1  1 2  OLD FORGE BOROUGH COUNCIL  3 IN RE: REGULAR MEETING OF COUNCIL  4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  HELD:  Tuesday, March 19, 2024  TIME: 7:00 P.M. LOCATION:  OLD FORGE MUNICIPAL BUILDING 310 South Main Street 01d Forge, Pennsylvania  COUNCIL  MEMBERS:  RUSSELL RINALDI, President JIM HOOVER, Vice President MICHELE AVVISATO - absent ANDREW BUTLER - absent  RICK NOTARI MICHAEL KOMENSKY JENNA JONES-SHOTWELL  MARYLYNN BARTOLETTI, Borough Manager  ROBERT LEGG, Mayor  WILLIAM RINALDI, Esquire, Solicitor  MICHELLE SMOLSKIS OFFICIAL COURT REPORTER    2  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MR. RINALDI: Good evening, ladies  and gentlemen. I'd like to start with the  Pledge of allegiance, please.  (Pledge of Allegiance.)  MR. RINALDI: Roll call, please,  Marylynn.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilwoman  Shotwell?  MS. SHOTWELL: Here. MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman  Komensky?  MR. KOMENSKY: Here.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Notari?  MR. NOTARI: Present.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Butler  is absent. Councilwoman Avvisato is absent.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Hoover?  MR. HOOVER: Present.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Rinaldi? MR. RINALDI: Here. Once again,  ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the regular meeting of the 01d Forge Borough. Tonight is  Tuesday, March 19, 2024.    3  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  The purpose of our meeting is to go  through a few housekeeping motions. We'17 go down the table, we'11 hear from your members of Council, our Mayor, solicitor and our borough manager. We'1l hear from our department heads.  h have a public sign-in sheet up  here, if anyone who didn't already sign in would like to address us, we'11 give you a few minutes at the end of the meeting before we  move in to new business.  With that said, we're going to move  into our first housekeeping motion, and that's going to be a motion to approve the minutes  from the prior meeting.  MS. SHOTWELL: I'11 make that  motion, Mr. Chairman.  MR. RINALDI: Motion on the floor by  Councilwoman Jones Shotwell.  MR. KOMENSKY: I'17 second it. MR. RINALDI: Second by Councilman  Komensky. On the question?  (No response.)  MR. RINALDI: Public input?  (No response.)  MR. RINALDI: Roll call, please.    4  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MS. - BARTOLETTI: Councilwoman  Shotwe11?  MS. SHOTWELL: Yes. MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman  Komensky?  MR. KOMENSKY: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Notari?  MR. NOTARI: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Hoover?  MR. HOOVER: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Rinaldi? MR. RINALDI: Yes. Second item is  motion to approve treasurer report. Please note, this does not include the sewer account.  MS. SHOTWELL: I'11 make that  motion.  MR. RINALDI: Motion on the floor by  Councilwoman Jones Shotwell.  MR. HOOVER: I'11 second it. MR. RINALDI: Second by Councilman  Hoover. On the question?  (No response.)  MR. RINALDI: Public input?  (No response.)  MR. RINALDI: Roll call, please.    5  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilwoman  Shotwell?  MS. SHOTWELL: Yes. MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman  Komensky?  MR. KOMENSKY: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Notari?  MR. NOTARI: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Hoover?  MR. HOOVER: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Rinaldi? MR. RINALDI: Yes. Third item is  motion to approve invoices for payment. Please note, once again, this does not include the  sewer account.  MS. SHOTWELL: I'17 make that  motion.  MR. RINALDI: Motion on the floor by  Councilwoman Jones Shotwell.  MR. KOMENSKY: I'11 second it. MR. RINALDI: Second by Councilman  Komensky. On the question?  (No response.)  MR. RINALDI: Public input?  (No response.)    6  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MR. RINALDI: Roll call, please. MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilwoman  Shotwell?  MS. SHOTWELL: Yes. MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman  Komensky?  MR. KOMENSKY: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Notari?  MR. NOTARI: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Hoover?  MR. HOOVER: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Rinaldi? MR. RINALDI: Yes. Fourth item is a  motion to approve treasurer's report for the  sewer department.  MR. NOTARI: I'11 make that motion,  Mr. Chairman.  MR. RINALDI: Motion on the floor by  Councilman Notari.  MR. HOOVER: I'11 second it. MR. RINALDI: Second by Councilman  Hoover. On the question?  (No response.)  MR. RINALDI: Public input?  (No response.)    7  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MR. RINALDI: Roll call, please. MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilwoman  Shotwe11?  MS. SHOTWELL: Yes. MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman  Komensky?  MR. KOMENSKY: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Notari?  MR. NOTARI: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Hoover?  MR. HOOVER: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Rinaldi? MR. RINALDI: Yes. Last item under  nousekeeping is motion to approve sewer department invoices for payment.  MR. NOTARI: I'11 make that motion,  Mr. Chairman.  MR. RINALDI: Motion on the floor by  Councilman Notari.  MR. KOMENSKY: I'17 second it. MR. RINALDI: Second by Councilman  Komensky. On the question?  (No response.)  MR. RINALDI: Public input?  (No response.)    8  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MR. RINALDI: Roll call, please. MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilwoman  Shotwel1?  MS. SHOTWELL: Yes. MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman  Komensky?  MR. KOMENSKY: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Notari?  MR. NOTARI: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Hoover?  MR. HOOVER: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Rinaldi? MR. RINALDI: Yes. We'11 go into  our department heads. Our first department  head is Mike SOKOlOwSK1, code  enforcement/zoning officer. We have Michael's report. Mike, anything for the meeting?  MR. SOKOLOWSKI: No, I have nothing  for the meeting.  MR. RINALDI: Any members have any  questions for Michael?  MR. NOTARI: Mike, Kohler Avenue,  the property between Kohler and Hillcrest has turned into a garbage dump. I've gotten a few complaints. Can we contact the owner of the    9  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  land and have them clean it up? And can you also post, or do we post, no dumping? I'm not  sure :  MR. SOKOLOWSKI: I C don't know if we  can. I'm not sure.  MR. NOTARI: I - don't know if that's  our responsibility.  ATTY. RINALDI: That wouldn't be us. MR. NOTARI: That would be the  property owner. It's a mess.  MR. KOMENSKY: It's across from  the :  MR. NOTARI: Across from the housing  authority.  MR. KOMENSKY: Yeah. I got a  picture yesterday.  MR. NOTARI: Yeah.  MR. SOKOLOWSKI: On the back side  there. Okay. IK know.  MR. NOTARI: Yeah. MR. SOKOLOWSKI: Yes.  MR. NOTARI: Yeah. I've gotten  pictures. It's bags of garbage just thrown on  the property.  MR. SOKOLOWSKI: A1l right.    10  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MR. NOTARI: Thanks. I - appreciate  that.  MR. SOKOLOWSKI: Yep.  MR. RINALDI: Any other members have  any questions for Michael?  (No response.)  MR. RINALDI: Thanks, Mike. MR. SOKOLOWSKI: Thanks. MR. RINALDI: You're welcome.  Engineer, Dave Lopatka, anything for the  meeting?  MR. LOPATKA: I have nothing for the  meeting. I did send Marylynn the traffic study for Marion and Oak. I don't know if you guys  had a chance to :  MR. HOOVER: Yeah, we have it. MS. BARTOLETTI: Idid send it out  to everyone. Uh-huh.  MR. NOTARI: Unfortunately, not what  we wanted to hear.  MS. SHOTWELL: Right.  MR. LOPATKA: There's not that much  traffic. I think the biggest thing, and I was talking to the Chief before, is the sight distance left. I mean, that's probably the key    11  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  to the whole --  MR. NOTARI: Right.  MR. LOPATKA: - the road. There's  just not that much traffic. I mean, you look at the numbers, and it peaks at, like, 7:30 to 8, and then not much the rest of the day, and  then it peaks at 3:30.  MR. NOTARI: Well, we'11 do what we  can. We have the ordinances to be approved tonight to fix the parking situation there,  sO :  MR. LOPATKA: Yeah. I think that's  the biggest thing is the sight distance left.  MR. NOTARI: Hopefully that'17 help  the safety.  MR. HOOVER: The morning paper, it  took Scranton three years to get three intersections, their lighting fixed on three  intersections.  MR. KOMENSKY: Yeah.  MR. HOOVER: How long it may take  this.  MR. KOMENSKY: Yeah. I saw that  Green to Go program.  MR. HOOVER: I thought we would have    12  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  put the other flashing arrow board that we had at the other side to have it go both ways, because nothing's stopping them from going down the hill and flying, rather than coming up the hill, but it's up in front of the  firehouse.  MR. KOMENSKY: Yeah.  MR. RINALDI: Well, temporarily :  MR. KOMENSKY: Yeah.  MR. RINALDI: : we put it up at the  firehouse.  MS. SHOTWELL: Right.  MR. RINALDI: Because we asked Joe  to get us a price on another :  MS. SHOTWELL: Flashing light sign. MR. RINALDI: : another flashing  light sign SO we could put how we discussed. Remember, Bill, we discussed putting one a little bit before the firehouse, even closer coming before where you could put that sign, because, obviously, that sign, there's not a lot of room to put it? I saw where you put it.  You had to put it there.  CHIEF DUBERNAS: Yeah. We just  tried to put it somewhere where it wouldn't get    13  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  struck, you know what I mean, for a  temporary :  MR. RINALDI: For a temporary. CHIEF DUBERNAS: I could make it a  flashing lights sign, but me and the Chief, we spoke about it, somewhere probably around the  Ziemba residence.  MR. RINALDI: On the right-hand side  coming up, coming :  CHIEF DUBERNAS: Yeah. MR. RINALDI: Right.  CHIEF DUBERNAS: Or somewhere :  because the rock wall is there on Ray Street,  so :  MR. RINALDI: So, like Councilman  Hoover said, I know we don't have another message board to put there, and as Councilman Notari said, that wasn't the answer we were  looking for for a traffic study.  MR. NOTARI: Right.  MR. RINALDI: Dave, is there  anything else we could do over on Marion Street as far as any : I know we have the one signal on the east, coming up east, I know we have that, do we put another one on the other side?    14  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  CHIEF DUBERNAS: Well, I was talking  to Dave after reading the traffic thing, the  issue's not looking right.  MS. SHOTWELL: Right.  CHIEF DUBERNAS: Because you could  see all the way up to :  MS. SHOTWELL: Because it's a hill.  CHIEF DUBERNAS: MS. SHOTWELL: Yeah.  past LLVSA.  CHIEF DUBERNAS: Looking left, when  there's no cars there, you have no issue pulling out. So, I think once we adjust this  sight distance :  MR. RINALDI: Right.  CHIEF DUBERNAS: : then see how it  goes. You know, we'11 leave the signs up. I just asked Mare who adjusts the crosswalk  signs.  Now, today I drove by, they were  shut off at 3:30. So, she said it's a company, sO we're going to reach out tomorrow to change  it to 4:30, sO that gives us :  MS. BARTOLETTI: The time change  knocked it off.  CHIEF DUBERNAS: What is it?    15  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MS. BARTOLETTI: The time change. MR. RINALDI: Daylight savings  time :  CHIEF DUBERNAS: Oh.  MR. RINALDI: : might have knocked  it off last week.  CHIEF DUBERNAS: Okay. Yeah. So,  like I said, if there's no cars there, there's no issues there. Like, you could see all the way down to Mr. Davis's house, Wama's  (phonetic) house.  MR. HOOVER: I think once the  weather gets better, we paint the crosswalks the white and we stripe them, and it'17 be  bright white.  MR. LOPATKA: Well, that'11 help. MR. HOOVER: You'1l have three of  them, two on Oak Street and one on Marion, and I think that'17 brighten it up, too.  MR. LOPATKA: Yeah. MR. HOOVER: That'11 help. MR. LOPATKA: The key is that left  sight distance, sO :  MR. HOOVER: Yeah. MR. RINALDI: Right.    16  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MR. HOOVER: Plus that sight  distance, it'17 help.  MR. LOPATKA: Because, obviously, if  those cars aren't there, you can't -- you could  see 400 feet.  MR. HOOVER: Yeah. Uh-huh. MR. LOPATKA: But it's when they're  parked there you can't see, especially if you're sitting in a car. If you're in a bus, it's probably a different story because you're  up higher.  MR. HOOVER: Do we have to put that  line painting out for bid?  MR. LOPATKA: The what?  MR. HOOVER: The line painting out  for bid?  MS. BARTOLETTI: It depends on how  much it is. It depends on the cost.  MR. HOOVER: I can't see it being  that much.  MR. LOPATKA: I wouldn't think you'd  need to bid it. I mean, with those, I mean, they heat them, they put them down, they're probably there for an hour and a half.  MR. HOOVER: Yeah.    17  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MR. SOKOLOWSKI: Didn't Joe talk to  Baxter's (phonetic)?  MS. BARTOLETTI: Yes.  MR. SOKOLOWSKI: They have some  contractors that deal with Baxter's where we  get our materials from.  MR. HOOVER: Oh, good.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Yeah. He's got a  process :  (Inaudible crosstalk.)  MS. BARTOLETTI: We just have to see  where the pricing, you know, approximately where it comes in for what we need. It should be well under, you know, the normal spending :  MR. HOOVER: Normal spending. Good.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Yeah. MR. HOOVER: Okay. Good. MR. RINALDI: Chief : I'm sorry.  Go ahead, Dave. Chief, remember a few years back you brought it to our attention, you were looking to possibly see if we could purchase one of those mobile speed limit signs, the digital speed limit signs? Remember? You said you could move them from street to street.  CHIEF DUBERNAS: Yeah. That was the    18  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  post sign.  MR. RINALDI: Yeah. It's :- CHIEF DUBERNAS: Yeah.  MR. RINALDI: It almost likes like a  speed limit sign but it's digital.  CHIEF DUBERNAS: It's a post. MR. RINALDI: It just brings  awareness to, like, I mean :  CHIEF DUBERNAS: Yeah. A flashing  light :  MR. RINALDI: Right. That has  flashing lights. Maybe, I mean, I'm not saying that's the answer over there, I'm just trying to bring as much, you know, awareness as  possible.  MR. NOTARI: Make it a deterrent.  MR. RINALDI: Right. MR. NOTARI: Yeah.  MR. RINALDI: Maybe get us a price  on one of those to see what they cost.  CHIEF DUBERNAS: A17 right. MR. RINALDI: A1l right?  MR. HOOVER: And the paving keeps  changing, the money keeps changing, sO you're going to have a list over the next week.    19  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MR. LOPATKA: A11 right.  MR. RINALDI: Dave, anything else? MR. LOPATKA: No. I just gave  Marylynn a preliminary drawing for the infield project up at Pagnotti's. That'11 be ready to go out to bid in the next two weeks.  MR. NOTARI: So, Dave, we had a rec  committee meeting and we discussed the infield there. Is part of the plans to put in an  irrigation system?  MR. LOPATKA: It wasn't.  MR. NOTARI: Okay. From our talking  with the baseball coaches that use that field, they feel like just digging up and putting it in isn't going to help because there's nothing  to water the grass there.  MR. LOPATKA: I would agree. Yeah,  - - mean, especially if -- because what I'm  proposing is to sod it.  MR. NOTARI: Right.  MR. LOPATKA: Because if you just  plant grass, it's two or three growing seasons before you actually have an established  you're better off putting sod in.  MR. NOTARI: So, can we put an    20  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  irrigation system in to the bid? Should it be  all one or should it be :  MR. LOPATKA: We could. I mean, the  other thing that I was looking at, actually today, the grades on that infield aren't the best, but to grade it the right way :  MS. BARTOLETTI: It's already done,  the grades. I mean, they've been working on it, sO a lot of the area is cut out based on the measurements that you gave them.  MR. LOPATKA: Yeah, but that's the  area in the outfield, right?  MS. BARTOLETTI: In the outfield to  chop off all those lips and bumps and all that  kind of stuff.  MR. LOPATKA: Well, that's different  than actually grading, because the way that : just looking at the grades that are there, home plate should be basically the highest point and everything should grade away from it  out, yeah.  And the way that it's graded now in  the existing condition, there's - you could tell on the contours that there's some low  spots all over the place.    21  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  But to grade it the right way, even  to just cut the outfield, you may have to go a little further and actually grade from home  plate away.  But the hard part is to tie into all  the existing fences and stuff that you have there sO that we're not, you know, moving fences and all kinds of other stuff.  MR. NOTARI: Right.  MR. LOPATKA: So, that's actually  what I was looking at today. I'm trying to work some grades out so that we're not just taking four inches off, putting four inches back, and then still have the same drainage  issues.  MR. NOTARI: Right. So, can we add  that irrigation system then :  MR. LOPATKA: Sure.  MR. NOTARI: : into the bid and :  so, while we're talking about it, Jimmy, we thought that it would be best, and I don't know if this is true or not, if we were able to run the water from the Rosemount Development behind  home plate.  MR. HOOVER: No. The water :    22  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  there's currently three houses already there on  Villa Drive.  MR. LOPATKA: Right.  MR. HOOVER: There's three empty  lots that he's not going to let us go through  the empty lots :  MR. NOTARI: No.  MR. HOOVER: : or give us a right  of way.  MR. LOPATKA: You'd need an easement  right along the property line.  MR. HOOVER: Yeah.  ATTY. RINALDI: You do have an  easement from that Villa through :  MR. HOOVER: Now, at the end of the  street at Villa Drive, this map from the water company shows Villa Drive kind of - if you go down Villa Drive, it bears to the right, that alleyway that comes around, that's kind of like  Villa Drive.  I don't know if it's the truth, but  the water map shows it that way. If that's : we could run a water line off of Villa Drive down that road and then go towards the stadium with it. We'11 have to look at it, get the    23  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  water main marked.  MR. LOPATKA: Yeah. I mean, because  you don't have water over there at all.  MR. HOOVER: Maybe you're looking at  about 200 feet, maybe 300 feet of water line.  MR. NOTARI: Supposedly there's a  spigot in center field behind the fence, but we wouldn't want to run it through center field because we'd have to dig up the outfield.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Right.  MR. NOTARI: We'd run it behind the  fence along the fence line, which :  MR. HOOVER: There's not going to be  enough water there anyway.  MR. NOTARI: Right.  MR. HOOVER: Because that runs down  from Humphrey Street.  MR. LOPATKA: No. Plus you're going  tor need controls somewhere.  MR. NOTARI: Right.  MR. LOPATKA: I would imagine inside  that building that's there, you want to put  controls sO that you could :  MR. HOOVER: So, I mean  MR. LOPATKA: Because you do need to    24  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  water sod quite a bit, especially once it's put  down.  MR. HOOVER: Right. And I don't  know :  MR. LOPATKA: Is there power there,  too, or no?  MR. SOKOLOWSKI: There's no power  there either.  MR. HOOVER: I - don't know if there's  power there.  MR. LOPATKA: Yeah, you need both. MR. NOTARI: Well, there's power to  the scoreboard.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Power to the  scoreboard, yeah. I think that's :  MR. NOTARI: Would we be able to run  a - conduit along the fence line?  MR. LOPATKA: You could get a trench  right along the outside. It doesn't have to be deep for power. You could put a conduit in the  ground.  I don't know, you probably have to  have somebody take a look at that, because if we tapped off that, you'd probably want some kind of breaker or something inside that    25  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  building where you're going to put the other  sprinkler system.  MR. NOTARI: Right.  MR. RINALDI: Well, if we put it  into the bid, whoever bids it is going to know that we need : we just have to tell them which way we want the water coming from. Like Councilman Notari said, we don't want it coming  from the center field.  MR. LOPATKA: Yeah, but we don't  want to leave it, like, totally up to them.  MR. RINALDI: No, no, no. No, no,  that's not what I mean. You would be the one as the engineer to tell them where we want it  coming from. show that.  MR. LOPATKA: Yeah. We'17 have to  MR. RINALDI: Right. That's what I  mean.  MR. LOPATKA: But I also -- I  mean, if you guys look at it just for the  controls :  MR. RINALDI: Right.  MR. LOPATKA: : and whatever else  that we need.    26  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MR. RINALDI: No, no, you tell them  where, the direction we want.  MR. LOPATKA: Yeah. You don't want  to let just the contractor go free. We don't  want that.  MR. NOTARI: No.  MR. RINALDI: Right. I agree. MR. NOTARI: Speaking of which,  Coach DiMattia, Coach Tony DiMattia, also asked that we include in the bid that the sod is a bluegrass perennial rye mixture, 80/20. I'm just saying. He said it's a lot easier to take care of as opposed to the fescue-type sod.  MR. LOPATKA: Bluegrass? MR. NOTARI: Bluegrass/perennial  rye, 80/20 mixture, is what he told me. That the fescue is a good growing grass but it's not good to take care : it's not easily taken care  of.  MR. LOPATKA: Okay.  MR. NOTARI: I'm just passing along  the request.  MR. RINALDI: He's the baseball  coach.  MR. NOTARI: Right.    27  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MR. RINALDI: He takes care of all  the fields down there. He knows. He definitely knows more than us.  MR. NOTARI: On top of that, he also  told us that they're going to restart the American Legion baseball program. I guess the  three tri-Dorough towns.  Well, he said 01d Forge and Taylor.  IV would assume Moosic would be in with us, as well. So, that field will be getting more use  throughout its lifetime.  We did tell him that we wanted to  start this project as soon as the high school season ended. He said that would be fine. They could use the field in Taylor for this  year if they need to.  MR. LOPATKA: Okay. Yeah, I'11 look  into those items, the electrical, the water,  and the specialty sod.  MR. NOTARI: Yeah. That's all.  Thanks, Dave.  MR. RINALDI: David, anything else?  MR. LOPATKA: No.  MR. RINALDI: Any members have  anything else for David?    28  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  (No response.)  MR. RINALDI: Thank you, Dave.  MR. LOPATKA: Yep.  MR. RINALDI: Police Chief Jason  Dubernas. Jay, anything for the meeting?  CHIEF DUBERNAS: No. Just the  traffic study I received, but   MR. RINALDI: Any members have any  questions for the Chief of police?  MR. NOTARI: Chief. CHIEF DUBERNAS: Yes, sir? MR. NOTARI: A complaint, and I've  seen complaints on Facebook, about trucks turning into 1st Street to go to King Koil, getting stuck there, not being able to make the turn, from Moosic Road to 1st Street coming up  Moosic Road.  CHIEF DUBERNAS: Oh, sO they're  missing   MR. HOOVER: They can't make the  left.  CHIEF DUBERNAS: - Maxson.  MR. NOTARI: They're missing Maxson  and they're trying to turn down 1st. I'm not sure what we can do. From what I was told    29  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  today, it seems to be the Road Scholar trucks are the ones that seem to be having trouble all  the time with taking that route.  CHIEF DUBERNAS: A1l right. I'11 go  talk to the gentleman at King Koil, because that's who mostly comes in there, because they  usually :  MR. RINALDI: Road Scholar is the  mattress factory.  MR. NOTARI: Right.  CHIEF DUBERNAS: They used to come  around the back of the mattress factory the back of the football field to the mattress  or  factory.  MR. NOTARI: So, then my other  question would be can we make that a no truck entrance? Can we put signs up that would say,  like, it's not a truck route?  CHIEF DUBERNAS: Yeah. I - think if  we  MR. HOOVER: No left-hand turn. MR. NOTARI: That's not even a bad  idea.  CHIEF DUBERNAS: I think James, I  think we should put : if that's the case,    30  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  we'11 put a sign on James, like outside of a pole that says all trucks would turn into James, because James comes right out on the little league field, which would make it easier  for them.  MR. HOOVER: That's the widest  street.  CHIEF DUBERNAS: And it's a wider  street, yeah.  MR. NOTARI: That's wider than  Maxson Drive?  MS. SHOTWELL: Yeah. Wider than 1st  Street.  MR. NOTARI: Because Maxson comes  out to :-  CHIEF DUBERNAS: Yeah, Maxson's  wide, but I think James is wider. I'17 check.  MR. NOTARI: Okay.  CHIEF DUBERNAS: I think James is  gonna be easier to make the turn off of.  MR. NOTARI: Okay.  MR. RINALDI: 1st Street isn't  marked for no trucks right now?  CHIEF DUBERNAS: No, because they  use that : well, back in the day it used to be    31  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  PA Bedding, that used to be a designated route  in and out of there.  MR. HOOVER: Every night there's one  truck that goes down there, and sometimes they  can't turn because of cars.  CHIEF DUBERNAS: Lately they've been  coming out making the right and going around and going out James Street or Maxson, but I see  more trucks go down James Street.  MR. RINALDI: Bill, if we don't want  to put any truck traffic on 1st Street, do we  have to make an ordinance?  ATTY. RINALDI: Yeah. MR. RINALDI: Okay.  ATTY. RINALDI: Is it one already?  I mean, I haven't looked.  CHIEF DUBERNAS: I don't know. MR. RINALDI: If not, could we have  it for next meeting, please?  CHIEF DUBERNAS: I think that's why  there was no parking on the east side of 1st Street because of the trucks used to use that  by the park.  MR. NOTARI: Well, I looked coming  to the meeting and there's a fire engine there,    32  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  so you really can't park close to the corner, and it's :- but it's on the west side of the  street.  MR. KOMENSKY: On the left side when  you turn, right, Ricky? The fire engine?  MR. NOTARI: Yeah. MR. KOMENSKY: Yeah.  MR. NOTARI: On the west side of the  street, where I think there's problems. And to me, the problems are that everybody has a car these days; whereas, in the old days :  MR. RINALDI: Right. A lot more  traffic on the streets.  MR. NOTARI: : the streets weren't  as populated with cars, sO they were wider.  CHIEF DUBERNAS: That's why I think  if you use James Street, because you only have the apartment building, which only has, like, maybe one or two cars, it's actually for sale  now :  MR. NOTARI: Right.  CHIEF DUBERNAS: : and then you  have, across from Doc Matone's house, that little corner house, that maybe has a car, but the rest of the street's wide open there.    33  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MR. NOTARI: I have no problem with  that. Just sO we could alleviate that truck  traffic from going down 1st.  MR. RINALDI: Chief, let me ask you  a question, because I don't know how it works, these trucking companies, for instance, this Road Scholar, those are most, if not all the trucks that are always in the mattress factory, that's King Koil, the old King Koil -  CHIEF DUBERNAS: Right. MR. RINALDI: : how are they  designed to get from their pick up to their drop off? Do they get instructed by the company they work for or do they just use  regular GPS?  CHIEF DUBERNAS: Most of them use a  commercial truck GPS because of the : it gives you the bridge requirements and road sizes.  MR. RINALDI: So, even if you go  down there and talk to the owner of the company and say, Could you instruct your drivers to  go  CHIEF DUBERNAS: Ask them not to use  First Street.  MR. RINALDI: : this way    34  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  although they do instruct them, let's say some guy or woman is just off course and GPS's it, it could still send them to 1st Street?  CHIEF DUBERNAS: Well, that was what  happened with Alicia Street and West Mary  Street :  MR. RINALDI: Right.  CHIEF DUBERNAS: : when they were  trying to go to Northeast Envelope, they kept on making the turns there, because technically,  they're not a no truck street :  MR. RINALDI: Right. CHIEF DUBERNAS:  because :-  MR. RINALDI: The GPS is taking them  that way. Right. Okay. So, then I think if we make the ordinance for the next meeting, Bill, for no truck traffic on 1st Street, and then maybe if we get some signs on it, as well,  and then, like you said :  CHIEF DUBERNAS: Yeah. I think it  would have to be James Street.  MR. RINALDI: : another sign on  James Street that says all truck traffic this  way.  CHIEF DUBERNAS: Truck route.    35  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MR. RINALDI: A11 truck route this  way.  ATTY. RINALDI: On what street do  you want it?  MR. RINALDI: James.  CHIEF DUBERNAS: James. The truck  route will go to James. That'11 be the easiest way to get in. And they'11 just go around the  back of the Maxson :  MR. NOTARI: But we don't need an  ordinance for that.  MR. RINALDI: No, no, no. The  ordinance we need, Bill, is no truck traffic on  1st Street.  MR. NOTARI: What blocks would that  be?  (Inaudible crosstalk.)  MR. RINALDI: That would go from MR. HOOVER: Two hundred block. MS. SHOTWELL: Two hundred block. CHIEF DUBERNAS: That's the 200. MR. RINALDI: That would go from  Moosic Road to East Grace.  CHIEF DUBERNAS: No, because you  can't - - it has to go :    36  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  (Inaudible crosstalk.)  MR. RINALDI: Or Moosic Road to  Miles. Right. That's right, Moosic Road to  Miles.  MS. SHOTWELL: Right.  CHIEF DUBERNAS: Two blocks by the  park.  MR. RINALDI: Right. Chief,  anything else?  CHIEF DUBERNAS: (Indicating no.) MR. RINALDI: Any other members have  any questions for the Chief?  CHIEF DUBERNAS: And, also, just one  other thing, maybe we could put a sign, talk to the school, maybe put a sign, like : or right there on the sidewalk when they're coming out the driveway of PA Bedding that says, A11  trucks turn right.  MR. RINALDI: In front of the field  house?  CHIEF DUBERNAS: Uh-huh. MR. RINALDI: Yeah. MS. SHOTWELL: Yeah.  MR. RINALDI: Would that be you that  contacts them, or do you want one of us    37  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  CHIEF DUBERNAS: I could reach out  to the school. I would reach out to PA Bedding, see if we could put a sign right there on their fence that says, A1l trucks have to  turn right.  MR. RINALDI: Yeah. If you want to  contact the school.  MS. SHOTWELL: Yeah. That'17 help,  too.  MR. RINALDI: I mean, if it'1l keep  traffic flowing, hopefully flowing one way.  (Inaudible crosstalk.)  CHIEF DUBERNAS: : go around East  Grace and back to Maxson to James.  MR. RINALDI: And then get back on  Moosic Road and go right back to the highway that way. You want to contact the school and  ask them?  CHIEF DUBERNAS: (Indicating yes.) MR. RINALDI: A11 right. And then  we'17 put the signs up. Any other members have  any questions for the Chief?  (No response.)  MR. RINALDI: Thanks, Chief. Bill  Stull, assistant fire chief, anything for the    38  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  meeting?  MR. STULL: No, nothing at all. MR. RINALDI: Anybody have any  questions, any members have any questions for  Bill?  (No response.)  MR. RINALDI: Thank you, Bill.  Attorney Rinaldi.  ATTY. RINALDI: Do you want me to go  what you have on your :  MR. RINALDI: Please.  ATTY. RINALDI: : agenda tonight?  You have an ordinance to adopt the  International Property Code for the Borough. So, it's the 2018 International Property Code with some changes that are recommended that it  take out some of the detail in it.  So, if you look at the ordinance in  front of you, you'1l see the amendments are in the italic and bold. So, you're adopting the code as it exists right now, the 2018, because your BOCA code doesn't exist any longer. It's now everybody uses the International Property  Maintenance Code.  So, it's kind of fill in the blanks.    39  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  So, you know, insert Borough of 01d Forge. We don't have a fee schedule yet. I'm going to let Mike go through it, because I went through it and I didn't know what he wants to charge for different items, or if he'd want to even  charge for them.  You know, you see ten inches, that's  because you already have an ordinance that your grass is ten inches high, sO I changed it to ten inches and just took out some of the broader terms with regards to, like, windows, cracks and things like that, which was  recommended.  So, that's basically the ordinance  for the - I have a book. I - told Marylynn, she's going to get a bunch for Mike and for the office sO that you have them. They're not that  expensive.  The second ordinance is no parking  on Oak Street, and that was after the discussion at the work session and the recommendation from the Chief, and it's going to be no parking on the south side of the 400 block of Oak Street for a distance of 90 feet from the intersection of Marion Street in the    40  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  Borough, okay?  And the second one is going to be no  parking on the west side of the 100 block of Marion Street for a distance of 50 feet from the intersection of Sussex Street. So, those are the two no parkings down at that  intersection that the Chief recommended at the  work session.  You have the resolution in front of  you to purchase a 2024 Chevrolet Silverado 2400 pick up truck from Bonner Chevrolet through the Costars program, which means you didn't have to ask for bids, and that's for $48,987.  You have a resolution to appoint :  you have a vacancy on the Zoning Hearing Board because Michael Komensky was elected to Council, sO you have - normally, you have the alternate that you move into his place, and then you're going to have to find an alternate.  So, he would finish out Mike's term,  which I believe goes to June of 20 -- I think it says it on the formal copy that you have.  MR. RINALDI: June of 2025. ATTY. RINALDI: Yep. You also have  approval tonight, approve the fee agreement    41  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  with the Cohen Law Group, okay? We've been using them now for 20 years, and they're also used by the Abington COG, sO the good news is there's now a total of : let's see, where's my latest e-mail here? We have enough people joined now into the COG, they got 12, I believe, sO that our fee now is down to 7,760. We get a 20 percent discount because there's 20 different municipalities participating in it  now.  MR. RINALDI: That's the figure  we're approving tonight?  ATTY. RINALDI: Yep. MR. RINALDI: Okay.  ATTY. RINALDI: And I have the  contract here. So, the other municipalities, if you want to know, there's Clarks Green Borough, Clarks Summit Borough, Clinton Township, Dalton Borough, Glenburn Township, Newton Township, Scott Township, South Abington  Township, Waverly Township and us.  Our contract is up in 2025. They'd  like to come in and do an audit to make sure that we've been receiving all of the fees and revenue that we're entitled to under the    42  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  current contract, and then they negotiate the new contract on behalf of us and the other municipalities with Comcast, Comcast/Xrinity. So, - that's on the agenda tonight to approve  that contract.  You also have an acceptance of a  resignation of a full-time police officer. And Ib believe that's it for this evening on the  agenda.  Oh, and we have the contract to be  awarded for Josephine Street project. I think  Dave has those bids.  MR. RINALDI: Thank you, Bill. Do  any members have any questions for the  solicitor?  (No response.)  MR. RINALDI: Thanks, Bill. Borough  manager, Marylynn Bartoletti.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Okay. First, does  anyone have any questions on my financial  reports? Any explanations?  (No response.)  MS. BARTOLETTI: Nothing. The only  other thing I wanted to bring up was the purchasing of the vehicle, but Bill already    43  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  discussed that, and I have some things to discuss with the sewer committee. So, we will be meeting next week, and then shortly after the sewer bills will be going out. And that is  all I have.  MR. RINALDI: Any of the members  have any questions for Marylynn?  MR. NOTARI: Marylynn, I received a  request from the junior football organization today, they would like to put a 10 by 20 shed  at lower Pagnotti.  They would be removing the trailer  that's there and they want to put a new shed in with a gravel base, no concrete. They're looking for our permission as they're going to  apply for a grant from the County.  MS. BARTOLETTI: To be able to pay  for it?  MR. NOTARI: To be able to pay for  it.  MS. BARTOLETTI: I wouldn't have a  problem with that.  MR. NOTARI: Okay. MS. BARTOLETTI: Yeah.  MR. NOTARI: And I talked to Julia    44  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  Insalaco, and Julia said that she probably needs to put the Borough on the grant as a cosponsor, I think. So, can I have her call  you?  MS. BARTOLETTI: Yeah. Ask her to  call me sO I could see what that is.  MR. NOTARI: Okay. But, otherwise,  we're good with it? You're good with it?  MS. BARTOLETTI: Yeah, because the  tractor trailer that's there is very  dilapidated :  MR. NOTARI: Right.  MS. BARTOLETTI: -- and needs to go.  So, - it'17 definitely be an improvement.  MR. NOTARI: Right. MS. BARTOLETTI: So, yeah. MR. NOTARI: A11 right. Good.  Thank you.  MS. BARTOLETTI: You're welcome. MR. RINALDI: Any other members have  any questions for Marylynn?  (No response.)  MR. RINALDI: Thank you, Mare. MS. BARTOLETTI: You're welcome. MR. RINALDI: Before we go into new    45  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  business, we'11 go into public comment. Robert  Zukauskas.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Good evening,  Mr. Rinaldi.  MR. RINALDI: Good evening, Robert.  If you could just state your name for the  stenographer?  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Robert Zukauskas,  Z-U-K-A-U-S-K-A-S.  MR. RINALDI: How are you, Rob? MR. ZUKAUSKAS: I'm just fine,  Mr. Rinaldi. First day of spring, isn't it  beautiful?  MR. RINALDI: We got a little bit of  snow, a little chilly weather.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: We haven't had a  winter at all. I mean, nothing. Where's the winter? Where's the winter? Anyway, blessed  spring.  I have just two things. At each  meeting, you know, the borough manager asks if there any questions about the budget or financial report, and I do have a question if I  may.  MR. RINALDI: Of course.    46  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: How much are we  spending on the clock?  MR. RINALDI: I'm sorry, you're : MR. ZUKAUSKAS: The clock. MR. RINALDI: No, no, you could  leave it on. I just couldn't hear you at  first. Go ahead.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: I'd like to know how  much we're spending for the clock that you plan on putting in the front of the Borough  building.  MR. RINALDI: How much do we have  budgeted for the clock?  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Yeah. How much do  you have budgeted for the clock?  MR. RINALDI: Marylynn? MS. BARTOLETTI: We don't have  anything budgeted for it because we haven't gotten to that point yet. It's about the design of the clock, what type of clock it was going to be. We discussed that the starting spot was in the vicinity of $30,000.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: $30,000 for a  clock?  MS. BARTOLETTI: Absolutely.    47  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Are you serious? MS. BARTOLETTI: Which is why it  hasn't :  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Oh, my goodness  gracious. There's a clock right across the street, it says 3:00 right now. It's never :  there's clocks, I mean  MR. NOTARI: And that's why we need  one.  MAYOR LEGG: Right.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: What is the : MS. BARTOLETTI: They begin at  $30,000.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: $30,000? MS. BARTOLETTI: Yes.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Now, is that, like,  one of those -- I C don't know if you saw Back to the Future, you know that clock with the lighting, it's a free-standing clock.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Yeah.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Is it something like MS. BARTOLETTI: If you drive into  that, $30,000?  Moosic, do you know where the Moosic Municipal  building is?    48  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: On the left-hand  side where the insurance : Gallia is on the  right and : okay. Yeah.  MR. RINALDI: Yeah. Right before  the train tracks.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Okay. Yes. MS. BARTOLETTI: That's a small  version of one of these type of clocks.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: So, that is a free  standing -- I have to look at it. It's not  attached to the building?  MS. BARTOLETTI: No. It's standing  on a post and the clock is on top of it.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Right.  MS. BARTOLETTI: That is the type of  clock. I mean, that's probably the most basic  model.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: And that is  $30,000?  MS. BARTOLETTI: Pretty much. MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Okay.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Yeah. Now, if you  go to Dunmore :  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Yeah. MS. - BARTOLETTI:  and I believe    49  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  it's in front of the Dunmore Municipal Building, if you look at theirs, theirs is :  where is it?  MR. LOPATKA: It's on the way down  Drinker Street where the split is.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Okay. So, it's at  the split :  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: They probably spent  about $50,000 in Dunmore.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Exactly. MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Exactly.  MS. BARTOLETTI: It's four-sided. MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Oh my God. Now,  let me ask you one thing, I will bet you $20 that that clock has the wrong time.  The clock, like this, 3:00, to whose  responsibility is it to make sure that clock :- like, we have daylight savings time, who's  going to change that clock?  MS. BARTOLETTI: I don't know. MR. RINALDI: Wait. Who's going to  change what clock, Mr. Zukauskas?  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: The clock, the  $30,000 clock you want :  MR. RINALDI: Who's going to change    50  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  our clock :  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Yeah.  MR. RINALDI: : or M&T's clock? MR. ZUKAUSKAS: No. Ours. When you  put a clock in -  MR. RINALDI: When we put a clock  here?  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: : and it's daylight  savings time, who's going to change the clock?  And who's going to --  MR. RINALDI: Who would be  responsible to change it?  MR. NOTARI: I'11 volunteer to  change it.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: There. MR. NOTARI: There you go. MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Congratulations,  Mr. Rinaldi.  MR. RINALDI: No, no, not  Mr. Rinaldi. Councilman Notari. I mean, I think any of us would, but our DPW manager, one of our staff members would do it. Our zoning officer, Mr. Komensky : or, I'm sorry, Mr. SOKOlowsk1, he would do it.  I mean, we have staff who would do    51  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  it here. Who's going to change M&T's, you have  to go ask them.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Okay. Okay. Well,  Ij just think the clock is a total waste of money. Can I just make a statement? I just want to just state maybe two sentences about  this clock.  MR. RINALDI: Absolutely. That's  your opinion. State it.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Okay. I just want  tos say that the clock is very wasteful. I think the money would be better spent at least if we turn a bench of that slab we have in front. There used to be a bus stop, so if you just spend the money to return a bench to the slab we have there. I think that would be  better.  And, you know, there's elections  coming in November, can't we put a local ballot, what do you want, a bus stop or a clock? Can't we do that? I mean :-  UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Clock. MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Excuse me? UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Clock. MR. RINALDI: Could we put it on    52  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  (Inaudible crosstalk.)  UNKNOWN SPEAKER: No. We do not  need the bus stop.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Okay. I don't agree  with that :  (Inaudible crosstalk.)  UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Drop it then.  Drop it.  MR. RINALDI: Mr. Zukauskas. MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Yes?  MR. RINALDI: Mr. Zukauskas, you  asked the question.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Yes.  MR. RINALDI: Bill, could something  like that go on a ballot?  ATTY. RINALDI: I don't think so. MR. RINALDI: I ( don't think so,  correct?  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: You don't think so.  Okay. Is there any way : do you mind if I  check?  MR. RINALDI: Would you like to  look into PA law? Absolutely. Sure. You  could.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Okay.    53  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MR. RINALDI: I mean, we'd look into  it for you, as well. I'm just asking the solicitor off the top of his head. I mean, we could look into it for you. That's no problem. Im mean, I'17 entertain any request from a  resident.  MS. BARTOLETTI: It never was either  one or the other.  MR. RINALDI: Right.  MS. BARTOLETTI: I think there's a  little confusion, though. I don't think it  ever was one or the other.  MR. RINALDI: I'm just saying,  depending on what the law is.  (Inaudible crosstalk.)  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: What is one or the  other?  MS. BARTOLETTI: It wasn't, Oh,  there's either going to be a clock or a bus  stop.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Okay.  MS. BARTOLETTI: It may be neither. MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Exactly.  (Inaudible.) I know. You just :  MS. BARTOLETTI: Yeah.    54  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: : a clock. I  understand that completely.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Yeah. It's not one  or the other.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: No. It'11 be  beautiful and all, but $30,000 for something that's all. So, we'17 just move off that. That gentleman wants me to move on and that's  all.  There's one last thing I want to ask  you about. This Emlaw thing that the Borough has brought this gentleman to court and $500 a day he was gonna be fined for not complying with the ordinance, I'd like to know an update  on that if I may.  MR. RINALDI: You'd like to know the  update on the case?  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Yes.  MR. RINALDI: Bill, if you could  give him an update?  ATTY. RINALDI: He filed an appeal  of the Magistrate's decision, the Borough filed a - complaint, sO it has to be heard in the Court  of Common Pleas.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: So, no money has    55  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  been paid now, so it's still in appeal, so is there a date : how can I find the date to this appeal now? When is the new court date, in other words? When is he gonna pay  ATTY. RINALDI: They haven't even  answered the complaint yet.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Oh, he hasn't  answered the complaint? That's right, you had a hard time just handing him the thing before. Okay. So, no money has been : so, the case is  still pending?  ATTY. RINALDI: Right.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Okay. Thank you.  That's all I have, Mr. Rinaldi. Thank you very  much.  MR. RINALDI: Okay. You're very  welcome. Thanks, Rob.  Ann Monacelli. Ann, if you could  just state your name and spell it for the  stenographer.  MS. MONACELLI: Ann Monacelli,  -O-N-A-C-E-L-L-. Well, I see a little progress coming along around the bend. How far  does Mr. C own?  MR. SOKOLOWSKI: Where's this at    56  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  now?  MS. MONACELLI: You know. When  you're coming down Milwaukee around the bend, that's nice and clean there now up to sO far, and then all those logs are still there, and that is not the gas company's problem.  MR. RINALDI: Mrs. Monacelli, are  you talking about in the south and the Main Street between South Milwaukee and the car  wash?  MR. SOKOLOWSKI: Yes. MS. MONACELLI: Yeah.  MR. RINALDI: On the same side as  you but up further, correct?  MS. MONACELLI: Uh-huh.  MR. RINALDI: And you're talking  that there's the logs across from the  veterinarian hospital?  MR. SOKOLOWSKI: Where the trees  fell over.  MR. RINALDI: Right. Okay. You  could come forward. Come on.  MR. SOKOLOWSKI: It's where the  trees fell over.  MS. MONACELLI: The trees, yeah.    57  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MR. RINALDI: You could come  forward. That's okay.  MS. MONACELLI: Another one almost  hit a car that was behind me. You know, insurance companies don't pay for logs that hit cars. Okay. What's the problem? I know :  DPW, he's not here, right?  MR. SOKOLOWSKI: He's not here, no. MS. MONACELLI: Good. I know they  work hard, but this wouldn't be an everyday job. Just pick them up. What's the problem?  MS. BARTOLETTI: They're on private  property.  MS. MONACELLI: Or they don't know  where to put the logs.  MS. BARTOLETTI: They're on private  property, Ann.  (Inaudible crosstalk.)  MS. BARTOLETTI: Ann, it's private  property. They're on private property. Those  logs are on the private property.  MS. MONACELLI: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: That belongs to the  railroad company. That area that's near that bend is part of the railroad property, right?    58  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  Isn't that where we're talking about?  MR. RINALDI: Well, right here MS. SHOTWELL: By the car wash?  Like, this part?  MR. RINALDI: On the map it says UGI  Penn Natural Gas Company.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Okay.  MR. RINALDI: That's one section.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Yep.  MR. RINALDI: The other section is  Mr. Chickey.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Okay.  MR. RINALDI: The other section is,  it says, I could be - I'm only going off of a map, I don't know if it's updated, it belongs to another gentleman. I don't want to say his name publicly because I don't know if it's the correct name, but it's not Borough property.  MS. MONACELLI: So, whose  responsibility is it?  MR. RINALDI: The responsibility of  the property would be of the said owner. Now, we would have to ask Mike to find out if this is the current owner, according to this map that's only online. I ( don't know if it's    59  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  updated, sO I'm not sure.  MR. SOKOLOWSKI: Yeah, we don't know  how accurate it is.  MS. MONACELLI: It's who I think it  is.  MR. RINALDI: Ann, I'm not going to  say the name because I could have the wrong name, so I don't want to say it. That's all.  But we could have Mike contact them  and find out if they are the property owner, and it would be their responsibility to clean it up, and Mike would instruct them that their property has to be cleaned up to the ordinances  and the codes of the Borough.  MS. MONACELLI: I mean, if you  don't : throw them behind my yard, it might  stop somebody :  MR. RINALDI: No, no. They would  have to dispose of them.  MR. SOKOLOWSKI: We can't do that.  It's not up to us.  MR. RINALDI: Ann, we : MS. MONACELLI: I mean, that's a  mess.  (Inaudible crosstalk.)    60  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MR. RINALDI: Ann, legally, we can't  trespass on somebody else's property. Although, we agree, if a property in the Borough is not maintained properly, we have to take the correct legal steps to have it done.  MR. SOKOLOWSKI: But it's not their  property. It's not on the road. When it was on the road and I picked it up that time :  MS. MONACELLI: Yeah.  MR. SOKOLOWSKI: : put it back on  their property.  MS. MONACELLI: So, do you know  whose property that is?  MR. SOKOLOWSKI: I'm not sure  exactly.  MS. MONACELLI: Is it who I think it  is?  MR. SOKOLOWSKI: I'm not sure. We  don't know.  UNKNOWN WOMAN: So, then that's the  next step, to find out.  MR. SOKOLOWSKI: We can't get a  surveyor say, Is this your property? Is this  your property?  MR. RINALDI: The next step is for    61  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  us to find out according to the map and according to tax records who owns the property.  MS. MONACELLI: So, I was in trouble  when I sent my handy man over to clean right across the street so I could see what the cars  are coming down.  And then somebody cleaned it even  nicer, but if they don't know where to throw them, they could throw them behind my yard. I  don't care.  MR. RINALDI: No. Ann, what we'11  do is we'1l have Mr. Sokolowsk1 get in contact with our tax collector, Mr. Propersi, he has the tax maps. He'17 have the map numbers, the pin numbers, and it'17 say who the property  owner is.  MS. MONACELLI: Okay.  MR. SOKOLOWSKI: There's two of them  that are very close together, sO exactly where  the line is, I'm not sure.  MS. MONACELLI: Yeah. What are  those little flags? I think they're orange or  yellow.  MR. RINALDI: The state puts them  down for plowing sO the plow trucks don't hit    62  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  the curbs. Is it the little flags :-  MS. MONACELLI: There's a : MR. RINALDI: : that's stuck in  right by the curb?  MS. MONACELLI: Yeah. I called the  gas company, they said they're not responsible  for that.  MR. RINALDI: No. I think the state  puts those in alongside the curb so the plow trucks know where the distance from the street  to the curb is.  MS. MONACELLI: Oh, I thought they  were going to do something. You see, you  didn't even see them.  MR. SOKOLOWSKI: No.  MS. MONACELLI: Yeah. They're  either orange or yellow. Okay. How about the  house across the street?  MR. SOKOLOWSKI: I'm still working  on that. Ican't find nobody. There's no  relatives, there's nobody left.  went to the tax office and they  were paid two years ago. I think Gary said that it takes two years for it to go into  sheriff's sale.    63  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MR. KOMENSKY: Tax sale. MR. SOKOLOWSKI: Tax sale. MR. RINALDI: Ann, is the house  abandoned?  MR. SOKOLOWSKI: Yes. MR. RINALDI: Is the house  abandoned?  MR. SOKOLOWSKI: Yeah. It's been  condemned.  MS. MONACELLI: My neighbor that  lives close by on that side, he says that somebody's throwing their garbage in front of  that house.  MR. SOKOLOWSKI: I had it taken care  of. I found out who it was.  MS. MONACELLI: I hope it was nobody  on our street.  MR. SOKOLOWSKI: It's a couple  houses down. They did clean it up, though.  MS. MONACELLI: Yeah. So, what, you  can't go to the court and see who owned that?  mean :  MR. SOKOLOWSKI: We have the people  that owned it. They passed away. They died. There's no next of kin, nothing. I can't find,    64  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  I went, who paid the taxes last time, the lady that died, that's what Gary told me.  MR. RINALDI: Mike, excuse me. Ann,  let me ask the solicitor a quick question for you. We have a house down the end of south and the Main Street across from Mrs. Monacelli's, it's condemned. The family members, according to the court, are passed. If it's condemned,  was it condemned by us?  MR. SOKOLOWSKI: There's a sign on  it from Chris.  ATTY. RINALDI: Oh, then Chris  condemned it.  MR. SOKOLOWSKI: That's, like, three  years ago.  MR. RINALDI: So, if it's condemned,  what could the Borough take action in demolishing it?  could the Borough  ATTY. RINALDI: If you can find  somebody to give notice to. I know there's no  estate open, there's nothing.  MR. SOKOLOWSKI: Nothing. ATTY. RINALDI: It's just nothing  there.  MR. SOKOLOWSKI: Nothing. I went to    65  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  Bobby Gillette, the funeral home where the guy died, there's no next of kin. There's nobody  left. That's what he told me.  ATTY. RINALDI: So, just get it on  the tax sale and let the County take care of  it.  MR. SOKOLOWSKI: That's what Gary  said, it's gonna take another year.  MS. BARTOLETTI: It just takes a  little bit of time.  ATTY. RINALDI: Yeah. MR. SOKOLOWSKI: Right.  MR. RINALDI: So, Ann, according to  the tax collector, legally it has to sit on the tax roll abandoned until the taxes become delinquent. Once the taxes are delinquent :  MS. MONACELLI: Is Marie - Marie's  in a nursing home.  MR. SOKOLOWSKI: If you could find  her, please help me. I can't find her. Somebody told me she passed away, also.  MR. HOOVER: Do you know the house? MR. RINALDI: I don't know the exact  house but I know the area. I know it's across  from Mrs. Monacelli's house.    66  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MR. SOKOLOWSKI: 1136.  MR. RINALDI: 1136 is the address? MR. SOKOLOWSKI: Yeah, 1136. And  1138 was the one they tore down, or I have it vice versa. E-Y-T. Irwin was the guy's name.  Marie was the :  MS. MONACELLI: What's the speed  limit on Main Street?  CHIEF DUBERNAS: Thirty-five. MS. MONACELLI: Thirty-five? Okay. CHIEF DUBERNAS: It's high there.  We tried to get it changed, they wouldn't  change it.  MS. MONACELLI: I've seen cars going  down 70 down Main Street. And always going to have all those tractor trailers coming down  Main Street.  MR. RINALDI: Mrs. Monacelli, do you  have problems with you're noticing speeders by your house, people driving too fast?  CHIEF DUBERNAS: Her daughter asked  to see if we could get it changed probably four or five years ago. The state won't change it.  MS. MONACELLI: Someone told me that  small bridge is gonna close next year.    67  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MR. RINALDI: The small bridge? MS. MONACELLI: Not the big bridge. MS. SHOTWELL: The one on : MS. MONACELLI: The one on Lonesome  Road. The small one.  MR. SOKOLOWSKI: Bridge Street. MS. MONACELLI: Yeah. Is that true? CHIEF DUBERNAS: Yeah. They're  going to reservice it.  MS. MONACELLI: Where's the traffic  gonna go?  MR. SOKOLOWSKI: They have a study.  They were here :  MR. KOMENSKY: Yeah, they were here  a ( couple :  CHIEF DUBERNAS: About a year ago.  About a year ago PennDOT was here. The truck traffic is gonna go out Lonesome Road up Moosic Road to Main Street, and then the regular car traffic is either going to use the rest of Lonesome Road to Main Street or Bridge Street.  MS. MONACELLI: Okay. That's it. MR. SOKOLOWSKI: Okay. Thank you. MR. RINALDI: Thanks, Ann. Miranda  Pace.    68  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MS. PACE: -I-R-A-N-D-A, P-A-C-E.  Hey everybody.  MR. RINALDI: Hi, Miranda. Good  evening.  MS. PACE: I'm super happy to be  here. I'm sO glad to hear about Oak Street and Marion. That's actually what I came here to talk about, and you guys already got it done. So, that's awesome. Well, you will when you  vote on it tonight.  So, I just wanted to - I was  following the conversation about that, and I know that you were mentioning about speed signs and painting high visibility crosswalks, sO I just wanted to let you guys know about some  funding.  I don't know if you guys have heard  of ARLE, but it is - it's a PennDOT fund and it's for traffic enforcement, traffic signals, and the opening should be coming up in April, so that might be an opportunity to purchase another sign, if you wanted to do the words, the message board, or if you wanted to do a speed sign. So, that funding is coming up.  And I love to hear that you guys are    69  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  interested in doing the high visibility crosswalks. I wanted to bring up that additional methods of reducing traffic there.  So, you are able to use paint, as  well, which is significantly less costly, and I love that the sight is going to be increasing for that area, but by putting some striped no parking zones within that area, that might help  increase visibility, as well.  For the ARLE funds, you're also able  to apply for those flashing pedestrian beacons. So, - that's something to consider, as well.  Also, I wanted to note, for that  intersection, what is the purpose for the focus on that intersection? I'm just wondering, like, what caused the visibility?  MR. RINALDI: What caused the need  for us to try and make it more safe?  MS. PACE: Yeah.  MR. RINALDI: I mean, I'17 answer  for all of us, I think. If I'm wrong, correct me. I want to say, number one, I mean, it's just pedestrian and traffic in general, but I  think it was the school.  MS. PACE: Yeah.    70  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MR. RINALDI: We have a lot of  children coming and going in the morning, we have buses, we have parents. I mean, we want it to be safe throughout the whole day, but at those really high rush hour times from 7:30 to 8:30 for school going into and then when  they're exiting school.  But we have a lot of children who  cross over there, we have a lot of buses, we have a lot of parents driving, we have a lot of teenagers driving coming from school.  MS. PACE: Yeah.  MR. RINALDI: But still we're trying  to keep that whole area as safe as possible because it's such a hard turn to make and it's always -- I mean, I'm in 01d Forge my whole life, as all of us are, it's always just been a  hard turn.  Plus, there's a lot of cars who  travel pretty fast in that area. When you're coming up that way, it's a big straigntaway, sO the history of people have tend to just :  MS. PACE: Yeah.  MR. RINALDI: They think they're  racing there.    71  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MS. PACE: Yeah. So, are you  saying, like, when people come off Keyser down Oak, they increase their speed? Is, like, that the direction? Or just from both ways?  MR. RINALDI: I would say both ways,  but I think going towards Main Street, because it's so hard to see coming out from Marion, if you're looking to the left. Even if you're trying to turn to the right, it's still  difficult.  MS. PACE: Yeah.  MR. RINALDI: You know? I mean,  that's just my personal driving experience there, but I think in general, I think that's just : that would be the take for everybody driving there. I mean, it's just, it's a  pretty dangerous intersection.  MS. PACE: Yeah. So, it sounds like  a goal that you guys would have would be to reduce speed where people start to speed up. So, like, at the beginning of that straightaway  leading up :  MR. RINALDI: Well, that's why we  put that message board there a few weeks ago, two weeks ago, and the Chief and our street    72  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  commissioner went down and they said to put it a little bit further sO the people could see it a little bit sooner before you come right onto that intersection sO you start to gradually slow down maybe an extra 100 feet before that  crosswalk.  MS. PACE: Yeah.  MR. RINALDI: Now, I'm not sure, and  I'm sorry if I interrupted you.  MS. PACE: No, that's fine.  MR. RINALDI: We had a traffic study  done over there. We were trying to get a street light there, and Councilman Notari said tonight, I don't know if you heard him, we're not happy with the way the study came back, because we wanted the street light there.  We figured a street light would be  the best solution, but according to the traffic study, they didn't feel that that was the best  solution.  So, now we're trying to take  whatever steps we could, like you just said and like we've been mentioning tonight, painting the crosswalks, maybe getting another  pedestrian crossing sign, maybe getting one of    73  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  those, or two of those mobile speed limit signs where it shows your speed as you're traveling, it tells you at what speed you should be traveling, there's flashing lights.  Just something to bring more  awareness and more attention, not only to the intersection but just to regular traffic, you know, every minute going up and down.  MS. PACE: Yeah.  MR. HOOVER: And we originally  thought that it's such a busy intersection and it's a PennDOT road, well PennDOT will do it. Well, we found out that they're not doing  nothing.  MS. PACE: Yeah.  MR. HOOVER: It's all our  respons1Dillty.  MS. BARTOLETTI: I know you've been  coming to our meetings, but two weeks ago we had representatives from PennDOT come   MR. RINALDI: Yeah, they were here. MS. BARTOLETTI: : and actually  give a presentation and go through a lot of it with us, and they were like pretty much that we were on our own with it because they didn't    74  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  feel like it warranted a traffic signal there.  So, we did our own study.  MS. PACE: Yeah. Awesome. Is that  study available? Are we able to see that, or  is that just for you guys?  MS. BARTOLETTI: I think we could  give a copy of that out.  MR. RINALDI: No, no, it's public  record. You could get a copy of that, yeah.  MS. PACE: Awesome.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Maybe tomorrow? MS. PACE: Yeah. Awesome. So : MR. LOPATKA: Marylynn, she could  have my copy.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Oh, okay. There  you go.  MS. PACE: Thank you. Awesome. I  love reading plans. So, something additional that could be done to slow traffic down, like you guys were saying, visibility is the biggest thing for pedestrians, and there are multiple crosswalks along that section, so I think if we were able to paint more high visibility crosswalks as part of that whole project, it can look at the area more holistically instead    75  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  of just focusing on this one intersection and bringing it down more sO that speeders are encouraged to slow down where they speed up.  So, things like that could all be  applied through the ARLE program, but also Safe Routes to Schools has a legacy fund that is currently operated through PennDOT, and they have over 13 million in unspent funds. So, that might be an option, as well.  k know you said that PennDOT was  here, maybe you guys have some connections where you could talk about the Safe Routes to Schools legacy funds. That might be a good way to also build relationships with Safe Routes to  Schools. They're really helpful in understanding how to, like, implement pedestrian safety measures.  MR. HOOVER: That was a school  legacy fund?  MS. PACE: Safe Routes to Schools  legacy funds.  MR. RINALDI: If you don't mind me  asking you, what's your profession? You seem  to know a lot about this.  MS. PACE: Yeah. I work in    76  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  community development.  MR. RINALDI: Okay. MS. PACE: In west -- (Inaudible crosstalk.) MS. BARTOLETTI: You have her  resume.  MS. PACE: Oh, yeah.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Because you had  sent your resume and I sent it out to all you  guys, so it's in your e-mail.  MR. RINALDI: Okay.  MS. PACE: I ( offered to volunteer  however I can.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Yeah.  MR. RINALDI: Okay. I : appreciate  that.  MS. PACE: So, the next thing I  wanted to ask about was I was wondering if the municipality has any funds for demolition, if  that's, like, part of your budget?  MS. BARTOLETTI: We don't have  anything budgeted, no.  MS. PACE: Okay. So, there's a  property that looks like it was probably condemned due to a fire on Oak and Disamore.    77  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  (phonetic) Drive.  CHIEF DUBERNAS: Disimome. MS. PACE: Disimome.  MS. BARTOLETTI: That's part of a  lawsuit right now.  MS. PACE: Oh.  MS. BARTOLETTI: So we can't touch  it.  MR. SOKOLOWSKI: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Mike is very up on  that. The owner of that property also owns the building next to it, and I guess there's a very large problem right now with the insurance company and it's in litigation right now.  MS. PACE: Okay. Yeah. I was going  to ask if you guys looked into the : if there were any Act 92 funds for the insurance and fire money, but it sounds like ya'11 are  already working on that.  Yeah. I think that's all. Thanks  guys.  MR. RINALDI: Thanks, Miranda. I  appreciate it.  MS. PACE: Thank you very much. MR. RINALDI: Have a good evening.    78  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MS. PACE: And thank you guys for  doing what you do. I know it takes a lot to be able to try to keep the town working and all  that. So, good job guys.  ALL MEMBERS: Thank you. MR. RINALDI: Thank you. I  appreciate that, as well. Fran Vutnoski. Did  p pronounce that right, dear?  MS. VUTNOSKI: Yes, you did. MR. RINALDI: Okay.  MS. VUTNOSKI: V-U-T-N-0-S-K-1.  Good evening, Council.  MR. RINALDI: Good evening.  MS. VUTNOSKI: This is my first time  here. My husband and I purchased a home here two and a half years ago, and I want to say we love 01d Forge. And if anybody knows Scranton, we lived there 48 years, sO now you know why we  love 01d Forge.  We picked a wonderful street, Edith  Street, and I will say, I think the whole town itself is really - I love it. I absolutely  love it.  wanted to be here 20 years ago, it  didn't work out, sO : but there is a couple    79  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  things I do want to say, like, fresh eyes. I do want to say that, I don't know if I'11  pronounce this right, Lenape.  MR. RINALDI: Lenape.  MS. VUTNOSKI: Lenape. Okay. That  street there has got little woods there, okay? Well, I noticed that there's a lot of garbage being thrown there. There's even beer cans  there.  And I know the DPW does an excellent  job. I - have to commend them. They're very, very good at what they do, and also the recycling. I mean, I had three cans out there today of recycling and they take it. I mean, they don't drop a thing and they're wonderful.  And picking up the twigs and that in  the summer from the spring all the way through is like, I love it. But I'd like to see Lenape  cleaned up.  And there's another place over by  the donut shop, also, in front of it, it's kind of very dirty there, and it's on a main street, sO it doesn't look good for the town.  And there's one other thing that's  really : I - didn't know I was going to have    80  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  this a few inches to a foot from my property line in my back yard, but I'd like the permission of the Council members to have the zoning officer come to my property and see where this humongous RV is parked.  Now, the few neighbors that I've  talked to, I have an elderly woman here, a young couple here, they're fairly new, and a few people in the back that I've talked to, they've said that that RV is parked there ten  years. Ten.  MR. SOKOLOWSKI: I was there : CHIEF DUBERNAS: Where is it at? MR. SOKOLOWSKI: I - don't want to  interrupt you. It's on George Street.  MS. VUTNOSKI: It's on George  Street, but their back yard touches my back yard, and it's like here's their RV and here's my property, and I have to look at this mess  every day.  MR. RINALDI: Fran, quick question,  not to interrupt you, but I have to just sO I could understand. First of all, is the RV on  your property, do you think?  MS. VUTNOSKI: No. It's on their    81  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  property.  MR. RINALDI: Okay. So you know  it's on their property. Okay.  MS. VUTNOSKI: Because there's,  like : the person that used to own my home, I don't know if you know him or not, Mike Manzo.  MR. RINALDI: Yes.  MS. VUTNOSKI: Mr. Manzo. Wonderful  man. Is still talk to him. Well, that's the home that we purchased. It's a small home, very, very nice, and he's a wonderful person, but we have, like, two pipes, and that's, like, the property, where the property ends.  So, this RV is, like -- I didn't  measure it, because I hate going down there. I will say the most it is from my property line  is one foot.  Their property is a mess. They had  their back porch ripped off, part of the ceiling. The whole property is a mess. And when I first moved in, and I used to go down to my back yard, I'd say to my husband all the time, there's an awful funny smell there.  Now, it's not recreational marijuana  or medical marijuana. I think most people have    82  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  smelled that. It's not that. It's what I would refer to as years ago when we were, some of us were kids, not looking at you, Chief, the smell of, like, airplane glue, you know, like a  paint smell, like, a very odd smell.  a asked the neighbor lady and she  said to me, this is hearsay for you people, but she said to me there was a lot of maybe illegal things going on in that RV at one time. I can't say for sure now, I don't know, because I  try to avoid going down there.  t thought about putting a big fence  there, but then I don't know if I'm allowed. It's still going to be sickening, you know? And I'd just like you to just come and look at  it.  MR. SOKOLOWSKI: To be honest with  you, I've been there a while back, I know exactly where you mean. We've had trouble with  the people before.  MS. VUTNOSKI: People come to my  house and stop and say, Oh, is your RV for sale? I go, It's not mine. But if I could  sell it, I would.  MR. RINALDI: Fran, we'11 send the    83  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  zoning officer back down.  MR. SOKOLOWSKI: Yeah. I know the  people, we've had trouble with them before.  MS. VUTNOSKI: I would really  appreciate that. And I know this is hearsay, also, but I have also been said : a neighbor said to me the family that I'm speaking about,  the police know who they are.  MR. SOKOLOWSKI: We've been there  many times.  MS. VUTNOSKI: George Street, yeah. MR. HOOVER: What's the address  there?  MR. NOTARI: 631.  MS. VUTNOSKI: I'm on Edith; they're  on George.  MR. NOTARI: 631 George. (Inaudible crosstalk.)  MS. VUTNOSKI: And it's bad. And  they have two dogs, and they're pit bulls, and  I'm not saying, because my son and  daughter-in-law have a pit bull and they're a wonderful dog, but I yelled at the man one day  because he was beating the dog.  IV went outside, my husband, my son    84  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  was in the house, and they heard me. I yelled at him. I just screamed at the top of my lungs, Stop hurting that dog. And he turned around and he said to me, It's my property. I said, I don't care. Shut up. Stop hurting the  dog. I'm calling the police.  But in the meantime, I didn't call  the police because I thought, Well, just let it go. Try to mind your own business. But I put up with the dog crying all summer, two of them crying. They leave them out from 8 in the  morning until 9, 10 at night.  Now there's neighbors next door to  them, and I think those people are gonna get a dose of the medicine, too, because I've had it up to here. And if you could come out, I would  love that.  MR. SOKOLOWSKI: Yeah.  MR. RINALDI: Yeah. We'11 send him  out, Fran.  MS. VUTNOSKI: I would really love  it. I appreciate it very much. I want to say thank you very much for listening to me. I know it's a very tough job that you have, you know, working on Council trying to figure out    85  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  everybody's problems, but I would appreciate it. Like I said, I love the town. I have to compliment everything that I see here.  MR. RINALDI: Well, thank you. We  appreciate that.  MS. VUTNOSKI: And everybody, all  the small ousinesses, too, like the game store, the candy store, we've been in them, the people are sO nice, the T-shirt shop, everybody's sO  nice. Thank you very much.  MR. RINALDI: Thanks for the nice  comments.  ALL MEMBERS: Thank you.  MR. SOKOLOWSKI: I just want to let  you know that the guys are on spring cleanup. They're making their ways around, and I will  tell them.  MS. VUTNOSKI: Yeah. Well, they're  always over there. This has gotten very bad  lately.  MS. BARTOLETTI: I wanted to just  add in that Lenape Street, the portion that needs to be cleaned, it actually belongs to the  County.  MR. RINALDI: Right.    86  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MS. BARTOLETTI: So, every day with  the County, we have to call them and advise  them :  (Inaudible crosstalk.)  MR. SOKOLOWSKI: That is the County. MS. BARTOLETTI: So, that strip is  the County, sO I'17 make sure that we give them  a call and let them know.  MS. VUTNOSKI: It doesn't belong to  01d Forge?  MR. RINALDI: No. That belongs to  the housing that's over the hill.  (Inaudible crosstalk.)  MS. BARTOLETTI: It's just on the  other side of the house.  MS. VUTNOSKI: Oh, okay.  MS. BARTOLETTI: So, that's part of  their property.  MS. VUTNOSKI: Well, somebody must  be having little parties there or something.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Yeah.  MS. VUTNOSKI: And I have to say one  more thing, you got to keep it clean. I have,  like, five deer come in the yard.  MR. RINALDI: But the County, we    87  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  call them, they come down, they cut the shrubs back, you know, in spring, they come and clean  it.  MS. VUTNOSKI: (Inaudible  crosstalk.)  MR. RINALDI: Yeah, they keep up on  it. We just have to call them and tell them. Whenever we call them, they come down within a  day or two.  MS. VUTNOSKI: I know. They're  terrific. My neighbor had, there was kind of a little hole or something in front of her house there, and she mentioned it to me, and I said, Well, they'11 fix it. Well, she called. They were there right then. They fixed it, boom, boom, boom. I said, Wow. It's not like that  in Scranton. Thank you very much.  ALL MEMBERS: Thanks.  MR. NOTARI: Chief, when Mike goes  to that property, would you go with him or send an officer with him maybe to check some things  out?  CHIEF DUBERNAS: Yeah. We're very  familiar.  MR. NOTARI: Yeah. Keep Mike safe,    88  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  too.  MR. SOKOLOWSKI: Yeah. It is scary  down there.  MR. RINALDI: If there's no other  members from the public that would like to speak, we'1l move into new business.  Okay. First item under new business  is an ordinance to adopt the International  Property Code for the Borough.  At this time the Chair is going to  entertain a motion to approve an ordinance adopting the International Property Maintenance Code in the Borough of 01d Forge as the property maintenance code for the Borough of 01d Forge for regulating and governing the conditions of maintenance of all property, buildings and structures for the health, safety, general welfare, convenience, comfort and safety for the residents of the Borough of  01d Forge.  MR. HOOVER: I'11 make that motion. MR. RINALDI: Motion on the floor by  Councilman Hoover.  MR. NOTARI: Second.  MR. RINALDI: Second by Councilman    89  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  Notari. On the question?  (No response.)  MR. RINALDI: Public input?  (No response.)  MR. RINALDI: Roll call, please. MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilwoman  Shotwe11?  MS. SHOTWELL: Yes. MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman  Komensky?  MR. KOMENSKY: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Notari?  MR. NOTARI: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Hoover?  MR. HOOVER: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Rinaldi? MR. RINALDI: Yes. Second item  under new business is going to be a motion to approve an ordinance establishing no parking on the south side of the 400 block of Oak Street for a distance of 90 feet from the intersection of Marion Street in the Borough of 01d Forge.  MR. NOTARI: I'17 make that motion,  Mr. Chairman.  MR. RINALDI: Motion on the floor by    90  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  Councilman Notari.  MS. SHOTWELL: I'11 second.  MR. RINALDI: Second by Councilwoman  Jones Shotwell. On the question?  (No response.)  MR. RINALDI: Public input?  (No response.)  MR. RINALDI: Roll call, please. MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilwoman  Shotwel1?  MS. SHOTWELL: Yes. MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman  Komensky?  MR. KOMENSKY: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Notari?  MR. NOTARI: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Hoover?  MR. HOOVER: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Rinaldi? MR. RINALDI: Yes. Third item, the  Chair's going to entertain a motion to approve an ordinance establishing no parking on the west side of the 100 block of Marion Street for a distance of 50 feet from the intersection of Sussex Street in the Borough of 01d Forge.    91  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MR. NOTARI: I'11 make that motion,  Mr. Chairman.  MR. RINALDI: Motion on the floor by  Councilman Notari.  MS. SHOTWELL: I'11 second.  MR. RINALDI: Second by Councilwoman  Jones Shotwell. On the question?  (No response.)  MR. RINALDI: Public input?  (No response.)  MR. RINALDI: Roll call, please. MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilwoman  Shotwe11?  MS. SHOTWELL: Yes. MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman  Komensky?  MR. KOMENSKY: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Notari?  MR. NOTARI: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Hoover?  MR. HOOVER: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Rinaldi? MR. RINALDI: Yes. Fourth item, the  Chair would entertain a motion to approve a resolution authorizing the purchase of a    92  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  vehicle by the Borough of 01d Forge for use by the zoning department. The price of the  vehicle is $48,987.  MR. HOOVER: I'11 make that motion. MR. RINALDI: Motion on the floor by  Councilman Hoover.  MR. NOTARI: Second.  MR. RINALDI: Second by Councilman  Notari. On the question?  (No response.)  MR. RINALDI: Public input?  (No response.)  MR. RINALDI: Roll call, please. MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilwoman  Shotwell?  MS. SHOTWELL: Yes. MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman  Komensky?  MR. KOMENSKY: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Notari?  MR. NOTARI: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Hoover?  MR. HOOVER: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Rinaldi? MR. RINALDI: Yes. Item number    93  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  five, the Chair's going to entertain a motion to approve a resolution for the appointment of a member to the Zoning Board for the Borough of 01d Forge in Lackawanna County, ennsylvania.  MR. NOTARI: Mr. Chairman, I'd like  to make a motion to name Mark Palma to the Zoning Board. He's currently an alternate to that board and I would like to see him elevated  to the position.  MR. RINALDI: Motion on the floor by  Councilman Notari naming Mark Palma to the vacancy to the 01d Forge Zoning Board.  MR. HOOVER: I'17 second that. MR. RINALDI: Second by Councilman  Hoover. On the question?  (No response.)  MR. RINALDI: Public input?  (No response.)  MR. RINALDI: Roll call, please. MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilwoman  Shotwell?  MS. SHOTWELL: Yes. MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman  Komensky?  MR. KOMENSKY: Yes.    94  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MS. - BARTOLETTI: Councilman Notari?  MR. NOTARI: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Hoover?  MR. HOOVER: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Rinaldi? MR. RINALDI: Yes. Sixth item under  new business, the Chair's going to entertain a motion to approve the fee agreement with Cohen  Law for work on the renewal of the Comcast/Xfinity cable agreement. Attorney  Rinaldi, the price is $7,760?  ATTY. RINALDI: Seven thousand -- I  think it was : wait a second. Was it 620?  Where did I put it? Sorry.  MR. RINALDI: No. Take your time. ATTY. RINALDI: Let me find the  e-mail.  MS. BARTOLETTI: $7,760. ATTY. RINALDI: Yeah, that's it.  7,760.  MR. NOTARI: I'17 make a motion. MR. RINALDI: Motion on the floor by  Councilman Notari.  MR. KOMENSKY: I'11 second. MR. RINALDI: Second by Councilman    95  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  Komensky. On the question?  (No response.)  MR. RINALDI: Public input?  (No response.)  MR. RINALDI: Roll call, please. MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilwoman  Shotwell?  MS. SHOTWELL: Yes. MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman  Komensky?  MR. KOMENSKY: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Notari?  MR. NOTARI: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Hoover?  MR. HOOVER: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Rinaldi? MR. RINALDI: Yes. Seventh item  under new business, the Chair is going to entertain a motion to accept the resignation of full-time police officer Dalton Boback.  MR. KOMENSKY: I'11 make that  motion.  MR. RINALDI: Motion on the floor by  Councilman Komensky.  MR. HOOVER: I'11 second it.    96  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MR. RINALDI: Second by Councilman  Hoover. On the question? Chief, Mr. Boback, he's going to continue as a part-time police  officer?  CHIEF DUBERNAS: Part time. MR. RINALDI: Okay. On the  question?  MR. NOTARI: Can I vote no? What if  we don't accept his resignation?  MR. RINALDI: I wouldn't like to  either but it's at his request, sO I understand  where you're coming from.  CHIEF DUBERNAS: I second that. MR. RINALDI: On the question?  (No response.)  MR. RINALDI: Public input?  (No response.)  MR. RINALDI: Roll call, please. MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilwoman  Shotwel1?  MS. SHOTWELL: Regretfully, yes. MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman  Komensky?  MR. KOMENSKY: Regretfully, yes. MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Notari?    97  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MR. NOTARI: Yes, with regret. MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Hoover? MR. HOOVER: Same. Yes, with  regret.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Rinaldi? MR. RINALDI: Regretfully, yes.  Next item under new business is to award the contract to the low bidder for the Josephine Street project. Marylynn, if you want to take  us through it real quick?  MS. BARTOLETTI: Okay. So, the low  bidder is Lindy Corporation, and the amount of  their bid is $41,215.  MR. RINALDI: The chair's going to  entertain a motion to approve the Josephine  Street project.  MR. HOOVER: Mare, who was the  second bidder?  MS. BARTOLETTI: Second is Sikora  Brothers.  MR. HOOVER: Sikora? A17 right. MS. BARTOLETTI: And Sikora  Brothers, their bid price was $57,408.  MR. RINALDI: The Chair's going to  entertain a motion to approve the Josephine    98  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  Street project to Lindy. They were the lowest  bidder, and the amount was $41,215.  MR. HOOVER: I'11 make that motion. MR. RINALDI: Motion on the floor by  Councilman Hoover.  MS. - SHOTWELL: I'11 second.  MR. RINALDI: Second by Councilwoman  Jones Shotwell. On the question?  (No response.)  MR. RINALDI: Public input?  (No response.)  MR. RINALDI: Roll call, please. MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilwoman  Shotwell?  MS. SHOTWELL: Yes. MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman  Komensky?  MR. KOMENSKY: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Notari?  MR. NOTARI: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Hoover?  MR. HOOVER: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Rinaldi? MR. RINALDI: Yes. If there's no  items for new business by any of the members,    99  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  the Chair will go down the table and see if anyone has anything before we adjourn. Major  Legg?  MAYOR LEGG: Thank you,  Mr. Chairman. I have nothing.  MR. RINALDI: You're welcome. Thank  you, Mayor. Councilwoman Jones Shotwell?  MS. SHOTWELL: I have nothing.  Thank you.  MR. RINALDI: You're welcome.  Councilman Komensky?  MR. KOMENSKY: Nothing at the  current time.  MR. RINALDI: Councilman Notari? MR. NOTARI: Mr. Chairman, I would  like to congratulate Bob Beviglia, an 01d Forge native. He's the girls' basketball coach at Scranton Prep and tonight he led his team to a victory, and they will play for the state  championsh1p on Saturday.  The Beviglias are Tong-time friends  and good family that we've had here in 01d Forge and nobody deserves it more than Bobby, and he does a good job and he works hard. So, I'd just like to acknowledge him tonight.    100  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  Thank you.  MR. RINALDI: You're welcome. It  was a good statement. Good luck to Mr. Beviglia and the Scranton Prep girls.  Councilman Hoover?  MR. HOOVER: Yeah. Two things. The  first thing is tar sealing, Dave. Miridgy (phonetic) does tar sealing on :  MR. RINALDI: Crack sealing. MR. HOOVER: Crack sealing? MR. LOPATKA: Oh, yeah.  MR. HOOVER: Can we get the bidder  that does the paving to do that, add that to our paving, or not? Do you think they -  MR. LOPATKA: I don't know if : MR. HOOVER: They do it?  MR. LOPATKA: See, a lot of those  bigger paving companies don't do the sealing.  MR. HOOVER: Yeah. They just tar  the edge of the roads.  MR. LOPATKA: They just tar the  edges, they don't :  MR. HOOVER: Curb lines.  MR. LOPATKA: : do seal coating. MR. HOOVER: A11 right. Can you    101  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  call a couple of people and find out, get a  couple prices?  MR. LOPATKA: Sure.  MR. HOOVER: Because I'm hearing two  different ways they :  MR. LOPATKA: For?  MR. HOOVER: For doing some tar  sealing on some roads, crack sealing :  MR. LOPATKA: Okay.  MR. HOOVER: : on some roads.  Joe's got a list of roads that he asked about in our paving meeting last week and we'd like  to get that going.  MR. LOPATKA: So, you're looking  for, like :  MR. HOOVER: Joe said he's got about  15 streets that he can do.  MR. RINALDI: I don't want to cut  Councilman Hoover off, but we discussed it a  few years ago :  MR. LOPATKA: Yeah.  MR. RINALDI: : many members  brought it up, but Councilman Hoover is Chairman of our paving committee, and in the meeting last week, though, we discussed, and he    102  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  brought it up, I think what he's looking for is a maintenance program, not just a one-time thing. We're looking to do it yearly, every  year :  MR. HOOVER: Even a couple times a  year. Like, how do they bill it? Is it per  street? Is it per :  MR. RINALDI: Per hour, per : MR. HOOVER: : hour? I - don't know. MR. LOPATKA: Let me find that out. MR. HOOVER: Find that out. MR. LOPATKA: Yeah. I'm assuming  either by square foot or whatever.  MR. HOOVER: Yeah. I C don't know how  they bill it.  MR. LOPATKA: I'17 figure it out.  I'17 call them.  MR. HOOVER: Yeah.  MR. RINALDI: Well, like Councilman  Hoover said, we got two answers last week, Joe had two answers from two different contractors, they said they bill it by the amount of supply  they use :  MR. HOOVER: Or by the day. MR. RINALDI: : and then they bill    103  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  it by the day, sO :  MR. LOPATKA: Well, yeah. I mean,  naturally for most of them, quantity, you're going to get a lower price, typically.  MR. RINALDI: Correct. But since we  got two different answers to one question, it was --IV was a little confused myself.  MR. HOOVER: Yeah.  MR. LOPATKA: Yeah. Let me see. MR. HOOVER: If you would please get  me a price on that.  MR. LOPATKA: A11 right.  MR. HOOVER: And the second thing  is  MR. LOPATKA: Now, are you looking  for just crack sealing or are you :-  MR. HOOVER: Crack sealing.  MR. LOPATKA:  looking for the  seal coat :-  MR. HOOVER: No. Just crack  sealing.  MR. LOPATKA: Just crack sealing.  Okay.  MR. HOOVER: The second thing is I  was down at the DPW building the other day with    104  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  Joe, he asked me to go down and look at some things, and I asked Marylynn, the building was built in 1997, sO it's 27 years old, and we've gotten some newer vehicles in the past few years, we have a new leaf truck coming, we've gotten some one-ton dump trucks that are in pretty good condition, we still have the packers that we have, they're running out of parking space down there, rooms, room for these  trucks.  And if you look at the back of the  building, from the salt, it's kind of eaten away at the aluminium on the back of the  building in two spots.  It think we have to think about doing  some work down there at the DPW building, whether it's putting a little addition on the  back or something.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Possibly moving the  salt shed.  MR. HOOVER: Yeah. We have to get  the salt shed away from the building, because that's, it's eating the whole side of the back  of the building away.  If we put the salt shed on the other    105  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  side where they use the packer for the recyclables, if we put it over there and cover it all by itself, but I think we do have to : we have to start looking into seeing what we could do maybe to get some grants to do some work down there to that building, maybe put an  addition on the back.  Mike had a suggestion of putting an  addition on the back, maybe about 40 feet, but Idon't know how much property we own on the back of the side. We'd have to get it surveyed first, Dave, to see what we own. But in the back of the building it seems to be the more  reasonable place to go.  MR. LOPATKA: Do you want me to get  a - survey?  MR. HOOVER: Yeah. Get it surveyed  and maybe extend the bid :  MS. BARTOLETTI: There's plans. ATTY. RINALDI: There's a recorded  plan.  MR. HOOVER: Oh, is there? ATTY. RINALDI: Yeah.  MR. HOOVER: Okay. Good. Well, I'd  like to just start to get the ball rolling and    106  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  do something with this building.  MR. LOPATKA: You said there's a  recorded :  ATTY. RINALDI: When they built the  building, there was a subdivision and a  recorded plan.  MR. LOPATKA: Oh. Yeah. Maybe you  don't need a survey. We could probably look at  that :  MR. HOOVER: Yeah. That'11 be  perfect.  MR. LOPATKA: : and determine where  the corners would be.  MR. HOOVER: Uh-huh. But I'd like  to get the ball rolling on this before the  winter comes.  MR. NOTARI: It's still here. MR. RINALDI: Any other items? MR. HOOVER: No. That's it. That's  all I have. Thank you.  MR. RINALDI: I don't have any other  items. I would just ask that Council stay for a brief executive just for a few minutes after  we adjourn.  At the time, the Chair would    107  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  entertain a motion to adjourn the meeting.  MR. NOTARI: I'11 make that motion,  Mr. Chairman.  MR. RINALDI: Motion on the floor by  Councilman Notari. A17 in favor?  ALL MEMBERS: Aye.  MR. RINALDI: Good night everyone.  Thank you for coming.  (Meeting adjourned.)    108  1 2 3 4  CERIIFICATE  h hereby certify that the proceedings and evidence are contained fully and accurately in the 5 notes taken by me of the above-cause and that this copy 6 is a correct transcript of the same to the best of my  7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23  ability.  Michelle'Smolskis Official Court Reporter  ORIGINAL  (The foregoing certificate of this transcript does not 24 apply to any reproduction of the same by any means unless under the direct control and/or supervision of  25 the certifying reporter.)