1  1 2 3 4  OLD FORGE BOROUGH COUNCIL OLD FORGE, PENNSYLVANIA  5 IN RE: REGULAR MEETING OF COUNCIL  6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19  JULY 27, 2021 7:00 P.M.  EAGLE MCCLURE HOSE COMPANY MILWAUKEE AVENUE OLD FORGE, PENNSYLVANIA  COUNCIL MEMBERS:  RUSSELL RINALDI, PRESIDENT RICK NOTARI, VICE-PRESIDENT MICHELLE AVVISATO MICHAEL LETTIERI MICHAEL KOMENSKY ROBERT LEGG, MAYOR  20 JAMES HOOVER  21  22 WILLIAM RINALDI, ESQUIRE, SOLICITOR MARYLYNN BARTOLETTI, BOROUGH MANAGER  23 24 25  Mark Wozniak Official Court Reporter    2  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Good evening,  ladies and gentlemen. I'd like to start the meeting with the Pledge of Allegiance.  (The Pledge of Allegiance was  recited.)  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Roll call,  please, Marylynn.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilwoman  Avvisato?  MS. AVVISATO: Here.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Febbo is  absent. Councilman Hoover?  MR. HOOVER: Present. MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman  Komensky?  MR. KOMENSKY: Here. MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman  Lettieri?  MR. LETTIERI: Present.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Notari?  MR. NOTARI: Present.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Rinaldi? MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Here. Welcome  to - the 01d Forge Borough meeting. Today is Tuesday, July 27th. The purpose of    3  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  tonight's meeting is to go through some of our nousekeeping motions and go through our agenda. We'17 hear reports from our department heads. There's a public sign-in sheet the chief has if anyone from the audience or public would like to speak.  The list is a little bit long this  evening, so you're going to be timed on a five-minute timer. When you start speaking we'1l start the timer sO we can give everyone enough time to speak. If anyone didn't sign in and would like to the sheet  is at the chief's desk.  With that being said, we're going to  go through some of our housekeeping motions. Our first motion on the list is motion to approve the minutes from the prior meeting.  MR. NOTARI: I'11 make the motion. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: By Councilman  Notari.  MR. LETTIERI: Second.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Seconded by  Councilman Lettieri. On the question? Public input? Roll call, please.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilwoman    4  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  Avvisato?  MS. AVVISATO: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Hoover?  MR. HOOVER: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman  Komensky?  MR. KOMENSKY: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman  Lettieri?  MR. LETTIERI: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Notari?  MR. NOTARI: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Rinaldi? MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Yes. Our  second item under housekeeping is a motion to approve the treasurer reports. Please note this does not include the sewer  account.  MR. NOTARI: I'17 make that motion. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: By Councilman  Notari.  MS. AVVISATO: I'17 second that. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Seconded by  Councilwoman Avvisato. On the question? Public input? Ro1l call, please.    5  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilwoman  Avvisato?  MS. AVVISATO: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Hoover?  MR. HOOVER: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman  Komensky?  MR. KOMENSKY: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman  Lettieri?  MR. LETTIERI: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Notari?  MR. NOTARI: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Rinaldi? MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Yes. Our  third item under housekeeping is motion to approve invoices for payment. Once again, please note this does not include the sewer  account.  MR. NOTARI: I'11 make that motion. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: By Councilman  Notari.  MR. HOOVER: I'17 second it. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Seconded by  Councilman Hoover. On the question? Public    6  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  input? Roll call, please.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilwoman  Avvisato?  MS. AVVISATO: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Hoover?  MR. HOOVER: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman  Komensky?  MR. KOMENSKY: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman  Lettieri?  MR. LETTIERI: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Notari?  MR. NOTARI: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Rinaldi? MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Yes. The  fourth item is a motion to approve the sewer  department financial report.  MR. NOTARI: I'17 make that motion. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: By Councilman  Notari.  MR. KOMENSKY: I'11 second it. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Seconded by  Councilman Komensky. On the question? Public input? Roll call, please.    7  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilwoman  Avvisato?  MS. AVVISATO: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Hoover?  MR. HOOVER: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman  Komensky?  MR. KOMENSKY: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman  Lettieri?  MR. LETTIERI: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Notari?  MR. NOTARI: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Rinaldi? MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Yes. Last  item under housekeeping is motion to approve sewer department invoices for payment.  MR. NOTARI: I'17 make that motion. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: By Councilman  Notari.  MR. LETTIERI: I'17 second that. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Seconded by  Councilman Lettieri. On the question? Public input? Roll call, please.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilwoman    8  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  Avvisato?  MS. AVVISATO: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Hoover?  MR. HOOVER: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman  Komensky?  MR. KOMENSKY: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman  Lettieri?  MR. LETTIERI: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Notari?  MR. NOTARI: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Rinaldi? MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Yes. We'11 go  to some of our department heads. Council has the DPW manager's report, Joe Lenceski. Does anybody have any questions for Joe? Joe, do you have anything else for us?  MR. LENCESKI: No, I don't. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Anybody have  any questions for Joe?  MR. NOTARI: One question. Marion  Street park, we're responsible for cutting the grass and the weeds and taking care of  that park. Right?    9  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MR. LENCESKI: Correct.  MR. NOTARI: Take a look tomorrow  and see if everything is getting done properly. There seems to be a little overgrowth along the edges. I noticed that at Pagnotti a couple weeks ago, too. Take a  look. Thank you.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Anyone else  have any questions for Joe?  MR. HOOVER: Joe, I want to get  together with you for that paving list.  MR. LENCESKI: Great.  MR. HOOVER: Couple streets. Give  them to Dave during the week.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Anyone else?  Thanks, Joe. Chris Hart, code  enforcement/zoning officer. Everyone has his report. Anyone have any questions for  him? Anything for us, Chris?  MR. HART: Nothing.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Thank you.  Dave Lopatka, engineer's report, we have it. Anything to add or anything else for us?  MR. LOPATKA: No.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Anybody have    10  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  any questions for Dave?  MR. NOTARI: Yeah. Mid-July has  passed.  MR. LOPATKA: It has. Still the big  issue is the blue stone. We're kind of waiting for it. There's been a couple minor changes, too, that we're looking at. Some work, maybe, on the front of the senior center, some windows, redoing the brick out there sO everything looks uniform across the front. A lot of the inside is done. A lot.  The floors are down.  MR. NOTARI: It looks good. MR. LOPATKA: And the elevator is  progressing. A11 windows are in there, the elevator's in. Hopefully trying to get finished up as soon as we can get the blue  stone.  MR. NOTARI: I have some questions.  Marylynn has a handle on it. I'11 let her deal with you during the daytime hours. Can you give me a new date? September 1st?  October 1st?  MR. LOPATKA: I'm hoping by  September 1st. I'17 see what I can verify    11  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  through the contractor. See if they heard anything on the blue stone. That's really the big key right now. A lot of the inside is just cosmetic stuff and the outside a  little bit.  MR. NOTARI: Are we paving the back  parking lot?  MR. LOPATKA: Yes. MS. BARTOLETTI: Tomorrow. MR. NOTARI: There's no chance of  there being a gas tank there, is there?  MR. LOPATKA: We're only milling. MR. HOOVER: There's a couple  streets I want to go over with Joe for paving. I'11 let you know. Maybe by the next meeting. How do we feel about doing a  paving program this year?  MR. NOTARI: I'm in.  MS. AVVISATO: I'm definitely in. MR. HOOVER: We have to do something  with Dunn Avenue. That's a mess. It's going to be a lot. We have to do it soon.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Do we have  enough time?  MR. LOPATKA: We can see. There's a    12  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  lot of guys busy. Now's the time where  they're crunching.  MR. HOOVER: Even if we get the bid  together and bid it in January for next  year.  MR. LOPATKA: That's the best time.  Most of them are looking. Now a lot of them  are stacked up.  MS. BARTOLETTI: If we do it that  way you can add on next year's money as  well.  MR. HOOVER: Let's get the streets  we have straigntened out.  MR. LOPATKA: That's probably best  option. You get the best price and the most  done for the money.  MR. HOOVER: Saint Lawrence's  Church, I want you to look at the floor upstairs. Can we do that now?  MR. LOPATKA: We can take a look at  it. - I had the bottom floor surveyed. I have a map of the floor plan. If you guys were looking to rent a portion of that we should probably use this map to understand exactly what you're renting out out of the    13  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  bottom floor.  MR. NOTARI: I believe we're renting  out the entire basement. Correct?  MR. HOOVER: Yes.  ATTY. RINALDI: No, exclusive of the  mechanicals and the kitchen.  MR. NOTARI: The kitchen's part of  it, isn't it?  ATTY. RINALDI: The kitchen is part  of it.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Anyone else  have anything for Dave? Anything else,  Dave?  MR. LOPATKA: No.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Thank you.  Police report. Chief Dubernas, anything  else?  CHIEF DUBERNAS: No. The only thing  is the no parking signs for South Main  Street.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: For the agenda  this evening?  CHIEF DUBERNAS: Yes.  MS. AVVISATO: That's near the 01d  Forge Pharmacy?    14  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  CHIEF DUBERNAS: The other one is  1100 block. That's the one from PennDOT that they said as long as it's approved by  council.  MR. HOOVER: Chief, did we do that  report on Church Street?  CHIEF DUBERNAS: I was talking to  Councilman Notari earlier about it. I had a couple issues with him. I'11 have it done  for the next one.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Anything else? CHIEF DUBERNAS: That's it. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Anyone else  have anything for the chief?  MR. NOTARI: About a month or two  ago, maybe even earlier, you talked about getting with the civil service commission  regarding  CHIEF DUBERNAS: Spoke with attorney  Solfanelli. He has everything done for entry officer level. He's working on the promotional part. It's part of the civil service. Again, I'd like to have an executive for maybe two, three minutes  afterwards.    15  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Anyone else?  Thanks, Chief. Bill Stull, fire chief  report.  MR. STULL: Everything's in the  report that I sent to council.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Anything to  add?  MR. STULL: No.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Anybody have  any questions for Assistant Chief Stull?  Thanks, Bill.  Attorney Rinaldi, solicitor's  report. Anything?  ATTY. RINALDI: The only new item :  two new items. One, I drafted a resolution authorizing the borough of 01d Forge to enter into a shutoff agreement with  Pennsylvania American Water. I didn't know if you were going to consider that tonight. Idid review that agreement and there's still parts that need to be revised for the  borough.  If you're going to do no parking  it's got to be an ordinance. So we need to advertise and pass that. It's something you    16  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  can't do tonight. We can probably do that  at the next meeting.  MR. HOOVER: Everybody get the  shutoff notice that I sent?  MR. NOTARI: Yes. The sewer  committee met yesterday, myself and Councilman Komensky and Marylynn.  Councilman Febbo couldn't make it. There were some things that we came up with that we'd like to discuss maybe after in  executive, since we got caught up early, and t think that would be part of it. So if we can wait on the shutoff we'11 do it next  month.  MR. HOOVER: That's fine.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Bill, anything  else?  ATTY. RINALDI: No, that's it. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Anyone else  have anything for the attorney? Thanks,  Bill.  Marylynn, borough manager's report.  Anything to add?  MS. BARTOLETTI: The first question  h have is does anyone need any information    17  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  on any of our financial reports? No  questions? Okay.  What I'd like to do is set up  interviews for the administrative position that we'11 be hiring. So I think, Russell, you have to name a person to the personnel committee. So once you do that, maybe we can get a meeting together on that.  We received a $25,000 grant from  LLVSA to our sewer department. We received $413,000 for our first payment of the American Rescue Plan funding.  We have to sign the lease agreement  with Head Start.  On the agenda there's another  request from Ted Giglio to close Ali Rosa, the alley, for a party that they have every year. It's just for a couple hours. So you  have to vote on that.  And just one other thing. I'd like  tos see if we can discuss with the chief several years ago we discussed the parking situation at the intersection of Oak Street and Marion. When you try to pull out from Marion onto Oak the sight line is very bad.    18  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  I 1 think we could take a look at that. Maybe Jay could do something with that and maybe we can vote on that at the next meeting.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Are you  thinking about reducing the : making the  line of sight Tonger?  MS. BARTOLETTI: Especially when the  cars are parked almost to the corner. It's basically impossible to pull out there.  MR. NOTARI: I believe we did a  study years ago. Correct?  MS. BARTOLETTI: Yes, but we never  did anything about it.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Chief, I know  we probably echoed it just in conversation in the past. What would be the proper procedure if we wanted to contact or discuss with PennDOT a possible street light there?  CHIEF DUBERNAS: That's a state  roadway.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: But would you  contact them or would he contact them?  MR. NOTARI: I think it's a good  idea.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Maybe a    19  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  possible street light there is good with the school being sO close. A lot of traffic  with the kids, buses.  MR. NOTARI: Even if it was a  blinker light.  MS. AVVISATO: That's a good idea. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: If we can  contact them and at least get the  conversation started with them, get their thoughts on it and let them know what our next move would be if they would request something from us. Anything else?  MS. BARTOLETTI: No.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Anyone have  any questions for the borough manager?  MS. BARTOLETTI: The TSE invoices  are on the agenda.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Anybody else  have any questions for Marylynn? Thanks, Mare. We'17 go down the table, see if anyone has anything to report on. Mayor  Legg?  MAYOR LEGG: Nothing right now. I  have something for executive session.  MR. NOTARI: I have a few things.    20  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  Have we made any progress with the water problem in front of the Anastassi house on Hoover Street? Were we ever going to do anything with the puddle right in front of their sidewalk every time it rains?  MR. LENCESKI: I have the prices  that I gave you guys last week. As Tong as everyone is okay we can move forward. It's  in last month's report.  MR. NOTARI: It was that and the : MR. LENCESKI: If you want to talk  in executive session.  MR. NOTARI: Okay, we can talk about  it in executive, I guess. My next thing is b believe we all received e-mail from the gentleman that runs the food pantry at Saint Michael's Church over on Winter Street. I e-mailed him. He was looking for help from the borough. Really, he was looking for space. He said it kind of outgrew where they were and they have a lack of volunteers. I don't believe we have any  space to help them.  When I returned the e-mail to the  gentleman, he e-mailed me back maybe a week    21  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  later and said -- I e-mailed him some suggestions, and he said they followed through on those suggestions and they were not of help and that they were probably going to close down August 3rd. That was  going to be the last time.  He mentioned that the food pantry  serves 01d Forge, Taylor, Duryea, and that, for lack of a better word, business was increasing and they figured it would continue to increase. But they just didn't have the manpower or the wherewithal to  continue at Saint Michael's.  So I still don't have an answer for  them. I don't know how the borough can help them. But with such a large public crowd here tonight I'm hoping maybe word can get out and that someone or somewhere would agree to host this food pantry and find some volunteers for it. It's a big thing in our community and something that's needed, and it's going to be a shame if it goes away.  My third thing is I e-mailed council  Sunday night. The National Fitness Court is a project throughout the country which is a    22  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  fitness area that they put in parks. Most of these parks are in the west and southeast. There are two in Pennsylvania close to university hubs. We would be the third -- the only community in the northeast to host this fitness court if we were able  to raise the funds.  How it works is the National Fitness  Foundation comes up with a grant which they have approved for us for $30,000. If we were to match that grant, they would then go ahead and seek out the rest of the funds to complete this area. It would go at the Marion Street park. It would be a great feather, I think, in the park system's cap here in 01d Forge. It would help with the school district, I believe, in their physical education curriculum. It's a pretty neat thing. I've talked to some of the other members of our community and they're very interested in us pursuing this.  Iw will bring a motion to the floor  tonight to see if the borough will commit $30,000 to match that grant sO the process can begin on raising the funds. It's a    23  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  $180,000 project.  One of the caveats of the project is  that, yes, we commit a match, but if we're not able to raise the funds to complete the project, then that money doesn't go anywhere. We keep that money. We would just loose the grant, they would move on to  a different community.  Our community's changing a lot, it's  growing in different ways, and I think something different would be a nice addition for the borough of 01d Forge. So I'm hoping for support on that later in the meeting.  That's all I have. Thank you.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Councilman  Lettieri?  MR. LETTIERI: I'm fine at this  time.  MR. KOMENSKY: Nothing at this time. MS. AVVISATO: I have nothing, Mr.  Chairman.  MR. HOOVER: I'm good.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: I have nothing  either until we get into new business. But before that we're going to go to public    24  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  comment, and first up would be Robert  Hughes.  MR. HUGHES: Good evening, Council.  come before you tonight to tell you that I'd like to know what your zoning officer does. He has a car, you pay for his gas. I'd like to know what he does every day of the week because you got a deplorable property on Main Avenue that's outrageous. You got a camper, a car, weeds growing over the top of the car, you got rats, possums. You name it, it's there. My cousin has to live with that situation. He's right next  door.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Did you notify  the zoning officer about it?  MR. HUGHES: No. Can't the zoning  officer see what's going on?  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Are you aware  of it?  MR. HART: I'm aware of it. It's  been an ongoing issue for five years now. It's right on Main Street. The palm reader.  MR. HUGHES: Look at the camper.  That's deplorable.    25  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MR. HART: It's been an ongoing  issue for five years now. I - have reports and records from the magistrate's office from when Steve Bieryla was in, when Paul Papi was there. You can ask anybody, I've been trying to locate the owner. Every single record that I have reports back to that address, that house. I'm hearing that they live in Jersey. I checked tax records. It all comes back to that address.  Right now : and I was just talking  to the chief about it. I'm trying to find a way that I can actually locate these people so we can actually send them a certified letter and do something about it. It's not like there's nothing getting done. There's stuff in the works. But I'm in two months and I can't do it overnight. It's been an  ongoing issue for five years.  These people, nobody can find them.  The last name is Miller on it. Every single record and report that I have reports back to the Main Street address. So unless we do something to go down and clean the property up, do something like that, the only option    26  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  is to find the guy and move forward.  MR. HOOVER: Can we do minimal work  down there just to cut the grass and cut the  weeds?  ATTY. RINALDI: No.  MR. NOTARI: You're on private  property.  MR. HART: Everybody's saying the  guy lives in New Jersey. I have three different numbers. Not one of them goes  through.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Bill, if he  can't locate anybody?  ATTY. RINALDI: Call me.  MR. NOTARI: Shouldn't our first  step be a certified letter?  MR. HART: The only address I have  is that one.  MR. NOTARI: But my thought is if we  start the process and we don't receive anything, can we then declare it a nuisance property or an unlivable property?  MR. HART: The process had been  started years ago. There were certified letters already sent to that address from    27  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  Steve. I have all the old reports and files, but literally it went nowhere.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Contact Bill  or Bill contact you tomorrow and let's start  the process again.  MR. HART: There's multiple  properties in town with the same situation. We have landlords in New York and New Jersey. I can send a hundred letters. They don't respond, they don't do anything. There has to be a solution. I'm taking all the heat for not doing anything, but in all reality it's been going on for years. I'm here two months and I'm already aware of them and already sending letters, but we  haven't been getting answers.  MR. NOTARI: We're going to change  that, hopefully.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Get with Bill  and let's see if Bill can locate them or get a certified letter, start the process.  MR. HART: There's files dating back  seven years now. I'm going to court hearings that are 11-year issues. I'm here two months. At the end of the day the heat    28  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  all comes back on me.  MR. HUGHES: I'd like to know what's  going on with the Stocki property.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: As far as  what, Bob?  MR. HUGHES: Well, the machinery's  being all moved up on Keyser Avenue now and there's still machinery back where his property is. It's unbelievable.  MR. HOOVER: We know.  MR. HUGHES: Well, what are you  doing about it?  ATTY. RINALDI: On the property next  door there's a couple cases now at the magistrate. We didn't get a date yet. They  filed.  MR. HUGHES: What about moving them  big machines up in Keyser Avenue? Who gave  him permission to do that?  ATTY. RINALDI: That's what I'm  talking about.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Thanks, Bob.  Dave Marhelski?  MR. MARHELSKI: I'm just wondering  if council came up with any kind of    29  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  resolution or your borough engineer about the drainage on Mowry, Lori and Kelly Drive where the water comes down. It pools across the street to Mucciolo's. It's a disaster waiting to happen. It's like a lake. The drain's on the other side of the street. We  have no storm drains up there.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: We'11 send  Dave there this week to take a look at it.  MR. MARHELSKI: Who's responsible  for the road going up to the cemetery, Saint  Stan's, on Mine Street?  MS. BARTOLETTI: Part of it is the  diocese.  MR. MARHELSKI: The borough used to  take care of that road. They paved it.  MS. BARTOLETTI: I don't know that  the borough paved it.  MR. MARHELSKI: Might be before your  time. I remember the borough paved that road. The borough used to plow that road.  MS. BARTOLETTI: After there was a  collapse of that large pipe and we checked into it and it was owned by the diocese.  MR. MARHELSKI: Well, they said    30  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  that's Ransom's problem. That's not Ransom. That's still 01d Forge. Nobody wanted to take responsibility for it. The gentleman here at the firehouse took responsibility for it. He went up and fixed it.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: What's wrong  with the road?  MR. MARHELSKI: I - just want to know  who maintains it, who plows it.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Bill, could  you find out if we own that road?  ATTY. RINALDI: Marylynn asked about  this. It's diocese property.  MR. MARHELSKI: Also, coming down  Mowry Street, I don't know if it's borough's responsibility or state for the property. If you're looking south you can't see the cars coming up. A1l the trees are coming up  over the road there.  CHIEF DUBERNAS: It's 1204-1206  Mowry. I have the phone number for the  management company.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: We'11 have  Chris give them a call. George Harris?  MR. HARRIS: Now he has the property    31  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  on the other side. Mark Barrett owns that one. He's a local kid. His bushes are up to my second floor window. They can only be six feet. I'm five foot. They're towering over me. I can't walk through my sidewalk in the back because they're all hanging  over.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Do you have  the address for him?  MR. HARRIS: Mine is 839.  MS. AVVISATO: The corner of West  Morton.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: We'11 have him  give him a call.  MR. HART: The problem is if I don't  take these people by their hand and stand there with them, unfortunately, it doesn't get done. I reach out to these people, I send them letters, I talk to them.  MR. NOTARI: After the second excuse  you cite them, period.  MR. HARRIS: I love I have no  neighbors, but they're the biggest pains in the asses going. The worst people in the world. I just want it taken care of.    32  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: We'11 have him  contact them. Mary Piragas?  MS. PIRAGAS: So I'm here to request  permission to block off the road again this year for our community block party.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Same thing as  last year?  MS. PIRAGAS: Yeah, Reilly Street  between McClure and just the alley before Sibley. The date this year is going to be August 14th from about 1:00 until about 9  p.m.  MR. NOTARI: Chief, did we have any  problems doing that last year?  CHIEF DUBERNAS: No. I think last  year they blocked Reilly at Sibley to stop everybody from coming in. Right?  MS. PIRAGAS: No, because we did  block the alley. You could come in from Sibley and make a left or a right on the alleyway. It was the alleyway we blocked.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: We'11 put it  on the agenda tonight.  MS. PIRAGAS: We just heard last  night that sometimes the fire department    33  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  will do a drive by for events like this.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Right there.  Mrs. Wilk?  MS. WILK: I'd like to thank council  that voted, Ms. Avvisato, Mr. Hoover and Mr. Notari, against the tower that was being put up. And I'd like to thank the mayor for beaking the tie. Prior to that meeting Verizon was at that property and they did put a tower up. Right across the street from this lady's house. She saw it.  I don't know how legal that is. It  was never approved. It was shot down. But the tower is up there. Prior to them coming to the meeting when you guys were going to  vote on this --  MS. AVVISATO: They can't. It's a  residential.  MR. LETTIERI: I don't think that  was Verizon.  MR. HOOVER: It's on the existing  property that they own. They can do that on their existing property. It's a hundred  feet in the air.  MS. WILK: Mariotti's the one that    34  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  owns it. Here's some information.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: They could not  have constructed a tower that fast. Is that  right next to the power plant?  MR. LETTIERI: That's a small one. MS. AVVISATO: That's not Verizon. MR. NOTARI: That's PPL.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: That's been  there for a while.  MS. WILK: They're coming back an  they're going to try to put the tower up again. There's a history right there on the  towers and secondary radiation.  MS. SHELSKI: My daughter called the  cancer bureau and they said that that kind of tower could cause cancer and that tower should not be placed in an environment where there's sO much community. The school is right there. The kids are going to be affected by that tower, let alone us, the people that live there. That tower should  not be there.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Are you  talking about the tower that's currently  there?    35  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MR. LETTIERI: That's from PPL. MR. HART: I'17 go there this week  and look. It's PPL property. They had a right to do what they were doing in the past  on it.  MS. SHELSKI: I had a contractor   was sitting on my porch. I guess they were putting the tower up. He was walking around and he was taking pictures of my house, and I called him over and said why are you taking pictures of my house? He  never did answer me.  MS. AVVISATO: That's not Verizon. MS. SHELSKI: He said that they're  going to start -- I asked him when are you going to put this tower up but it was there. The trees were in the way and I didn't really see it. He said we're going to start in the spring. We have to go to the lawyers and the bureau and what not, then it will be up. I said I want to get to the meetings, May 25th, whatever, but I can't go. I called four people, I can't get there. He said if you vote for me I'17 take you.  MS. WILK: They were sitting in the    36  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  corner, the guy from Verizon. You guys didn't even get the motion. He sat there very brazen in the corner with his little plaque, and he stated oh, I will be back to get a variance from PPL. I - already talked to them. It should be in one of your  meetings.  MS. AVVISATO: I think the vote was  no.  MS.  WILK: This is prior to.  MS. AVVISATO: How could they put it  on if we voted no?  MR. NOTARI: Two different  properties.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: We're going to  have Chris contact PPL because it's on their property. We're going to have PPL give us the information on it. Anything else?  MS. WILK: No.  MS. SHELSKI: That's about it. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Louis  Pettinato?  MR. PETTINATO: John's handing out  some summaries. We'17 have pictures and then comments that we signed. I want to ask    37  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  Mr. Hart where are we at with the property at the intersection of Butler and Main?  MR. HART: That's the zoning  solicitor here. We were speaking about it before. There is a process we can take. There's things in motion right now with the police department, with myself and everything. Like we said every other meeting, things can't happen overnight and we can't just walk in there and lock the doors, board the windows up and eliminate the garage completely. There's a process that we have to take. We all spoke prior to  this.  MR. PETTINATO: Our feeling is we  believe the property is a nuisance property. We believe that there's several areas of violation of 01d Forge codes. We've looked through them. John presented them. Those will be parking. Patti will present pictures of vehicles on the property from July 3rd to July 13th. Expired inspection sticker. That's clearly a violation. It was on the street for longer than 72 hours. The street's not supposed to be used for    38  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  parking for vehicles awaiting repair, that I  know of.  Looking at all the cars that are  always parked in the lot, such that there's, again, cars parked on the street awaiting repair, sometimes cars parked on the  Domino's property. There's no way for there to be required number of parking spaces, which is one for every 200 square feet of interior floor space. There's no way to have enough parking spaces, which each have to be ten by 18 or 180 square feet.  And if you look at the pictures we  presented over the years, whether it's on cell phones or actual pictures that we'1l hand in at the end that you can look, there's no way for there to be adequate ingress and egress, which is, to my knowledge, another code. Again, no way to have the proper number of parking spaces. Again, the street's not supposed to be used for parking while the vehicles await repair,  that I know of.  So area, prohibited use of  recreational vehicles. Our neighbors are    39  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  here and will state that they've seen recreational vehicles operating out of the property, speeding up and down Butler Street, operating in an unsafe manner. On or around July 15th they did a thunder run of sorts. Some individuals on quads down Main Street, my understanding. Joe, you saw people right before and after, leaving and coming back. You signed a statement. George, you've seen them going up and down. That's clearly a violation of code.  The next would be health and safety.  For example, codes say that drainage cannot be directed off site without adequate treatment of oils and fuel. We have pictures of cars leaking oil. Again, cars parked, awaiting repair, leaking oil. There's another picture of one of the occupants washing his quad with the water going own Main Street. We feel that not only is it a Violation, it's a safety issue.  Finally, a few other things. With  respect to the parking, they're supposed to not have vehicles parked within 25 feet of a residential property. Now, there's no    40  screen there, as there should be. That kind of a business is supposed to have either screening or fencing. George, they're parked right up to your property. Correct?  2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MR. SWOREN: About three inches from  my wall.  MR. PETTINATO: That has to be a  violation.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Are they  blocking your driveway? Did you call the police? Was the car blocking when the  police got there?  UNKNOWN SPEAKER: They move by the  time they get up there.  MR. PETTINATO: How many properties  in 01d Forge that are in question like this? We would like to have and expect people on council and Chris to drive by and make note of it. It seems like it's up to us all the time to do this research and come up with  this.  By the way, with respect to  nuisance, how late can they be open at  night?  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: It's 8 p.m.    41  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  Correct, Bill?  ATTY. RINALDI: I - think it's a ten  or 11.  MR. HART: Their business hours are  eight to five. I get calls from people 1:00 in the morning, 12:00 at night. I'm aware of all these situations. Things are being done, but once again, they can't happen  overnight.  MR. PETTINATO: These are the  reasons we feel this is a nuisance property. They define nuisance property as a property that causes annoyance or discomfort to persons beyond the boundaries of the  property.  MS. AVVISATO: Are they doing work  at that time?  MR. PETTINATO: I believe they are. MS. SWOREN: Chris will come up.  Chris has been there a couple times. They stop, the cops will leave, and then they get on their quads and they'11 rev the quads out in the parking lot. We have new neighbors,  a baby. Poor people.  MR. PETTINATO: These are the    42  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  reasons we feel this is a nuisance property. This has been three years now, and we're prepared to keep coming and to do whatever we need to do to take further action until  this gets remedied.  There is a myth I want to clear up.  A statement has been made. One of the occupants made it. I hope nobody up here coached him to say that. That we, the residents of the hill, as we call it, don't want any sort of business there. That's  false. That's false.  The proof of that is nobody ever  complained when Roy Williams was there because he was a good neighbor. We do expect a business to be a good neighbor. We know 01d Forge needs businesses to be successful, but we expect a business to be a good neighbor. Not to present a hazard. She'17 show pictures of a BMW without doors. Junk vehicles. Those are all in the code  defined as hazards.  MS. LESHINSKI: What is the  business? Is it dismantling? Is it a quad shop? Is it sales? What kind of business    43  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  is it? There's all kinds of things going on under that roof and we don't know. What is  the business operating as?  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: What type of  business is it?  MS. LESHINSKI: Is it an auto repair  shop or a quad shop or both? They're dismantling vehicles there. There's nothing that comes in or out of those doors that aren't in pieces or parts. Nothing ever drives in or out unless it's on the back of  another truck.  MR. PETTINATO: Sometimes they're  not there all day, until later, so I'm wondering how are all these cars parked in the parking lot and when are they working on them? I can't make an accusation, but just  logically think about it.  MR HOOVER: This is a C-1?  MR. HART: Yes.  MR. PETTINATO: So they don't have  adequate fencing, no ingress and egress that's proper because the parking lot's jammed most of the time. There's not enough parking spaces. They're parked on the    44  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  street. That has to be a violation. At what point do we not declare this a nuisance. At some point something bad is going to happen because they don't seem to care about the neighbors. Neither did Ronnie. But nobody decided to pick on them,  nobody decided to pick on Ronnie.  We're at the point where we'11 take  it to wherever we have to to get it remedied. It's become that frustrating.  Everybody knows that.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Chief,  according to what he's stating what would  fall under nuisance?  CHIEF DUBERNAS: It depends on how  many times we're there. We've been there multiple times, multiple tickets.  MR. PETTINATO: The chief was kind  enough, he did an incident report. But there's been ten phone calls between the operation of the quads, there's trucks parked -- I called myself. There were pickup trucks full of junk parked facing up the hill on the wrong side. Ten phone calls for February. How much do we need before    45  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  it's declared a nuisance?  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: That's what  I'm asking the chief.  CHIEF DUBERNAS: He called multiple  times. There's multiple tickets been issued. We just had an arrest out of there.  We've been proactive towards it.  MR. HOOVER: It says annoyance or  discomfort to persons beyond the boundaries of that property. Are they doing that?  CHIEF DUBERNAS: With the ATVs : MR. HOOVER: Yes or no?  CHIEF DUBERNAS: We never had issues  there with the ATVs. It's always been away from there, coming there. The incident we  had was on Main Street.  MR. HOOVER: Annoyance or discomfort  to persons beyond the boundaries of that property. I'm going to say yes.  Interference with the health, safety  and welfare of persons beyond the boundaries  of that property.  CHIEF DUBERNAS: That's what we just  had an arrest for.  MR. HOOVER: Disturbance or    46  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  interference with the peaceful use of property of others within the borough. I think it's kind of cut and dry, if you ask me. Like Mr. Pettinato said, I'd hate to have a business in 01d Forge be a nuisance property, but if he's not following the rules and not following the regulations something has to be done. We can't have the residents coming here every meeting for the last four years that I'm here, and it's the same as the other problem that we have.  That's the way I feel.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Bill, legally  the property's deemed a nuisance. What's  the action we take against it?  ATTY. RINALDI: The chief : well,  it's an ordinance. The chief can file.  CHIEF DUBERNAS: Under the  ordinance :  MR. PETTINATO: This is similar to  years ago under Ronnie again.  MS. AVVISATO: Seems like it's more  congested now.  MR. PETTINATO: It's gotten worse. MR. NOTARI: Can I ask a question of    47  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  the neighbors? Whenever you've called the  police have they come?  MR. PETTINATO: Yes.  MR. NOTARI: And every time they  come is it all the sudden everything's fixed? In terms of Mr. Sworen, you said they were in front of your driveway and by the time the cops got there they were gone. This picture here where there's a car blocking the alley and a car parked the wrong way on a road, when the police were called were they gone? Did you call the  police?  MR. JUROSKI: I C didn't want to  bother the police. They got more important  things.  MR. NOTARI: Here's the thing.  There are not more important things to do. If you call the police and tell them there is a nuisance - if you don't, Mr. Juroski, there's nothing we can do. You need to build nuisances over and over. I understand  the frustration but :  MR. PETTINATO: It's time.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Chief, again,    48  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  what does it take to declare that property a nuisance? Or bill? One of you tell me. What does it take to declare it a nuisance?  ATTY. RINALDI: There's a process  the zoning officer has to go through and notify them. Chief, there's no parking on  the street. Right?  CHIEF DUBERNAS: Going up the hill  there's no parking. Coming down you could.  MR. PETTINATO: I did call once  because one of their vehicles : again, I don't think : somebody tell me. Are you supposed to use the street to store  vehicles?  ATTY. RINALDI: No. That's why we  fined Ron Coles.  MR. PETTINATO: I - called once  because they actually had one of their vehicles parked past the no parking sign. And especially in the winter when it's icy. It's bad enough in normal conditions pulling  out of there.  So I think the time has come, in my  opinion and our opinion.  MS. SWOREN: I went down and spoke    49  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  with them. They said they were going to put an inspection place in, they were only going to work on cars. That was lovely. Ronnie did the same thing. The cars in that lot, if you come up our street, by our driveway there's a green one and white one that have been there since November. No windows, everything shoved inside. There's a pickup truck filled with garbage that stays they throw the garbage in. Stacked tires. They  don't care.  MR. PETTINATO: We expect you guys  to ride around. You see it.  MR. NOTARI: Yes. I understand  that. Believe me, I drive by, too.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: We've all  driven by there.  MR. NOTARI: For whatever reason,  when I drive by everything seems to be in order. I guess I go by at the wrong time. I've been told they parked up to the stop sign and every time I drive by they're not. I've been told they park on the sidewalk, and I see it here in the pictures, but when I drive by there's nothing. So like I said,    50  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  I have to change the times I drive by.  Again, the seven of us don't have  the power to do anything just driving by. Our zoning officer, our police department, they need to answer calls when there's nuisances and then they can take care of it. Now, those calls cannot be at 1:00 in the morning. That's not fair. That should not happen. You're calling the zoning officer and that's not fair. That can't happen. Call the borough building, leave a message,  he'11 get back to you.  Is the business open or are they  just there?  MS. AVVISATO: They have no idea. MR. NOTARI: If they're working. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: You said  they're in there 1:00 in the morning?  MR. TAGLIATERRA: They're coming in  all hours of the night.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Did you call  the police?  MR. TAGLIATERRA: No, because it's  constant. The cops came up last week to fine the kids for that motorcycle. The next    51  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  day I stopped at the beer distributor, 60 miles an hour they were going down Main Street. They don't care what you say. They  don't care.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: If they're in  there at 1:00 in the morning and you see them working, you have to call the police sO the police will come up and document it. If they're driving down Main Street on a quad the police have to see them to arrest them.  MR. PETTINATO: I'm telling you,  last Saturday night they were there after  10:00.  MS. SWOREN: They're selling quads  at 10:00 at night.  CHIEF DUBERNAS: One of my guys did  respond there 1:30, 2:00 in the morning,  last week, two weeks ago.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Does the  borough have enough incidents up there and reports to deem that place a nuisance  property?  CHIEF DUBERNAS: If you go back to  February, yes, there's ten.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Then what's    52  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  the process? Bill, what's the process?  ATTY. RINALDI: Chris has to send a  letter.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Chris, send a  letter, then.  ATTY. RINALDI: If you look at that  ordinance there's a whole process. He's got to give them the notice, they have time to cure it. It's a couple pages long.  MR. PETTINATO: We're going to keep  coming.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: You can come  to any public meeting we have.  MR. HOOVER: I want you to call the  cops. Continue to do that.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: A17 right.  Loreen Cummings?  MS. CUMMINGS: I'm only here because  I want to support all these people that have been calling and voicing their concerns and support for them. Also, to our friend that does have that building, because I  understand he's very sickly. I think people are taking full advantage not only of their neighbors but of our friend that owns that    53  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  building, and that's upsetting to me.  So, I mean, when you have people  that all of you have known for sO many years that are being disrespected, cursed at in their own neighborhood by people who don't even belong here or live here, that's not good housekeeping and that's not a good neighbor and that's not a good business. It's aisrespectrur to our fel.low citizens of 01d Forge, and I know you all care about that because I know all of you as well.  It think that if there was something  that I could say for putting up with that kind of aggravation that you all are putting up with, I'm sO sorry that you're dealing with that because that's not right.  Mrs. Sworen was cursed at and vulgar things they're doing to her. Mr. Leshinski and his wife were completely -- I C can't even say the things that were done to them. They have videos of these kids with the gestures at them. This is what they have to deal with in addition to all the problems they're having. I'm just hoping something can be  done.    54  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  There was one thing that as someone  that is sitting on the conservation board that I am concerned about, and that is something that I called the conservation board to have them come down and look at, which is the runoff from all those cars and everything. I mean, I'm trying to fight a rain tax coming here, and yet we have people that are putting us in a position that is going to bring us a rain tax because their oil is running down that road, transmission fluid, grease, every kind you can think of and going down to the Main Avenue, and this is the kind of thing that's going to get us into another tax for our residents.  And that's not a responsible  business owner. I'm all for business. I'd never want to shut a business down. But this is just irresponsible. These young people that are over there are really causing quite a hassle there, so I would appreciate anything you can do for our residents of 01d Forge. Thank you for  hearing me.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: John Juroski?    55  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MR. JUROSKI: The last meeting Lou  Febbo and us and the owners talked. They had 30 days to clear this up. Okay? I talked to the owners two weeks ago and they told me to go F myself. Just try to clean your lot up and get your cars off the street, and I was told : that kid that was here last meeting, I was supposed to be the liaison officer and try to straighten this mess out, and I was told to go F myself. That we can do anything we want in this  town.  S said can you tell me what official  told you that?  I'm not going to tell you what  official, but we were told we can do anything we want in this town. That's all I have to say. It became worse in 30 days. Supposed to improve in 30 days. It became a lot worse. We got guys getting arrested. The guy that owns the place doesn't even have a license. God, he lost his license.  Thank you.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: You're  welcome. Keith Leshinsk1?    56  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MR. LESHINSKI: I seen a couple  council members in the meantime. I'm the person that yous were talking about, probably that message, Chris, in the middle of the night. I did mention it to him. I felt comfortable doing it. I guess it was wrong, Chris. I won't message you on weekends or after hours again. Idid apologize to you for the things you were  right about.  What I do want to do up here is I  want to : it was brought to my attention : and I did, but I didn't know so many feelings were hurt. I'm supposed to be an adult now, a man, and I'm growing into this. But everybody needs help once in a while. I live on my emotions. I'm passionate.  We've been coming to you guys for a  long time, and I know yous know that, and we've been coming with empty hands. Now we have facts. We have written down facts. And unless they're amended, written out or changed these are the rules and regulations for all of you and all of us to live by in this borough. Call the police, I've been    57  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  told. Call code. This is not a lie. Call code, I'm told call police. Okay? That's  what we run into.  I have an incident report where I  was almost hit head-on by a quad coming up the alley provided to me by Chief Dubernas, thankfully, and gave me the report. But it was my word against his. So it was either me driving my very expensive car that I don't drive in the rain up this alley or him coming 65 miles an hour up the alley without looking. I C don't know who to believe, sO he  didn't either. No one was cited.  MR. NOTARI: Wait a second. No one  was cited? Why wasn't somebody cited for driving a quad on a borough street?  CHIEF DUBERNAS: That was Office  Kimball.  MR. LESHINSKI: Officer Kimball told  me that if I don't keep quiet I'm going to be arrested, first of all, and then he -- I have the incident report if you want to read it. Not one was cited. He told me it's his word against mine. So I have a : never mind. The chief thinks I'm bragging. I    58  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  have a Lexus, my dream car, and I turn up an alley, and to think I'm going to drive 65 miles an hour up an alley head-on to a quad that's coming towards me, that's going to the garage that I've been complaining about  for years.  This kid was cited two days in a  row. Two days in a row. First day he was identified by Joe and, I believe, by Officer  Nick Dubernas.  Second day, I have a video of him  coming because I get phone calls. This is why I'm here. I get the phone call that he was just doing a wheelie up Moosic Road. Take a walk down to Butler Street, I wait with my phone, I turn my camera around, here he comes around the corner, just misses a car that's coming down the hill. Just misses it. And you can see the disdain : and that's a matter of opinion, my opinion : disdain in his face.  The tickets that the police are  writing on these cars on the street, I showed Officer Kimball that that Buick has two plates on it within a month. Showed him    59  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  both plates. They're switching plates. I don't want to say that they don't do their job, but they don't know that code. If they're saying there's a process to tow a car, that code suggests not. It suggests not. It's 72 hours. Your car, Russell. You forget your inspection, you forget to do your registration, it's parked in front of your house, an officer can tow it within 72 hours. Doesn't have to call code, doesn't have to call Harrisburg, doesn't have to  take possession of a vehicle.  C don't know where all that comes  from. It's written in code. It was presented to you. You guys all have it. I don't know what number it is off the top of my head. And I used to come in and talk off the cuff, and I guess that's why my words just went up in the air, because here I am just speaking. Here it is in black and white. You have the codes in front of you.  It think three years : and I know  we've been up and down, back and forth with code enforcement and things. We've been patient, but we will be patient no longer,    60  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  and we're not going to stop this until it's rectified. And whatever needs to be deemed or whatever process that is, Chris, I hope  it gets started today, please.  MR. HART: It will.  MR. - LESHINSKI: This place, it's not  even Ronnie Coles, it's not Roy Williams. That's for darn sure. Jenny spoke up and said Ronnie's been there for as long as she's there and never a call. Now, chief got ten calls. He wrote it down. He handed me the piece of paper that since February, ten calls. A lot of them were from me because a lot of people don't want to get  involved.  But I thank God, and I'm really  proud that these neighbors showed up today to show you that we're working and we're doing our investigation which should have been done before. I can remember meetings where everybody broke out our phones and we're trying to find it. There it is for  yous.  And, Chris, do you know if there  have been any amendments or changes to that    61  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  code about towing a vehicle that's on the road without inspection, without registration? Chief, do you know?  MR. NOTARI: There hasn't been. CHIEF DUBERNAS: The roadway's ours. MR. LESHINSKI: Is it the same as it  was written?  CHIEF DUBERNAS: Yes, but we also go  by PennDOT salvage licenses because we take  possession of people's vehicles.  MR. LESHINSKI: That has nothing to  do with it at all. They don't have a  salvage license, do they?  MR. HART: No, they have a dealer's  license.  MR. LESHINSKI: So they're selling  vehicles?  MR. HART: Hold on. I just spoke  with them this morning and I told them to produce all their licenses that they claim they have to me by Friday. I also spoke with DEP this morning about the oil and DEP is coming out. This is what I'm saying. Things are being done. I understand you're  impatient. I get it.