MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 1 1 BEFORE THE BOROUGH COUNCIL 2 OF BOROUGH OF SLATINGTON 3 4 5 6 A regular meeting of Slatington 7 Borough Council held in the Borough Hall Council 8 Room, 125 South Wanut Street, Slatington, 9 Pennsylvania, on Monday, April 14, 2025, commencing 10 at 7:03 p.m., beiore Steven R. Mack, Registered 11 Merit Reporter. 12 13 BEFORE : BOROUGH COUNCIL 14 David Schnaars, President 15 Zachari Halkias, Vice President Aaron Schoch, Council Member 16 Kevin Steckel, Council Member William Schippers, Council Member 17 Ryan Mayberry, Council Member Ronald Kratz, Council Member 18 Lisa A. Young, Esq-, Solicitor 19 Roy Hambrecht, Borough Manager Jeralyn Schoch, Mayor 20 William L. Borst, Acting Police Chief Robert. Reph, Fire Chief 21 Abigail Bartels, Engineer 22 23 24 25 ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) OSITION SOLUTIONS EsqgureSolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 2 1 2 INDEX 3 Prayer and Pledge of Allegiance 4 Approval of Minutes 4 4 Phillips Armatrong-special Preentation 6 5 Public Participation 6 Robert Herzog 18 Patty Ingles 18 7 Public Announcements 19 8 Approval of Accounts Payable/Transiers 20 9 Mayor's/Police/Pire Remarks 10 Mayor Jeralyn Schoch 20 Police Chief William Borst 21 11 Fire Chief Robert Reph 29 12 Standing Committees 13 Public Safety 33 Highway 41 14 Human/Community Services 55 Finance/Planning/Zoning 60 15 Sewer/Solid Waste 95 Water/Special Sewer 115 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) DEPOSITION SOLUTIONS Esquresolutons.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 3 1 MR. SCHNAARS: Okay. Next up, I'm going to 2 call to order the regular meeting of Council on 3 Monday, April 14th, at 7 p.m., and I'm calling to 4 order. May I have a roll call, please, Manager 5 Hambrecht. 6 MR. HAMBRECHT: President Schnaars. 7 MR. SCHNAARS: Here. 8 MR. HAMBRECHT: Vice President Halkias. 9 MR. HALKIAS: Here. 10 MR. HAMBRECHT: Councilor Mayberry. 11 MR. MAYBERRY: Here. 12 MR. HAMBRECHT: Councilor Kratz. 13 MR. KRATZ: Here. 14 MR. HAMBRECHT: Councilor Steckel. 15 MR. STECKEL: Here. 16 MR. HAMBRECHT: Councilor Schoch. 17 MR. SCHOCH: Here. 18 MR. HAMBRECHT: Councilor Schippers. 19 MR. SCHIPPERS: Here. 20 MR. HAMBRECHT: Mayor Schoch. 21 MAYOR SCHOCH: Here. 22 MR. SCHNAARS: All those are present. May 23 we have the prayer and pledge, Councilor Mayberry. 24 MR. MAYBERRY: Yes. Let's rise and bow our 25 heads. ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) POSITION SOLUTIONS EsqureSolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 4 1 Gracious God, we gather together here 2 today intent on doing good work. We meet to serve 3 our community, to use our resources wisely and well, 4 to represent all members of our community fairly, and 5 to make decisions that promote the common good. As 6 trusted servants we recognize our responsibility to 7 our citizens and the rights and needs of both 8 individuals and community. We seek blessings on our 9 deliberations today and on our etforts here. May we 10 act wisely and well. Amen. 11 (Amens in unison.) 12 (Pledge of Allegiance recited.) 13 MR. SCHNAARS: All public sessions of the 14 Borough Council are electronically recorded, and such 15 recordings are maintained as part of the meeting 16 record until the minutes are transcribed and approved 17 by the board, at which time the recordings shall be 18 erased. 19 First up on the agenda is approval of 20 the minutes. We have the approval of minutes for the 21 Council meeting of March 10th and the committee 22 meetings March 17th and 24th. Are there any 23 additions or corrections? 24 MS. YOUNG: I have some corrections. Page 25 2, around the middle where Ms. Burek was speaking. ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) POSITION SOLUTIONS EsqureSolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 5 1 "Allow Solicitor Young to investigate pass" should be 2 past, p-a-s-t. 3 Page 5, the fourth paragraph of No. 5, 4 second line from the end, Solicitor Young. 5 And on page 6, under Informational 6 Items, it should be Slatington Parks and Recreation, 7 not plural, Committee. 8 MR. SCHNAARS: Okay. Are there any other 9 corrections? 10 MR. MAYBERRY: Yes. I'd like - - I have 11 one. Under the Fnace/Pamaing/omim, Public 12 Safety, Human/Community Services Committee ones, on 13 the page 3 on the back under the Finance Committee, 14 C., Visioning. It says, "Councilor Mayberry 15 suggested a live-streaming meeting. 1 I'd like to 16 clarify that by saying suggested live-streaming 17 Council meetings. 18 Another thing in the same paragraph. 19 It said, "Councilor Mayberry thought an amusement tax 20 in an establishment would be worth looking into." I 21 meant an amusement tax on skill games in 22 establishments would be worth looking into. 23 I just wanted to clarify that. 24 MR. SCHNAARS: Corrections are noted. And 25 any others? If not, do I have a motion to accept the ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) DEPOSITION SOLUTIONS EsqureSolutons.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 6 1 minutes as amended? 2 MR. KRATZ: Motion to approve. 3 MR. SCHNAARS: I have a motion. 4 MR. SCHIPPERS: I'1l second that. 5 MR. SCHNAARS: And second. That's as 6 amended, correct? Okay. All those in favor please 7 say aye? 8 (Voice vote.) 9 MR. SCHNAARS: Those opposed? The motion 10 passes. 11 Next is a special presentation. 12 Mr. Armstrong, you're visiting us again. 13 MR. ARMSTRONG: Do you mind if I do it from 14 a sitting position? 15 MR. SCHNAARS: I don't mind at all. 16 MR. ARMSTRONG: Okay. Well, this is kind 17 of my 18 MR. SCHNAARS: Just tell everybody not to 19 kick your knee, that's all. 20 MR. ARMSTRONG: Yeah. Well, I hope not. 21 MR. SCHNAARS: Okay. 22 MR. ARMSTRONG: Yeah. I had to keep my 23 Jeep parked for the last couple weeks. It's a 24 standard. I can't - can't push that clutch down 25 right now, SO my wife is without a car. ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) DEPOSITION SOLUTIONS EsquireSolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 7 1 But anyway, this is kind of my 2 farewell tour. I said I'd come to every meeting once 3 a year, and this is the last year. My term is up in 4 January. Whoever follows me, I am going to very much 5 encourage how important it is to get out to these 6 meetings, for a number of reasons. 7 One of them is finding out sometimes 8 your questions and what we can do to - to answer 9 them, to work on that; and I have to say personally, 10 coming up here to Slatington, you know, being able to 11 help with the amphitheater project, you know, those 12 are the kind of things that I'm really proud of that 13 we were able to work with you. And I think that's 14 what Lehigh County does better than the areas, the 15 way we work with the municipalities, and I think it's 16 because we have these kinds of bonds that we come out 17 and we 18 And I one of the big things this 19 year naturally is the radios. It's been a hot topic 20 wherever I go. We're kind of coming to the point now 21 of I don't know if you handed in how many you 22 needed? 23 CHIEF BORST: Yes. 24 CHIEF REPH: Yeah. 25 MR. ARMSTRONG: We're getting all that ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) DEPOSITION SOLUTIONS EsqureSolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 8 1 finalized. We should know by June then what the cost 2 is going to be because we're gonna have the numbers, 3 then we'll get back to you. 4 The Board of Commissioners already had 5 said that if you want the five-year plan, we'll loan 6 you the money and we will not charge you for five 7 years, interest free. If you want to go the ten 8 years, then we're going to have to charge you the 9 interest. 10 I will have to say I haven't been at a 11 town meeting yet that they're gonna go ten. Some of 12 them even already have the money allocated, they're 13 not even gonna need. Some of them have put in for 14 grants and think they're going to get them, fingers 15 crossed. 16 I actually, oh, a couple of months ago 17 met with some people from the White House, and I said 18 I know there's many, many things we need, but if 19 you're gonna ask me what's one of the things? The 20 local municipalities are getting kicked in the pants 21 because of these radios; they're expensive. It would 22 be great to get a grant. And I tried. I'm not sure 23 it's gonna work. 24 But I'm not leaving you. I have been 25 elected to be the executive vice president for the ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) POSITION SOLUTIONS EsqureSolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 9 1 County Executives of America, sO I will stay on that 2 board, sO we will have a seat at that table. And in 3 June in Seattle I'm up to be - I was nominated. If 4 I win that election, I'11 be the second vice chair of 5 the National Association of Regional Councils, which 6 will mean I'1l be the chair of it in 2027. 7 That's the organization, the Planning 8 Commissions of all over the United States; and as you 9 know the money comes through the Planning Commissions 10 for infrastructure repair, things like that. 11 So I right now represent four states 12 in that organization, but because of my involvement 13 they've nominated me now to move up into a leadership 14 role, and I will continue even though I won't be the 15 county executive. So I'm not gonna go home and sit 16 on the front porch. I'm gonna continue to be active, 17 continue to fight for this area on the national 18 stage, and I really do enjoy that. 19 I've - I've really enjoyed this job I 20 have to say. If it wasn't for the term limit, which 21 I understand completely, I'm not gonna break the term 22 limit thing or try to change the Constitution or 23 anything; but it has been a great eight years, and 24 I've really enjoyed it. Okay, that scared me. I ask 25 if you have any questions. ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) DEPOSITION SOLUTIONS EsqureSolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 10 1 (Off the record discussion about noise 2 emanating from the sound system.) 3 MR. ARMSTRONG: And I don't know if you've 4 budgeted it already, you know, where you're starting 5 to look, but we'll have an exact cost for you. And 6 hopefully the towers are going in, everything is 7 on on schedule right now, SO. 8 It's good news to see you guys back. 9 MR. SCHNAARS: I have one question. 10 MR. ARMSTRONG: Yes, questions. 11 MR. SCHNAARS: Have you got any influence 12 with the county roads department or anything? 13 MR. ARMSTRONG: we don't own roads. The 14 county doesn't own any roads. We own bridges, but we 15 don't own roads. 16 MR. SCHNAARS: Okay. Well, the detour 17 signs for this bridge? 18 MR. ARMSTRONG: Okay. 19 MR. SCHNAARS: Are useless. I mean if you 20 go and try and follow detours the way around, unless 21 you know the town, you're gonna end up out in Lower 22 Podunk somewhere. Okay? And I think we've talked to 23 them before about at least putting arrows with some 24 detour signs or something like that, but they just 25 all they say is detour, you're on a detour, and then ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EPOSITION SOLUTIONS Esquresolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 11 1 they end, and you don't know where to go. 2 MR. ARMSTRONG: Which is typical for 3 PennDOT. 4 MAYOR SCHOCH: PennDOT. 5 MR. ARMSTRONG: You know, it's really 6 MR. SCHNAARS: I don't know if it's PennDOT 7 or if it's 8 MAYOR SCHOCH: It's PennDOT. 9 MR. SCHNAARS: Is that PennDOT? 10 MR. ARMSTRONG: Yeah. 11 MAYOR SCHOCH: Um-hum. It's PennDOT. 12 MR. ARMSTRONG: Yeah. I can call the 13 regional guy and bring it up for you 14 MR. SCHNAARS: Okay. 15 MR. ARMSTRONG: and I will do that. 16 Will it make a difference? I'm not sure. 17 MR. SCHNAARS: It's been that way since 18 they put them up. 19 MR. ARMSTRONG: Yeah. I mean a couple 20 years ago Coplay, they put a new bridge in over 21 into into Coplay from Northampton, and nobody was 22 stopping at the stop sign, sO I did you know, and 23 they put a red light flashing on this, and it did 24 work, SO I'11 try. 25 MR. SCHNAARS: Okay. ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) DEPOSITION SOLUTIONS EsquireSolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 12 1 MR. ARMSTRONG: Yeah. 2 MR. SCHNAARS: Because it's like I say, 3 you know, you just go up like if you're going up what 4 we call Danny Iphonetic] East 5 MR. ARMSTRONG: Yeah. 6 MR. SCHNAARS: Church Street here. It 7 says you're on a detour. When you get up to the 8 light, there's no indication of where to go. There's 9 none at Second Street, which would be the easy way to 10 get back on Main if you're going east. 11 MR. ARMSTRONG: Yeah. 12 MR. SCHNAARS: But there's nothing there to 13 indicate what a person should do. Okay? 14 MR. ARMSTRONG: Well, I know to come down 15 and come over Church. That's 16 MR. SCHNAARS: Yeah. 17 MR. ARMSTRONG: Yeah. 18 MR. SCHNAARS: Yeah. I mean if you live in 19 town, you're 20 MR. ARMSTRONG: Another advantage of coming 21 up here for years. 22 MR. SCHNAARS: Yeah. 23 MAYOR SCHOCH: So when are they planning to 24 implement the new system? 25 MR. ARMSTRONG: Well, it has to be by 2026, ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) POSITION SOLUTIONS Esquresolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 13 1 it has to be up and running. 2 MAYOR SCHOCH: Okay. 3 MR. ARMSTRONG: So. 4 MAYOR SCHOCH: Because I had heard that. I 5 wasn't sure if we were 6 MR. ARMSTRONG: Yeah. Yeah, that's a 7 state 8 MAYOR SCHOCH: gonna make that cutofi. 9 MR. ARMSTRONG: Yeah. I've gotten yelled 10 at from some municipalities for this. This is not 11 the county's idea, this is not - 12 MAYOR SCHOCH: Right. I know. 13 MR. ARMSTRONG: the county who's just 14 making you do it, this is the state. It's needed. 15 And the next thing that has to come next is that 16 every county needs to start signing agreements that 17 they'1l share with the county next to them too, which 18 is coming in . 19 You know, the 911 became a county 20 system my first or second year in office, and there 21 was word then that they want to take it and expand it 22 to make it regional. 23 MAYOR SCHOCH: Well, that's why they made 24 them get the RMS systems 25 MR. ARMSTRONG: Yes. ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EPOSITION SOLUTIONS EsqureSolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 14 1 MAYOR SCHOCH: and had them I retired 2 from the 911 Center. 3 MR. ARMSTRONG: Oh. Okay. 4 MAYOR SCHOCH: So yeah, I'm very aware of 5 that. 6 MR. ARMSTRONG: And what we're being told 7 is they'd probably do that, except they don't have 8 any place to go to make these regional centers, and 9 they don't have the money to pay for them, sO it's 10 probably going to be, you know. 11 I did have a nice question about the 12 rail study earlier. Lehigh County put $250,000 out 13 there. We're I'1l be dead before there's a rail 14 service. It can't go to the next step unless we 15 spend $500,000 to do the study. Government works 16 really slow when you have to do - - and that's the 17 next step. 18 But Northampton County has not paid 19 they've not come forward for their half of the 250, 20 sO we're looking at trying to find out someplace 21 else. But if we don't, we're gonna take the money 22 back. So, you know, it's not going to help half a 23 study; you have to either do it or you don't. So 24 that's in limbo right now. 25 MR. SCHNAARS: Well, thank you very much. ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EPOSITION SOLUTIONS EsqureSolutlons.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 15 1 Anybody else have a question? 2 MR. MAYBERRY: I guess the last thing. Do 3 we have updates on when the bridge work is going to 4 be starting? 5 MR. ARMSTRONG: No. I'd love to be able to 6 give you the exact date, but, you know, that's a 7 I can just one of the funniest 8 stories I've had in government, at our last county 9 executive meeting a county executive from a county in 10 Long Island, very affluent, got hacked, and I 11 happened to be having dinner with the county 12 executive when it got hacked. And he got this call 13 and he had to step out, and he comes back, and I - 14 and he's laughing. 15 I said, "What's the matter?" 16 He said, "They want 500,000 within 24 17 hours or they're gonna (made sound) our system. T 18 And I said, "Why are you laughing?" 19 He said, "They have no idea; 20 government can't do anything in 24 hours." 21 And that is you know, if anybody is 22 involved in government, it's the truest story. And 23 he - they never paid and nothing ever happened. But 24 he was very - you know, it just doesn't go that way. 25 I wish it did, but yeah. ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) POSITION SOLUTIONS EsgureSolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 16 1 MR. MAYBERRY: All right. 2 MR. ARMSTRONG: Well, I mean 3 MAYOR SCHOCH: That's another PennDOT. 4 That's PennDOT, sO. 5 MR. ARMSTRONG: it's scheduled to be 6 going, you know, it's - - it's there, it's on a - - you 7 know. 8 MR. MAYBERRY: As long as it's moving. 9 MR. ARMSTRONG: Yeah. 10 MR. SCHNAARS: PennDOT is on the 11 intersection, but it's the county that has the 12 bridge. 13 MR. ARMSTRONG: Yeah. And it's that 14 intersection that's the problem. 15 MAYOR SCHOCH: Right. 16 MR. ARMSTRONG: Yeah. It's a major 17 problem. 18 MAYOR SCHOCH: Well, they ran into all 19 that, those issues with Verizon and their fiberoptics 20 running under the bridge. 21 MR. ARMSTRONG: The bridge, yeah. 22 MAYOR SCHOCH: So that was a little a 23 big hiccup. So yeah. 24 MR. ARMSTRONG: Well, we got a 22-and-a- 25 half-million-dollar grant to extend the rails to ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) DEPOSITION SOLUTIONS EsqureSolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 17 1 trail from Allentown up to Whitehall and to kind 2 of and now that grant's frozen after we've done 3 all the studies, all the and we're ready to start 4 it, and it's now frozen, SO. 5 MS. INGLES: And that's because of the new? 6 MR. ARMSTRONG: Yeah, everything is frozen 7 right now. 8 What I've been telling every 9 municipality, one thing that's on the table that 10 should scare every municipal water authority, sewer 11 authority, school district; when they passed the 12 income tax law they exempted municipal bonds from 13 being taxed. That's how we raise money. That's 14 how we will take out a municipal bond for the 15 radios. That's how everybody does infrastructure 16 repair. That's now on the table to be taxed. 17 If you tax municipal bonds, that's 18 gonna up the interest rates. That's gonna keep 19 people from wanting - and it's gonna cost but 20 they'1l raise 800 and some b1llion dollars by doing 21 that tax. We're fighting, every part of America is 22 fighting against that right now. That's what our 23 huge lobby is = is doing, and that's what I was 24 doing in Washington, but it doesn't look good. So - 25 (crossing fingers) ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EPOSITION SOLUTIONS Esquresolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 18 1 MR. SCHNAARS: : Thank you very much. 2 MR. ARMSTRONG: Okay. Well, I'm still 3 around until January. Even then, if you need 4 anything, please call. Okay? 5 (Thank yous voiced and applause.) 6 MR. SCHNAARS: Karen, would you bring me 7 the sign-in sheet that's on the table there? Thank 8 you. 9 Okay. It's time for public comment, 10 and one person signed in to speak. It's Robert 11 Herzog. If you would state your name and address for 12 the record, please. 13 MR. HERZOG: Robert Herzog, 2211 Skyline 14 Drive, Slatington. 15 As most of youse know, this past week 16 or SO we took delivery on two new pickups. I just 17 wanted to thank you personally and from the guys that 18 we needed these trucks. Everything youse put into it 19 helped us to get them. I know youse don't get 20 thanked very often, SO. And I wanted to personally 21 thank Roy. He came late, but he contributed to help 22 get these things done. So that's all I have to say. 23 I just want to say thank you again. 24 But we need more equipment, and if you 25 want to throw money at us, I could live with that. ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) POSITION SOLUTIONS EsqureSolutons.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 19 1 Thank you. 2 MS. INGLES: And I would like to say - - I 3 know this might be a little thing, but I really 4 appreciate that you guys empty the poo containers 5 down at the trail, because I use them almost every 6 day with my dog walking. 7 MR. HERZOG: So you're the one that fills 8 them. 9 MS. INGLES: Exactly. So I just wanted to 10 say thank you very much. 11 THE REPORTER: What's your name? 12 MS. INGLES: Patty Ingles, I-n-g-1-e-s. 13 MR. SCHNAARS: Okay. There's nobody else 14 signed in to speak. Does anybody wish to? 15 Okay. If not, we will move on. The 16 reports of various committees and officials and 17 offices are on file. 18 At an executive session on Monday, 19 March 17th, at 7:41 p.m. the matters of personnel 20 were discussed. Any other announcements need to be 21 made? 22 MR. HAMBRECHT: (Shaking head from side to 23 side.) 24 MR. SCHNAARS: Okay. All right. Next up 25 is the approval of our accounts payable. ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EFOSITION SOLUTIONS Esquresolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON B0ROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 20 1 MR. KRATZ: Motion to pay the bills. 2 MR. SCHNAARS: I have a motion. 3 MR. MAYBERRY: I'1l second that. 4 MR. SCHNAARS: And a second. Is there any 5 discussion? May I have a roll call vote, Roy. 6 MR. HAMBRECHT: President Schnaars. 7 MR. SCHNAARS: Yes. 8 MR. HAMBRECHT: Vice President Halkias. a MR. HALKIAS: : Yes. 10 MR. HAMBRECHT: Councilor Mayberry. 11 MR. MAYBERRY: Yes. 12 MR. HAMBRECHT: Councilor Kratz. 13 MR. KRATZ: Yes. 14 MR. HAMBRECHT: Councilor Steckel. 15 MR. STECKEL: Yes. 16 MR. HAMBRECHT: Councilor Schoch. 17 MR. SCHOCH: Yes. 18 MR. HAMBRECHT: Councilor Schippers. 19 MR. SCHIPPERS: Yes. 20 MR. SCHNAARS: That's seven yesesi motion 21 passes. Next up are the mayor remarks. 22 MAYOR SCHOCH: I just wanted to remind 23 everybody that this Saturday is community cleanup 24 day. It starts at nine o'clock. We usually meet at 25 the fire company and sign up for what areas we're ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EPOSITION SOLUTIONS EsquireSolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 21 1 gonna clean up. So I'm hoping to see a good turnout 2 there. 3 And I just wanted to thank Chief Borst 4 for all the hard work you've been doing over the past 5 few months. You and the guys down there fixing up 6 the police station, it looks wonderful, it looks 7 great, and the morale down there is better than I've 8 seen in a long time. And you're doing a great job, 9 sO I just wanted to say thank you for that. 10 CHIEF BORST: Thank you very much. I 11 appreciate it. 12 MAYOR SCHOCH: Um-hum. Absolutely. 13 MR. SCHNAARS: That's it? 14 MAYOR SCHOCH: Yeah. I'm sorry. That's 15 it. 16 MR. SCHNAARS: Chief Borst. 17 CHIEE BORST: I'11 touch on our statistics 18 from March of this year first. We had 281 total 19 incidents, a 13 percent decrease from 2024. 216 20 reports were filed, sO a 1.89 percent increase from 21 last year. Six criminal arrests. That's a hundred 22 percent increase from 2024. Twenty-nine traffic 23 citations were issued. That's up 70 percent from 24 2024. And 27 parking tickets were issued. That's 25 minus 7 and a half percent from 2024. ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) DEPOSITION S0LUTIONS EsqureSolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 22 1 I just wanted to update on our new 2 hires. I believe I discussed this last meeting, but 3 we did hold our test. We do have an eligibility list 4 that is completed now. We're just waiting on that 5 list to be certified by the Civil Service Commission 6 sO we can move forward with beginning our backgrounds 7 and starting hiring. 8 I'm going to try to target May to have 9 our two new officers sworn in, SO that's we're 10 gonna work as fast as we can, but that's my goal at 11 the end of the day would be for May, sO I'm hoping we 12 can get everything we need done by that time. 13 The back room, I know we've touched on 14 that multiple times. So right now we're still 15 waiting for the some of the stuff in there to get 16 moved out. The municipal office right now is moving 17 some stuff around too. We're gonna be getting rid of 18 a lot of old paperwork and, you know, shredding some 19 stuff that's been there forever. So at the moment 20 there's more stuff being moved in there, SO I'm kind 21 of holding off the urgency to get that done for right 22 now. 23 I believe you said the week of the 24 28th when all that stuff is gonna be out of there? 25 MR. HAMBRECHT: For the shredding? ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) DEPOSITION SOLUTIONS EsqureSolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 23 1 CHIEF BORST: Yeah. 2 MR. HAMBRECHT: We're shooting for that 3 week, yeah. 4 CHIEF BORST: Right. 5 MR. HAMBRECHT: Yeah, there's nothing in 6 stone, but we're shooting for it. 7 CHIEF BORST: So hopefully once that's done 8 we can move forward and kind of make contact with 9 them to get their stuff out and move our stuff back 10 there. 11 And I can bring this up right now. I 12 know it's on the agenda for the the additional 13 purchases from Axon for the body cameras and the 14 Tasers. We spoke about it at the public safety 15 meeting, but I'11 just do a recap of what this is. 16 So we have what's called an officer 17 safety package from Axon which covers the entire 18 police department. That was covered by a grant that 19 we were awarded last year, the total funding for that 20 entire purchase, which was ten body cameras I'm 21 sorry. Eight body cameras, eight TASER 7's; and then 22 all the stuff that comes with it: the storage, the 23 software, the support for it, the cartridges, 24 training; there's a bunch of stuff that goes into 25 those packages. ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EPOSITION SOLUTIONS EsquireSolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 24 1 Now that we're hiring two new officers 2 we need more equipment, sO we need twoO more TASER 7's 3 and two more Axon Body 3 cameras. So I spoke with 4 the rep from Axon who gave us our original quote, and 5 the way that he broke it down for us was that it's 6 gonna cost $26,648.40; and that is for two more body 7 cameras and two more Tasers, and there's a I mean 8 if I go through everything there, there's pages and 9 pages. 10 But basically the long and short of 11 it, it covers cartridges, licensing for all the 12 products that we use from them, storage, which is 13 really the big part of the purchase, support from 14 them if something breaks or we have to replace 15 something. 16 What they are able to do for us, the 17 way that we're doing it right now is we're paying it 18 annually, SO we make an annual payment every year. 19 Now, that part of it is covered by the grant, sO 20 that's not, you know, costing the borough money. 21 But what we broke down and we kind of 22 figured was the most efficient way to handle this 23 because it's a pretty big purchase that we didn't 24 anticipate when we got this grant originally. So the 25 way that it would work is it's gonna be made an ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) POSITION SOLUTIONS EsqureSolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 25 1 annual payment still; and the way that it would be 2 oroken down to cover this $26,000, in May of 2025 we 3 would pay $5,329.68, and that would continue on until 4 May of 2029. So essentially it would be $5300 a year 5 until 2029, and the grant covers the rest of it. 6 This is just its own independent quote just for the 7 two pieces that we need. 8 The way that Axon states is that with 9 the packages that we are purchasing, the packages 10 that we did get with the grant, it's saving us money 11 using that package. So they're stating that if we 12 didn't have the package, we'd be paying an extra 13 $2300 a year. The total savings is $11,584. 14 So we need them. The reason that we 15 need them is because in the past we had body cameras 16 that were getting passed around from guy to guy, and 17 girl. They were not great. The body cameras that we 18 had, they're outdated, they're buggy. A lot has 19 changed with the technology since the time that we 20 got those cameras, and we need them. It's important 21 for evidence collection, transpa rency, 22 accountability, everything else, sO. 23 Now the way that these cameras work is 24 that they're issued individually to an officer. So 25 when an officer gets on-boarded, they will get issued ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EPOSITION SOLUTIONS Equresolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 26 1 a camera, they'1l get issued a Taser, and everything 2 is linked between that. They have their own specific 3 profile that's attached to the camera, that's 4 attached to the Taser. They have their own account 5 on what's called evidence.com, and that's where all 6 of our footage goes, all of our evidence goes 7 digitally, and it's tied to officer. 8 We need that for audit trails, we need 9 that to be able to see, you know, what's going on. 10 We can't - - right now what we're running into with 11 our cameras is they're getting passed around sO often 12 it's very hard to kind of keep track of who's wearing 13 it what date; and if we need to pull footage from a 14 specific date and time, we have to go back through 15 our, you know, drives that we're saving this footage 16 on. 17 Evidence.com streamlines everything, 18 it's it puts it to a specific officer, sO it's 19 it's just what we need. And I think based on what it 20 is and that we were lucky to have the grant cover all 21 of it except for these these two items. So that's 22 just the background on that. If anyone has any 23 questions, I'd be more than happy to answer. 24 MR. SCHNAARS: Any questions? I only have 25 one, and it's not concerning those. It's we are ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) POSITION SOLUTIONS EsqureSolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 27 1 still a used an out-of-date drug drop-off point, 2 aren't we? Where people can bring 3 CHIEF BORST: Prescription? 4 MR. SCHNAARS: prescription drugs? 5 CHIEF BORST: Yes. 6 MR. SCHNAARS: Okay. 7 CHIEE BORST: Yes. That is 8 MR. SCHNAARS: Because I hadn't seen 9 anything on that lately, and I just wanted to be 10 sure. 11 CHIEF BORST: Yes. Yeah, that is located 12 in the lobby still. 13 MR. SCHNAARS: Very good. 14 MR. KRATZ: And one final question. The 15 statistical report you gave, that's still with us 16 being at a police deficit? 17 CHIEF BORST: Yes. 18 MR. KRATZ: Officer deficit. 19 CHIEF BORST: Yes. 20 MR. KRATZ: So why how are we able to 21 get an increase in criminal contact? 22 CHIEF BORST: So once we get additional 23 officers on the road we are going to be doing a 24 complete change in the way that our scheduling is and 25 our staffing is. There's a kind of - - a bunch of ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) DEPOSITION SOLUTIONS Esguresolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 28 1 stuff that goes into it with the way that we can 2 schedule. The officers are contracted, sO there's 3 certain things in their contract that we kind of have 4 to abide to cheduling-wise. 5 So the way that it's written right now 6 is the schedules for the officers are either 7 a.m. 7 to 7 p.m. 3 p.m. to 3 a.m., and then 7 p.m. to 7 8 a.m. What we're gonna do once we have a full staff 9 is stagger them the best we can to provide the most 10 coverage that we can at the time. Right now we have 11 one officer out most of the time. We're gonna be up 12 to three hopefully by the beginning of June, July 13 once we get 14 MR. KRATZ: Are we calling in the State 15 Police during the officer deficit time at all? 16 CHIEF BORST: No. No, we have not called 17 the State Police. The State Police come and assist 18 us, but in place of our officers? No. 19 MR. KRATZ: No. Okay. 20 CHIEF BORST: No. We've provided - - at 21 least since November, since I've been in this seat? 22 No. We've provided 24/7 coverage. 23 MR. KRATZ: Thanks. 24 CHIEF BORST: And the answer to your 25 question I'm sorry. Yeah, sO we're gonna be able ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EPOSITION SOLUTIONS Esquresolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 29 1 to run programs again and take part in details that 2 we haven't been able to do in the last couple years. 3 We I bring this up almost every meeting, but we 4 get a lot of money in grants for traffic safety, for, 5 you know, pedestrian safety. There are funds that 6 have been allocated to our department that are 7 sitting there because we don't have the officers to 8 take part. 9 So once - once we are at a staffed 10 capacity we're gonna be able to take part in those 11 programs and DUI roving patrols, basically to have 12 officers out on the road and making proactive 13 contact. 14 Right now it's mostly reactive, it's 15 mostly you know, when we have only a couple guys 16 out there, they're responding to calls, they're doing 17 investigations, they're working on all the stuff that 18 they have backlogged. 19 MR. KRATZ: Right. 20 CHIEF BORST: So right now proactivity, 21 unfortunately, is not taking precedent; but it will 22 be in a few short months, sO I'm excited about that. 23 MR. KRATZ: Thank you. 24 MR. SCHNAARS: Chief Reph? 25 CHIEF REPH: Yeah. I just I just want ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) DEPOSITION SOLUTIONS EsquireSolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 30 1 to touch base a little bit on what Phil was 2 discussing with the radio project. 3 Proposals were due to the county at 4 the end of March, and I got with Roy about this. Our 5 proposal for our radios were would be 36 6 portables, all the necessary charging hardware, 7 programs and necessary channels. Five six-unit 8 chargers SO we can put three in the back and mount 9 two inside the trucks sO we can charge our portables 10 on the go. Five dual-head mobile radios, one base 11 station radio, and all antennas and installation on 12 all the trucks because these mobiles will have GPS 13 tracking. 14 That total comes out to $256,894.20. 15 The only thing that is not covered in there are the 16 speaker microphones for the portable radios. And I'm 17 not sure why, nobody can give me an answer why the 18 county is not adding that onto the bond. It's 19 that's a necessary tool for a mobile radio. I don't 20 understand - or a portable radio, and I don't 21 understand why. 22 But nonetheless, the additional cost 23 for the 36 speaker mikes would be $4,322.02, and that 24 would be due before the total amount because the 25 total amount would be broken down by the county ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) POSITION SOLUTIONS Esquresolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 31 1 per I'm not sure exactly how they're breaking it 2 down, but it's gonna be broken down. 3 So I just want to give you a heads-up 4 on that. It is a little pricey, but unfortunately, 5 we need it. As Phil stated, it has to be done by 6 2026, SO. 7 MR. KRATZ: On another topic? I understand 8 that there was a protocol question that came up 9 regarding the fire department over the last few days. 10 Can you just address, how do we engage another fire 11 department to help us? Is there a pecking order you 12 go through, is there some type of protocol? 13 CHIEF REPH: Well, I set up a a run card 14 with the county, and it goes by on a normal on a 15 normal run card it's us. Then next due would be 16 Walnutport, then Friedens, then Emerald. It picks 17 through all the area fire companies due to their 18 distance from us. 19 And beings with the bridge out, 20 sometimes it makes it a little difficult because 21 sometimes another company has to travel a little 22 further to get around. 23 So we had a call the other day, and 24 the way the the way it showed up on the map it 25 looked like it was on this side of the bridge over in ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) DEPOSITION SOLUTIONS EsquireSolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 32 1 the back here, but it was actually on the other side. 2 So Friedens was actually dispatched to assist us as 3 per our assistant chief request because we had a 4 delayed response due to we were out setting up a 5 fundraiser. 6 And I was questioned about the 7 reasoning why a certain department wasn't called 8 first. So I just wanted to bring that out sO that 9 way everybody is aware. I mean it was 10 MR. KRATZ: So there is an order that we go 11 through typically? 12 CHIEF REPH: Correct, there's an order 13 MR. KRATZ: In this particular case it just 14 was a mistake. 15 CHIEF REPH: Yeah, I mean. And pretty much 16 we can call whoever we want based on 17 MAYOR SCHOCH: So was it a run was it a 18 run card mistake or? 19 CHIEF REPH: No. It was our assistant 20 chief looked at the address and said okay, they're 21 gonna be closer because he thought it was on this 22 side. 23 MAYOR SCHOCH: Oh, gotcha. 24 CHIEF REPH: So that's why he had them 25 dispatched. That's all it was. ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) POSITION SOLUTIONS Esquresolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 33 1 MR. SCHNAARS: Yeah, I remember that truck 2 going by us. 3 CHIEF REPH: Yeah. 4 MR. KRATZ: Thank you. 5 CHIEF REPH: Yeah. No problem. 6 MR. SCHNAARS: Okay. 7 MS. INGLES: And, Bobby, and sometimes it 8 depends what certain departments have depending on 9 what the call is. Like you need ladders for a 10 structure fire. 11 MR. SCHNAARS: Excuse me. The public 12 comment was a while ago. Okay? So if you have 13 questions, please ask him later. 14 MS. INGLES: Okay. 15 MR. SCHNAARS: Thank you. 16 All right. Next we move on to our 17 standing committees. First up is Public Safety. 18 Mr. Kratz? 19 MR. KRATZ: No. 1. Motion to approve 20 addition of $5,300 per year to the Axon for 21 additional Tasers and body cams. I think the chief 22 explained that in some detail; we don't require any 23 more information. 24 MR. MAYBERRY: I'11 second that motion. 25 MR. SCHNAARS: All right. Ron made the ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EPOSITION SOLUTIONS EsquireSolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 34 1 motion, Mayberry made the second. Any questions? 2 May I have a roll call, please, Roy? 3 MR. HAMBRECHT: President Schnaars. 4 MR. SCHNAARS: Yes. 5 MR. HAMBRECHT: Vice President Halkias. 6 MR. HALKIAS: Yes. 7 MR. HAMBRECHT: Councilor Mayberry. 8 MR. MAYBERRY: Yes. 9 MR. HAMBRECHT: Councilor Kratz. 10 MR. KRATZ: Yes. 11 MR. HAMBRECHT: Councilor Steckel. 12 MR. STECKEL: Yes. 13 MR. HAMBRECHT: Councilor Schoch. 14 MR. SCHOCH: Yes. 15 MR. HAMBRECHT: Councilor Schippers. 16 MR. SCHIPPERS: Yes. 17 MR. SCHNAARS: Motion passes 7-0. 18 MR. KRATZ: No. 2. Motion to adopt 19 Ordinance 721 to amend the codified ordinances of the 20 borough to set forth requirements for snow removal 21 contained in Article I, Section 159-2, subsection A. 22 entitled "Snow Removal" and repealer and effective 23 date. 24 MR. SCHNAARS: I have a motion. Do I have 25 a second? ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) OSITION SOLUTIONS EsquireSolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 35 1 MR. MAYBERRY: I'11 second that. 2 MR. SCHNAARS: Councilor Mayberry seconds. 3 May I have a roll call, please. 4 MR. HAMBRECHT: President Schnaars. 5 MR. SCHNAARS: Yes. 6 MR. HAMBRECHT: Vice President Halkias. 7 MR. HALKIAS: Yes. 8 MR. HAMBRECHT: Councilor Mayberry. MR. MAYBERRY: Yes. 10 MR. HAMBRECHT: Councilor Kratz. 11 MR. KRATZ: Yes. 12 MR. HAMBRECHT: Councilor Steckel. 13 MR. STECKEL: Yes. 14 MR. HAMBRECHT: Councilor Schoch. 15 MR. SCHOCH: Yes. 16 MR. HAMBRECHT: Councilor Schippers. 17 MR. SCHIPPERS: Yes. 18 MR. HAMBRECHT: And - okay. 19 MR. SCHNAARS: That's it? Motion passes 20 7-0. Thank you. 21 MR. KRATZ: No. 3. Update from police 22 chief on the status of the investigation room. I 23 believe you already addressed this? 24 CHIEF BORST: Yes. 25 MR. KRATZ: So we'll skip No. 3. ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) DEPOSITION SOLUTIONS EsqureSolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 36 1 No. 4. Update from the police chief 2 on officer, quote, special trainings, for example, 3 autism. This came up from a few residents, and they 4 wanted to know do we have any special courses for the 5 police to attend, as we have a high autism. 6 CHIEF BORST: So it's an interesting 7 question. The answer is yes, we do. They're kind of 8 elective trainings. 9 So just to run down kind of how 10 training works for us. We have, annually we have 11 well, they're called in-service training through 12 MPOETC, which is who - they're the Municipal Police 13 Officer Education Training Commission for 14 Pennsylvania. That's a - when you graduate a police 15 academy and you become Act 120 certified, which is 16 what you need to be a police officer, that is who 17 governs the police in Pennsylvania essentially. 18 Every year MPOETC creates a program of 19 what they deem important training materials for 20 police officers, sO every year we have a block of 21 training that we it's mandatory that you must 22 complete with many different classes. Updates on 23 law, a bunch of stuff gets rolled in there every year 24 for those kind of trainings. Autism training is 25 included in that almost every year. I can't remember ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EPOSITION SOLUTIONS EsquireSolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 37 1 a year where that hasn't been put in there or any 2 kind of special needs really. 3 On top of that we do have elective 4 training that we can send officers to individually. 5 So if if training comes up, it's local, it's I 6 don't want to say cost-etficient but, you know, 7 there's - there's free trainings and there's 8 trainings that we have to pay for as a department. 9 Now, that's budgeted for, we our officers do go to 10 a lot of trainings. So when they do rise about, 11 officers do attend those trainings if they're local 12 and the schedule permits. But the short answer is 13 yes, we do receive training. 14 MR. KRATZ: Opportunities. 15 CHIEF BORST: Absolutely, yes. 16 MAYOR SCHOCH: We also got 17 MR. KRATZ: Do you sorry. Do you decide 18 that they go or does the officer decide? 19 CHIEF BORST: So the way that that works is 20 I tell the officers if there's something that you're 21 interested in going to or if it's something that I 22 see. I get an email list almost every day. There's 23 a ton of schools that offer trainings, there's other 24 police departments locally that offer trainings. So 25 we have a lot coming, you know, through where we say ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EPOSITION SOLUTIONS EsquireSolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 38 1 oh, that's something that the guys should be going 2 to. If I see that. We have a lot of young guys. So 3 right now we have one officer who's in four trainings 4 this week. 5 MR. KRATZ: Oh, okay. 6 CHIEF BORST: So my ideology behind that is 7 it's needed. I mean if - this job is - - if you 8 don't go and push for training, it's not coming to 9 you outside of what you're mandated to do every year, 10 and I just don't believe that that's a good way to 11 operate. 12 MR. KRATZ: So, Chief, is it fair to say 13 that you try to send an officer, for example, to two 14 trainings a year, to five a year? What's the target 15 that we can tell the public? 16 CHIEF BORST: That I would say it depends 17 on, you know, the officer's experience level or, you 18 know, how long they've been on the job. 19 Right now these officers who are 20 coming off of field training, we kind of we don't 21 put them into really any other elective training 22 while they're in field training because it's a lot to 23 shoulder to be learning, you know, policy and 24 procedure just for the borough alone. 25 But once they do get off training we ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EPOSITION SOLUTIONS Esquresolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 39 1 start to, you know, push them towards those programs . 2 You name it, they're out there. We do, you know, 3 drug interdiction training, you know, traffic control 4 training, special needs training, CIT training, all 5 sorts of stuff. 6 MR. KRATZ: Just put it on your radar, 7 please, that the public has asked about autism. 8 CHIEF BORST: Absolutely. And I know this 9 has been touched on betore when Chief Winokur was 10 still here, but like the Blue Envelope Program? 11 MAYOR SCHOCH: Yeah, that's what I was 12 gonna say, the Blue Envelope Program. 13 CHIEF BORST: Yeah. 14 MAYOR SCHOCH: Yes. So they probably don't 15 know what that is. 16 CHIEF BORST: Gotcha. So the Blue Envelope 17 Program is - essentially what it is is we have them 18 available at police headquarters upon request. We 19 also have them that if we encounter somebody out on 20 patrol who is of driving age and special needs. 21 Essentially what it is, it's basically 22 a blue envelope that an individual who suffers from 23 autism or any other kind of special needs, they can 24 fill out this paper. They store that in their 25 vehicle with their registration, their insurance ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) DEPOSITION SOLUTIONS EsgureSolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 40 1 card, their driver's license. When they get stopped 2 by an officer, they hand them this blue envelope. 3 Our officers have been trained to 4 recognize what this - - what this means. This means 5 that I'm suffering from, you know I have special 6 needs, and it will list on there exactly what their 7 condition is, who to contact if there is an 8 emergency. So 9 MR. KRATZ: Excellent. 10 CHIEF BORST: that's one thing that we 11 offer. I just -- I didn't want to be repetitive. I 12 figured that was spoken about before, but yes, 13 that's - that's a big one for us. 14 MAYOR SCHOCH: I don't think they knew 15 about that, yeah. 16 MR. KRATZ: That's the first I'm hearing 17 about that. 18 CHIEF BORST: Okay. 19 MR. KRATZ: That's good to know. Thank 20 you. All right, moving on. Next update, Chief, on 21 grants. Is there any new ones you're desiring or are 22 on your target list? 23 CHIEF BORST: I'm always desiring grants. 24 The most recent that we've looked into was for the 25 vehicle. I spoke on that last meeting I believe. ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) DEPOSITION SOLUTIONS EsquireSolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 41 1 But we did get the quotes for that, we did submit 2 them to Vito. He's gonna be I believe looking into 3 that. 4 MR. KRATZ: Excellent. 5 CHIEF BORST: I think the I don't want 6 to misspeak, but I believe that that that grant 7 opens up in April, sO. 8 MR. KRATZ: Excellent. 9 MR. SCHNAARS: This is April. 10 MR. KRATZ: Yeah. Chief is off the hook 11 there, sO now we'll go to the fire chief. 12 Update from the fire chief on the 13 status of the planned new firetruck. Any more info 14 to share? 15 CHIEF REPH: We're currently picking out 16 colors for the truck, but right now until that's 17 completed it's still they would be waiting for a 18 chassis and everything else like that. 19 MR. KRATZ: And sO Council knows, we 20 haven't committed anything until we get the actual 21 terms that we could look at, SO we couldn't get the 22 financial terms until we go through this process. 23 And that completes Public Safety. 24 MR. SCHNAARS: Okay. Next up, Councilor 25 Schoch, Highway? ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EFOSITION SOLUTIONS EsqureSolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 42 1 MR. SCHOCH: Okay. First we got the review 2 of the roads identified for the CDBG projects for 3 2026. 4 MR. HAMBRECHT: So I'11 start off. So 5 the - the roads, South Street, the two South Street 6 locations from Fourth to Fifth and? Help me out. 7 MS. BARTELS: Fifth to Fourth and then 8 Fourth to Main. 9 MR. HAMBRECHT: Yeah. And Washington 10 Street have been identified, have been we have 11 quotes, and we are moving forward with the 12 application process. They've been submitted? I 13 think they were submitted last Friday, correct? 14 MS. BARTELS: The applications? 15 MR. HAMBRECHT: Yes. 16 MS. BARTELS: I am not I was out in the 17 field. 18 MR. HAMBRECHT: Yeah. So they've been 19 submitted, and we got an acceptance from from 20 PennDOT, I think it's PennDOT, that they have our 21 application. So those three have been submitted for 22 next year for the CDBG program. 23 MR. SCHOCH: Okay? 24 MR. KRATZ: Wait a minute. Did we just do 25 Washington Street? How long ago was that, how long ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) DEPOSITION SOLUTIONS EsqureSolutons.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 43 1 ago did we do Washington 2 MS. BARTELS: East Washington right here? 3 (indicating) 4 MR. SCHNAARS: No. This out this street 5 out here is - 6 MS. BARTELS: No, not not this street 7 but right 8 MR. SCHNAARS: Washington yeah, 9 Washington - 10 MS. BARTELS: On the corner of Hill. 11 MR. SCHNAARS: Street goes up over. 12 MS. BARTELS: Yeah. 13 MR. SCHNAARS: If you took the hundred 14 steps up, you'd be on Washington Street. 15 MS. BARTELS: Oh, no. Right the 16 connection of Hill. 17 CHIEF BORST: Right off of South Walnut 18 Street. 19 MS. BARTELS: Yeah. 20 CHIEF BORST: East Washington Street runs 21 downhill to South Walnut Street. 22 MR. SCHNAARS: Oh, okay. 23 MAYOR SCHOCH: By Hill Street, yeah. 24 MR. SCHNAARS: Yeah, right down in front of 25 my house. Okay. I was just curious, because I know ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EPOSITION SOLUTIONS EsquireSolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 44 1 we did the upper portion a couple years ago. All 2 right. 3 MR. SCHOCH: Okay? Then next we'll have 4 the review of the 100 Steps that was completed by 5 Acela. Acela to provide a summary, and attached is 6 Acela's report. 7 MR. HAMBRECHT: So the hundred steps report 8 is in here from Acela. It is the two. 9 MR. SCHNAARS: Yeah. 10 MR. HAMBRECHT: You may want to take a look 11 at that. So what that gives us is a recommendation 12 from Acela as to what they experienced when they did 13 the excavation. So we're talking about - the 14 position that Acela Acela is taking is that the 15 concrete needs a concrete restoration plan for the 16 walls. Okay? And the handrails are can remain. 17 So the problem, from what I understand 18 about this project, is that PennDOT is saying that 19 the concrete restoration is not sufficient because 20 they're structurally potentially structurally 21 unsound. And the railing has lead paint in it, sO 22 keeping that handrail there is PennDOT is not okay 23 with that. 24 So what we need to do is - I spoke 25 with Michael today, Michael Waldron, and he indicated ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) POSITION SOLUTIONS EsqureSolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 45 1 that he would reach out to PennDOT. He'd get the 2 contacts from Justin at Lehigh, reach out to PennDOT, 3 and move this recommendation to PennDOT and see what 4 their position is on this. 5 MR. SCHNAARS: Okay. 6 MR. HAMBRECHT: So that's where we are. 7 And then after that we'll have to see what the 8 response from PennDOT is, and then we can make a 9 determination as a group whether we want to move 10 forward or not. 11 MAYOR SCHOCH: Well, I also reached out to 12 the county about trying to deem that a historical 13 site, sO that may help us with this project if we can 14 get that deemed historical. 15 MR. SCHNAARS: Been there long enough. 16 MAYOR SCHOCH: Correct. 17 MR. SCHNAARS: Okay. Any questions? 18 MR. HAMBRECHT: Did I capture that? Okay. 19 MS. BARTELS: Yeah. The only thing with 20 the handrails is that the railing height does not 21 appear to be code-compliant is a comment from our 22 structural engineer, sO a historical variance may 23 need to be granted for that. 24 MAYOR SCHOCH: Okay. 25 MR. SCHOCH: All right then. Let's move on ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) POSITION SOLUTIONS EsquireSolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 46 1 to the street sweeper that's on Municibid. 2 MR. HAMBRECHT: So I may have mentioned 3 this to one or two of you. There's a street sweeper 4 that's out in the Pittsburgh area. Right now the bid 5 for that is $10,000. It's a 2012 I believe, has 6 about 70,000 hours on 73,000 miles on it, 10,000 7 hours I believe? Something like that. 8 So we obviously have a sweeper 9 problem. I think our sweeper is probably close to 30 10 years old. Maybe not quite that old. Is it an '03 I 11 believe? 12 MR. SCHNAARS: How old is it, Bob? 13 MR. HERZOG: 1993. 14 MR. HAMBRECHT: Ninety-three, sO it's about 15 32 years old. 16 MR. SCHNAARS: Yeah. 17 MR. HAMBRECHT: So we're taking a look at, 18 number one, what the repairs are gonna potentially 19 look like on this vehicle, the sweeper; and number 20 two, what the cost would be to relocate that here. 21 The cost we determined would be about $2,000 to get 22 it here. First of all, we don't know what the final 23 bid would be. We could put a bid in for it right 24 now. Again it's at $10,000, SO we could put a bid 25 in. It would be another 2,000 to get it here. ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) POSITION SOLUTIONS EsqureSolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 47 1 We don't know what the potential 2 expense would be to get it up and running. There's 3 an engine light that's on, and there's an ABS light 4 that's on in the vehicle, SO it does need some 5 repairs. There's also some hoses that seem to be 6 worn, and we would potentially need to replace those. 7 We don't know what the cost is associated with that. 8 Right now the current sweeper we have, 9 we're looking at a couple thousand dollars worth of 10 repairs. So we have a decision to make at some 11 point. That is, we need the sweeping done now, sO 12 we're thinking of moving forward with the current 13 sweeper we have, the oh the 1993 model, because we 14 just - the unknown with the other one is just 15 it's too much of a risk I think. But we also need to 16 figure out : that the '93 is not gonna last forever, 17 and we're gonna have to make a decision on what we're 18 gonna do. 19 So again, we're gonna move forward 20 with the repairs. We can continue to look at 21 we're gonna continue to look at the one on Municibid 22 and see if we can determine what the cost would be to 23 repair it sO we have a better we can make a better 24 informed decision, but at some point we're gonna have 25 to make a decision on what we want to do with this ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) DEPOSITION SOLUTIONS EsqureSolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 48 1 and move forward. So there's still some unknowns 2 that we have to vet. 3 MAYOR SCHOCH: Is somebody gonna actually 4 like go go physically look at it? 5 MR. HAMBRECHT: Well, it's a four-and-a- 6 half-hour drive. Bobby and I spoke about that today. 7 It's something we could do. I asked Bobby if we knew 8 anyone out there that could give us an independent 9 assessment of the vehicle. We don't know anyone out 10 there. So yeah, I mean it's a it would be a road 11 trip. 12 MR. KRATZ: If I could, Bobby, how much 13 would you invest in the existing one before you'd 14 give up the ghost? 15 MR. HERZOG: It's hard to say, because 16 every year we fix it, and then something else comes 17 up. The problem with it now never happened before, 18 you know what I'm saying? You fix the spark plug, 19 and now the distributor cap went out, and the next 20 year the wire goes out, the next year a tire goes 21 out. It's because it's sO old. 22 MR. SCHNAARS: Plus it's leaking. 23 MR. HERZOG: Pardon? 24 MR. SCHNAARS: Isn't it leaking hydraulic 25 fluid? ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) POSITION SOLUTIOHS Esquresolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 49 1 MR. HERZOG: No. That was all fixed. 2 MR. SCHNAARS: That was all fixed. Okay. 3 MR. KRATZ: So it's your opinion you'd give 4 up the ghost or - 5 MR. HERZOG: I would fix it right now 6 because we need it. I found all the parts, they're 7 all ordered, everything is ready to go, possibly next 8 week to fix it. 9 MR. HAMBRECHT: And I've also had 10 conversations with Walnutport about possibly using 11 their services and compensating them for that. 12 Apparently they have a new vehicle that they may be 13 willing to, you know, work out an arrangement with us 14 for that. So if it's completely belly up and we 15 can't make any more repairs, then that may be an 16 option, but that's a limited option. We need to make 17 a decision at some point. 18 MR. SCHNAARS: Do we have a ballpark figure 19 of what a new one would cost? 20 MR. HAMBRECHT: Well, apparently Walnutport 21 spent about 380, 380,000 on theirs. I'm hearing 22 about 300,000. I don't know if that's accurate. 23 MAYOR SCHOCH: I think they got theirs with 24 a grant. 25 MR. HERZOG: Yes. ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) DEPOSITION SOLUTIONS EsqguireSolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 50 1 MR. HAMBRECHT: Yeah. 2 MAYOR SCHOCH: They got theirs with a 3 grant. 4 MR. HERZOG: And they put every bell and 5 whistle on it that they could because of the grant. 6 We don't need all that stufi. 7 MR. SCHNAARS: So we're looking at 300,000 8 plus. 9 MR. HAMBRECHT: Yeah. And just to expand 10 on that a little bit. I've had conversations with 11 Vito about the sweeper, and that is a possibility, 12 but it would be used = we would be using the LCA 13 grant, which we've identified for a police vehicle 14 now, and no way we're gonna get two shots at that 15 this year, SO it would obviously have to wait till 16 next year. 17 And my understanding is the sweeper is 18 really used in the springtime? 19 MR. HERZOG: That or if a special event 20 comes up or somebody dumps something on Main Street. 21 We have to put sand down, and then we use it. It's 22 mostly right now. 23 MR. HAMBRECHT: But with the LCA not 24 coming not being available until next year around 25 April/May, and then applications and then vetting ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) POSITION SOLUTIONS Esquresolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 51 1 those applications, we probably wouldn't get a new 2 vehicle until later in '26. 3 MR. SCHNAARS: Yeah. 4 MR. KRATZ: If we do a deal with 5 Walnutport, our guys would drive it or that their 6 guys would have to? 7 MR. HAMBRECHT: I don't we haven't gone 8 that far yet. We - I would think we'd pay for their 9 services to operate the vehicle. 10 MR. SCHNAARS: Yeah, one of the extras 11 they've got on that is that hose that will clean out 12 the storm drains, right? 13 MR. HERZOG: Well, the one we're looking at 14 has that too. 15 MR. SCHNAARS: Okay. 16 MR. HERZOG: It's not a sweeper, it's a 17 vac. 18 MR. SCHNAARS: Okay. 19 MR. HERZOG: That's what Walnutport has, a 20 vac. 21 MR. SCHNAARS: A vac. Okay. 22 MR. HERZOG: That's what this one we're 23 looking at is a vac. It's a big difference. 24 MR. SCHNAARS: Any idea what the difference 25 is in life expectancy? ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) DEPOSITION SOLUTIONS EsqureSolutlons.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 52 1 MR. HERZOG: It depends on how hard you use 2 it. The life expectancy in the city on a sweeper is 3 six years. 4 MR. SCHNAARS: Right. And on a vac? You 5 know, I'm just looking if there's some way 6 MR. HERZOG: It depends on what you do to 7 it, what you pick up with it. That's part of the 8 problem with the two hoses that are bad on it. 9 MR. SCHNAARS: Right. 10 MR. HERZOG: Those are the main hoses that 11 make it vac. They have holes in them, sO they have 12 to be replaced if we get this. What they cost? I 13 don't know. They're heavy, big hoses. They're 14 rubber. 15 MR. MAYBERRY: Bobby, are we still able to 16 get parts easily for this 1993 sweeper? 17 MR. HERZOG: Yeah. I have a direct line to 18 Fred Flintstone, he has them all. Yes, some of them. 19 It depends what it is. 20 MR. MAYBERRY: I thought you and I talked 21 once before, and you had said it was getting very, 22 very 23 MR. HERZOG: Yes. 24 MR. MAYBERRY: difficult to find parts? 25 MR. HERZOG: When the guy when I called ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EPOSITION SOLUTIONS squreSolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 53 1 there, they said let me get the stone tablet book out 2 sO we can find the parts for that, SO. It's unheard 3 of to have one this long, yeah. Yeah, it's we got 4 it running, but when we bought this - I still have 5 the pink slip for it. In '93 it was $80,000. 6 MR. HAMBRECHT: And just out of curiosity, 7 Bobby, how many hours do we have on this vehicle 8 compared 9 MR. HERZOG: I really don't know to tell 10 you the truth. 11 MR. HAMBRECHT: Really? 12 MR. HERZOG: I haven't looked lately. 13 MR. MAYBERRY: Did you max out the odometer 14 on it by any chance? 15 MR. HERZOG: No. No. 16 MR. HAMBRECHT: I mean I'm just wondering 17 if the one that we're looking at on Municibid is near 18 its life expectancy at 10,000 hours or whatever that 19 was. 20 MR. HERZOG: I think it's more than that. 21 I mean it's got 10,000 on it. But I think the way we 22 use it we're not using it every day like the 23 cities do. 24 MR. HAMBRECHT: Yeah. 25 MR. HERZOG: Like Allentown has eight of ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EPOSITION SOLUTIONS Esquresolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 54 1 them; they're out every day. They have eight guys 2 driving them every day, one a different part of the 3 city. That's all they're hired to do. The guy that 4 runs that department lives on Welshtown Road, and he 5 tells us all about it. 6 MR. SCHNAARS: It sounds to me like even if 7 we spend twenty-five, thirty thousand dollars 8 repairing this one, it's a - - it's a buy over a new 9 one. 10 MR. HAMBRECHT: No. I agree. 11 So, Bobby, the individual that you're 12 using to repair our current model 13 MR. HERZOG: Right. 14 MR. HAMBRECHT: would he have some 15 insight as to what it would cost? 16 MR. HERZOG: It's - - it's the company that 17 built them. 18 MR. HAMBRECHT: So maybe we could reach out 19 to him and kind of get an idea of what the hose 20 replacements would cost and sO on? 21 MR. HERZOG: I can if I had : see, they 22 want model and serial numbers because there's sO many 23 different ones right away sO they can look the parts 24 up. That's the first thing they ask you when you 25 call them. ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EPOSITION SOLUTIONS EsqureSolutons.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 55 1 MR. HAMBRECHT : Maybe he can give us a 2 worst-case scenario estimate. 3 MR. HERZOG: I don't know if it's in that 4 paperwork I gave you from online, if the model and 5 serial numbers are in there. 6 MR. SCHNAARS: All-righty. 7 MR. KRATZ: Thank you. 8 MR. SCHNAARS: Next? 9 MR. SCHOCH: That concludes for the 10 Highway. 11 MR. SCHNAARS: Okay. Next is 12 Human/Community Services. Councilor Halkias? 13 MR. HALKIAS: Item 1. The committee 14 reviewed the request from the Northern Lehigh 15 Recreation requesting the use of Victory Park from 6 16 p.m. to 8 p.m. for the events as follows: 17 June 20th, 2025, The Wonton Soups; 18 July 11th, AM Radio Tribute Band; August 1st, Steel 19 Creek; August 15th, Band of Brothers. 20 Wednesday UnWine'd at the Trailhead: 21 July 9th Jeni Hackett; twenty or excuse me. July 22 23rd The Two Taboo; August 6th Eliza Rush; August 23 21st BURN Unplugged; August 27th Jagged Rose; 24 September 10th Two of a Kind. 25 Day in the Park at Victory Park, ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) DEPOSITION SOLUTIONS EsquireSolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 56 1 request for alcohol sales on July 19th from 2 to 9 2 p.m., and Candy Cane Hunt at Victory Park December 3 13th, 2025, from 10 a.m. to 11 a.m. 4 MR. SCHNAARS: Is that a motion to approve? 5 MR. SCHIPPERS: I have one real quick 6 question. The for all this, only one of them is 7 down here, correct? 8 MR. SCHNAARS: No. No, where it says 9 Wednesday UnWine'd? 10 MR. SCHIPPERS: Right. Wednesday, that's 11 the one I'm thinking - 12 MR. SCHNAARS: The next - the next several 13 of them are all for the trailhead. 14 MR. SCHIPPERS: All of - okay. All right. 15 MR. SCHNAARS: All right? 16 MR. SCHIPPERS: Yeah. Sorry. Yeah. 17 MR. SCHNAARS: : Okay. So are you making a 18 motion to approve these, Zach? 19 MR. HALKIAS: Yes. 20 MR. SCHNAARS: All right. I have a motion 21 to approve these dates. 22 MR. KRATZ: Second. 23 MR. SCHNAARS: I have a second. Are there 24 any further questions? If not, all those in favor 25 please signify by saying aye. ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) OSITION SOLUTIONS Esquresolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 57 1 (Voice vote.) 2 MR. SCHNAARS: Any opposed? Abstentions? 3 Motion passes. 4 MR. HALKIAS: Item 2. A motion to approve 5 request for Caring Hearts 3rd Annual Rock the Park & 6 Food Truck Festival at Victory Park on Saturday, 7 September 20th, 2025, from 8 a.m. to 10 p.m. with a 8 rain date of Sunday, September 21st. 9 MR. MAYBERRY: Second. 10 MR. SCHNAARS: All right. The application 11 is in our packet, but I think that what needs to be 12 added to that motion is provided they provide the 13 insurance forms that we requested. Do you agree to 14 that change? 15 MR. HALKIAS: Yes. 16 MR. SCHNAARS: Do you agree to the change? 17 MR. MAYBERRY: Yes. 18 MR. SCHNAARS: Okay. So all those in favor 19 signify by saying aye. 20 (Voice vote.) 21 MR. SCHNAARS: Any opposed? That motion 22 passes. 23 MR. HALKIAS: Item 3. Motion to approve 24 request for Caring Hearts 9th Annual Project Warm & 25 Cozy and Community Christmas Trees at Victory Park on ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EPOSITION SOLUTIONS EsquireSolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 58 1 Saturday, December 6th, 2025, from 8 a.m. to 7 p.m. 2 with a rain date of Sunday, December 7th, a 3 certificate of insurance required. 4 MR. SCHNAARS: Okay. I have a motion. Do 5 I have a second? 6 MR. SCHIPPERS: I'11 second that. 7 MR. SCHNAARS: I have a second by Councilor 8 Schippers. Any questions? Comments? Hearing none. 9 All those in favor signify by saying aye. 10 (Voice vote.) 11 MR. SCHNAARS: Any opposed? Abstentions? 12 Motion passes. 13 MR. HALKIAS: Item 4. Motion to approve 14 request from Northern Lehigh Events Committee to hold 15 the annual Halloween Parade on Saturday, October 16 25th, 2025. 17 MR. MAYBERRY: I'11 second that. 18 MR. SCHNAARS: I have a motion and seconded 19 by Councilor Mayberry. Any questions? And that 20 and everything that's in the paperwork before you. 21 Discussion? Hearing none. 22 MR. MAYBERRY: So you're willing, guys, to 23 keep it going even if it is a smaller capacity? 24 MR. HALLMAN: It will be small. 25 MR. MAYBERRY: Yeah. ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) DEPOSITION SOLUTIONS Esquresolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 59 1 MR. HALLMAN: Yeah. 2 THE REPORTER: I'm sorry. Your name is? 3 MR. HALLMAN: Russell Hallman. 4 MR. SCHNAARS: Okay. All those in favor 5 signify by saying aye. 6 (Voice vote.) 7 MR. SCHNAARS: Any opposed? Abstentions? 8 Motion passes. 9 MR. HALKIAS: I do have one more thing 10 before we end this committee. At the last workshop 11 meeting I mentioned a service on the slatington.org 12 website, sort of a directory for people willing to do 13 grass and snow around town, given our older 14 population and the new ordinance we proposed. 15 MR. SCHNAARS: If you want - - if you want 16 to take action on that, first you have to make a 17 motion to amend the agenda to include that item. 18 Okay? 19 MR. HALKIAS: Well, I don't know what the 20 rest of the Council thinks. You know, there's 21 details before action to be taken to be discussed, if 22 we wanted to do that tonight. 23 MR. KRATZ: When you say details, what has 24 to be discussed? 25 MR. HALKIAS: Well, like the idea I ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) DEPOSITION SOLUTIONS EsqureSolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 60 1 proposed was this to be sort of a directory for 2 people to do that, and we could charge like a 3 seasonal fee. You know, what would that be and for 4 how long, that kind of stuff. 5 MR. KRATZ: That really should be done in 6 committee I think first then. 7 MR. SCHNAARS: Yes, work out the details in 8 committee I think before you bring it here. Okay? 9 MR. HALKIAS: Okay. So next meeting. All 10 right. Then that concludes the Human/Community 11 Services. 12 MR. SCHNAARS: Okay. Very good. 13 Finance, Planning, and Zoning. 14 Councilor Mayberry. 15 MR. MAYBERRY: All right. No. 1. Motion 16 to approve special report on audit of sewage 17 treatment costs and charges per agreement dated June 18 30th, 1999, with Washington Township; 2022 report 19 attached. 20 MR. SCHNAARS: Okay. 21 MR. KRATZ: What's the background on this? 22 MR. SCHNAARS: It's what we charge them. 23 MR. MAYBERRY: Um-hum. 24 MS. YOUNG: These reports are issued when 25 the main audit is complete. The special reports can ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) POSITION SOLUTIONS Esquresolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 61 1 then be done sO that the costs can be apportioned and 2 billed. 3 MR. KRATZ: It's 2022? 4 MS. YOUNG: Yes. 5 MR. KRATZ: It's '25. 6 MS. YOUNG: Exactly. 7 MR. SCHNAARS: So I have a motion to 8 approve it. Is there a sec? We bill them for the 9 use of our plant. This is the audit that allows us 10 to do that. 11 MR. KRATZ: I'm sorry. Just betore 12 before we approve, how do we know it's correct or 13 it's - it's a fixed amount that we're billing for or 14 it's based on usage? 15 MS. YOUNG: Percentage, yes, that's 16 attributed to their flows. 17 MR. KRATZ: Got it, got it. I'm sorry. 18 MR. SCHNAARS: Okay? 19 MR. KRATZ: Yeah. 20 MR. SCHNAARS: Any other questions? 21 MR. SCHIPPERS: Is it still the same cost 22 as 2022? 23 MR. SCHNAARS: No. It's the 2022 cost that 24 we're billing them for. 25 MR. KRATZ: Yeah. ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EPOSITION SOLUTIONS Esquresolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 62 1 MR. SCHIPPERS: Oh, okay. 2 MR. SCHNAARS: Okay? 3 MR. SCHIPPERS: All right. Now I get it. 4 MR. KRATZ: Because the audit wasn't done 5 back then. 6 MR. SCHNAARS: That's why we worked sO hard 7 to get the audits done. 8 MR. SCHIPPERS: Got it. 9 MR. SCHNAARS: Okay? 10 MR. SCHOCH: Second. 11 MR. SCHNAARS: Okay. I've got a second by 12 Councilor Schoch. 13 MR. HAMBRECHT: I'm sorry. Who was first? 14 MR. SCHNAARS: Councilor Mayberry. 15 MR. MAYBERRY: I made the motion. 16 MR. SCHNAARS: Any further discussion on 17 this? Okay. May I have a roll call vote on this, 18 please, Roy. 19 MR. HAMBRECHT: President Schnaars. 20 MR. SCHNAARS: Yes. 21 MR. HAMBRECHT: Vice President Halkias. 22 MR. HALKIAS: Yes. 23 MR. HAMBRECHT: Councilor Mayberry. 24 MR. MAYBERRY: Yes. 25 MR. HAMBRECHT: Councilor Kratz. ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) POSITION SOLUTIONS EsquireSolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 63 1 MR. KRATZ: Yes. 2 MR. HAMBRECHT: Councilor Steckel. 3 MR. STECKEL: Yes. 4 MR. HAMBRECHT: Councilor Schoch. 5 MR. SCHOCH: Yes. 6 MR. HAMBRECHT: Councilor Schippers. 7 MR. SCHIPPERS: Yes. 8 MR. SCHNAARS: Seven yes; motion passes. 9 MR. MAYBERRY: All right. No. 2. Wells 10 Fargo Advisors is no longer going to serve the 11 borough beginning April 1st, 2025. As per Steve 12 Carr, PIGIT is a very good option. Better rates than 13 anything else around. Attached is a proposed 14 resolution that we should review prior to bringing to 15 Council for approval. After speaking with Wells 16 Fargo, the funding can remain with Wells until 17 Council votes to move forward with a vendor. 18 So the resolution is here. Could we 19 vote to approve that tonight then? 20 MR. SCHNAARS: If they're I have are 21 you making it a motion? 22 MR. MAYBERRY: I can. 23 MR. SCHNAARS: Okay, got a motion. I need 24 a second. 25 MR. KRATZ: I'1l second it. ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EPOSITION SOLUTIONS EsquireSolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 64 1 MR. SCHNAARS: Okay. Ron seconds it. 2 MR. MAYBERRY: Should I reword it as 3 MR. SCHNAARS: Discussion now. 4 MR. MAYBERRY: Oh. Should I reword it as 5 like motion next = or resolution next number? 6 MR. SCHNAARS: Yeah. Okay, you can do 7 that, whatever the next number is. 8 MR. MAYBERRY: Yeah. I've lost track. 9 MR. SCHNAARS: : Now, this : - Lisa, do you 10 want to comment on this? 11 MS. YOUNG: And actually it's supposed to 12 be PLGIT, not PIGIT. 13 MR. SCHNAARS: Okay. 14 MR. MAYBERRY: Oh. Sorry. 15 MR. SCHNAARS: : Well, we'd like to pig-it, 16 you know what I mean? The more they can give us the 17 better. 18 MS. YOUNG: It's essentially a municipal 19 trust, and they have much better rates than Wells 20 Fargo or other conventional banks. And they're very 21 stable, and I'm familiar with them for the past 30 22 years. They've been very very conservative in 23 their actions. They're well-funded, well-utilized by 24 a lot of the townships as well; and they do a very 25 good job at what they do. ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EPOSITION SOLUTIONS EsqureSolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 65 1 MR. MAYBERRY: Um-hum. They had the triple 2 A rating I saw when I looked into it as well. 3 MS. YOUNG: And historically have been 4 sound, very sound. 5 MR. KRATZ: So is there a reason we weren't 6 using them before? 7 MR. MAYBERRY: Well, before we were 8 using - 9 MR. SCHNAARS: It never came up to the 10 Council. 11 MR. KRATZ: Never came up to Council. 12 MR. MAYBERRI: Yeah, probably. 13 MR. SCHNAARS: I mean that's that's 14 usually the reason why. 15 MR. MAYBERRY: Just went with whatever was 16 local I assume instead of looking around. 17 MR. SCHNAARS: Well, I wouldn't say that, 18 but we didn't always get the best advice let's just 19 say. 20 MR. MAYBERRY: Yeah. 21 MR. SCHNAARS: Okay. So any further 22 questions? Are you ready for a vote? 23 MR. MAYBERRY: Um-hum. 24 MR. SCHNAARS: Okay. May I have a roll 25 call, please, Roy. ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) DEFOSITION SOLUTIONS Esquresolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON 30ROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 66 1 MR. HAMBRECHT: President Schnaars. 2 MR. SCHNAARS: Yes. 3 MR. HAMBRECHT: Vice President Halkias. 4 MR. HALKIAS: Yes. 5 MR. HAMBRECHT: Councilor Mayberry. 6 MR. MAYBERRY: Yes. 7 MR. HAMBRECHT: Councilor Kratz. 8 MR. KRATZ: Yes. 9 MR. HAMBRECHT: Councilor Steckel. 10 MR. STECKEL: Yes. 11 MR. HAMBRECHT: Councilor Schoch. 12 MR. SCHOCH: Yes. 13 MR. HAMBRECHT: Councilor Schippers. 14 MR. SCHIPPERS: Yes. 15 MR. SCHNAARS: That's seven yeses. Motion 16 passes. 17 MR. MAYBERRY: No. 3. Discussion and 18 possible motion concerning moving William Smith from 19 alter wait. I'm sorry. Don't we have to appoint 20 Mr. Smith as an alternate member? 21 MR. SCHIPPERS: Yes. 22 MR. MAYBERRY: Yes. 23 MS. YOUNG: Is he currently? 24 MR. MAYBERRY: No. No, we don't have an 25 alternate currently. ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EPOSITION SOLUTIONS Esquresolutons.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 67 1 MS. YOUNG: So then it would be 2 MR. MAYBERRY: We need to appoint him an 3 alternate then, sO. I'm just saying I don't think 4 it's I don't think it's written in here no, I 5 don't think it's written in here right. 6 MAYOR SCHOCH: I don't think it's correct. 7 MR. MAYBERRY: Yeah, no. 8 MAYOR SCHOCH: Because in his letter it 9 says his interest in serving as an alternate member 10 of the Zoning Hearing Board. 11 MR. MAYBERRY: Yes. We have a full hearing 12 board right now, we need an alternate. So 13 MAYOR SCHOCH: So it's not written correct 14 on the agenda. 15 MR. MAYBERRY: it's not written here 16 right. So let me let me rephrase it. I would 17 like to make a motion to appoint William Smith as an 18 alternate member of our Zoning Hearing Board. 19 MR. KRATZ: Second. 20 MR. SCHNAARS: Okay. Any discussion? All 21 those in favor signify by saying aye. 22 (Voice vote.) 23 MR. SCHNAARS: Any opposed? Abstentions? 24 Motion passes. 25 MR. MAYBERRY: All right. No. 4. Review ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EPOSITION SOLUTIONS EsqguireSolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 68 1 of current budget status. 2 MR. HAMBRECHT: Okay. If everyone can see 3 it. If I need to enlarge it, let me know. 4 MR. KRATZ: Make it a little 5 MAYOR SCHOCH: Can you make it a little 6 bigger, please? 7 MR. MAYBERRY: It's like unanimous. 8 MR. HAMBRECHT: Is that better? 9 MR. KRATZ: No. 10 MAYOR SCHOCH: No. 11 MR. HAMBRECHT: It doesn't get much bigger. 12 MAYOR SCHOCH: Okay. That's better. 13 MR. HAMBRECHT: Okay. So let me first 14 let me first show you the budget from last month, and 15 that's this right here. Can everybody see that? 16 MAYOR SCHOCH: Um-hum. 17 MR. HAMBRECHT: Okay. So last month we 18 looked at expenditures right here of 1.15 million. 19 That was our actual to date through the end of 20 February. Now, going to March we are at $734,000, 21 and you'll probably ask why. 22 Okay. Last month we spoke about the 23 three expenditures that were for lack of a better 24 term neglected. So I've identified those, the 25 512,000. 379,000, 119,000, and 13,000, for a total ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) POSITION SOLUTIONS EsqureSolutlons.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 69 1 of 512,000. Those expenditures were backed out of 2 our current budget, which puts us down around 3 734,000. 4 MR. SCHNAARS: Okay. 5 MR. HAMBRECHT: Okay. Does that make 6 sense? 7 MR. SCHNAARS: Yes. 8 MR. HAMBRECHT: Okay. So just generally we 9 are we should be at around 25 percent 10 expenditures, as we just completed the first quarter. 11 Right now you can see we're at 12 percent, sO we're 12 low on our expenditures. 13 Now, in April we have a couple large 14 expenditures that will be hitting when I report next 15 month. Okay? Some of those were VANCOM for 16 $200,000. So we got some large expenditures that are 17 gonna hit which will get that number up. 18 One of the things that I want to bring 19 to everyone's attention is that we really can't do an 20 analysis of what our spend was last year and compare 21 it to how we're spending this year. That's part of 22 the problem. So 12 percent seems a little low to me. 23 We should be, like I said, up around 25 percent of 24 budget right now. But again, we can't compare 25 because we simply don't have those numbers. ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EPOSITION SOLUTIONS EsquireSolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 70 1 The only numbers we have are total 2 expenditures by general ledger account line. We 3 don't have how the expenditures were paid throughout 4 the year. So I don't know if they were at 25 percent 5 last year at this point or 30 percent or 15 percent. 6 We don't know. 7 MR. KRATZ: We will get them though, right? 8 They're just not caught up yet. 9 MR. HAMBRECHT: Well, it's not a question 10 of getting caught up. It's a question of right now I 11 have ClearGov, which was approved last month, I have 12 them working on I sent them all the data I have 13 for the last five years, and they're mapping it right 14 now. So once they map it, then I'11 have a better 15 idea of where we are compared to other years. 16 MR. KRATZ: When was the last time we had 17 the actual budget to actuals? How long, how far 18 back do we have to go? 19 MR. HAMBRECHT: I mean you guys can answer 20 that better than I can. 21 MR. SCHNAARS: The last time the budget was 22 entered in the accounting was 2020. 23 MAYOR SCHOCH: 2020, right. 24 MR. HAMBRECHT: Yeah. 25 MR. SCHNAARS: So it's for the last four ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EPOSITION SOLUTIONS Esquresolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 71 1 years. 2 MR. MAYBERRY: So the last time you got 3 that report in the council paperwork. 4 MR. SCHNAARS: Right. 5 MR. HAMBRECHT: And let me - let me just 6 be really clear. The data I gave to ClearGov, the 7 only data I had was expenditures, total expenditures 8 at the end of the year by general ledger account. So 9 again, I don't have it broken down by the months, SO 10 we're never gonna know if we're spending at the same 11 rate that we were in prior years. I hope that's 12 clear. 13 MR. KRATZ: It's very Clear. 14 MR. MAYBERRY: Yeah. 15 MR. SCHNAARS: At least we know what we're 16 spending. 17 MR. HAMBRECHT: Yeah. 18 MR. MAYBERRY: Yeah. 19 MR. HAMBRECHT: So just to kind of give you 20 a visual. So let's look at General Fund, for 21 example. Let me back this up. So if I just look at 22 just the general ledger, for those that are that 23 prefer visual, this kind of gives you an idea of 24 where we are. 25 So the orange is the budget. The ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EPOSITION SOLUTIONS Esquresolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 72 1 orange is the budget, the dark blue is the actual 2 expenditure, and the light blue is where we should be 3 relative to the time of year. So we're way under 4 right now. And that's the case with sewer, water, 5 fire, everything. So we're underspending, sO we have 6 some Elexibility in our spending. 7 MR. KRATZ: But your simple point is you 8 don't know through the course of the year is it 9 equally by month or do we have a high peak in the 10 second quarter, third quarter, et cetera. 11 MR. HAMBRECHT: Exactly. I mean there's 12 probably some seasonal spending that I'm not aware 13 of, but we can't see it because we just don't have 14 that data. 15 MR. KRATZ: Right. So to say that we're 16 underspending, we really have no idea. 17 MR. HAMBRECHT: We really don't. We're 18 underspending - we're underspending, yeah, as just a 19 general percentage of where we should be 20 MR. KRATZ: Right. 21 MR. HAMBRECHT: to the budget. 22 MR. SCHNAARS: But the other thing, too, 23 it's like we haven't had a lot of snow this year, sO 24 all the stuff we budgeted for snow removal is well 25 under I'm sure. ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) POSITION SOLUTIONS Esquresolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 73 1 MR. KRATZ: Right. But we're talking 50 2 percent off. 3 MR. SCHNAARS: Yeah, I hear you. Those are 4 the kinds of things that skew it. 5 MR. KRATZ: Yeah. 6 MR. HAMBRECHT: So to kind of reiterate 7 some points that I made last month, but I just wanted 8 to kind of hit on them again. 9 (Sound system making noise.) 10 MR. SCHNAARS: Where did that come from? 11 It's off, right? Didn't you turn the sound system 12 off? 13 CHIEF REPH: No. It stopped, sO I left it 14 go. But now it's starting again. 15 MR. SCHNAARS: Would you turn it off, 16 please? Thank you. We're gonna have to have 17 somebody look at our sound system. You guys will all 18 have to speak a little louder. 19 MR. HAMBRECHT: Okay. So again a couple 20 points that I want to make. Due to the lack of 21 budgetary information in previous years, Borough 22 Council, one, was unable to make informed decisions 23 regarding the budget and budget op the borough 24 operations. 25 Borough Council was reluctant to ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) DEFOSITION SOLUTIONS Esquresolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 74 1 approve budget due to lack of information or had 2 trouble approving budget due to lack of information. 3 Was unable to detect potential fraud, 4 which is a primary responsibility of the Council. 5 Borough Council could not properly 6 determine revenue needs as it related to potential 7 tax increases or reductions. 8 And finally, budget consistency. 9 There was none. We can't track budget consistency, 10 and we don't know where the money was being spent. 11 And part of the problem that we're 12 dealing with to get some budget consistency is the 13 way the the way the general ledger accounts are 14 structured. You could have been - we could have 15 been paying for expense A in one account and expense 16 B in another account, and the next year we may have 17 flip-flopped those. Because the general ledger 18 accounts are very vague, sO we don't know where money 19 was put, we don't know in the prior administration 20 where they put an expenditure. We may be putting it 21 in account A this year. They may have put it in 22 account B last year. We don't know. 23 MR. KRATZ: So we can't we can't get any 24 of the audits approved until all this is corrected, 25 sO now we're we're good up to when? ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EPOSITION SOLUTIONS squreSoluions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 75 1 MR. HAMBRECHT: Say that I'm sorry? 2 MR. KRATZ: We're good up to where now? 3 MR. HAMBRECHT: Where we are? So if you're 4 talking about the audits 5 MR. KRATZ: Yeah. 6 MR. HAMBRECHT: we're talking about the 7 2022 audit should be completed by the end of May. 8 MR. KRATZ: And, Lisa, does that give you 9 the confidence to sign off? 10 MS. YOUNG: I have on 2022. I forwarded my 11 opinion letter, which mostly dealt with litigation 12 and things that I could gather from documentation 13 review, because I was only here part of the year in 14 2022. 15 MR. KRATZ: But now just for my 16 edification. We're trying to get a grant to secure a 17 police car, et cetera. Is - we're only up to 2022. 18 Is that going to hurt us in getting these grants? 19 MS. YOUNG: Yeah. 20 MR. KRATZ: Yeah. 21 MR. HAMBRECHT: So where we are right now 22 with the PENNVEST grant for the water meters is that 23 they have accepted our 2019, 2020, and 2021 24 financials, but they want to see updates as we move 25 through this process, they want to see the 2022 when ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EPOSITION SOLUTIONS EsqureSolutons.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 76 1 it hits. They said they're willing to move forward, 2 but they do want to see those updates. 3 MAYOR SCHOCH: Are they giving us a time 4 frame? 5 MR. HAMBRECHT: No. 6 MAYOR SCHOCH: Okay. 7 MR. HAMBRECHT: I told - sO I reached out 8 to Mario at our audit firm, and I asked him for a 9 timeline on when he thought he would get these audits 10 completed. He provided that to me, I provided that 11 to PENNVEST. They were okay with that as long as we 12 meet those targets. 13 MAYOR SCHOCH: Okay. And is - - is Mario 14 confident he's going to meet those targets? 15 MR. HAMBRECHT: I have it in writing. I 16 hope he's 17 MAYOR SCHOCH: Okay. 18 MR. HAMBRECHT: I'11 be - I'11 be rattling 19 his cage and following up with him, sO yeah. 20 MAYOR SCHOCH: Okay. Well, just sO that we 21 don't miss out on this grant. 22 MR. HAMBRECHT: No. 23 MAYOR SCHOCH: Because I mean this is a big 24 one. 25 MR. HAMBRECHT: It's a big one. Yeah. ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EPOSITION SOLUTIONS EsqureSolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 77 1 MS. YOUNG: Now, PENNVEST is handled a 2 little bit differently than some of the others that 3 are more grant and less of a loan. You know, that 4 there's a little different qualifying and rating 5 involved with PENNVEST versus some of the others. 6 I know for CDBG, you know, if the 7 state wants to get picky they're gonna they can 8 say your three most recent years, sO they would be 9 looking for '24, '23, and '22. 10 MAYOR SCHOCH: Yeah, but obviously they 11 haven't done that in the previous years past - 12 MS. YOUNG: Right. 13 MAYOR SCHOCH: or we would never have 14 been granted them. 15 MS. YOUNG: Right. Although they might 16 only have way back, sO they might you know, maybe 17 2022 would make them happy because maybe '19 was the 18 last they saw. 19 MR. HAMBRECHT: We're sO far low I guess. 20 MS. YOUNG: Who knows, yeah. Yeah. 21 MAYOR SCHOCH: But the point is I mean 22 regardless, it doesn't matter. Like it should be up 23 to date sO we could show them current. 24 MS. YOUNG: Yeah. 25 MR. SCHNAARS: Yeah, it should be, and ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EPOSITION SOLUTIONS EsquireSolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 78 1 we're working on it. I'm told that, you know, when I 2 was last talking to that company, they thought that 3 they would have everything caught up by the end of 4 August, SO. 5 MR. HAMBRECHT: And I think they're on 6 target for that 7 MR. SCHNAARS: I think they're on target 8 for that. 9 MR. HAMBRECHT: based on what he sent 10 me. 11 MR. SCHNAARS: They have everything ready 12 for a 2023 audit now, and that's the next thing Mario 13 will attack right after we get the report on 2022, 14 and then he'll move on to 2024. 15 MR. KRATZ: So we're saying by end of or 16 early August we're caught up to '24 is even done? 17 MR. HAMBRECHT: Could be. It could be 18 August, yeah. 19 MR. SCHNAARS: In August all our books will 20 be caught up then. 21 MS. YOUNG: So in other words, they could 22 be turned over 23 MR. KRATZ: No. That's what I mean. 24 MS. YOUNG: for an audit. 25 MR. KRATZ: Yeah, we turn it over to the ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EPOSITION SOLUTIONS squireSoluions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 79 1 audit. Okay, that's great. 2 MR. HAMBRECHT: The decision from PENNVEST 3 is gonna come in the middle of July, sO we won't be 4 there with our current financials at that point. So 5 we'll but again, they seem to be agreeable with 6 what we're providing and the timeline that we 7 provided them, SO. 8 So this obviously is the revenue 9 portion of the budget right now, and obviously we 're 10 only in April, SO we don't have a lot of revenues 11 hitting yet. They should be hitting in the - most 12 of them should be hitting in the next month or two. 13 Right now we have $275,000 in revenues to date, and 14 that's where we are with that. 15 A couple other things I want to share. 16 MR. MAYBERRY: Roy, just one question 17 MR. HAMBRECHT: Yeah. 18 MR. MAYBERRY: before we go. Beiore we 19 got all of this work caught up with Transcend, was 20 there really any chance of this borough obtaining any 21 type of loan you think? 22 MR. HAMBRECHT: I honestly 23 MR. MAYBERRY: No matter how much we had 24 for a down payment? 25 MR. HAMBRECHT: Honestly, I really can't ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) DEPOSITION SOLUTIONS EsquireSolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 80 1 speak to that because I just don't have that 2 experience to be able to say yes or no to that. 3 MR. MAYBERRY: Okay. 4 MR. HAMBRECHT: Yeah. 5 MR. KRATZ: If I could, too, Roy? 6 MR. HAMBRECHT: Yeah. 7 MR. KRATZ: On the revenues, could you just 8 go back? 9 MR. HAMBRECHT: Yeah. 10 MR. KRATZ: Are the liqu - the liquid 11 fuels that you said last time that we didn't get that 12 we're now gonna catch up from the past, is that in 13 there? 14 MR. HAMBRECHT: So the one is, right here: 15 121,850. That's what we received, that was a 2023 16 payment to us. 17 MR. KRATZ: And we and now we have it? 18 MR. HAMBRECHT: Now, I met with the auditor 19 for liquid fuels today, and the others are in the 20 review process, SO we should be seeing those in the 21 coming months for 2024 and 2020 I'm sorry. 2023 22 and twenty sorry, 2024 and 2025. Yeah. Okay? 23 So let me touch on the liquid fuels 24 since we're on that topic right now. So Transcend 25 Financial, Transcend Finance, we spoke about their ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) OSITION SOLUTIONS EsquireSolutons.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 81 1 activity with us last month. We talked about the 2 fact that $244,000 is the anticipated - their 3 anticipated spend for their entirety. And again, we 4 budgeted 92,000, sO we're in the hole about 152,000. 5 In total we're in the hole 244 when 6 you really think about it because we shouldn't have 7 had to contract with them at all, but given our 8 situation we needed to bring them in. And I don't 9 want to dive into that too deep. 10 But, you know, in - sO I think it's 11 important that we kind of identify what they've done 12 for us. So although we're gonna spend 244,000 here, 13 they were able to identify the liquid fuels money of 14 121,000 in 2023, 121,000 in 2024, and then another 15 118,000 were expected for 2025. They also that 16 amount right there is $361,000. 17 But just recently, there's a $270,000 18 amount that was hanging out there, it was 19 grant-related; and the problem with that money was 20 the completion report was never done last year. So 21 if the completion report is not completed, then all 22 of a sudden we don't get that grant money and we have 23 to pay that out of our General Fund money. 24 Luckily, Transcend Finance was able to 25 identify the issues, find out that the report was not ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) DEPOSITION SOLUTIONS EsqureSolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 82 1 submitted, submit that report. They had to have 2 PennDOT work over the weekend to vet that report and 3 finally give us a thumbs-up. So because of the 4 efforts by Transcend Finance we were able to recover 5 $270,000 that we did not have to pay out of the 6 General Fund. 7 So now we're up to a total of about 8 300 = 631,000. Again paying out 244 to Transcend, 9 but I think there was a huge benefit there by 10 bringing them in. 11 MAYOR SCHOCH: So was there a deadline for 12 that that needed to be met that they had to work over 13 the weekend? 14 MR. HAMBRECHT: Yeah. It was yeah, it 15 was Monday, today. 16 MR. KRATZ: We would have lost it in a 17 couple days. 18 MR. HAMBRECHT: We would have lost the 19 money. 20 MR. MAYBERRY: Unbelievable. 21 MR. HAMBRECHT: So they were able to move 22 quickly. And that's just a chart that kind of shows, 23 you know, where we would have lost, it's the 631. 24 MR. KRATZ: And would you know - going 25 back to the liquid fuels, the 120 from the past, was ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EPOSITION SOLUTIONS Esquresolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 83 1 that was that reported in our budgets as if we had 2 that money? 3 MR. HAMBRECHT: So I don't 4 MR. SCHNAARS: It showed up in the budget 5 as income. 6 MR. KRATZ: As if we did receive it? 7 MR. SCHNAARS: As if we were going to 8 receive it. 9 MR. KRATZ: Well, that's not my question. 10 Because going back a couple of years were the budgets 11 presented to us as if we had that money? 12 MR. HAMBRECHT: Yes. Yeah, that was 13 anticipated revenue that President Schnaars just 14 indicated, that was anticipated revenue that was in 15 the budget. 16 MR. KRATZ: What I'm trying to say is if 17 it if you're telling me we didn't get it for a 18 couple of years and then we get the next year's 19 budget, that the coming year budget is telling me I 20 had the money from the past, which wasn't true. 21 MR. HAMBRECHT: It was anticipated revenue 22 that was supposed that they had in the budget that 23 was supposed to hit, but because the filings weren't 24 done it didn't hit. 25 MR. KRATZ: Right. But then the next year ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) DEPOSITION SOLUTIONS EsquireSolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 84 1 you would have it's gonna happen again. 2 MR. HAMBRECHT: Correct. 3 MR. KRATZ: So you're going back and 4 telling me 5 MR. HAMBRECHT: Correct. 6 MR. KRATZ: the previous year, is that 7 now reported that we did get it 8 MR. HAMBRECHT: Correct. 9 MR. KRATZ: for the next budget that 10 wasn't true? 11 MR. HAMBRECHT: Correct. 12 MR. SCHNAARS: Oh, yeah, in the in the 13 reports we were getting, yeah, it was showing that we 14 had received that money 15 MR. KRATZ: And that's not crue. 16 MR. SCHNAARS: and we were spending 17 money out of that fund - 18 MR. KRATZ: That we didn't have. 19 MR. SCHNAARS: - that we didn't have and 20 never got, yes. 21 MR. MAYBERRY: Wow. 22 MR. SCHNAARS: Okay. Now we're on the same 23 page? 24 MR. KRATZ: Yeah. 25 MR. SCHNAARS: Okay? ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) POSITION SOLUTIONS Esqu/reSolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 85 1 MR. KRATZ: Right, yeah. 2 MR. HAMBRECHT: I think that covers 3 everything with where we are now with the budget. 4 You know, as we move forward and as ClearGov is able 5 to map that data I'11 be able to give you a little 6 bit more detail as to where we are. 7 But the - - the exciting part - - I mean 8 if you're not a financial guy you're not gonna find 9 this exciting, but I find it exciting. Like we're 10 actually gonna be able to budget this year with kind 11 of looking back and seeing where the spend was and 12 being able to make a little bit more informed 13 decisions about where the money needs to be. 14 One of the things that I'm looking at 15 is be redesigning within the within the state 16 limits redesigning the general ledger accounts sO we 17 have a better idea from year to year that we know 18 that expenditure A should be going to this and it's 19 clear it's going to this, as opposed to having the 20 flexibility to put it in different accounts and then 21 we don't have that budget consistency. You know what 22 I mean? 23 MR. KRATZ: Yeah. 24 MR. HAMBRECHT: So that's one of the things 25 we need to kind of nail down. And I think I ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) DEPOSITION SOLUTIONS Esquresolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 86 1 mentioned it before. The thing that really concerns 2 me is we can't even really identify the salaries, 3 regular salary as opposed to overtime; breaking those 4 accounts out SO we can easily identify those 5 different expenditures. 6 So that's what we're shooting for. 7 Yeah, it's not an easy lift, but we're gonna try to 8 make that happen for next budget cycle. 9 MAYOR SCHOCH: So I have a question. So if 10 you're saying that you couldn't really identify like 11 the salaries, the salaries of all employees? 12 MR. HAMBRECHT: Yes. 13 MAYOR SCHOCH: So then 14 MR. HAMBRECHT: What I'm saying is that the 15 salaries - all salary was lumped into an account. 16 Like, for example let me show you an example here. 17 So this is the general ledger. I mean, sorry, this 18 is the General Fund, and if you : - actually there may 19 be a better yeah, here's a better document. Can 20 you see this? Okay. 21 So if I sort this by if I sort this 22 alphabetically, now we can go down here and we can 23 kind of see expenditures by the different categories. 24 So if I go down here to labor; let me go down to L. 25 Where is it? Labor, labor, labor. ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) POSITION SOLUTIONS EsqureSolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 87 1 MR. KRATZ: Right before the M's. 2 MR. HAMBRECHT: Where is it? 3 MAYOR SCHOCH: I don't see it. 4 MR. SCHNAARS: It should be right in the 5 beginning of the L's. 6 MR. HAMBRECHT: Hold on. 7 MR. SCHNAARS: I mean it is l-a, right? 8 L-a-b. 9 MR. HAMBRECHT: Sorry. 10 MAYOR SCHOCH: Are you sure it's not under 11 S? 12 MR. HAMBRECHT: No. Let me look up the one 13 under Council. Hold on a second here. 14 MR. KRATZ: Is it under employee? 15 MR. MAYBERRY: No. I didn't see it. 16 MR. HAMBRECHT: Okay, here we go. 17 Foreman & Labor, that was it. So if you look at 18 these accounts, these are these are all salary 19 accounts, but it's just labor. We lump salary and 20 overtime into these accounts; we don't break out 21 overtime from the salary. So there's no way of 22 knowing what someone's actual what we're paying in 23 someone's actual salary as compared to overtime. We 24 need to separate these accounts. 25 And the real problem I see, I asked ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) DEPOSITION SOLUTIONS EsqureSolutons.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 88 1 for a kind of compendium of the - the state 2 requirements on how they list these different 3 accounts, and there's clearly a separation between 4 salary and overtime, but it was never implemented 5 that way in this budget. 6 MAYOR SCHOCH: Well, the reason the 7 reason I'm asking 8 MR. KRATZ: That includes benefits? Is 9 there benefits in . 10 MR. HAMBRECHT: The benefits is - the 11 benefits, they're kind of broken out. You got health 12 care and you have other benefits that are 13 MR. KRATZ: That is broken out? 14 MR. HAMBRECHT: They're broken out. But 15 the state allows salary, regular salary to be broken 16 out from overtime, and for some reason it never was. 17 So I'm just going to be - the next budget cycle 18 we're gonna implement those accounts, and we'll be 19 able to easily identify how much we're spending in 20 overtime. I can't tell you how much we spend in 21 overtime. 22 MAYOR SCHOCH: Well, the reason I'm asking 23 is because there was a newspaper article that was 24 printed where somebody gave numbers of somebody's 25 salary, and I was just wondering like where those ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) POSITION SOLUTIONS Esquresolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 89 1 numbers came from. Like were those numbers checked 2 out that they were actual factual numbers or 3 MR. HAMBRECHT: So those numbers are in our 4 ADP HR system. 5 MAYOR SCHOCH: Okay. 6 MR. HAMBRECHT: But they don't transition, 7 there's no communication between the ADP system and 8 the AccountMate system, sO everything just gets 9 lumped into one account whether it's overtime and 10 salary. From ADP it just gets thrown into one 11 account line in the general ledger. 12 MR. KRATZ: So if I understand that's a 13 good question. So if somebody did a rignt-to-know to 14 get they wanted to see what the borough spends on 15 overtime vis-a-vis salary, there's no way to know? 16 MR. HAMBRECHT: We could go to the ADP HR 17 system and pull that out, but we can't report on it 18 through the : - through the budget process. 19 MR. KRATZ: No, but Jeralyn's point is it 20 was in the news article. 21 MAYOR SCHOCH: Right, it was in a news 22 article. Like actual numbers were in a news article, 23 and that - that is my question. Like where did 24 those numbers come from, like were those numbers 25 checked on to make sure they were actual factual ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) DEPOSITION SOLUTIONS EsguireSolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON 30ROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 90 1 numbers? What 2 MR. HAMBRECHT: Unless somebody knew their 3 hourly rate, and they could - they could - they 4 could make an assumption based on the hourly rate how 5 much they were getting paid annually. Then if they 6 were paid over that, then that would be overtime. 7 But that's just, you know, a guess. It's an educated 8 guess, but it's a guess. 9 MR. SCHNAARS: Now, we've 10 MAYOR SCHOCH: Okay. 11 MR. SCHNAARS: been talking before about 12 another accounting system that will 13 MR. HAMBRECHT: Edmunds. 14 MR. SCHNAARS: track this stuff better? 15 MR. HAMBRECHT: Oh, yeah. Yeah, I mean 16 it's much better. And, you know, I mentioned that, 17 and you guys I think I got approval last month, sO 18 I'm gonna add it as part of the budget for next 19 budget cycle. 20 And, you know, the problem with that 21 is that the next budget cycle will start January 1. 22 So once I have approval for that, then I'11 contact 23 Edmunds; and they need 12 to 15 months to roll it 24 out, sO now we're in early 2027 before we actually 25 use it. It's a whole process. ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) DEPOSITION SOLUTIONS EsqureSolutons.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 91 1 MR. SCHNAARS: : Right, yeah. It sounds like 2 we're on the right track though. 3 MR. MAYBERRY: Um-hum. Yes. 4 MR. SCHNAARS: Any turther questions from 5 anyone? 6 MR. MAYBERRY: No. 7 MR. SCHNAARS: I want to thank you, Roy, 8 because we haven't gotten this kind of 9 MR. MAYBERRY: Yes. 10 MR. SCHNAARS: informat tion in a long 11 time. 12 MR. HAMBRECHT: Again I hope to provide you 13 a little bit more, but right now it's better than 14 what we've had in the past. 15 MR. MAYBERRY: Much better. 16 MAYOR SCHOCH: Roy, can you just like 17 inform us a little bit about the new IT group and 18 MR. HAMBRECHT: Yeah. 19 MAYOR SCHOCH: what transpired with the 20 previous? 21 MR. HAMBRECHT: Yeah. So the new the 22 new IT group is Eastern Telephone & Technology, ET&T. 23 We were using their services for the phone service. 24 Okay? Now we're going to be using their services for 25 IT and phone services. ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EPOSITION SOLUTIONS EsqureSolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 92 1 We never had a there were a couple 2 issues that I was concerned with, and that was 3 response time. You know, when we would contact 4 Keystone Technology, we would get - when we called 5 the help desk, we would get this person is out to 6 lunch. Sometimes we wouldn't get a call back. 7 Sometimes the calls would just be really late. 8 Operationally that didn't work for me. 9 I reached out to - - there were other issues too. The 10 technology, there were a lot of delays on the system. 11 Having trouble the training was not there for some 12 of the staff that may be a little bit more challenged 13 with technology. It wasn't a very seamless 14 operation. There was a lot of - a little 15 disconnection with with them operating and what we 16 needed. 17 So we were able to again speak to ET&T 18 and get their services, which they're a little bit 19 more expensive but not that much. It was actually 20 pretty comparable. Um, the : - yeah, sO that kind of 21 sums it up. 22 MAYOR SCHOCH: Okay. 23 MR. HAMBRECHT: If you have any specific 24 questions, I'm happy to answer. 25 MAYOR SCHOCH: Okay. Thank you. ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EPOSITION SOLUTIONS EsqureSolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 93 1 MR. HAMBRECHT: Oh, I'm sorry. The other 2 thing I did want to mention is that there was no 3 contract in place. And for 20 years we were 4 apparenty using this Keystone Technology, no 5 contract in place. When I reached out to the 6 individual to ask for that contract, that's what he 7 indicated. He said it was just a kind of a handshake 8 agreement. 9 And I wasn't comfortable with that. 10 You know, that basically gave him carte blanche to 11 charge us whatever he wanted, there was no price 12 schedule or anything like that that I had to rely on, 13 sO I just I felt that was a little disingenuous. 14 MR. KRATZ: What contact was that? 15 MR. MAYBERRY: Not very professional. 16 MR. KRATZ: Was that uncovered by the 17 accountants? 18 MR. HAMBRECHT: No. I called because I 19 wasn't happy with their service, sO I wanted to see 20 their contract, and 21 MR. KRATZ: Wow. 22 MR. HAMBRECHT: - he said there was no 23 contract. 24 MR. KRATZ: A government agency with no 25 contract with a vendor. ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EPOSITION SOLUTIONS Esquresolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 94 1 MR. HAMBRECHT: Yeah. 2 MR. MAYBERRY: Like I said, it's not very 3 protessional. 4 MR. SCHNAARS: Well, okay, that's it. Any 5 other questions? Anything else to report, Roy, 6 before we go back on? 7 MR. HAMBRECHT: No, that's it. That's it 8 for me. 9 MR. MAYBERRY: Okay. Last one, No. 5. SFM 10 Consulting which will be done in executive session. 11 MR. HAMBRECHT: Can I speak to that real 12 quick? SFM Consulting had to back out tonight. 13 MR. MAYBERRY: Um-hum. 14 MR. HAMBRECHT: The individual that was 15 going to do the presentation has the flu, sO he would 16 like to come next committee meeting. 17 MR. MAYBERRY: Next committee meeting? 18 Okay. 19 MR. HAMBRECHT: So I'm gonna put it on the 20 agenda for next week. 21 MR. MAYBERRY: Okay. 22 MR. SCHNAARS: Okay. Yeah, we'll talk 23 about that. 24 MR. MAYBERRY: All right. And then 25 well, that concludes Finance, Planning, and Zoning. ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EPOSITION SOLUTIONS Esquresolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 95 1 MR. SCHIPPERS: I'm here. 2 MR. SCHNAARS: Okay. 3 MR. MAYBERRY: Okay. 4 MR. SCHNAARS: Very good. Sewer/Solid 5 Waste. Councilor Schippers, you're back just in 6 time. 7 MR. SCHIPPERS: I did what I could. 8 Okay. No. 1. Consent agreement 9 requires three staff at the sewer plant. The third 10 staff member was approved in February at Sewer 11 Committee at the February Sewer Committee meeting. 12 A possible motion to hire a third plant staff or 13 laborer. 14 MR. HAMBRECHT: So I mentioned this at the 15 committee. So again, the consent agreement requires 16 that third person, that laborer; but I think it's 17 also important to note that it's going to free up the 18 staff from the highway crew because they don't have 19 to come down to the sewer plant to maintain the 20 property down there. 21 This individual will be I don't 22 know if anyone has been down to that sewer plant 23 recently. It's a mess. 24 MR. SCHIPPERS: A little bit. 25 MR. HAMBRECHT: The outside especially ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EPOSITION SOLUTIONS EsquireSolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 96 1 needs to be power-washed. This individual will be 2 able to cut the grass, freeing up the road crew to do 3 their do their job on the roads where they should 4 be. 5 MR. SCHIPPERS: Right. Can I make this a 6 motion now? 7 MR. SCHNAARS: Of course you can. 8 MR. SCHIPPERS: Okay. Because I would like 9 to make a motion to hire a third sewer plant staff 10 (laborer) because it's needed. 11 MR. SCHNAARS: Yeah. 12 MR. STECKEL: Laborer or operator? 13 MR. SCHIPPERS: Laborer. They just hired 14 an operator, so now we're good with that. 15 MR. MAYBERRY: And I'11 second that motion. 16 MR. SCHNAARS: Okay. We have a motion and 17 a second to hire a laborer for the sewer plant. Is 18 there any discussion? We went over this in 19 committee, but 20 MR. SCHIPPERS: And this makes it compliant 21 as well. 22 MR. SCHNAARS: Yeah. 23 MR. MAYBERRY: Well, that's important. 24 MR. SCHIPPERS: Yeah. 25 MR. SCHNAARS: Okay. ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EPOSITION SOLUTIONS EsgureSolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 97 1 MR. SCHIPPERS: No. 2. An update 2 MR. SCHNAARS: Now hold on. 3 MR. SCHIPPERS: Oh, sorry. 4 MR. SCHNAARS: Don't rush it. Okay. So 5 can I do this by voice, Lisa? 6 MS. YOUNG: Yes. 7 MR. SCHNAARS: Okay. All those in favor 8 signify by saying aye. 9 (Voice vote.) 10 MR. SCHNAARS: Any opposed? Abstentions? 11 Motion passes. 12 MR. SCHIPPERS: Then No. 2. Update on 13 kennel animal control person or company. . 14 I have been checking onto one person 15 to do it. There's also another person that 16 Walnutport is right now using. Which are very good, 17 they don't de they don't require a contract, and 18 they're only paid by animal per day. 19 And the only thing that they don't do 20 at this place the first one I looked at was a 21 canine it's like canine day care over in 22 Walnutport. They can do it, it's not a problem, but 23 they want a contract to go by. I'm having a little 24 bit of pushback from one of the people that are over 25 there. One person is on board. The other person, ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) DEFOSITION SOLUTIONS Esquresolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 98 1 who happens to be her husband, is not sO much. 2 I did go over to Walnutport, and I 3 asked over there what do they do for animal control 4 for where they take their animals. There's another 5 one up in Walnutport. They don't require a contract. 6 It's per animal per how long it's there, which is a 7 lot better. 8 And the only thing that they do not 9 do, they will not accept a large, and they did make 10 sure it was a large aggressive dog or animal. 11 Smaller ones I guess they could care less about 12 because they put them in a cage and wait until 13 somebody picks them up, but they will not take a 14 large one. They don't need 15 MAYOR SCHOCH: They won't take a large a 16 large one at all or a large aggressive one? 17 MR. SCHIPPERS: They will not take a large 18 aggressive animal. 19 MAYOR SCHOCH: Okay. 20 MR. SCHIPPERS: Other like if you have a 21 really good Labrador or if you got a really good 22 German shepherd. 23 MAYOR SCHOCH: Is that Furry Feet? 24 MR. SCHIPPERS: Yes. 25 MAYOR SCHOCH: Okay. ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EPOSITION SOLUTIONS Esquresolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 99 1 MR. SCHIPPERS: Yes. 2 MR. KRATZ: But the one the one with the 3 contract takes anything? 4 MR. SCHIPPERS: They will take either one 5 that you want, but I think it's gonna be a little bit 6 harder to work with them than it is to work with 7 Furry Feet. 8 MR. HAMBRECHT: Why can I ask a 9 question? Why is he resistant, this individual 10 resistant to a contract? 11 MR. SCHIPPERS: Because apparently him and 12 his wife don't see eye to eye on half the stuff that 13 they do over there. 14 MR. HAMBRECHT: But I just don't feel 15 comfortable operating without a contract - 16 MR. SCHIPPERS: Right. 17 MR. HAMBRECHT: because they could just 18 bail at any time, and then it puts us in the same 19 position. 20 MR. SCHNAARS: Furry Feet here said they 21 don't want they don't require a contract. If you 22 want a contract, that's fine, but they won't they 23 don't care if there's a contract or not. 24 MAYOR SCHOCH: But I think what you're 25 saying is - - sO because I know like the Humane ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) DEPOSITION SOLUTIONS Esquresolutons.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 100 1 Society, The Sanctuary at Haatsville, like they 2 all : like that's all contract, like you pay X 3 amount per year regardless if you use them or not. 4 MR. SCHIPPERS: Right. 5 MAYOR SCHOCH: So I'm sure like they want a 6 contract to pay X amount for the year is what you're 7 saying. 8 MR. SCHIPPERS: Furry Feet said no. 9 MAYOR SCHOCH: So Furry Feet said we could 10 pay - we could have a contract and pay per animal? 11 MR. SCHIPPERS: Per animal, yeah. 12 MAYOR SCHOCH: Like it wouldn't = right. 13 It wouldn't be a set amount for the yearl but it 14 would still be a contract per animal? 15 MR. SCHIPPERS: Correct. 16 MAYOR SCHOCH: But the other place wants a 17 contract for the year, not per animal? 18 MR. SCHIPPERS: Right, that would be their 19 contract, and they said it's just for anybody else as 20 well. 21 MR. SCHNAARS: Yes. 22 MR. KRATZ: So how often are we dealing 23 with stray animals? Is it a regular issue? 24 MR. SCHIPPERS: And we have maybe 25 because when I looked back on this ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EPOSITION SOLUTIONS Esquresolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 101 1 CHIEF BORST: Yeah, all the all the 2 time. 3 MR. KRATZ: All the time? 4 CHIEF BORST: This has been an enormous 5 issue for many years with the police department. 6 MAYOR SCHOCH: Yes. 7 MR. KRATZ: Really? 8 CHIEF BORST: Because we have nowhere to 9 bring any animal that we find. What we were doing is 10 storing them in the kennel at the sewer plant. 11 MR. SCHIPPERS: Right. 12 MR. KRATZ: Ahh. 13 CHIEF BORST: And, you know, that's 14 MR. SCHNAARS: We got inspected and hit 15 with it, sO. 16 MR. KRATZ: So we do it in a place that 17 takes a contract, and we do it for a year unlimited? 18 MAYOR SCHOCH: And that's and that's the 19 thing. Because like I found a stray dog a couple 20 weeks ago, and yeah, they came and they scanned him. 21 Of course he didn't have a chip. Well, I have three 22 shepherds at home. I can't take this dog home. What 23 are we doing with it? Like do I just let it run? 24 CHIEE BORST: This is what we're running 25 into, is that people drive to the police station and ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) DEPOSITION SOLUTIONS EsqureSolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 102 1 say hey, I found a dog. 2 MR. SCHNAARS: Well, Roy, would you be 3 satisfied with a letter of agreement that states 4 MR. HAMBRECHT: Yeah. 5 MR. SCHNAARS: states that it's per day 6 per dog per dog per day 7 MR. HAMBRECHT: Yeah, that's fine. 8 MR. SCHNAARS: and name what the price 9 is? 10 MR. HAMBRECHT: Yeah. 11 MR. SCHIPPERS: And the same with Furry 12 Feet. They do the same thing for Walnutport. 13 They'11 take a picture, they'11 put it on our In The 14 Know. 15 MAYOR SCHOCH: I know, but you better 16 doublecheck with Michelle from Furry Feet, because I 17 don't know how much capacity she has for large dogs. 18 CHIEF BORST: I'm also a little concerned 19 about this large aggressive, who's making that 20 determination. 21 MR. SCHIPPERS: She did she said that if 22 it's a large dog that's aggressive, they won't take 23 it. 24 CHIEF BORST: So what 25 MR. KRATZ: What's large? ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EPOSITION SOLUTIONS squireSolutons.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 103 1 CHIEF BORST: does the police department 2 do with this dog? 3 MR. SCHIPPERS: What's large is she what 4 she told me was a shepherd, Labrador. 5 MAYOR SCHOCH: Well, that's what I'm 6 saying. I don't think she has the capacity for large 7 dogs. She has the capacity for small dogs, I know 8 that. 9 MR. SCHIPPERS: And she just did add on, sO 10 they have a new building as well too. 11 MAYOR SCHOCH: Okay. But I would 12 doublecheck that she has capacity how much 13 capacity she has for large dogs. 14 MR. SCHIPPERS: I can doublecheck on all 15 the stuff and the prices and see if we get a 16 difference price. 17 MAYOR SCHOCH: Yeah. 18 MR. SCHNAARS: Well, even that, but, you 19 know, it sounds to me like the minimum we would need 20 is a letter of agreement on how much the charges are 21 going to be. 22 MR. SCHIPPERS: Right. 23 MR. SCHNAARS: You know, something in 24 writing that - - that we both recognize. 25 MR. HAMBRECHT: Right. ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) POSITION SOLUTIONS EsqureSolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON 30ROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 104 1 MAYOR SCHOCH: Can you get that in a 2 committee meeting? 3 MR. KRATZ: For my edification, are we 4 talking 20 dogs a year, 50 dogs a year? 5 MR. SCHIPPERS: Oh, we get we were lucky 6 if we get two or three. 7 MAYOR SCHOCH: Two or three what? 8 MR. SCHIPPERS: Dogs a year that are . 9 MAYOR SCHOCH: Where? Here? 10 MR. SCHIPPERS: Yeah. I'm just I'm 11 going by what is written down at the kennel that we 12 have. 13 MR. KRATZ: No. I'm asking the police 14 chief. Just how many how many do you deal with 15 that we have to . 16 CHIEF BORST: We are we are now turning 17 dogs away. We are saying we will not take dogs 18 because we've been told we can't store them at the 19 sewer plant. So people are saying to us, Are you 20 serious? What do you want me to do with this dog? 21 MR. KRATZ: So if you had to guess a 22 number, 20 dogs a year, 30 dogs a year? 23 CHIEF BORST: Probably I would say in the 24 range - probably 25 to 50. 25 MR. KRATZ: Dogs a year? ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EPOSITION SOLUTIONS Esquresolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 105 1 CHIEF BORST: Yeah. If you look at our 2 department Facebook page 3 MAYOR SCHOCH: Yeah. 4 CHIEF BORST: scroll through there back 5 when we were taking dogs, I mean it's nonstop. 6 MAYOR SCHOCH: And like literally we had no 7 one to come take these dogs, sO I would try and get 8 people like if they weren't if an owner didn't 9 come forward, I was trying to get people to adopt 10 these dogs. 11 MR. KRATZ: And just for number sakes, 12 we're probably looking at a dog a week is what you're 13 looking at, these numbers. 14 MR. SCHIPPERS: Okay. Because I was under 15 the assumption of what I saw down at the kennel - 16 MAYOR SCHOCH: No. 17 MR. SCHIPPERS: and what were signed in. 18 CHIEF BORST: Well, as of recently we 19 haven't been because we haven't been - - 20 MR. SCHIPPERS: Right. 21 CHIEF BORST: - bringing them there. 22 MR. KRATZ: A dog a week. 23 MR. SCHIPPERS: Yeah, I wasn't wasn't 24 told about that number. 25 CHIEF BORST: Yeah. ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EPOSITION SOLUTIONS EsgureSolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 106 1 MR. SCHNAARS: Don't forget that - well, 2 if we're getting that many, there's a couple things 3 that I think we take in consideration. One of them 4 is the proximity of the place where we're taking 5 them. If it takes you half a day to drive there to 6 drop a dog off 7 CHIEF BORST: Absolutely. Right. 8 MR. SCHNAARS: you know, you don't want 9 that. You want somebody relatively close. 10 CHIEE BORST: And one thing I am that 11 would concern me is this large aggressive, I just 12 have a problem with that because 13 MR. SCHIPPERS: That was the first thing 14 out of her mouth too. 15 CHIEF BORST: - if - exactly. If we get 16 a dog, I mean, you know, they sometimes a lot of 17 times they are aggressive. 18 MR. SCHNAARS: Well, they're scared. 19 CHIEF BORST: Absolutely. So if we're 20 getting a dog, putting it in the police car, driving 21 it to this place, tying up our resources getting 22 there, to be told "that's a pretty aggressive dog, 11 23 then we're - you know, we're back to 24 MR. KRATZ: Yeah, that place is out. We 25 got to get three other quotes I guess, right? ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) OSITION SOLUTIONS Esquresolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 107 1 CHIEF BORST: the starting point, sO. 2 MR. SCHIPPERS: I can go back, and 3 hopefully this lady will or the she's a good 4 lady though, she does do good work over here. But I 5 can go back to Kate and her husband that this 6 doggy day care. They just built a new kennel inside 7 the landscaping place they bought? And they have a 8 lot 9 MAYOR SCHOCH: Because they just started 10 boarding too. 11 MR. SCHIPPERS: They're there for boarding, 12 and they also will take in like that. There's also 13 rescues. Didn't go to them yet. 14 CHIEF BORST: The issue is a lot of times, 15 too, and I hate to say this, but we run into a lot of 16 dumping of animals. I mean when we were taking dogs, 17 we were taking dogs, we're taking them down to the 18 sewer plant, we're posting them on our Facebook, 19 we're scanning them, we're doing everything we can. 20 Nobody comes forward - 21 MAYOR SCHOCH: Nobody ever comes forward. 22 CHIEF BORST: and we're running into 23 MR. SCHNAARS: They're getting abandoned. 24 CHIEF BORST: They're getting abandoned, 25 and we don't have a contract with anyone. No one ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) DEFOSITION SOLUTIONS EsquireSolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 108 1 will take them unless it's a rescue. 2 MR. SCHIPPERS: Right. I'1l do more work 3 on that then. This lady from 4 MAYOR SCHOCH: Well, you can also check 5 with The Sanctuary at Haafsville and Peaceable 6 Kingdom. 7 MR. HAMBRECHT: I called Peaceable Kingdom; 8 nobody responds. I called Humane Society; nobody 9 responds. 10 MR. SCHIPPERS: I tried I tried there, 11 too, and I went 12 MR. HAMBRECHT: Like literally three or 13 four phone calls. 14 MR. SCHIPPERS: I tried the Peaceful 15 Kingdom, and then I went to Peaceful Kingdom. I got 16 nowhere. And that Tish or whatever her name was? 17 MR. HAMBRECHT: Yeah. 18 MR. SCHIPPERS: Forget it. 19 CHIEF BORST: Who? 20 MAYOR SCHOCH: Teisha? 21 MR. SCHIPPERS: That's it. 22 MR. HAMBRECHT: Teisha Jones from the 23 Humane Society. 24 MAYOR SCHOCH: What did she tell you? 25 MR. HAMBRECHT: If I could have talked to ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) POSITION SOLUTIONS EsqureSolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 109 1 her, I don't know what she would have told me. 2 MAYOR SCHOCH: I'1l call her. 3 MR. SCHIPPERS: Yeah. Because 4 MAYOR SCHOCH: I'11 call her. 5 MR. HAMBRECHT: If you could, that would be 6 great. 7 MR. SCHIPPERS: I can't get anything from 8 her either. 9 MAYOR SCHOCH: I'11 call her. I know her 10 personally. 11 MR. SCHIPPERS: That's why I was going 12 other places. 13 MR. SCHNAARS: Okay. Moving on. 14 MR. SCHIPPERS: Moving on to No. 3. A 15 motion to transfer funds to pay for the following 16 Authority bills: December 4th, 2024, through April 17 14th, 2025. Meeting Sewer Authority bills: Tad 18 Miller, $125; Lisa Young, $11,529; Hamburg, Rubin, 19 Mullin, Maxwell & Lupin services through December 20 31st, 2024, $6,900; Hamburg, Rubin, Mullin, Maxwell & 21 Lupin services through January 8th, 2025, $5,137.50; 22 Brown & Brown, $250; David Frederick, the 23 replenishment of petty cash, $71.85. This is a total 24 of $24,013.35. 25 MR. MAYBERRY: Second. ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EPOSITION SOLUTIONS Esquresolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 110 1 MR. SCHNAARS: We have a motion and second. 2 Any discussion? By the way, that's Lupin, not 3 Lupkin. Lupin. Okay? 4 MR. SCHIPPERS: Yeah. That's fine. 5 MR. SCHNAARS: All right. May I have a 6 roll call, please, Roy. 7 MR. HAMBRECHT: President Schnaars. 8 MR. SCHNAARS: Yes. 9 MR. HAMBRECHT: Vice President Halkias. 10 MR. HALKIAS: : Yes. 11 MR. HAMBRECHT: Councilor Mayberry. 12 MR. MAYBERRY: Yes. 13 MR. HAMBRECHT: Councilor Kratz. 14 MR. KRATZ: Yes. 15 MR. HAMBRECHT: Councilor Steckel. 16 MR. STECKEL: Yes. 17 MR. HAMBRECHT: Councilor Schippers. 18 MR. SCHIPPERS: Yes. 19 MR. HAMBRECHT: Councilor 20 MR. SCHNAARS: Schoch. 21 MR. HAMBRECHT: Schoch. Sorry. 22 MR. SCHOCH: Yes. 23 MR. SCHIPPERS: Okay. Moving on to No. 4, 24 is a motion 25 MR. SCHNAARS: Hold on. ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) POSITION SOLUTIONS Esquresolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 111 1 MR. SCHIPPERS: Okay. 2 MR. SCHNAARS: Is that all of them? 3 MR. HAMBRECHT: That's everyone. 4 MR. SCHNAARS: All right. That's seven 5 yeses, the motion passes. Okay. Now you can 6 continue. 7 MR. SCHIPPERS: All right. Moving on to 8 No. 4. Motion to pay assistant treasurer's time and 9 travel report for the period of January 3rd, 2025, 10 13.3 miles at 70 cents a mile is $9.31. January 11 30th - - 12 MR. SCHNAARS: Twenty yeah, okay. 13 MR. SCHIPPERS: What was that? 14 MR. SCHNAARS: My apology. Go ahead. 15 MR. SCHIPPERS: Okay. January 30th, 2025, 16 4.1 miles at 70 cents is $2.87. February 17th, 2025, 17 4.9 miles at 70 cents is 3.4 $3.43. April 1st, 18 2025, 4.9 miles at 70 cents is $3.43. April 14th, 19 2025, 23 miles at 70 cents is $35.14. Total hour 20 MR. SCHNAARS: No. 21 MR. SCHIPPERS: Excuse me? 22 MR. SCHNAARS: That can't be. That's got 23 to be an incorrect figure. 24 MS. YOUNG: It's probably a typo. 25 MR. SCHIPPERS: Oh, I do see that now. ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) DEPOSITION SOLUTIONS EsquireSolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 112 1 MR. STECKEL: Yeah, I see that too. 2 MAYOR SCHOCH: Um-hum. 3 MR. SCHIPPERS: Okay. 4 MR. SCHNAARS: Let's see what it should be 5 here. 6 MS. BARTELS: That's the total. 7 MR. SCHIPPERS: They're getting paid quite 8 a bit. 9 MR. HAMBRECHT: The total hours 19.25 at 10 $30 an hour is 577.50. 11 MR. SCHNAARS: Right. But the 23 miles at 12 70 cents a mile can't possibly be $35. 13 MS. YOUNG: No, that's the total. 14 MR. SCHIPPERS: That's the total of 15 everything. 16 MS. YOUNG: That's the subtotal 17 MR. SCHIPPERS: Yeah, that's the total of 18 everything. 19 MS. YOUNG: is 35 . 20 MR. SCHNAARS: But you list individual 21 amounts before. 22 MR. HAMBRECHT: 23 miles times .7. 23 MR. SCHNAARS: That's $16.10, 23 miles at 24 70 cents a mile. 25 MR. MAYBERRY: The total is right. We're ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EPOSITION SOLUTIONS Esquresolutons.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 113 1 just we've omitted the 23 miles at 70 cents which 2 would come out to 16.1 dollars. 3 MR. SCHNAARS: Yes. 4 MR. MAYBERRY: But I think the actual total 5 amount of 35.14 is correct. 6 MR. SCHIPPERS: 35.14 is correct with the 7 total hours. 8 MR. MAYBERRY: Like, yeah, if you add up 9 every amount he had said, it will come out to 35.14. 10 MR. SCHIPPERS: Right. 11 MS. YOUNG: If you look at the E4? The E4 12 attachment, that is correct. I believe there's some 13 typos in the agenda. 14 MR. SCHIPPERS: There's definitely 15 something missing here. 16 MR. MAYBERRY: It's missing a $16.10. 17 MR. SCHNAARS: Yeah. 18 MS. YOUNG: If you look at his individual 19 report, it has the breakdown and the totals. 20 MR. SCHNAARS: Yeah, he has 16, and then 21 it's 35.14 for the total of all of them, yes, on the 22 separate report. See? 23 MR. SCHIPPERS: Okay. Can I - - I can 24 finish this out, correct? 25 MR. SCHNAARS: Yes. ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EPOSITION SOLUTIONS EsqureSolutlons.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 114 1 MR. SCHIPPERS: Okay. Total hours of 19 2 and a quarter hour total hours are 19 and a 3 quarter at $30 will come out to 35.14. 4 MR. SCHNAARS: Um-hum. And the total of 5 everything is? 6 MR. SCHIPPERS: And I have not that here. 7 MR. SCHNAARS: Nineteen 19 8 MR. SCHIPPERS: It's five-hundred 9 MR. SCHNAARS: Yeah. 10 MR. SCHIPPERS: 577.50. 11 MR. SCHNAARS: So I have a motion. Do I 12 have a second? 13 MR. MAYBERRY: Second. 14 MR. SCHNAARS: I have a second. Any more 15 questions? Okay. May I have a roll call, please, 16 Roy? 17 MR. HAMBRECHT: President Schnaars. 18 MR. SCHNAARS: Yes. 19 MR. HAMBRECHT: Vice President Halkias. 20 MR. HALKIAS: Yes. 21 MR. HAMBRECHT: Councilor Mayberry. 22 MR. MAYBERRY: Yes. 23 MR. HAMBRECHT: Councilor Kratz. 24 MR. KRATZ: Yes. 25 MR. HAMBRECHT: Councilor Steckel. ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) OSITION SOLUTIONS Esquresolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 115 1 MR. STECKEL: Yes. 2 MR. HAMBRECHT: Councilor Schoch. 3 MR. SCHOCH: Yes. 4 MR. HAMBRECHT: Councilor Schippers. 5 MR. SCHIPPERS: Yes. 6 MR. SCHNAARS: That's seven yes, motion 7 passes. Anything else? 8 MR. SCHIPPERS: That is everything for 9 Sewer and Solid Waste, yeah. 10 MR. SCHNAARS: Water/Special Sewer 11 Committee. Kevin? It's all yours. 12 MR. STECKEL: Item 1. Water Test 13 Statement. Water was tested and found safe for human 14 consumption. Item 2. Make a motion to go with the 15 five-year maintenance plan on Atlas Copco Compressor 16 Services. This was discussed in committee. 17 MR. SCHNAARS: Okay. 18 MR. STECKEL: And that is the better of the 19 two options between it and their two-year maintenance 20 plan. 21 MR. SCHNAARS: I have a motion. Do I have 22 a second? 23 MR. SCHOCH: Second. 24 MR. KRATZ: Second. 25 MR. SCHNAARS: We got competing seconds. ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EPOSITION SOLUTIONS Esquresolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 116 1 MR. KRATZ: He has it. 2 MR. SCHNAARS: Mr. Schoch has it. Okay. 3 Are there any questions on this? Okay. May I have a 4 roll call, please, Roy. 5 MR. HAMBRECHT: President Schnaars. 6 MR. SCHNAARS: Yes. 7 MR. HAMBRECHT: Vice President Halkias. 8 MR. HALKIAS: Yes. MR. HAMBRECHT: Councilor Mayberry. 10 MR. MAYBERRY: Yes. 11 MR. HAMBRECHT: Councilor Kratz. 12 MR. KRATZ: Yes. 13 MR. HAMBRECHT: Councilor Steckel. 14 MR. STECKEL: Yes. 15 MR. HAMBRECHT: Councilor Schoch. 16 MR. SCHOCH: Yes. 17 MR. HAMBRECHT: Councilor Schippers. 18 MR. SCHIPPERS: Yes. 19 MR. STECKEL: Item 3. Proposed resolution 20 to pursue a grant/LIL opportunity with PENNVEST for 21 the modernization of the water meters throughout the 22 borough. 23 Based on our discussion in finance, we 24 do still want to move forward with this then? 25 MR. MAYBERRY: Yeah, I'd say SO. ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EPOSITION SOLUTIONS EsqureSolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 117 1 MR. STECKEL: Okay. Then I will make that 2 a motion to pass Resolution R-09-25. 3 MR. SCHNAARS: I have a motion. Do I have 4 a second? 5 MR. HALKIAS: Second. 6 MR. SCHNAARS: I have a second. Is there 7 any further discussion? All those in favor signify 8 by saying aye. 9 (Voice vote.) 10 MR. SCHNAARS: Any opposed? Abstentions? 11 Motion passes. 12 MR. STECKEL: And review of Filter Plant 13 Performance Evaluation. 14 MR. SCHNAARS: This came through as a I 15 don't know if there's 30-some-odd pages to the 16 whole thing, right, Roy? 17 MR. HAMBRECHT: Correct. Yeah. 18 MR. SCHNAARS: Yeah. But well, 36 it 19 says here, but the part that would concern us most 20 was the part that you have before you in the packet. 21 MR. HAMBRECHT: There's 13 different 22 recommendations. 23 MR. SCHNAARS: Yes. 24 MR. HAMBRECHT: A lot of those 25 recommendations are already being implemented. You ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EPOSITION SOLUTIONS Esquresolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 118 1 know, I was hoping that Steve because we talked 2 about the department heads actually coming to the 3 meetings and updating us. They will be updating us 4 on the 28th of this month. I was hoping that he 5 could speak to these a little bit more formally. 6 MR. SCHNAARS: Okay. 7 MR. HAMBRECHT: But again a lot of them are 8 already in motion, and some of them have already been 9 resolved, and I think we're in a good position. So 10 it's up to you whether you want to approve it or list 11 it to them to do in committee. 12 MR. SCHNAARS: Well, I don't know if we can 13 approve or disapprove of it. You know, we can note 14 that we've accepted it - 15 MR. HAMBRECHT: Um-hum. 16 MR. SCHNAARS: you know. So yeah, I 17 would list this as an information only for you folks, 18 but I thought you might be interested in this. They 19 have a I'm trying to think. That there were three 20 levels that they approved at. We were at the middle 21 level of acceptable, you know, operations. I think 22 there was the one above it was commendable, you 23 know, whatever that means. 24 MR. MAYBERRY: Sounds good. 25 MR. SCHNAARS: Plus the water is safe. ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) POSITION SOLUTIONS Esquresolut.ons.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 119 1 Anything else? 2 MR. STECKEL: No. That concludes Water and 3 Special Sewer. 4 MR. SCHNAARS: Okay. Is there any 5 unfinished business we need to take care of? 6 Roy, do we still need an executive 7 session? 8 MR. HAMBRECHT: We do not. 9 MR. SCHNAARS: Okay. Okay. Lisa? 10 MS. YOUNG: I have some 11 MR. SCHNAARS: You have some stufi? 12 MS. YOUNG: executive session. 13 MR. SCHNAARS: Okay. In that case, it is 14 now 9:04. We will recess this session for executive 15 session. Will there be any action do you see that we 16 need to take when we come back, Lisa? 17 MS. YOUNG: No. It's informational for the 18 Council. 19 MR. SCHNAARS: Okay. So that will be I 20 take it legal matters will be discussed 21 MS. YOUNG: (Nodding head up and down.) 22 MR. SCHNAARS: at that? Okay. So I 23 will adjourn this meeting then if there's no 24 additional business to be taken care of. Do I have a 25 motion to adjourn? ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) POSITION SOLUTIONS EsquireSolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON B0ROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 120 1 MR. KRATZ: Motion to adjourn. 2 MR. SCHNAARS: I have a motion. 3 MR. SCHIPPERS: I'11 second that. 4 MR. SCHNAARS: And I have a second. We're 5 adjourned at 9:05. 6 (Hearing adjourned at 9:05 p.m.) 7 8 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) S ITION SOLUTIONS Esquresolutions.com MEETING April 14, 2025 SLATINGTON BOROUGH COUNCIL MEETING 121 1 E R I I F I A T E 2 3 4 April 29, 2025 5 6 7 I hereby certify that the evidence and 8 proceedings are contained fully and accurately in the 9 notes taken by me of the within public meeting and 10 that this is a correct transcript of the same. 11 12 13 stiven . 14 mack Steven R. Mack 15 Registered Merit Reporter Certified Realtime Reporter 16 Notary Public 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EPOSITION SOLUTIONS EsquireSolutions.com