1 1 2 3 4 OLD FORGE BOROUGH COUNCIL OLD FORGE, PENNSYLVANIA 5 IN RE: REGULAR MEETING OF COUNCIL 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 JULY 27, 2021 7:00 P.M. EAGLE MCCLURE HOSE COMPANY MILWAUKEE AVENUE OLD FORGE, PENNSYLVANIA COUNCIL MEMBERS: RUSSELL RINALDI, PRESIDENT RICK NOTARI, VICE-PRESIDENT MICHELLE AVVISATO MICHAEL LETTIERI MICHAEL KOMENSKY ROBERT LEGG, MAYOR 20 JAMES HOOVER 21 22 WILLIAM RINALDI, ESQUIRE, SOLICITOR MARYLYNN BARTOLETTI, BOROUGH MANAGER 23 24 25 Mark Wozniak Official Court Reporter 2 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. I'd like to start the meeting with the Pledge of Allegiance. (The Pledge of Allegiance was recited.) MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Roll call, please, Marylynn. MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilwoman Avvisato? MS. AVVISATO: Here. MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Febbo is absent. Councilman Hoover? MR. HOOVER: Present. MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Komensky? MR. KOMENSKY: Here. MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Lettieri? MR. LETTIERI: Present. MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Notari? MR. NOTARI: Present. MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Rinaldi? MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Here. Welcome to - the 01d Forge Borough meeting. Today is Tuesday, July 27th. The purpose of 3 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 tonight's meeting is to go through some of our nousekeeping motions and go through our agenda. We'17 hear reports from our department heads. There's a public sign-in sheet the chief has if anyone from the audience or public would like to speak. The list is a little bit long this evening, so you're going to be timed on a five-minute timer. When you start speaking we'1l start the timer sO we can give everyone enough time to speak. If anyone didn't sign in and would like to the sheet is at the chief's desk. With that being said, we're going to go through some of our housekeeping motions. Our first motion on the list is motion to approve the minutes from the prior meeting. MR. NOTARI: I'11 make the motion. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: By Councilman Notari. MR. LETTIERI: Second. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Seconded by Councilman Lettieri. On the question? Public input? Roll call, please. MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilwoman 4 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Avvisato? MS. AVVISATO: Yes. MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Hoover? MR. HOOVER: Yes. MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Komensky? MR. KOMENSKY: Yes. MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Lettieri? MR. LETTIERI: Yes. MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Notari? MR. NOTARI: Yes. MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Rinaldi? MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Yes. Our second item under housekeeping is a motion to approve the treasurer reports. Please note this does not include the sewer account. MR. NOTARI: I'17 make that motion. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: By Councilman Notari. MS. AVVISATO: I'17 second that. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Seconded by Councilwoman Avvisato. On the question? Public input? Ro1l call, please. 5 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilwoman Avvisato? MS. AVVISATO: Yes. MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Hoover? MR. HOOVER: Yes. MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Komensky? MR. KOMENSKY: Yes. MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Lettieri? MR. LETTIERI: Yes. MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Notari? MR. NOTARI: Yes. MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Rinaldi? MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Yes. Our third item under housekeeping is motion to approve invoices for payment. Once again, please note this does not include the sewer account. MR. NOTARI: I'11 make that motion. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: By Councilman Notari. MR. HOOVER: I'17 second it. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Seconded by Councilman Hoover. On the question? Public 6 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 input? Roll call, please. MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilwoman Avvisato? MS. AVVISATO: Yes. MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Hoover? MR. HOOVER: Yes. MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Komensky? MR. KOMENSKY: Yes. MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Lettieri? MR. LETTIERI: Yes. MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Notari? MR. NOTARI: Yes. MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Rinaldi? MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Yes. The fourth item is a motion to approve the sewer department financial report. MR. NOTARI: I'17 make that motion. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: By Councilman Notari. MR. KOMENSKY: I'11 second it. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Seconded by Councilman Komensky. On the question? Public input? Roll call, please. 7 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilwoman Avvisato? MS. AVVISATO: Yes. MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Hoover? MR. HOOVER: Yes. MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Komensky? MR. KOMENSKY: Yes. MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Lettieri? MR. LETTIERI: Yes. MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Notari? MR. NOTARI: Yes. MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Rinaldi? MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Yes. Last item under housekeeping is motion to approve sewer department invoices for payment. MR. NOTARI: I'17 make that motion. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: By Councilman Notari. MR. LETTIERI: I'17 second that. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Seconded by Councilman Lettieri. On the question? Public input? Roll call, please. MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilwoman 8 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Avvisato? MS. AVVISATO: Yes. MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Hoover? MR. HOOVER: Yes. MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Komensky? MR. KOMENSKY: Yes. MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Lettieri? MR. LETTIERI: Yes. MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Notari? MR. NOTARI: Yes. MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Rinaldi? MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Yes. We'11 go to some of our department heads. Council has the DPW manager's report, Joe Lenceski. Does anybody have any questions for Joe? Joe, do you have anything else for us? MR. LENCESKI: No, I don't. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Anybody have any questions for Joe? MR. NOTARI: One question. Marion Street park, we're responsible for cutting the grass and the weeds and taking care of that park. Right? 9 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 MR. LENCESKI: Correct. MR. NOTARI: Take a look tomorrow and see if everything is getting done properly. There seems to be a little overgrowth along the edges. I noticed that at Pagnotti a couple weeks ago, too. Take a look. Thank you. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Anyone else have any questions for Joe? MR. HOOVER: Joe, I want to get together with you for that paving list. MR. LENCESKI: Great. MR. HOOVER: Couple streets. Give them to Dave during the week. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Anyone else? Thanks, Joe. Chris Hart, code enforcement/zoning officer. Everyone has his report. Anyone have any questions for him? Anything for us, Chris? MR. HART: Nothing. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Thank you. Dave Lopatka, engineer's report, we have it. Anything to add or anything else for us? MR. LOPATKA: No. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Anybody have 10 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 any questions for Dave? MR. NOTARI: Yeah. Mid-July has passed. MR. LOPATKA: It has. Still the big issue is the blue stone. We're kind of waiting for it. There's been a couple minor changes, too, that we're looking at. Some work, maybe, on the front of the senior center, some windows, redoing the brick out there sO everything looks uniform across the front. A lot of the inside is done. A lot. The floors are down. MR. NOTARI: It looks good. MR. LOPATKA: And the elevator is progressing. A11 windows are in there, the elevator's in. Hopefully trying to get finished up as soon as we can get the blue stone. MR. NOTARI: I have some questions. Marylynn has a handle on it. I'11 let her deal with you during the daytime hours. Can you give me a new date? September 1st? October 1st? MR. LOPATKA: I'm hoping by September 1st. I'17 see what I can verify 11 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 through the contractor. See if they heard anything on the blue stone. That's really the big key right now. A lot of the inside is just cosmetic stuff and the outside a little bit. MR. NOTARI: Are we paving the back parking lot? MR. LOPATKA: Yes. MS. BARTOLETTI: Tomorrow. MR. NOTARI: There's no chance of there being a gas tank there, is there? MR. LOPATKA: We're only milling. MR. HOOVER: There's a couple streets I want to go over with Joe for paving. I'11 let you know. Maybe by the next meeting. How do we feel about doing a paving program this year? MR. NOTARI: I'm in. MS. AVVISATO: I'm definitely in. MR. HOOVER: We have to do something with Dunn Avenue. That's a mess. It's going to be a lot. We have to do it soon. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Do we have enough time? MR. LOPATKA: We can see. There's a 12 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 lot of guys busy. Now's the time where they're crunching. MR. HOOVER: Even if we get the bid together and bid it in January for next year. MR. LOPATKA: That's the best time. Most of them are looking. Now a lot of them are stacked up. MS. BARTOLETTI: If we do it that way you can add on next year's money as well. MR. HOOVER: Let's get the streets we have straigntened out. MR. LOPATKA: That's probably best option. You get the best price and the most done for the money. MR. HOOVER: Saint Lawrence's Church, I want you to look at the floor upstairs. Can we do that now? MR. LOPATKA: We can take a look at it. - I had the bottom floor surveyed. I have a map of the floor plan. If you guys were looking to rent a portion of that we should probably use this map to understand exactly what you're renting out out of the 13 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 bottom floor. MR. NOTARI: I believe we're renting out the entire basement. Correct? MR. HOOVER: Yes. ATTY. RINALDI: No, exclusive of the mechanicals and the kitchen. MR. NOTARI: The kitchen's part of it, isn't it? ATTY. RINALDI: The kitchen is part of it. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Anyone else have anything for Dave? Anything else, Dave? MR. LOPATKA: No. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Thank you. Police report. Chief Dubernas, anything else? CHIEF DUBERNAS: No. The only thing is the no parking signs for South Main Street. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: For the agenda this evening? CHIEF DUBERNAS: Yes. MS. AVVISATO: That's near the 01d Forge Pharmacy? 14 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 CHIEF DUBERNAS: The other one is 1100 block. That's the one from PennDOT that they said as long as it's approved by council. MR. HOOVER: Chief, did we do that report on Church Street? CHIEF DUBERNAS: I was talking to Councilman Notari earlier about it. I had a couple issues with him. I'11 have it done for the next one. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Anything else? CHIEF DUBERNAS: That's it. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Anyone else have anything for the chief? MR. NOTARI: About a month or two ago, maybe even earlier, you talked about getting with the civil service commission regarding CHIEF DUBERNAS: Spoke with attorney Solfanelli. He has everything done for entry officer level. He's working on the promotional part. It's part of the civil service. Again, I'd like to have an executive for maybe two, three minutes afterwards. 15 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Anyone else? Thanks, Chief. Bill Stull, fire chief report. MR. STULL: Everything's in the report that I sent to council. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Anything to add? MR. STULL: No. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Anybody have any questions for Assistant Chief Stull? Thanks, Bill. Attorney Rinaldi, solicitor's report. Anything? ATTY. RINALDI: The only new item : two new items. One, I drafted a resolution authorizing the borough of 01d Forge to enter into a shutoff agreement with Pennsylvania American Water. I didn't know if you were going to consider that tonight. Idid review that agreement and there's still parts that need to be revised for the borough. If you're going to do no parking it's got to be an ordinance. So we need to advertise and pass that. It's something you 16 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 can't do tonight. We can probably do that at the next meeting. MR. HOOVER: Everybody get the shutoff notice that I sent? MR. NOTARI: Yes. The sewer committee met yesterday, myself and Councilman Komensky and Marylynn. Councilman Febbo couldn't make it. There were some things that we came up with that we'd like to discuss maybe after in executive, since we got caught up early, and t think that would be part of it. So if we can wait on the shutoff we'11 do it next month. MR. HOOVER: That's fine. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Bill, anything else? ATTY. RINALDI: No, that's it. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Anyone else have anything for the attorney? Thanks, Bill. Marylynn, borough manager's report. Anything to add? MS. BARTOLETTI: The first question h have is does anyone need any information 17 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 on any of our financial reports? No questions? Okay. What I'd like to do is set up interviews for the administrative position that we'11 be hiring. So I think, Russell, you have to name a person to the personnel committee. So once you do that, maybe we can get a meeting together on that. We received a $25,000 grant from LLVSA to our sewer department. We received $413,000 for our first payment of the American Rescue Plan funding. We have to sign the lease agreement with Head Start. On the agenda there's another request from Ted Giglio to close Ali Rosa, the alley, for a party that they have every year. It's just for a couple hours. So you have to vote on that. And just one other thing. I'd like tos see if we can discuss with the chief several years ago we discussed the parking situation at the intersection of Oak Street and Marion. When you try to pull out from Marion onto Oak the sight line is very bad. 18 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 I 1 think we could take a look at that. Maybe Jay could do something with that and maybe we can vote on that at the next meeting. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Are you thinking about reducing the : making the line of sight Tonger? MS. BARTOLETTI: Especially when the cars are parked almost to the corner. It's basically impossible to pull out there. MR. NOTARI: I believe we did a study years ago. Correct? MS. BARTOLETTI: Yes, but we never did anything about it. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Chief, I know we probably echoed it just in conversation in the past. What would be the proper procedure if we wanted to contact or discuss with PennDOT a possible street light there? CHIEF DUBERNAS: That's a state roadway. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: But would you contact them or would he contact them? MR. NOTARI: I think it's a good idea. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Maybe a 19 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 possible street light there is good with the school being sO close. A lot of traffic with the kids, buses. MR. NOTARI: Even if it was a blinker light. MS. AVVISATO: That's a good idea. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: If we can contact them and at least get the conversation started with them, get their thoughts on it and let them know what our next move would be if they would request something from us. Anything else? MS. BARTOLETTI: No. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Anyone have any questions for the borough manager? MS. BARTOLETTI: The TSE invoices are on the agenda. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Anybody else have any questions for Marylynn? Thanks, Mare. We'17 go down the table, see if anyone has anything to report on. Mayor Legg? MAYOR LEGG: Nothing right now. I have something for executive session. MR. NOTARI: I have a few things. 20 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Have we made any progress with the water problem in front of the Anastassi house on Hoover Street? Were we ever going to do anything with the puddle right in front of their sidewalk every time it rains? MR. LENCESKI: I have the prices that I gave you guys last week. As Tong as everyone is okay we can move forward. It's in last month's report. MR. NOTARI: It was that and the : MR. LENCESKI: If you want to talk in executive session. MR. NOTARI: Okay, we can talk about it in executive, I guess. My next thing is b believe we all received e-mail from the gentleman that runs the food pantry at Saint Michael's Church over on Winter Street. I e-mailed him. He was looking for help from the borough. Really, he was looking for space. He said it kind of outgrew where they were and they have a lack of volunteers. I don't believe we have any space to help them. When I returned the e-mail to the gentleman, he e-mailed me back maybe a week 21 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 later and said -- I e-mailed him some suggestions, and he said they followed through on those suggestions and they were not of help and that they were probably going to close down August 3rd. That was going to be the last time. He mentioned that the food pantry serves 01d Forge, Taylor, Duryea, and that, for lack of a better word, business was increasing and they figured it would continue to increase. But they just didn't have the manpower or the wherewithal to continue at Saint Michael's. So I still don't have an answer for them. I don't know how the borough can help them. But with such a large public crowd here tonight I'm hoping maybe word can get out and that someone or somewhere would agree to host this food pantry and find some volunteers for it. It's a big thing in our community and something that's needed, and it's going to be a shame if it goes away. My third thing is I e-mailed council Sunday night. The National Fitness Court is a project throughout the country which is a 22 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 fitness area that they put in parks. Most of these parks are in the west and southeast. There are two in Pennsylvania close to university hubs. We would be the third -- the only community in the northeast to host this fitness court if we were able to raise the funds. How it works is the National Fitness Foundation comes up with a grant which they have approved for us for $30,000. If we were to match that grant, they would then go ahead and seek out the rest of the funds to complete this area. It would go at the Marion Street park. It would be a great feather, I think, in the park system's cap here in 01d Forge. It would help with the school district, I believe, in their physical education curriculum. It's a pretty neat thing. I've talked to some of the other members of our community and they're very interested in us pursuing this. Iw will bring a motion to the floor tonight to see if the borough will commit $30,000 to match that grant sO the process can begin on raising the funds. It's a 23 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 $180,000 project. One of the caveats of the project is that, yes, we commit a match, but if we're not able to raise the funds to complete the project, then that money doesn't go anywhere. We keep that money. We would just loose the grant, they would move on to a different community. Our community's changing a lot, it's growing in different ways, and I think something different would be a nice addition for the borough of 01d Forge. So I'm hoping for support on that later in the meeting. That's all I have. Thank you. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Councilman Lettieri? MR. LETTIERI: I'm fine at this time. MR. KOMENSKY: Nothing at this time. MS. AVVISATO: I have nothing, Mr. Chairman. MR. HOOVER: I'm good. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: I have nothing either until we get into new business. But before that we're going to go to public 24 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 comment, and first up would be Robert Hughes. MR. HUGHES: Good evening, Council. come before you tonight to tell you that I'd like to know what your zoning officer does. He has a car, you pay for his gas. I'd like to know what he does every day of the week because you got a deplorable property on Main Avenue that's outrageous. You got a camper, a car, weeds growing over the top of the car, you got rats, possums. You name it, it's there. My cousin has to live with that situation. He's right next door. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Did you notify the zoning officer about it? MR. HUGHES: No. Can't the zoning officer see what's going on? MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Are you aware of it? MR. HART: I'm aware of it. It's been an ongoing issue for five years now. It's right on Main Street. The palm reader. MR. HUGHES: Look at the camper. That's deplorable. 25 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 MR. HART: It's been an ongoing issue for five years now. I - have reports and records from the magistrate's office from when Steve Bieryla was in, when Paul Papi was there. You can ask anybody, I've been trying to locate the owner. Every single record that I have reports back to that address, that house. I'm hearing that they live in Jersey. I checked tax records. It all comes back to that address. Right now : and I was just talking to the chief about it. I'm trying to find a way that I can actually locate these people so we can actually send them a certified letter and do something about it. It's not like there's nothing getting done. There's stuff in the works. But I'm in two months and I can't do it overnight. It's been an ongoing issue for five years. These people, nobody can find them. The last name is Miller on it. Every single record and report that I have reports back to the Main Street address. So unless we do something to go down and clean the property up, do something like that, the only option 26 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 is to find the guy and move forward. MR. HOOVER: Can we do minimal work down there just to cut the grass and cut the weeds? ATTY. RINALDI: No. MR. NOTARI: You're on private property. MR. HART: Everybody's saying the guy lives in New Jersey. I have three different numbers. Not one of them goes through. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Bill, if he can't locate anybody? ATTY. RINALDI: Call me. MR. NOTARI: Shouldn't our first step be a certified letter? MR. HART: The only address I have is that one. MR. NOTARI: But my thought is if we start the process and we don't receive anything, can we then declare it a nuisance property or an unlivable property? MR. HART: The process had been started years ago. There were certified letters already sent to that address from 27 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Steve. I have all the old reports and files, but literally it went nowhere. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Contact Bill or Bill contact you tomorrow and let's start the process again. MR. HART: There's multiple properties in town with the same situation. We have landlords in New York and New Jersey. I can send a hundred letters. They don't respond, they don't do anything. There has to be a solution. I'm taking all the heat for not doing anything, but in all reality it's been going on for years. I'm here two months and I'm already aware of them and already sending letters, but we haven't been getting answers. MR. NOTARI: We're going to change that, hopefully. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Get with Bill and let's see if Bill can locate them or get a certified letter, start the process. MR. HART: There's files dating back seven years now. I'm going to court hearings that are 11-year issues. I'm here two months. At the end of the day the heat 28 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 all comes back on me. MR. HUGHES: I'd like to know what's going on with the Stocki property. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: As far as what, Bob? MR. HUGHES: Well, the machinery's being all moved up on Keyser Avenue now and there's still machinery back where his property is. It's unbelievable. MR. HOOVER: We know. MR. HUGHES: Well, what are you doing about it? ATTY. RINALDI: On the property next door there's a couple cases now at the magistrate. We didn't get a date yet. They filed. MR. HUGHES: What about moving them big machines up in Keyser Avenue? Who gave him permission to do that? ATTY. RINALDI: That's what I'm talking about. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Thanks, Bob. Dave Marhelski? MR. MARHELSKI: I'm just wondering if council came up with any kind of 29 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 resolution or your borough engineer about the drainage on Mowry, Lori and Kelly Drive where the water comes down. It pools across the street to Mucciolo's. It's a disaster waiting to happen. It's like a lake. The drain's on the other side of the street. We have no storm drains up there. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: We'11 send Dave there this week to take a look at it. MR. MARHELSKI: Who's responsible for the road going up to the cemetery, Saint Stan's, on Mine Street? MS. BARTOLETTI: Part of it is the diocese. MR. MARHELSKI: The borough used to take care of that road. They paved it. MS. BARTOLETTI: I don't know that the borough paved it. MR. MARHELSKI: Might be before your time. I remember the borough paved that road. The borough used to plow that road. MS. BARTOLETTI: After there was a collapse of that large pipe and we checked into it and it was owned by the diocese. MR. MARHELSKI: Well, they said 30 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 that's Ransom's problem. That's not Ransom. That's still 01d Forge. Nobody wanted to take responsibility for it. The gentleman here at the firehouse took responsibility for it. He went up and fixed it. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: What's wrong with the road? MR. MARHELSKI: I - just want to know who maintains it, who plows it. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Bill, could you find out if we own that road? ATTY. RINALDI: Marylynn asked about this. It's diocese property. MR. MARHELSKI: Also, coming down Mowry Street, I don't know if it's borough's responsibility or state for the property. If you're looking south you can't see the cars coming up. A1l the trees are coming up over the road there. CHIEF DUBERNAS: It's 1204-1206 Mowry. I have the phone number for the management company. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: We'11 have Chris give them a call. George Harris? MR. HARRIS: Now he has the property 31 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 on the other side. Mark Barrett owns that one. He's a local kid. His bushes are up to my second floor window. They can only be six feet. I'm five foot. They're towering over me. I can't walk through my sidewalk in the back because they're all hanging over. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Do you have the address for him? MR. HARRIS: Mine is 839. MS. AVVISATO: The corner of West Morton. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: We'11 have him give him a call. MR. HART: The problem is if I don't take these people by their hand and stand there with them, unfortunately, it doesn't get done. I reach out to these people, I send them letters, I talk to them. MR. NOTARI: After the second excuse you cite them, period. MR. HARRIS: I love I have no neighbors, but they're the biggest pains in the asses going. The worst people in the world. I just want it taken care of. 32 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: We'11 have him contact them. Mary Piragas? MS. PIRAGAS: So I'm here to request permission to block off the road again this year for our community block party. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Same thing as last year? MS. PIRAGAS: Yeah, Reilly Street between McClure and just the alley before Sibley. The date this year is going to be August 14th from about 1:00 until about 9 p.m. MR. NOTARI: Chief, did we have any problems doing that last year? CHIEF DUBERNAS: No. I think last year they blocked Reilly at Sibley to stop everybody from coming in. Right? MS. PIRAGAS: No, because we did block the alley. You could come in from Sibley and make a left or a right on the alleyway. It was the alleyway we blocked. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: We'11 put it on the agenda tonight. MS. PIRAGAS: We just heard last night that sometimes the fire department 33 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 will do a drive by for events like this. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Right there. Mrs. Wilk? MS. WILK: I'd like to thank council that voted, Ms. Avvisato, Mr. Hoover and Mr. Notari, against the tower that was being put up. And I'd like to thank the mayor for beaking the tie. Prior to that meeting Verizon was at that property and they did put a tower up. Right across the street from this lady's house. She saw it. I don't know how legal that is. It was never approved. It was shot down. But the tower is up there. Prior to them coming to the meeting when you guys were going to vote on this -- MS. AVVISATO: They can't. It's a residential. MR. LETTIERI: I don't think that was Verizon. MR. HOOVER: It's on the existing property that they own. They can do that on their existing property. It's a hundred feet in the air. MS. WILK: Mariotti's the one that 34 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 owns it. Here's some information. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: They could not have constructed a tower that fast. Is that right next to the power plant? MR. LETTIERI: That's a small one. MS. AVVISATO: That's not Verizon. MR. NOTARI: That's PPL. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: That's been there for a while. MS. WILK: They're coming back an they're going to try to put the tower up again. There's a history right there on the towers and secondary radiation. MS. SHELSKI: My daughter called the cancer bureau and they said that that kind of tower could cause cancer and that tower should not be placed in an environment where there's sO much community. The school is right there. The kids are going to be affected by that tower, let alone us, the people that live there. That tower should not be there. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Are you talking about the tower that's currently there? 35 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 MR. LETTIERI: That's from PPL. MR. HART: I'17 go there this week and look. It's PPL property. They had a right to do what they were doing in the past on it. MS. SHELSKI: I had a contractor was sitting on my porch. I guess they were putting the tower up. He was walking around and he was taking pictures of my house, and I called him over and said why are you taking pictures of my house? He never did answer me. MS. AVVISATO: That's not Verizon. MS. SHELSKI: He said that they're going to start -- I asked him when are you going to put this tower up but it was there. The trees were in the way and I didn't really see it. He said we're going to start in the spring. We have to go to the lawyers and the bureau and what not, then it will be up. I said I want to get to the meetings, May 25th, whatever, but I can't go. I called four people, I can't get there. He said if you vote for me I'17 take you. MS. WILK: They were sitting in the 36 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 corner, the guy from Verizon. You guys didn't even get the motion. He sat there very brazen in the corner with his little plaque, and he stated oh, I will be back to get a variance from PPL. I - already talked to them. It should be in one of your meetings. MS. AVVISATO: I think the vote was no. MS. WILK: This is prior to. MS. AVVISATO: How could they put it on if we voted no? MR. NOTARI: Two different properties. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: We're going to have Chris contact PPL because it's on their property. We're going to have PPL give us the information on it. Anything else? MS. WILK: No. MS. SHELSKI: That's about it. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Louis Pettinato? MR. PETTINATO: John's handing out some summaries. We'17 have pictures and then comments that we signed. I want to ask 37 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Mr. Hart where are we at with the property at the intersection of Butler and Main? MR. HART: That's the zoning solicitor here. We were speaking about it before. There is a process we can take. There's things in motion right now with the police department, with myself and everything. Like we said every other meeting, things can't happen overnight and we can't just walk in there and lock the doors, board the windows up and eliminate the garage completely. There's a process that we have to take. We all spoke prior to this. MR. PETTINATO: Our feeling is we believe the property is a nuisance property. We believe that there's several areas of violation of 01d Forge codes. We've looked through them. John presented them. Those will be parking. Patti will present pictures of vehicles on the property from July 3rd to July 13th. Expired inspection sticker. That's clearly a violation. It was on the street for longer than 72 hours. The street's not supposed to be used for 38 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 parking for vehicles awaiting repair, that I know of. Looking at all the cars that are always parked in the lot, such that there's, again, cars parked on the street awaiting repair, sometimes cars parked on the Domino's property. There's no way for there to be required number of parking spaces, which is one for every 200 square feet of interior floor space. There's no way to have enough parking spaces, which each have to be ten by 18 or 180 square feet. And if you look at the pictures we presented over the years, whether it's on cell phones or actual pictures that we'1l hand in at the end that you can look, there's no way for there to be adequate ingress and egress, which is, to my knowledge, another code. Again, no way to have the proper number of parking spaces. Again, the street's not supposed to be used for parking while the vehicles await repair, that I know of. So area, prohibited use of recreational vehicles. Our neighbors are 39 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 here and will state that they've seen recreational vehicles operating out of the property, speeding up and down Butler Street, operating in an unsafe manner. On or around July 15th they did a thunder run of sorts. Some individuals on quads down Main Street, my understanding. Joe, you saw people right before and after, leaving and coming back. You signed a statement. George, you've seen them going up and down. That's clearly a violation of code. The next would be health and safety. For example, codes say that drainage cannot be directed off site without adequate treatment of oils and fuel. We have pictures of cars leaking oil. Again, cars parked, awaiting repair, leaking oil. There's another picture of one of the occupants washing his quad with the water going own Main Street. We feel that not only is it a Violation, it's a safety issue. Finally, a few other things. With respect to the parking, they're supposed to not have vehicles parked within 25 feet of a residential property. Now, there's no 40 screen there, as there should be. That kind of a business is supposed to have either screening or fencing. George, they're parked right up to your property. Correct? 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 MR. SWOREN: About three inches from my wall. MR. PETTINATO: That has to be a violation. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Are they blocking your driveway? Did you call the police? Was the car blocking when the police got there? UNKNOWN SPEAKER: They move by the time they get up there. MR. PETTINATO: How many properties in 01d Forge that are in question like this? We would like to have and expect people on council and Chris to drive by and make note of it. It seems like it's up to us all the time to do this research and come up with this. By the way, with respect to nuisance, how late can they be open at night? MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: It's 8 p.m. 41 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Correct, Bill? ATTY. RINALDI: I - think it's a ten or 11. MR. HART: Their business hours are eight to five. I get calls from people 1:00 in the morning, 12:00 at night. I'm aware of all these situations. Things are being done, but once again, they can't happen overnight. MR. PETTINATO: These are the reasons we feel this is a nuisance property. They define nuisance property as a property that causes annoyance or discomfort to persons beyond the boundaries of the property. MS. AVVISATO: Are they doing work at that time? MR. PETTINATO: I believe they are. MS. SWOREN: Chris will come up. Chris has been there a couple times. They stop, the cops will leave, and then they get on their quads and they'11 rev the quads out in the parking lot. We have new neighbors, a baby. Poor people. MR. PETTINATO: These are the 42 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 reasons we feel this is a nuisance property. This has been three years now, and we're prepared to keep coming and to do whatever we need to do to take further action until this gets remedied. There is a myth I want to clear up. A statement has been made. One of the occupants made it. I hope nobody up here coached him to say that. That we, the residents of the hill, as we call it, don't want any sort of business there. That's false. That's false. The proof of that is nobody ever complained when Roy Williams was there because he was a good neighbor. We do expect a business to be a good neighbor. We know 01d Forge needs businesses to be successful, but we expect a business to be a good neighbor. Not to present a hazard. She'17 show pictures of a BMW without doors. Junk vehicles. Those are all in the code defined as hazards. MS. LESHINSKI: What is the business? Is it dismantling? Is it a quad shop? Is it sales? What kind of business 43 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 is it? There's all kinds of things going on under that roof and we don't know. What is the business operating as? MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: What type of business is it? MS. LESHINSKI: Is it an auto repair shop or a quad shop or both? They're dismantling vehicles there. There's nothing that comes in or out of those doors that aren't in pieces or parts. Nothing ever drives in or out unless it's on the back of another truck. MR. PETTINATO: Sometimes they're not there all day, until later, so I'm wondering how are all these cars parked in the parking lot and when are they working on them? I can't make an accusation, but just logically think about it. MR HOOVER: This is a C-1? MR. HART: Yes. MR. PETTINATO: So they don't have adequate fencing, no ingress and egress that's proper because the parking lot's jammed most of the time. There's not enough parking spaces. They're parked on the 44 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 street. That has to be a violation. At what point do we not declare this a nuisance. At some point something bad is going to happen because they don't seem to care about the neighbors. Neither did Ronnie. But nobody decided to pick on them, nobody decided to pick on Ronnie. We're at the point where we'11 take it to wherever we have to to get it remedied. It's become that frustrating. Everybody knows that. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Chief, according to what he's stating what would fall under nuisance? CHIEF DUBERNAS: It depends on how many times we're there. We've been there multiple times, multiple tickets. MR. PETTINATO: The chief was kind enough, he did an incident report. But there's been ten phone calls between the operation of the quads, there's trucks parked -- I called myself. There were pickup trucks full of junk parked facing up the hill on the wrong side. Ten phone calls for February. How much do we need before 45 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 it's declared a nuisance? MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: That's what I'm asking the chief. CHIEF DUBERNAS: He called multiple times. There's multiple tickets been issued. We just had an arrest out of there. We've been proactive towards it. MR. HOOVER: It says annoyance or discomfort to persons beyond the boundaries of that property. Are they doing that? CHIEF DUBERNAS: With the ATVs : MR. HOOVER: Yes or no? CHIEF DUBERNAS: We never had issues there with the ATVs. It's always been away from there, coming there. The incident we had was on Main Street. MR. HOOVER: Annoyance or discomfort to persons beyond the boundaries of that property. I'm going to say yes. Interference with the health, safety and welfare of persons beyond the boundaries of that property. CHIEF DUBERNAS: That's what we just had an arrest for. MR. HOOVER: Disturbance or 46 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 interference with the peaceful use of property of others within the borough. I think it's kind of cut and dry, if you ask me. Like Mr. Pettinato said, I'd hate to have a business in 01d Forge be a nuisance property, but if he's not following the rules and not following the regulations something has to be done. We can't have the residents coming here every meeting for the last four years that I'm here, and it's the same as the other problem that we have. That's the way I feel. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Bill, legally the property's deemed a nuisance. What's the action we take against it? ATTY. RINALDI: The chief : well, it's an ordinance. The chief can file. CHIEF DUBERNAS: Under the ordinance : MR. PETTINATO: This is similar to years ago under Ronnie again. MS. AVVISATO: Seems like it's more congested now. MR. PETTINATO: It's gotten worse. MR. NOTARI: Can I ask a question of 47 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 the neighbors? Whenever you've called the police have they come? MR. PETTINATO: Yes. MR. NOTARI: And every time they come is it all the sudden everything's fixed? In terms of Mr. Sworen, you said they were in front of your driveway and by the time the cops got there they were gone. This picture here where there's a car blocking the alley and a car parked the wrong way on a road, when the police were called were they gone? Did you call the police? MR. JUROSKI: I C didn't want to bother the police. They got more important things. MR. NOTARI: Here's the thing. There are not more important things to do. If you call the police and tell them there is a nuisance - if you don't, Mr. Juroski, there's nothing we can do. You need to build nuisances over and over. I understand the frustration but : MR. PETTINATO: It's time. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Chief, again, 48 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 what does it take to declare that property a nuisance? Or bill? One of you tell me. What does it take to declare it a nuisance? ATTY. RINALDI: There's a process the zoning officer has to go through and notify them. Chief, there's no parking on the street. Right? CHIEF DUBERNAS: Going up the hill there's no parking. Coming down you could. MR. PETTINATO: I did call once because one of their vehicles : again, I don't think : somebody tell me. Are you supposed to use the street to store vehicles? ATTY. RINALDI: No. That's why we fined Ron Coles. MR. PETTINATO: I - called once because they actually had one of their vehicles parked past the no parking sign. And especially in the winter when it's icy. It's bad enough in normal conditions pulling out of there. So I think the time has come, in my opinion and our opinion. MS. SWOREN: I went down and spoke 49 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 with them. They said they were going to put an inspection place in, they were only going to work on cars. That was lovely. Ronnie did the same thing. The cars in that lot, if you come up our street, by our driveway there's a green one and white one that have been there since November. No windows, everything shoved inside. There's a pickup truck filled with garbage that stays they throw the garbage in. Stacked tires. They don't care. MR. PETTINATO: We expect you guys to ride around. You see it. MR. NOTARI: Yes. I understand that. Believe me, I drive by, too. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: We've all driven by there. MR. NOTARI: For whatever reason, when I drive by everything seems to be in order. I guess I go by at the wrong time. I've been told they parked up to the stop sign and every time I drive by they're not. I've been told they park on the sidewalk, and I see it here in the pictures, but when I drive by there's nothing. So like I said, 50 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 I have to change the times I drive by. Again, the seven of us don't have the power to do anything just driving by. Our zoning officer, our police department, they need to answer calls when there's nuisances and then they can take care of it. Now, those calls cannot be at 1:00 in the morning. That's not fair. That should not happen. You're calling the zoning officer and that's not fair. That can't happen. Call the borough building, leave a message, he'11 get back to you. Is the business open or are they just there? MS. AVVISATO: They have no idea. MR. NOTARI: If they're working. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: You said they're in there 1:00 in the morning? MR. TAGLIATERRA: They're coming in all hours of the night. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Did you call the police? MR. TAGLIATERRA: No, because it's constant. The cops came up last week to fine the kids for that motorcycle. The next 51 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 day I stopped at the beer distributor, 60 miles an hour they were going down Main Street. They don't care what you say. They don't care. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: If they're in there at 1:00 in the morning and you see them working, you have to call the police sO the police will come up and document it. If they're driving down Main Street on a quad the police have to see them to arrest them. MR. PETTINATO: I'm telling you, last Saturday night they were there after 10:00. MS. SWOREN: They're selling quads at 10:00 at night. CHIEF DUBERNAS: One of my guys did respond there 1:30, 2:00 in the morning, last week, two weeks ago. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Does the borough have enough incidents up there and reports to deem that place a nuisance property? CHIEF DUBERNAS: If you go back to February, yes, there's ten. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Then what's 52 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 the process? Bill, what's the process? ATTY. RINALDI: Chris has to send a letter. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Chris, send a letter, then. ATTY. RINALDI: If you look at that ordinance there's a whole process. He's got to give them the notice, they have time to cure it. It's a couple pages long. MR. PETTINATO: We're going to keep coming. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: You can come to any public meeting we have. MR. HOOVER: I want you to call the cops. Continue to do that. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: A17 right. Loreen Cummings? MS. CUMMINGS: I'm only here because I want to support all these people that have been calling and voicing their concerns and support for them. Also, to our friend that does have that building, because I understand he's very sickly. I think people are taking full advantage not only of their neighbors but of our friend that owns that 53 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 building, and that's upsetting to me. So, I mean, when you have people that all of you have known for sO many years that are being disrespected, cursed at in their own neighborhood by people who don't even belong here or live here, that's not good housekeeping and that's not a good neighbor and that's not a good business. It's aisrespectrur to our fel.low citizens of 01d Forge, and I know you all care about that because I know all of you as well. It think that if there was something that I could say for putting up with that kind of aggravation that you all are putting up with, I'm sO sorry that you're dealing with that because that's not right. Mrs. Sworen was cursed at and vulgar things they're doing to her. Mr. Leshinski and his wife were completely -- I C can't even say the things that were done to them. They have videos of these kids with the gestures at them. This is what they have to deal with in addition to all the problems they're having. I'm just hoping something can be done. 54 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 There was one thing that as someone that is sitting on the conservation board that I am concerned about, and that is something that I called the conservation board to have them come down and look at, which is the runoff from all those cars and everything. I mean, I'm trying to fight a rain tax coming here, and yet we have people that are putting us in a position that is going to bring us a rain tax because their oil is running down that road, transmission fluid, grease, every kind you can think of and going down to the Main Avenue, and this is the kind of thing that's going to get us into another tax for our residents. And that's not a responsible business owner. I'm all for business. I'd never want to shut a business down. But this is just irresponsible. These young people that are over there are really causing quite a hassle there, so I would appreciate anything you can do for our residents of 01d Forge. Thank you for hearing me. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: John Juroski? 55 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 MR. JUROSKI: The last meeting Lou Febbo and us and the owners talked. They had 30 days to clear this up. Okay? I talked to the owners two weeks ago and they told me to go F myself. Just try to clean your lot up and get your cars off the street, and I was told : that kid that was here last meeting, I was supposed to be the liaison officer and try to straighten this mess out, and I was told to go F myself. That we can do anything we want in this town. S said can you tell me what official told you that? I'm not going to tell you what official, but we were told we can do anything we want in this town. That's all I have to say. It became worse in 30 days. Supposed to improve in 30 days. It became a lot worse. We got guys getting arrested. The guy that owns the place doesn't even have a license. God, he lost his license. Thank you. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: You're welcome. Keith Leshinsk1? 56 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 MR. LESHINSKI: I seen a couple council members in the meantime. I'm the person that yous were talking about, probably that message, Chris, in the middle of the night. I did mention it to him. I felt comfortable doing it. I guess it was wrong, Chris. I won't message you on weekends or after hours again. Idid apologize to you for the things you were right about. What I do want to do up here is I want to : it was brought to my attention : and I did, but I didn't know so many feelings were hurt. I'm supposed to be an adult now, a man, and I'm growing into this. But everybody needs help once in a while. I live on my emotions. I'm passionate. We've been coming to you guys for a long time, and I know yous know that, and we've been coming with empty hands. Now we have facts. We have written down facts. And unless they're amended, written out or changed these are the rules and regulations for all of you and all of us to live by in this borough. Call the police, I've been 57 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 told. Call code. This is not a lie. Call code, I'm told call police. Okay? That's what we run into. I have an incident report where I was almost hit head-on by a quad coming up the alley provided to me by Chief Dubernas, thankfully, and gave me the report. But it was my word against his. So it was either me driving my very expensive car that I don't drive in the rain up this alley or him coming 65 miles an hour up the alley without looking. I C don't know who to believe, sO he didn't either. No one was cited. MR. NOTARI: Wait a second. No one was cited? Why wasn't somebody cited for driving a quad on a borough street? CHIEF DUBERNAS: That was Office Kimball. MR. LESHINSKI: Officer Kimball told me that if I don't keep quiet I'm going to be arrested, first of all, and then he -- I have the incident report if you want to read it. Not one was cited. He told me it's his word against mine. So I have a : never mind. The chief thinks I'm bragging. I 58 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 have a Lexus, my dream car, and I turn up an alley, and to think I'm going to drive 65 miles an hour up an alley head-on to a quad that's coming towards me, that's going to the garage that I've been complaining about for years. This kid was cited two days in a row. Two days in a row. First day he was identified by Joe and, I believe, by Officer Nick Dubernas. Second day, I have a video of him coming because I get phone calls. This is why I'm here. I get the phone call that he was just doing a wheelie up Moosic Road. Take a walk down to Butler Street, I wait with my phone, I turn my camera around, here he comes around the corner, just misses a car that's coming down the hill. Just misses it. And you can see the disdain : and that's a matter of opinion, my opinion : disdain in his face. The tickets that the police are writing on these cars on the street, I showed Officer Kimball that that Buick has two plates on it within a month. Showed him 59 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 both plates. They're switching plates. I don't want to say that they don't do their job, but they don't know that code. If they're saying there's a process to tow a car, that code suggests not. It suggests not. It's 72 hours. Your car, Russell. You forget your inspection, you forget to do your registration, it's parked in front of your house, an officer can tow it within 72 hours. Doesn't have to call code, doesn't have to call Harrisburg, doesn't have to take possession of a vehicle. C don't know where all that comes from. It's written in code. It was presented to you. You guys all have it. I don't know what number it is off the top of my head. And I used to come in and talk off the cuff, and I guess that's why my words just went up in the air, because here I am just speaking. Here it is in black and white. You have the codes in front of you. It think three years : and I know we've been up and down, back and forth with code enforcement and things. We've been patient, but we will be patient no longer, 60 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 and we're not going to stop this until it's rectified. And whatever needs to be deemed or whatever process that is, Chris, I hope it gets started today, please. MR. HART: It will. MR. - LESHINSKI: This place, it's not even Ronnie Coles, it's not Roy Williams. That's for darn sure. Jenny spoke up and said Ronnie's been there for as long as she's there and never a call. Now, chief got ten calls. He wrote it down. He handed me the piece of paper that since February, ten calls. A lot of them were from me because a lot of people don't want to get involved. But I thank God, and I'm really proud that these neighbors showed up today to show you that we're working and we're doing our investigation which should have been done before. I can remember meetings where everybody broke out our phones and we're trying to find it. There it is for yous. And, Chris, do you know if there have been any amendments or changes to that 61 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 code about towing a vehicle that's on the road without inspection, without registration? Chief, do you know? MR. NOTARI: There hasn't been. CHIEF DUBERNAS: The roadway's ours. MR. LESHINSKI: Is it the same as it was written? CHIEF DUBERNAS: Yes, but we also go by PennDOT salvage licenses because we take possession of people's vehicles. MR. LESHINSKI: That has nothing to do with it at all. They don't have a salvage license, do they? MR. HART: No, they have a dealer's license. MR. LESHINSKI: So they're selling vehicles? MR. HART: Hold on. I just spoke with them this morning and I told them to produce all their licenses that they claim they have to me by Friday. I also spoke with DEP this morning about the oil and DEP is coming out. This is what I'm saying. Things are being done. I understand you're impatient. I get it.