versus Koons Park. They also had their executive meeting at the Linglestown Fire Company on November 13, 2024, to discuss the options. On November 14, 2025, Sean Harp, Fire Chief of] Linglestown Fire Company, contacted her and stated that if the event were to move, they would not be involved. She informed him that a decision had not been made, and they had planned an exploration meeting for December 10, 2024. Mr. Harp did not attend the meeting on December 10, 2024, but he was invited back to the meeting scheduled for January 10, 2025. However, Michelle Thompson had the wrong date, and she and Michelle Thompson invited him back to the meeting on January 14, 2025. At this time, Mr. DiSanto attended the meeting. He expressed his concerns about not hosting the event at Koons Park, recommending that Koons Park be closed for four days and not allow any viewers. She met with Mr. Gotshall and asked him how to proceed regarding closing the park as recommended or putting the recommendation together. He said the event was a viewer event and that we need to recommend how we are going to encourage the public to attend. At that point, she and Director Kosheba both submitted a proposal and a recommendation. Allen McCormack added that everyone who spoke had made fair and accurate statements, and he doesn't dispute that, but he does dispute that the Township Manager acted in an inappropriate way. The Township Manager was told by the Public Safety department that this is a real issue, and it needs to be considered. Still, the Manager didn't know what the Board of Supervisors would decide. He took steps that would ascertain that the Township locked in the availability of the fireworks event and the people who were going to facilitate the display. The Township Manager found out that there was no specific cancellation clause for the Township to 19 250 cancel the event and receive a refund. The the Linglestown Fire Company had some emails, assurances, and phone conversations indicating that the fireworks company would allow the cancellation, but a contract is better than an email or conversation. He stated that Mr. Gotshall was motivated by the best intentions and was trying to ensure the Board ofSupervisors would have the ability to make a decision that would lead to either one of two locations or still hosting the fireworks display. Director Scott pointed out that the check was cut in January, and it's usually cut in November, but that was through communication with Linglestown Fire Company; they were notified that the Township planned to move forward with the first half of the deposit to ensure the event occurred since they had stated they may not want to be involved. However, the staff had asked several times and encouraged Linglestown Fire Company to be involved in the change ifit were to go on that route. Mr. Judd stated that they are all on the same team; the people watching assume that the Police, Parks & Recreation, and the Board ofs Supervisors are adversaries, but they are not. He asked the community to keep in mind the humans behind these job titles; they have everyone's best interest in mind. Nick DiSanto ofLinglestown Fire Company announced that hc agrees with some ofthe statements made, and they are working together to collaborate with the Public Safety Director and his staff. Last week, he presented it to the Board and wanted to ensure it was clear; he asked ifthe Supervisors had any questions about the packet they submitted, along with the letters of support and recommendations from the other participating Fire Company. They still greatly differ on how it was handled and take the stance that it's a Linglestown Fire Company event; they hosted it. 20 251 Mr. DiSanto noted that Linglestown Fire Company's financial contribution will not go towards the payment ifthe event is held at George Park. Mr. Judd said the Board understands that. Kelly Fegley added that along with the safety oft the one-way in and one-way out, the traffic in that area would be a nightmare. The Linglestown area has four roads that border the park, and each road has multiple access points to enter. It disperses quickly after the event because there are 360 degrees of direction to go in, and no one is sitting in traffic waiting on one exit and one road to get to that park. She asked the Supervisors to consider this information along with the traffic in that area. Mr. Judd announced that since this issue went public, the Supervisors have heard from a lot of people. The Public Safety Director did a good job pointing out the public safety elements of this event. He thinks the overwhelming community opposition must weigh heavily, and the supervisors generally don't put matters of Public Safety up for a vote or take a poll. Frankly, the Police Department and Fire Companies make a lot of decisions on their own, which is their legal right to do SO, to keep everyone safe. First, Director Kosheba recommended this move but also assured the Supervisors that they would do everything possible to maintain Public Safety at Koons Park, whatever that required, and that they had the Township's support. Mr. Judd announced that he is inclined to keep the fireworks event at Koons and wanted to see if the majority oft the Board has an opinion or if they would like to hear more. Ms. Thompson stated that, as the Supervisors discussed in the Executive Session before the meeting, they don't have to decide tonight. She said the Township has the fireworks vendor on hold by having a signed contract and would prefer to wait, have more discussion, and hear from other members ofthe public, as she's not inclined to rush to make a decision. 21 252 Mr. Navarro agreed with Ms. Thompson that they should take more time but doesn't feel that the event needs to move from Koons Park, but it's worth taking some more consideration. Mr. Judd indicated that he would consider taking more time ifMr. Navarro were to consider moving the event. Mr. Navarro stated that he was sick last week, and after watching the video, he was not inclined to make any changes; however, he does agree with the Director of Public Safety, and he would like to take a little more time to digest it. Mr. McCormack concurred with Mr. Judd's suggestion to keep the event at Koons Park. He didn't know that his vote or inclination would change with any additional information. Mr. Judd announced that the Supervisors are split, and they should gather more information. They will obviously take into account what the Director of Public Safety and Parks & Recreation says, as they do consider the residents' opinions. The Supervisors will study it, take it up again, and talk about it right here. Dr. Epps stated that the primary point of contention is that the minors are getting misdemeanors as being the primary safety issue. Being privy to what law enforcement and First Responders must deal with is much more a matter of recognizing that it's the accessibility and the ability to control the venue that extends far beyond some use; they are getting into fights that way. There's much more coordination that goes into it, especially between different agencies that he's been privy to, working with the Capital City Police, seeing how different functions have occurred with the Presidents coming into town. He thinks it should be of paramount importance not just to follow tradition but to recognize that these are changing times that are becoming increasingly violent, and to have a venue that allows for a more controlled situation should be carefully considered. 22 253 Mike Kershner, Jacobs Ave., asked how much the event has grown and how much more it is expected to grow in the coming years. The issue is the density ofthe crowd. He asked Director Scott if that was the issue or a safety concern. Director Scott explained that Parks & Recreation has been tasked with making the events larger to attract more people from the community; therefore, yes, it has increased. Mr. Judd asked ifit were out oft the question to consider scheduling the event on the 4th of July SO that the Township could host its event. Harrisburg could host its own event, and it could help control the crowds or avoid conflict. Director Kosheba explained that they discussed changing the date, but it can't be changed this year because the contract isn't for that day. Additionally, due to the events that occurred in the city on July 4, the city has assured him that the Mobile Field Force and partner agencies around the city will be requested to send personnel to the event. Mr. Judd stated that he knew there was a reason and clarified that the Township's Police Department would be tied up in Harrisburg. Mr. Judd asked the Supervisors to think about when they would like to have more discussion. Mr. Navarro suggested that the discussion take place at the next board meeting, and Ms. Thompson agreed. Mr. Judd stated that the discussion would continue at the next board meeting, scheduled for Tuesday, February 18, 2025. Announcements Mr. Judd announced that the Township will advertise for the vacancy on the Board, and they'll be accepting applications. Ms. Thompson encouraged residents from the Linglestown community to talk with their neighbors and encourage them to attend the next meeting to express their feelings about the fireworks. 23 254 Mr. Judd announced that the next meeting, a business meeting, is scheduled for Tuesday, February 18, 2024, at 7:00 p.m. Adjournment Mr. McCormack motioned to adjourn the meeting. Mr. Navarro seconded the motion. Mr. Judd called for a voice vote, which resulted in a unanimous vote ofa approval. The meeting adjourned the meeting at 9:32 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Approved by, bhuliur Rkd fuhann 4 - . - Shellie Smith, Secretary Recording Secretary 24 For he Offcial Minot 255 From7ze Feb 1/ Aechns Madam Secretary, I am going to read my remarks into the record and then submit a written draft for document retention purposes. I want to thank everyone for coming out this evening and showing your interest and commitment to how well your local government works on your behalf. I sit here this evening as the only elected woman on this board of supervisors. Until a week ago, I was one of two women that the voters in Lower Paxton Township trusted to tell them the truth, spend their money wisely, and put plans in place that will allow them to enjoy their homes, their community, their work, and their freedoms. intend to keep the promises I made to the voters and the residents, starting with telling the truth in paying homage to our former chairwoman, Mrs. Robin Lindsey. For 16 years, Robin has given her heart in service to this community. For 15 of those years, Robin served dutifully under the leadership that had been in place. She was rightfully promoted to Chair of this body, because of her integrity, her fairness, and her love of this community. Unfortunately, as with many governing bodies that have operated as unchecked good ole boy networks for years on end, adjusting to and supporting the leadership of a woman is met with resistance, whether passive or aggressive. Regretfully, this governing body has shown itself to be one of those resistant and obstructive forces with our hired manager overstepping his boundaries and making blatant attempts to usurp the authority of the elected members of this board. We have received multiple complaints and other issues of concern highlighted by residents, by voters, and by the employees of this township. The consistent theme of those communications include displeasure with the authoritarian style of the township manager, his non-responsiveness to resident initiated communications, prioritizing his own self-importance, and inhibiting others ability to communicate across silos in this township. His behavior has been not only excused, but condoned and endorsed by the two elected male members of this board, who themselves were part of the previous regime that chose to operate in the shadows instead of the sunshine. Let me remind you that this is an at will state as it regards employment. - fellow elected members our lack of action to correct and redirect the - say to my tonight, problematic behavior of our employed township manager has first cost us Norm Zoumas and now Robin Lindsey. Through in action we have allowed 21 and half years of township experience to walk out the door. We can no longer turn a blind eye. We cannot make excuses. We have the ability to right this ship, to put the sexism, ageism, nepotism, and bigotry of the past truly in the past, and to conduct the business of the residents of this township with honor, integrity, and full transparency. implore this board of elected advocates to put the interests of the residents of this township above their personal relationships, their party affiliations, and their personal ambitions. am looking forward to having honest and transparent dialog when we adjourn into executive session this evening.