1  1 2 3 4  OLD FORGE BOROUGH COUNCIL OLD FORGE, PENNSYLVANIA  5 IN RE: COUNCIL WORK SESSION  6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19  JUNE 6, 2023 7:10 P.M.  OLD FORGE MUNICIPAL BUILDING 314 SOUTH MAIN STREET OLD FORGE, PENNSYLVANIA  COUNCIL MEMBERS:  20 RUSSELL RINALDI, PRESIDENT  LOUIS FEBBO JAMES HOOVER ANDREW BUTLER ROBERT LEGG, MAYOR  21 22 23 24 25  MARYLYNN BARTOLETTI, BOROUGH MANAGER  Mark Wozniak Official Court Reporter    2  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: We're going to  move into our work session. The purpose of tonight's meeting will be to set the agenda for our regular borough meeting, which will be Tuesday, June 20, 2023. We'17 go down the table, hear from our mayor and our council members and our borough manager if they have anything for the meeting. We'17 hear from our department heads, see if they have anything for the agenda or for their reports. There's a public sign-in sheet the chief has. If anyone from the public would like to address us at the end of the meeting  we'11 give you a few moments.  We'11 move into our first department  head, DPW Manager Joe Lenceski. Joe, anything for the upcoming meeting?  MR. LENCESKI: Nothing for the  agenda.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Does anybody  have any questions for Joe?  MR. BUTLER: Joe, that lady I was  telling you about with the bamboo thing. There's two trees there that are, like, leaning on her fence that she wants cut    3  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  down. Can we cut them down?  MR. LENCESKI: Depends if it's her  property.  MR. BUTLER: Where they're at it  looks like our property with the guy's fence next to her. It's a little farther this way from the trees. But that whole strip there by my house that goes down, where Joe McAndrew used to live, that's where the  trees are.  MR. LENCESKI: Can you meet me  tomorrow and show me?  MR. BUTLER: Yeah, come down  tomorrow morning.  MR. LENCESKI: Okay.  MR. BUTLER: I know two of them fell  from the big storm we had. We probably got  rid of most of it.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Anybody else  have any questions for Joe? Thank you, Joe.  Mike SOkolowsk1, code enforcement/  zoning officer, anything for the upcoming  meeting?  MR. SOKOLOWSKI: I have nothing, no. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Anybody have    4  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  any questions for Mike?  MR. FEBBO: Where are we at with  Moosic Road, with the fencing down there? It's my understanding we got a letter from conservation, Jerry Styles, saying that he's still not in compliance. Is it true or not that those barriers he has outside are  illegal?  MR. SOKOLOWSKI: They're six foot  in. From what I understand they're past the  safety - they're far enough in.  MR. HOOVER: State right-of-way. MR. SOKOLOWSKI: They are off the  right-of-way, sO I'm not sure that :  MR. LOPATKA: They're not in the  right-of-way. If they were in the right-of-way PennDOT will get involved.  MR. SOKOLOWSKI: They're in far  enough.  MR. FEBBO: Are they legal? What  about the water runoff situation back there? IV was talking to Vince Piccolini today. The conservation and waterways is supposed to get back to us. I don't know if they did.  MR. LOPATKA: They did another    5  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  inspection report. Again, they're take on it was very similar to what mine was. They need to get it stabilized. The work that they did, they need to topsoil and seed it sO that all the areas around the outside of the property are stabilized. Currently they're not. They didn't really do anything that I saw even just driving by, sO I'm not  sure where it's at.  Now, the last time I talked to the  guy, which is about two weeks ago, again, they were supposed to be putting together a land development plan and come to the planning commission but they haven't done  that.  MR. SOKOLOWSKI: We're still waiting  on that.  MR. FEBBO: He's opened up. He did  have a permit for occupancy for the building but nothing else. Again, he's not in compliance with the land management, he has no permits. He's doing nothing in terms of getting you what you need. It's almost like he's saying don't bother me. I'm not going to do it. I'm going to do it my way.    6  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MR. LOPATKA: They should be coming  with a land development.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: My question is  if he opened up without a permit, without an occupancy permit, he didn't come to any meetings like we asked him, he didn't bring  no :  MR. LOPATKA: They did come to one  meeting.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: He didn't come  to the last meeting.  MR. LOPATKA: They didn't come to a  meeting with any plans.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: He still  didn't bring any plans. So there's five things he still didn't do. Why aren't we down there, give a cease and desist order? That's it. Tell him you can't go any  further. You're closed.  MR. HOOVER: They get rain in back  of that property and it goes in that pool they're going to sue the borough.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Mike or  Marylynn, contact Bill tomorrow. If we can take -- I don't want to say legal action,    7  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  but if we can take the action of sending our zoning officer down there to cease and desist, shut him down, I'd say send him  right down.  My other question is did he ever  file for a change of use?  MR. LOPATKA: I have no idea. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Now, I know  you weren't here when he opened. Joe Supulski is handling it. Correct? Because we were in the transition of zoning officers. But it went from a car lot to a fence company. That's a complete change of use. Can we contact Joe and see if he -- I don't know if he filed a change of use.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Tomorrow with Joe  Supulski and Jerry Styles.  MR. LOPATKA: I - talked to him. He  won't issue a letter of adequacy for the plan because they never submitted a plan. So he can't approve something that was never submitted. So all he can do is do an  inspection report.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Well, then, on  those grounds right there he should have a    8  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  cease and desist order.  MR. FEBBO: This has the same  indications as the Stocky deal. This is why  we had troubled with Stocky.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: This is how it  starts out, small.  MR. LOPATKA: I spoke to their  engineer when I met with them.  MR. HOOVER: Who told him he can  open?  MR. LOPATKA: I have no idea.  That's not me.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Let's contact  Joe Supulski tomorrow, let's get in touch with Jerry Styles, and let's also get in touch with Bill, see if we can take action to send you down there, which I would Tike  to do.  MR. SOKOLOWSKI: That would be up to  Bill to tell me how to do this.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Have a cease  and desist until he gets us the right paperwork and the right permit.  MR. HOOVER: That shed over on Dunn  Avenue?    9  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MR. SOKOLOWSKI: I was there. I  gave him a written warning. I didn't hear back from him yet. It's right on the road.  MR. BUTLER: Like three feet, maybe.  But according to Chris, that he was waiting until the weather broke to move the shed. He was going to move the shed. He was in agreement of moving the shed but he never : and the weather broke 150 times already.  MR. FEBBO: And he didn't get no  permits. Now, what about your situation?  MR. BUTLER: We were talking about  it yesterday. They contacted me again today. They know the guy's name, they know his address, they know everything. How he got it I don't know. Now, they told me today they gave it to : they said to Rinaldi. I don't know if it was Russell or Bill. But they have the guy's name,  address, everything.  MR. SOKOLOWSKI: I have his name.  Steve Miller.  MR. BUTLER: I don't know if their  attorney got information for them or where they got it. They contacted me today. They    10  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  were supposed to be here tonight, they're not here. I don't know what happened to  them.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: I think he's  speaking about Bill, because I remember a year or two back Bill was in contact with one of the attorneys for that property.  MS. BARTOLETTI: I spoke to Bill  about it again today and asked him to : well, yesterday. But I asked him to please try and figure out where the contact is because Mike has been struggling trying to  find :  MR. BUTLER: It must have been Bill. MR. FEBBO: Didn't we know the  owner?  MR. SOKOLOWSKI: We knew the owner,  yes, but we didn't have an address, no phone number. A17 the taxes, everything goes to that property. He lives in Jersey or  wherever he lives.  MR. FEBBO: So we have a contact  address in Jersey?  MR. BUTLER: That's what they said. MR. SOKOLOWSKI: Even Gary with the    11  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  taxes here has no record of anything.  MR. FEBBO: That's good. Bring it  to a head.  MR. BUTLER: It shouldn't even be a  warning now. That's been like that for a  million years.  MR. FEBBO: The second week I was on  council I was down there with Steve Bieryla doing the same exact thing we're doing right now. Seven years ago. Cadillac sitting in the back yard, high grass. Thank you.  MS. BARTOLETTI: The problem is once  they do get the letters someone comes and miraculously cleans it all up, the taxes are paid on it. It's not in a position to be  taken over.  MR. BUTLER: They might be cutting  the grass but you still have two cars and three RVs sitting in the back yard. You got a - tree, one of the branches is broke off. The guy that lives next door is worried about it falling on his house. I'11 see if he still has all the information and I'11  give it to you.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Anything else?    12  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  Thanks, Mike.  Engineer, Dave Lopatka, anything for  the upcoming meeting.  MR. LOPATKA: I'17 have a bid  package together for the Casper Street culvert replacement project. You guys will have to approve it and go out to bid. Other  than that, I don't have anything.  MR. FEBBO: I'11 give you a little  reprieve. Last couple weeks we're still working on something for the river down there. We got sidetracked with a couple  other projects.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Dave, anything  else?  MR. LOPATKA: That's it.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Anybody have  any questions for Dave?  MR. HOOVER: You said they gave the  conservation district inspection report for  Moosic Road?  MR. LOPATKA: Yeah.  MR. HOOVER: I have it here. Okay. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Anyone else?  Thank you, Dave.    13  1 2 3  Chief of police, Jason Dubernas,  anything for the meeting?  CHIEF DUBERNAS: The only thing =  and I'm not sure if it's for the meeting or not, but in the future two traffic studies to make the 100 block of Apache Drive, from West Grace Street to McGuire's house, the right shoulder, no parking. It's getting worse and worse there with the school.  6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  Then the 600 block of Hickory. I  spoke to Dave last meeting, he said they're all finished there. So they have a lot of issues on Hickory Street not only with the borough trucks but with Mascaro and everything. So we've got to try to push them to one side or the other.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: You know where  else I was going to mention? They just put the new apartment building on Stewart and Oak. I - think there might be a sign there on Stewart as you make the right but I'm not sure. It seems like when you make the right onto that street it's always : well, because now there's tenants there when there wasn't any. Now there's cars on the other    14  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  side, there's cars on both sides. When you make that turn you can barely get onto Steward from Oak Street because a lot of  cars are sitting back now.  CHIEF DUBERNAS: I'17 check it. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: There's a sign  there and I didn't notice what it says. I'11 look at it tonight. But if is it a no parking sign already, then it's either they're parking too close :  CHIEF DUBERNAS: I don't think there  is no parking. They just poured the  sidewalks.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: There's one on  Oak.  CHIEF DUBERNAS: That's been there a  long time. But where they just poured the sidewalks, I don't think there's anything  there.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: I'17 look at  it tonight. If you can go over there tomorrow and take a look at it because that's a bus stop right there, too, across the street. It gets tight there at times.  CHIEF DUBERNAS: I'11 check it out.    15  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MS. BARTOLETTI: Since we're talking  about it, is there anything that we can do with the intersection of Oak Street and  Marion Street?  CHIEF DUBERNAS: I never heard back  from PennDOT. We asked about putting a light there or at least a flashing light. I will call PennDOT for that information.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: A light there  would be a savior.  MR. BUTLER: There is a no parking  here to corner sign coming up Oak. Even when cars are parked behind that sign you  still can't see.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Chief,  anything else?  CHIEF DUBERNAS: Just one other  thing. Nothing to do with the agenda. We did have a surprise audit by the  Pennsylvania State Police regarding our JNET use, and they were very thrilled about how our department turned out and the way we move forward with stuff. We got a letter that we passed everything and they are very  pleased with us.    16  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Good. Nice  job.  MR. HOOVER: Chief, Apache Drive,  towards the school.  CHIEF DUBERNAS: I spoke with Joe.  don't know who he was. He called me. He couldn't make the turn. I said we sit there every day when school's getting out.  MR. HOOVER: He said he lives on  Apache Drive and he was coming down Grace, a guy wouldn't move. He said I'm waiting for  my kid. There's no parking.  CHIEF DUBERNAS: They don't care. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: So when you're  talking about the no parking you're speaking of the house, if you make the left on Apache, on the right with the three garages?  CHIEF DUBERNAS: Yeah, from her  house all the way to the next house, McGuire. Nobody should park on Melbourne.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Anything else?  Thank you. Anybody have any questions for  the chief? Thanks, Chief.  Assistant Fire Chief Bill Stull is  absent, solicitor Rinaldi is absent.    17  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  Marylynn, borough manager, anything for the  upcoming meeting?  MS. BARTOLETTI: I - don't have  anything for the agenda, but the meeting in July, the work session, falls on the 4th. So we need to change that. So maybe we can do that tonight. I didn't know if you wanted to make it the 11th, following week.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: I'm good with  that.  MR. HOOVER: I'm good. MR. BUTLER: I'm good.  MR. FEBBO: So that's official, we  changed it to the 11th?  MS. BARTOLETTI: We'11 change it to  the 11th. As for the agenda, I really don't  have anything to add.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Anybody have  any questions for Marylynn? Thanks,  Marylynn.  Before we go down the table we'1l go  to public comment. Mr. Zukauskas?  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: I'm here to talk  about a potential fire hazard across the street from my house here. I'17 give this    18  1 2 3 4 o 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  here. Back in February we had a safety inspection on the property across the street from my house. I have the thing here. That says "no electrical hazards." It failed for  that.  "Appliance, fixtures in good  condition. It failed for that.  It says 'extension cords not  substituted for fixed wire." It failed for that. There were three fails there.  The fire inspectors recommended  adding a ten pound fire extinguisher. I don't know if that was done. And there was supposed to be a follow-up to this inspection in 30 days. This was in  February. I would like to know if there was  a follow-up inspection on this.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: We would have  to contact either the fire chief or the assistant fire chief and he's absent this evening, but we can contact him tomorrow and  we can find out.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Now, if I may show  you some pictures here. Talking about the ten pound fire extinguisher, it seems that    19  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  they had one there. This is where the fire extinguisher is outside the front door, laying on the ground. That's the fire  extinguisher that's there.  In back of the garage you have two  empty gas containers here. That's what it looks like in back of the garage. This is : these : all these pictures were taken yesterday. This is what this property looked like in the back of the garage after the judge ordered this guy to clean this place up. Are you telling me :- you mentioned a change in use when you were discussing something just a little while ago. What about this guy here? This used to be an auto repair shop. It is now a storage area for a junk dealer. Has there ever been a change of use for this property?  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: It's a storage  unit for a junk area?  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: I don't know.  That's what I'm told, he's storing his junk  in there.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Are you  talking about the Junken Monkey property?    20  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Yes.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: The zoning  officer : not Mike, Chris Hart : kicked  him out months back.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Kicked who out? MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: The Junken  Monkey. There's no junk business there.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Well, there  certainly is junk there. You can see the pictures, Mr. Rinaldi. That's yesterday in  back of that property.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Mr. Zukauskas,  the pictures I'm looking : tell me if I'm wrong : there's three garbage cans, two garbage can lids, a wooden table and two  tarps.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Okay. MR. RUSSEL RINALDI: Are you  considering that junk?  MR. ZULAUSKAS: When we brought this  gentleman to court : yes, I do. The judge said all that stuff goes inside that garage.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Mr. Zukauskas,  everybody in the borough of 01d Forge has plastic garbage cans, plastic garbage can    21  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  lids and wooden tables in their back yards. I'm assuming. Now, the stuff that was on that trailer that was gone the next day, I would consider that to possibly be some type of junk he was moving out of there.  MR. SOKOLOWSKI: He cleaned up a  loaded trailer. He took it to the landfill.  That's what the landlord told me.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: I personally  can't consider this junk, but if the borough code book says it's junk, then we would have to ask him and everybody in the borough of 01d Forge to remove their plastic garbage  cans from their back yard.  MR. FEBBO: This is like the  basketball hoop.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: This is what the  property looked like before the court order. Now, these are the cars, this is the junk. Now, the judge says clean this property up, sO he drove those cars out. The cars are gone. This junk that you see there he put in the back and covered it with a tarp.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Mr. Zukauskas,  this junk that's here, the only thing that    22  1 2 3 4  looks like in these pictures is the blue tarp and the garbage can. The couch is gone, all this garbage, which I could barely see but it does look like garbage, that don't look to be in these photos in back. The only thing I see in the back is the blue  6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  tarp and three garbage bins.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: That should not be  there. The judge ordered that all -  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Garbage cans  shouldn't be there?  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: The judge ordered  everything to go inside that garage. Now, he drove those cars off  this is what : after Friday this is what that property looked like. That basketball hoop isn't there. So he drove those cars off, he put  the junk :  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Is the  basketball hoop there now?  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: No. This is what  I'm getting at, Mr. Rinaldi. So this is 36 days after the judge said you get rid of that he decides to take that. So here's the thing, he moves that basketball hoop. So    23  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  when we brought this guy to court it was $100 per day if he did not comply. So that thing was there for 36 days, that basketball hoop. Then after 36 days he decided to move it. - So now it is gone. So 36 days times $100, why is that guy not being fined  $3,600?  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: I'11 give you  the same answer I gave you last meeting, same answer I gave you the meting before that, and the same answer I gave you the meetings prior to that. That is up to the judge. The judge sets the fine, the judge sets the amount, the judge sets how much time he has to move. What takes place in the judge's courtroom we have no control  over.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Okay, Mr. Rinaldi, I  understand what you said, but he did not comply with that. He said okay, I did not comply with this four or five day thing. That stuff was left there. So who was enforcing that? Because that was still : that was not being moved when the judge said  you get rid of that -    24  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MR. FEBBO: Who said it's junk? Who  said it's junk under the tarp? Did you say  it's junk, Mike?  MR. SOKOLOWSKI: No.  MR. FEBBO: How can you say that's  junk?  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Because he's a junk  dealer.  MR. FEBBO: How do you know what's  under that tarp? We all have tarps.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: The judge ordered  stuff :  MR. FEBBO: You come here month  after month, we try to appease you. For some reason you and this guy don't get along. You're going to leave yourself open to a lawsuit with him. We've done everything we can possibly do.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Who was enforcing  it, Mr. Febbo? Who was enforcing that  hundred dollars per day?  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: What do you  want to be enforced? The garbage pails in  the back yard?  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: The basketball hoop    25  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  that was left there. It wasn't gone until 36 days after the judge said to remove it,  so that's $3,600.  CHIEF DUBERNAS: If the judge tells  him the fine is a hundred dollars, that's all it is, is a hundred dollars. I can't go back and say I want to charge him a fine again because now you're starting to get  into a double jeopardy case.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: January 10th,  hundred dollar fine, case closed. He didn't remove that for 36 days. Who enforces that?  CHIEF DUBERNAS: That's in your eyes  the basketball court is junk.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: It's not :  CHIEF DUBERNAS: You need to talk to  Magistrate Seig and you have to ague with him what is junk and what is not junk. In Mike's eyes, council's eyes, my eyes a basketball hoop is not junk because every resident in 01d Forge practically has basketball hoops. In your eyes it's junk because you're not happy with it. That's all there is to it. Until you're happy it will be junk and you'11 be here every month    26  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  bitching because a basketball hoop is junk. You're trying to tell us it's junk and it's  not junk. To you it's junk.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: What I don't  understand is you bring this guy to court and he doesn't comply. Who enforces it?  CHIEF DUBERNAS: That's the  magistrate. You even told the Court that he paid a hundred dollars, so it's enforced. He paid the fine. It's over and done with. You go back to the judge and tell him he didn't comply. Zoning Officer Hart had him removed. He's no longer there. Now it's just a landlord or the property owner that owns that garage, sO now you're going to go after him. The way you keep coming here every month, every month, every month you're harassing the guy. For what? A basketball  hoop.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: I just want him to  comply with the judge's order.  CHIEF DUBERNAS: He did. MR. FEBBO: He did. MR. ZUKAUSKAS: We're in  disagreement there.    27  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MR. HOOVER: How did you get a copy  of this fire department report?  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: I was given it.  Somebody gave it to me at one of the meetings. The fire chief or somebody gave it to me. I - have it. Somebody gave it to  me. That's in my possession.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: The assistant  fire chief gave you his report?  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Somebody gave it to  me.  MR. FEBBO: Who is somebody? Who  gave you that report?  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Assistant Chief Bill  Stull. Would that be him? Or was it Christopher Shaffer? One of the two  inspectors.  MR. BUTLER: What's wrong with the  garbage cans?  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: The judge ordered  things that are around that garage inside  that garage.  MR. BUTLER: Let me ask you a  question. Do you keep your garbage can in  your house?    28  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: No.  MR. BUTLER: Then why can't he have  his outside?  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Because the judge  ordered :  MR. BUTLER: I - don't think the judge  ordered him to take the garbage cans out of  there. I really don't.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: This is the  apartment building next to the garage. Is that legal? Where does that : open that door you go to the ground level. Is that up  to code, something like that?  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: I'm going to  say no. Go give this right now to  Mr. Sokolowski. Did you notice this before? Is this the first time : did you bring this  to their attention?  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: No, this is the  first time I brought that to your attention.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: There's a  door, looks like there should be a porch or deck or some type of steps that were removed. We'11 send Mike down there to check that out. That does not look safe.    29  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: It's 1248 South Main  Street. So just one last thing. In order for the things, the stuff behind the garage to be clean : because I went down to the court and they're telling me I had to come back. I feel like a ping pong ball. But you're telling me right now if I want something done with the stuff that is behind that garage I have to go back to Judge Seig?  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: I'm going to  tell you this, according to the borough code book that we follow plastic garbage cans in the back of your property, whether it's your house, an apartment building, garage, yard, whatever, a wooden table and two plastic tarps is not considered junk according to  our code book.  If you would like to personally  bring a lawsuit against Mr. -- I don't know his name : through the magistrate's office through a civil action that's your choice. You do what you would like to do. Whatever you'd like to do. I'm not advising you what you should do. I'm just saying that's the  opinion, take it from there.    30  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Now, are you telling  me that this Junk Monkey is no longer there and he doesn't have no business there now? He's vacated? Is that what you're telling  me, he's no longer there?  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: I know that  back in February our solicitor instructed our zoning officer at the time, Mr. Hart, to go down there and tell him that junk businesses are not permitted in that area. There's only a few areas in the borough of 01d Forge where they're zoned and that is not one of them. That is why the judge ordered him to remove the junk. That was what I would consider junk, and the stuff that's still there now might just be his personal garbage cans, his personal tarps. But he was told by our zoning officer you cannot run a junk business there.  MR. FEBBO: He may still be renting  the place but he's not running a junk yard  there.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: If he is  running a junk business there and we find out he is we're going to go back down there    31  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  and cite him again.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: He's bringing stuff  out of the garage, displaying it, and people are coming and buying it. You asked if I saw an exchange of money, I said no.  MR. SOKOLOWSKI: Excuse me. I spoke  to the landlord, the owner of the property. She said that's why the trailer was there. He's cleaning up, he's moving out : he moved out. He's suppose to be out of there. So they may have been her garbage cans because she owns the building next door. Maybe they're her garbage cans. But he's  moved out.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Now, the stuff  that's inside that garage that belongs to this Junken Monkey, he's storing stuff but he's not running a business there?  MR. SOKOLOWSKI: What she told me  he's moving out.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: To our  knowledge he's not running a business there. If we know he's running one there we'11 send the zoning officer down to handle it accordingly like any other business that's    32  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  being run illegally in the borough.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Thank you.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Mr. Mazalesk1? MR. MAZALESKI: I have a sewer hole  in the back of my yard. It was involved with sewer backups back in February. It was inspected, it's still not really covered. It was opened up, left it with a board over it, and kind of the change in the weather  make it very :  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Is there a  manhole on it or a grate on it?  MR. LENCESKI: On his property the  sewer line runs through the property.  MR. FEBBO: On his property? MR. LENCESKI: Yes. So that means  there's a 15 foot easement off center line in both directions. The manhole was buried in the yard. So we can't get to the yard. Now, we have the right to go onto your property because I know personally I have an easement through my property with an 01d Forge Borough line that goes to the  interceptor. Not supposed to do anything 15 foot off the center line in both directions.    33  1 2 3  The only way to get into his property would be to rip all the bushes down and do the excavation to fix that manhole. We can't  get in there.  5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  So I had Earthworks come, I had Mike  Ford come, marked up the road, and we have to change everything because I don't know if Hatala shifted the road way back when in order to sell lots. Usually manholes are in  roads. It's close to his house.  Mr. Mazaleski's sewer line goes in front of his house. So it comes off of Mary, cuts through his yard and comes back into  Josephine.  So I had Earthworks down there, I  had Mike Ford lay everything out. I - asked Earthworks to give us a price on changing it. He never did. I forgot about it. I did. I went back, met him again with Mike, called him to try to put a price so we can get it out of his yard instead of going into his yard, ripping the bushes out. It's shallow and it's in a weird spot.  MR. MAZALESKI: We don't have it for  our house. It just goes down to Josephine    34  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  Street.  MR. SOKOLOWSKI: It cuts through his  yard but there's nothing that ties in on  that side.  MR. FEBBO: Is it a dead system? MR. LENCESKI: No, it's not. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Why don't we  have Joe contact them again, find out what's the price, find out what the fix is, then we can have Joe contact you, let you know how we're going to move forward with it.  MR. FEBBO: Bill, an oversight,  mixup here. He's back on it.  MR. MAZALESKI: It was inspected by  the two : they were checking -  MR. LENCESKI: I had Mike Ford come  and lay it all out.  MR. FEBBO: The bottom line is  there's a fix for it. Correct?  MR. LENCESKI: Yes. Like I said, I  forgot about it.  MR. FEBBO: Are you okay with what  he's saying?  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: We'17 let Joe  contact him.    35  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MR. LENCESKI: I did.  MR. RUSSEL RINALDI: We will get a  price and have Joe contact you, let him tell you how we're going to move forward with it.  MR. MAZALESKI: Sounds good. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Anybody else  from the public before we go down the table?  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: One last thing. Do  Ih have to contact somebody to find out about the follow? What do I do with this again, the follow inspection, see if this has been  done?  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: You want to  fine out if :  MR. LENCESKI: I remember being at a  meeting and they said they followed up.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: I'm pretty  sure there was a follow up, but I'11 contact Bill Stull for you and make sure, see if there was. I'17 ask him if he can bring a report of the follow up to the next meeting, or if you want to contact him again.  Anyone else from the public? We'11  go down the table, see if anyone has anything to add before we adjourn. Mayor    36  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  Legg?  MAYOR LEGG: Thursday at ten. It's  probably going to be outside. Not supposed to get rain later on in the afternoon.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: June 8th. MAYOR LEGG: It grew a life of its  own. Family coming from Ohio, Texas. So all the newspapers are going to be there, TV stations. They interviewed Rusty Fender today. He's going to be on the news tomorrow at 3:00, 28. That's all.  MR. FEBBO: I'm good. MR. BUTLER: I'm good.  MR. HOOVER: I'm good. Just want to  get the paving program started as soon as we  can.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: I have no  items as well. With that, the chair would entertain a motion to adjourn the work  session.  MR. FEBBO: Make that motion. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: By Councilman  Febbo. A1l in favor?  (Unanimous. Meeting adjourned.)    37  1 2 3 4 5  CERTIEICATE  h hereby certify that I attended the foregoing  proceeding, took stenographic notes of the same, that 6 the foregoing, consisting of 36 pages, is a true and correct copy, done to the best of my ability, of same  7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  and the whole thereof.  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