Minutes of the  Historic and Architectural Review Commission  City of Georgetown, Texas Thursday, August 22, 2024  The Georgetown Historic and Architectural Review Commission met on Thursday, August 22, 2024 at The City of Georgetown is committed to compliance with the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA). If you require assistance in participating at a public meeting due to a disability, as defined under the ADA, reasonable assistance, adaptations, or accommodations will be provided upon request. Please contact the City Secretary's Office, at least three (3) days prior tot the scheduled meeting date, at (512)930-3652 or City Hall at 808 Martin Luther King, Jr Street for additional information; TTY users route through Relay  6:00 PM at Council and Court Building, 510 W 9th Street.  Texas at 711.  The following Members were in attendance:  Present were: Lawrence Romero, Michael J Walton, Evan Hein, Alton Martin, Jennifer Powell,  Stuart Garner  Public Wishing to Address the Board  On a subject that is posted on this agenda: Please fill out a speaker registration form which can bei found on the table at the entrance to the meeting room. Clearly print your name and the letter of the item on which you wish to: speak and present it to the Board Liaison prior to the start of the meeting. You will be called forward to speak when the Board considers that item. Only persons who have delivered the speaker form prior tot the meeting being called to order may speak. Speakers will be allowed up to three minutes to speak. Ify you wish to speak for six minutes, iti is permissible to use another requestor's granted time to speak. No more than: six minutes for a speaker may be granted. The requestor granting time to another speaker must also submit ai form Onas subject not posted on the agenda: Ar request must be received by the Advisory Board or Commission Liaison prior to the day the agenda for this mee ng is posted. Each speaker will be given three minutes to address the  and be present at the meeting.  Board or Commission members. No action can be taken.  1. Regular Session 1.A Meeting Minutes  Consideration and possible action to approve the minutes from the July 25, 2024, regular meeting of the Historic and Architectural Review Commission = Erica Metress, Moved by Lawrence Romero; seconded by Jennifer Powell to Approve the minutes from the July 25, 2024, regular meeting of the Historic and Architectural Review  Planning Specialist    Commission. Motion Approved: 5-0 Garner Voting Against: None 1.B Meeting Minutes  Voting For: Lawrence Romero, Michael J Walton, Alton Martin, Jennifer Powell, Stuart  Consideration and possible action to approve the minutes from the August 8, 2024, regular meeting of the Historic and Architectural Review Commission - Erica Metress, Moved by Lawrence Romero; seconded by Evan Hein to Approve the minutes from the August 8, 2024, regular meeting of the Historic and Architectural Review Commission. Voting For: Lawrence Romero, Michael J Walton, Evan Hein, Alton Martin, Jennifer  Planning Specialist  Motion Approved: 6-0 Powell, Stuart Garner Voting Against: None  At the chair's discretion, the agenda items were reordered as follows: 1.D, 1.E, 1.C, and  1.F.  1.C 2024-33-COA (817 S. Austin Ave)  Public Hearing and action on a request for a Certificate of Appropriateness (COA) for an alteration of street-facing façade (elevation facing S. Austin Avenue) on a Low Priority Structure located at the property addressed at 817 S. Austin Avenue, bearing the legal description of Lots 6-8 (PTS), Block 51, City of Georgetown 2024-33-COA) - Maddison  O'Kelley, Preservation and Redevelopment Manager Maddison O'Kelley presented the staff report.  Adam Starr, applicant, approached the podium to address the Commission and explained that he lived in Georgetown for 35 years. Starr shared that he felt that his building represents the spirit of Georgetown with a lot of history behind it. Starr shared that the design of the building was influenced by the desire to represent the history of the building and the historic components. Starr highlighted that the Commission would note the timber Commissioner Romero shared that he enjoyed the visibility of the rafters and asked if interior lights would be left on at night to illuminate the interior of the building. Starr explained that during the last HARC meeting in which this request was presented, that his architects provided insight on the proposed Low-E windows to provide a barrier for the heat. Starr acknowledged that the plan is to have concealed interior lighting that would Commissioner Romero asked about the process in which the brick was chosen. O'Kelley explained that the design guidelines provide guidance on brick dimensions and added that there is a general recommendation that stone, or brick laid should look human scale. Commissioner Romero commented that the rendering of the request makes it  trusses, interior brick wall, and interior floors.  light up the space at night.    look more modern and questioned ift there was a way to change the brick color to keep the aesthetic. Starr acknowledged that the color of the brick was considered and discussed. Starr explained that the proposed bricks were chosen to match the existing Commissioner Hein asked about the plan for the AC ducts intended for the 2nd floor and its visibility from the proposed window. Starr explained that the HVAC units would be placed further back in the building and would not have much visibility from the street. Commissioner Hein acknowledged that the ground floor changes are positive but shared that he believed the 2nd floor window does not appear to be in keeping with Chair Walton shared that the canopies and kick plates are good changes.  brick wall.  surrounding buildings.  Commissioner Powell referred to the staff report that stated lighting specifications have not been provided yet. Commissioner Powell asked staff if there was guidance on the impact of the illumination at this scale. O'Kelley explained that the guidelines note shielding for light fixtures as well as warmth of the light. O'Kelley added that there are Commissioner Martin asked staff if there are requirements for windows on a commercial building. O'Kelley acknowledged that there are no ratio requirements, but there is Commissioner Martin shared that he struggled with the amount of glass above the first Commissioner Romero inquired about the insulation for the roof. Starr explained that there currently is a tin roof, 6 inches of ISO foam board, and TPO rubber membrane  UDC criteria, including interior lighting.  guidance on the upper floor windows being more opaque.  floor.  roof.  Chair Walton opened the public hearing.  Liz' Weaver, 1221 South Main Street, approached the podium to address the Commission and acknowledged that she liked some of the changes. However, Weaver highlighted that the applicant did not change the design ini the 2nd story window and roof line. Weaver considered the proposition as a rehabilitation of the structure and noted that some Secretary of Interior Standards refer to minimal changes to the features. Weaver disagreed that the proposition is creating minimal changes and referred to the changes as a statement. Weaver highlighted that the Secretary of Interior Standards also note that the new features should match the old features in design, color, texture, and materials. Weaver shared that this was not apparent in the proposal. Weaver shared that she disagreed with staff's findings for the 3rd, 5th, 6th and 7th criteria.  Weaver asked that the Commission think about whether the    proposition preserves the character of the historic overlay and concluded with a request that the Commission ask the applicant to change the design of request.  Chair Walton closed the public hearing.  Starr clarified that the glass does not have a film but is created out of a higher,  professional grade.  Chair Walton asked if there was consideration to increase the level of opacity to the 2nd floor window. Starr shared that it was considered to increase the level of opacity of the 2nd floor window but shared that it would make large difference in the way it is visible in Moved by Evan Hein; seconded by Alton Martin to Deny as presented because Design Guideline A.3.b does not comply in that the upper floors should be perceived as being more oaque than the lower floor, and that the overall character of the historic district  the evening versus the day.  is not protected.. Motion Approved: 4-2  Voting For: Evan Hein, Alton Martin, Jennifer Powell, Stuart Garner Voting Against: Lawrence Romero, Michael J Walton  1.D 2024-34-COA (1002 S. Elm Street)  Public Hearing and possible action on a request for a Certificate of Appropriateness (COA) for a newi fence, railing or wall that is inconsistent with the overlay district's characteristics and applicable guidelines for the property located at 1002 Elm Street, bearing the legal description of all of Lot 1 and part of Lot 2, Block 20, Glasscock Addition 2024-34-COA) - Olivia Beams, Historic and Downtown Planner  Olivia Beams presented the staff report.  Janis Shields, applicant, approached the podium to address the Commission and clarified that she added the fence on the west property line. Shields noted that the south property fence will be a request in the future and has not been replaced yet. Chair Walton opened and closed the public hearing with no speakers coming forth and Moved by Evan Hein; seconded by Jennifer Powell to Approve as presented. Voting For: Lawrence Romero, Michael J' Walton, Evan Hein, Alton Martin, Jennifer  asked for a motion from the dais. Motion Approved: 6-0 Powell, Stuart Garner Voting Against: None    1.E 2024-23-COA (911 Walnut Street)  Public Hearing and possible action on a request for a Certificate of Appropriateness (COA) for an addition to a street-facing facade, a 7' setback encroachment into the required 10' rear setback, and a 3' setback encroachment into the 6' side setback for the property located at 911 Walnut, bearing the legal description of 0.37 acres out of Block 92 (SW/COR) Dimmit Addition, 2024-23-COA) - Maddison O'Kelley, Preservation and  Redevelopment Manager  Maddison O'Kelley presented the staff report.  Commissioner Romero inquired about the height of the structure.  John Lawton, applicant, approached the podium to address the Commission and noted Commissioner Hein asked if any second story windows were planned toi face the neighbors' yards. Lawton acknowledged that 1 set of windows would face the neighbors Commissioner Hein asked staff if there was a distinction between a deck and al balcony. O'Kelley explained that, unfortunately, there is no distinction in the design guidelines and the UDC. O'Kelley acknowledged that staff would review against the intent which ini this After receiving clarification on design guideline C.3.a, Chair Walton questioned staff's analysis for it. O'Kelley apologized on staff's behalf for the error in not updating the Chair Walton opened and closed the public hearing with no speakers coming forth and Moved by Alton Martin; seconded by Lawrence Romero to Approve as presented. Voting For: Lawrence Romero, Michael J Walton, Evan Hein, Alton Martin, Jennifer  that the height will not change from its original design.  on the west.  case is the intent of a deck.  slide to reflect that design guideline C.3.a was compliant.  asked for a motion from the dais. Motion Approved: 6-0 Powell, Stuart Garner Voting Against: None 1.F Discussion Items  Updates on Upcoming Training for HARC Commissioners, Downtown Master Plan, UDC Rewrite, and Commissioner questions and comments Maddison O'Kelley, Preservation Sofia Nelson, Planning Director, noted that there will be a dedicated workshop session  and Redevelopment Manager  just to for Unified Development Code discussion in September.  Adjournment    These minutes were approved at the meeting of    Chair/  LA  Attest  s