1  1 2 3 4  OLD FORGE BOROUGH COUNCIL OLD FORGE, PENNSYLVANIA  5 IN RE: COUNCIL WORK SESSION  6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21  APRIL 5, 2022 7:00 P.M.  EAGLE-MCCLURE HOSE COMPANY MILWAUKEE AVENUE OLD FORGE, PENNSYLVANIA  COUNCIL MEMBERS:  RUSSELL RINALDI, PRESIDENT RICK NOTARI, VICE-PRESIDENT  LOUIS FEBBO MICHAEL LETTIERI ANDREW BUTLER  22 WILLIAM RINALDI, ESQUIRE, SOLICITOR MARYLYNN BARTOLETTI, BOROUGH MANAGER  23 24 25  ROBERT LEGG, MAYOR  Mark Wozniak Official Court Reporter    2  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: I'd like to  call the meeting to order with the Pledge of  Allegiance.  (The Pledge of Allegiance was  recited.)  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Roll call,  please, Marylynn.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Butler?  MR. BUTLER: Here.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Febbo?  MR. FEBBO: Present. MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman  Lettieri?  MR. LETTIERI: Present.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Notari?  MR. NOTARI: Present.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Rinaldi? MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Here. Ladies  and gentlemen, welcome to the 01d Forge work session. Tonight is Tuesday, April 5, 2022. The purpose of tonight's meeting is to go through our council members, our department heads, see if anybody has anything for the agenda for our regular meeting, which will  be Tuesday, April 19, 2022.    3  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  If anyone from the public would like  to sign in we'11 give you a few minutes at  the end of the meeting.  With that said, we'11 start with the  DPW manager, Joe Lenceski. Joe, anything for the regular meeting coming up?  MR. LENCESKI: No.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Anybody have  any questions for Joe? Thanks, Joe.  Dave Lopatka, engineer, anything for  the regular meeting?  MR. LOPATKA: I don't have anything  for the regular meeting other than I think Holly Ridge, I think they're going to planning next week. So they may be coming  to council for approval.  MR. FEBBO: Did you give those plans  to George Dunbar? Did you give him the  information he needed?  MR. LOPATKA: Yes.  MR. FEBBO: How about on the borough  building, Dave? Any updates on that?  MR. LOPATKA: Still the cabling  issues. I made calls today  well, I sent e-mails out on Monday, made calls today. I    4  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  have the electrician meeting your IT guy there tomorrow. I said, you know, don't leave until we resolve whatever issues there are, because every time the IT guy goes he says that he's not getting connection on certain computer plugs. The electrician was there last Friday and supposedly they checked everything. There's power to all these connections. I mean, that's the issue  we're trying to resolve.  MR. FEBBO: So everybody's getting  together at one time?  MR. LOPATKA: I met them there last  week. We talked about - well, the IT guy kind of mentioned what some of his issues were. The next day the electrician had people there. The IT guy I don't think was  there.  MS. BARTOLETTI: No, just the one  electrician.  MR. LOPATKA: The IT guy went in  over the weekend and he said he tried to connect something and there were three connections that didn't work. He sent Marylynn a text message, which she sent me,    5  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  and I sent an e-mail to the GC and the electrician and said we need this resolved. Then I talked to Marylynn today again. I called both of them. I got them on a conference call, I say we need to have somebody there. So we set a meeting up, and your IT guy is going to be there tomorrow morning at 8:30 and so is the electrician.  MR. FEBBO: What about that railing,  that stainless steel railing that's rusting  already?  MR. LOPATKA: The railing, I know  that the structural company that installed it, - I don't think - - they don't fabricate. I don't know where they got it fabricated. So they came and looked at it and they're like there's something wrong, because it's stainless steel and it's not -- initially D&M had asked, I guess, the question if somebody had spilled something on it or whatever, which I said nobody's even been in the building. There's nobody here. It's on  all the rails.  So D&M is going back to the  structural people and supposedly going to    6  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  get the fabricator to come and take a look at it sO we can figure out what the issue  is.  MR. FEBBO: They're totally  responsible for the whole situation?  MR. LOPATKA: Yes.  MR. FEBBO: Even if they have to cut  into the flagstone?  MR. LOPATKA: Even if they have to  take it out and put it back in they're  responsible.  MR. FEBBO: I don't know if you guys  looked at the railing, but it's all pitted  right down into the :  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: I looked at  the one the night we were there for the walk through. I just looked out the window. I  didn't get up close to it.  MR. LOPATKA: There's rust  everywhere. Stainless steel, I've never  seen that.  MR. BUTLER: If it's stainless steel  mixed with another metal it will rust.  MR. LOPATKA: That's not what should  be there.    7  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MR. BUTLER: What about if we  switched it to aluminum where it won't rust?  MR. FEBBO: Let's let the engineer  make that call.  MR. LOPATKA: I'm waiting for them  to get back to me from whoever their  fabricator was.  MR. FEBBO: The money and time that  we have invested in that building and the product that they did put in there, there should be no question about them correcting  it to our specs.  MR. LOPATKA: It's part of their  contract.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Anybody else  have any questions for Dave? Anything for  us?  MR. LOPATKA: No.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Thanks, Dave.  Zoning officer, Chris Hart, anything for the  agenda?  MR. HART: A17 I have is the same  thing that Dave stated. The Birchwood Estates plan amendment for building 23 and 24, as long as everything's completed on    8  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  your end, and then the Holly Ridge preliminary land development approval as  well.  The Birchwood plan amendment, that I  have going through the planning commission on Tuesday, sO after Tuesday both of them would be approved from planning and then we  can move forward.  MR. FEBBO: Chris, the deal up on  Mine Street, there.  MR. HART: So I have a few videos.  I've been up there every rain storm and I spoke with Dave a little bit. It's going to turn into a dispute between landowners there. There's nothing on our end, but it is coming from the Tagliaferra house 100 percent. I mean, there is water coming down from the mountain, but there's a lot of excess water now coming from the French  drain in the back.  Dave and I spoke. In the beginning  it was worth a shot to do it to see if it would work, but it's not, fortunately. So we still have the same issue as last year. Every time it rains the neighbors' back    9  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  yards are flooded out. It's something that the landowners are going to have to get  together and :  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: But the  neighbors' back yards have been getting  flooded for 60 years.  MR. HART: I don't know what it was  like before. I only know what it's like  now.  MR. LETTIERI: It actually sat in  that lot.  MR. LOPATKA: That whole area up  there is where the stream went years ago.  It went straight down :  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: We walked it  last year.  MR. LOPATKA: It still shows up on  the USGS map as a blue line, which means it was a stream. The stream got diverted up top. IV was up there probably two and a half years ago with Paul Papi. He called me, we walked it. There was water flowing, and it was flowing into a little hole in one of the neighbors' yards downstream where the house was built. There's a hole there. That's    10  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  where the water was going.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: And that  neighbor is Mr. Reviello.  MR. FEBBO: Into the mines.  MR. LOPATKA: It goes right into : MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: It comes out  of a hole in his yard and then goes back into another hole in his yard, and then it goes under all the houses and :  MR. LOPATKA: There was water coming  from two spots. There was water coming from somewhere over to the right, behind where  that house is.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: The problem is  four houses up. Above the other house where  the creek got :  MR. LOPATKA: There's a couple  issues. I was up there after it rained one time -- I don't know. This was probably a year or two ago, a year ago. There's water that comes out :- if you go all the way to the end of Mine Street there's that house that sits back off the road, there. I think there's a little right there and there's one house that sits back there up against the    11  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  mountain. There was water pouring out of the ground right in the middle of their back yard. Then the house next to the house that was built there was, like, an embankment because they cut their house out or whatever. There was water just pouring out of that embankment. That's, I think, the water that whoever built was trying to  divert around their house.  But, you know, being that there was  a S stream there, the stream was fed by water at some point. Base flow. Not overland flow, underground flow. Just because they diverted it up there doesn't mean that that water's going to go away. It was flowing there before somehow to keep that stream flowing. So, you know, you're going to get base flow. There's probably water under  most of those houses.  MR. FEBBO: A11 springs.  MR. LOPATKA: It's springs or storm  water infiltrates and it probably hits bedrock or something somewhere under there and it flows along the top of it. And it finds the path of least resistance, sO when    12  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  somebody cuts into it, that's maybe where it was coming out and maybe that's where that water started coming out years ago when that  house was built.  MR. FEBBO: There was a retention  pond. It holds sO much water before it would go back into the ground again. Once the house went up it blocked off that exit for the water to get back into the ground.  MR. LOPATKA: The water wasn't  getting into the ground there even before. It was flowing through there when me and Paul were up there. That was even before a  house was being built up there.  MR. FEBBO: Not to the degree it is  now.  MR. LOPATKA: They cut into it. We  didn't get up there until after the house  was already up.  MR. HART: They're not disagreeing  that their back yards were not wet before. The issue that I have is the rain water, the rain gutters. They're now disbursing their rain gutters from that house to that back pit. So that's the only issue I have.    13  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Where is the  rain water going?  MR. HART: They had the gutters  diverted into the back yard, into that pit, which is overflowing. So when I spoke to the neighbors that was the only thing. The water prior to that, I can't do anything about that. The gutters, I mean, the only other solution is to get the gutters out into our storm water system. But they're not. They're going to the back yard, in  that pit.  V watched the last rain storm. I  mean, the water's just pouring out where the pit is. It's almost like backing up. But it's also taking on every ounce of water from the house. You have three three-inch pipes, I think, running over to it.  So that's the only thing. Other  than that, they can argue all day. If it was wet before or after I couldn't tell you. Like I said, the only thing I could see was the rain gutters, and if they were to divert the rain gutters to the storm water system and it would still happen it's out of our    14  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  hands.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Could they do  that, Bill?  ATTY. RINALDI: Divert the rain  gutters into our streets? No. Into our  storm water system? No.  MR. LOPATKA: Technically they're  supposed to :  ATTY. RINALDI: Disburse it on the  property.  MR. LOPATKA: Well, it's supposed to  go out to the grass or whatever. They can't  directly connect to the  MR. FEBBO: To the front yard. It  has to go to the front, not the back.  ATTY. RINALDI: Like up in  Rosemount, where they run them to the curb.  No, you can't do that.  MR. HART: But that's what I'm  saying. That's the only solution that would be possible there because the house sits below. No matter what, all that water's going to continue to run to the back. I mean, it's out of our hands, if you ask me. It's between the landowners. He built the    15  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  house, they were there. Where the waters' going, I mean, it's following the path of least resistance. What do you do? The house sits below the street. He can't even get it up to the street. And if it does get it up to the street it's going to come right back anyway. To me, it's not our issue.  It's between the homeowners.  MR. FEBBO: Did you tell him that? MR. HART: Yeah, I told him that.  He still sends me videos. I told him I would speak with Tagliaferra, tell him I know what's going on, which I will. It's not something that I think we should get involved in because at the end of the day  it's not our issue.  MR. FEBBO: Another issue, totally  different, that we never discussed before, Stocki's property. I was up there over the weekend looking for my mechanic to work on my Bobcat who was working at Gilchrist, supposedly. I took a ride around the back looking for him and I had the opportunity to drive all the way to the back of Gilchrist's property and I find Stocki used the back    16  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  entrance into Gilchrist's property as an access to come out of his property.  Also, the back yard is a complete  junkyard. Parts all over the place, tires stacked up. Beaver and I took a ride back there today. He saw it. What could we do  about that?  ATTY. RINALDI: Are they still  operating there?  MR. FEBBO: Still a junkyard. ATTY. RINALDI: You've got to get  him to remove the piles.  MR. BUTLER: There's machinery there  that's not going to run. I can tell you by  looking at it.  MR. HART: That's the argument that  we had with Munley.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: The Gilchrist  property, the trucking company, Gilchrist  own that?  MR. HART: Yes.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: So is Stocki  buying it off him?  MR. HART: He claims he is.  ATTY. RINALDI: I'm hearing rumors.    17  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  Ih haven't seen anything.  MS. BARTOLETTI: But he didn't buy  it off him. If he's entering through that  piece of property   MR. FEBBO: Gilchrist is allowing  him.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: He has to be  giving him permission.  MR. FEBBO: He has a complete road  there up along the Gilchrist trailer and  right out to :  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Behind his  garage.  MR. FEBBO: Now, besides that part,  up on the hill, there, with all that concrete, he still has a junkyard going  there.  MR. HART: That's not our property. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Where are  these piles? Whose property is that on?  MR. FEBBO: A11 the way in the back,  near the creek.  MR. HART: On the left hand side? MR. FEBBO: On the right hand side. MR. HART: He did the fencing, he    18  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  did everything. That's where his argument  that :-  ATTY. RINALDI: The two last issues  were the piles had to be removed and he had to get an HOP. That's why he's suing  Gilchrist.  MR. HART: And he's still arguing  the fact that his parts are working machines. I have pictures. I'm up there all the time. I know what's there. There's  axles, wheels and tires.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Not running  stuff?  MR. FEBBO: No, it's parts. Piles  of parts.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: And he's not  allowed those.  MR. FEBBO: No.  MR. HART: It's on Munley.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Why is it on  Munley?  ATTY. RINALDI: Or we can just do  another and just file another action if we  have to.  MR. FEBBO: Did we not file to take    19  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  an appeal from this whole decision? Did we  not appeal that?  ATTY. RINALDI: We did, and I want  to talk about that in executive session.  That's a no-no.  MR. NOTARI: Shouldn't we start the  process again if he's breaking the law again, breaking our ordinance?  ATTY. RINALDI: It's not going to be  a zoning violation again. We're not starting that again. Now we have an order. He's banned from doing certain things there.  So that's an enforceable order.  MR. FEBBO: We need to be really  severe on this case here. Make sure we have  a good locked down case.  ATTY. RINALDI: I was wondering what  he was doing. It seems quiet every time I  drive by.  MR. NOTARI: That's funny. When I  drove by the other day I thought wow, it  looks a little cleaner.  MR. BUTLER: It's all nice and clean  out in front.  MR. HART: He's still arguing the    20  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  fact that his parts are running machines.  ATTY. RINALDI: The HOP we're still  working on. That's kind of PennDOT's  bailiwick.  MR. FEBBO: Did he get shut down  from using that road because he doesn't have  an HOP?  ATTY. RINALDI: They've been working  on it for months. They just switched their directors up there. There's no permits up  there.  MR. FEBBO: It appears that he's  using Gilchrist's property completely coming  up out of that road.  ATTY. RINALDI: Probably because  he's suing Gilchrist, I hear, too, over the no HOP permit because Gilchrist never got  the HOP.  MR. FEBBO: Bill, keep on that.  Chris, go up there again and take a look at that. A17 the way in the back. Right around the trailers, all the way to the back, make a left. Sin city.  ATTY. RINALDI: He is off the other  property. They threw him off the other    21  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  property.  MR. FEBBO: No, he didn't. MR. BUTLER: There's still stuff  there.  ATTY. RINALDI: The stuff that's  there is there.  MR. HART: The front section is  where they threw him off. He's moving stuff off, but the Scrap Enterprise and Select Realty, yeah, that's over that side. Now, Dupont Trucking, that's totally separate from Select. So I don't know what he has going on there. That's Billy Gilchrist compared to Joey and Chris. He's got his hands tied with all of them and he's kind of working both sides. He's not there often  now.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Anything else?  MR. HART: No.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Anybody have  anything for Chris?  MR. BUTLER: Two questions. What  are they going to be?  MR. HART: Either the rooster or an  abandoned house somewhere.    22  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MR. BUTLER: Ray Street. Two  abandoned houses.  MR. HART: If I could rip them down  myself I would. I send letters.  MR. BUTLER: What's our option with  those houses? They're abandoned. There's  animals living in them.  ATTY. RINALDI: Is that the one that  was sold?  MR. HART: No, there was a different  one sold.  MR. BUTLER: There's nobody buying  these houses. Trust me.  MR. HART: There's a lot of  abandoned houses all over town that are salvageable. It's somebody property.  ATTY. RINALDI: Say hey, it's  uninhabitable and it's condemned,  structurally unsafe.  MR. BUTLER: I was on the porch on  one. The wood is giving away.  MR. HART: The problem is they're  still sitting there. Nobody wants to look at them anymore. So how do you go about  MR. NOTARI: What's the address?    23  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MR. BUTLER: 107 Ray Street.  There's three houses on one lot.  MR. BUTLER: They told me Scott  Carey owns one house and some Pisko or somebody like that owns the front house. Andrew Pisko. I was at both houses. There's no way anybody's going to buy these houses. Holes all over the place.  MR. HART: I sent out five letters  for five abandoned homes. I got the information off the tax list.  MR. BUTLER: The gas and water  company pounding on that door that they weren't paying any water. The water bill was $828. They said they were using the water too fast. That tells me a pipe broke inside the house. So that house is going to be all mold, animals are living in it, and you got a lady living in between them.  MR. HART: Two houses on Winter  Street right now, they claim that the bank owns them. Then I'm finding out somebody  else bought them.  MR. NOTARI: Pisko owns this  property according    24  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MR. HART: That's what I said. A17  my letters keep coming back on these abandoned properties. There has to be  something we can do.  ATTY. RINALDI: You can still cite  them. The address that's in the assessor's,  that's the address.  MR. HART: That's what I've been  doing.  MR. BUTLER: Then what's our course  of action?  ATTY. RINALDI: I don't know what  letters he sent, but if it comes back that's okay. As long as you're using that address. You're not going to get them to tear them  down.  MR. BUTLER: Why can't we tear them  down?  ATTY. RINALDI: The last one we tore  down we lost money on it and it took, like,  15 years to collect.  MR. NOTARI: What house was that? MR. FEBBO: Grace Street.  MR. NOTARI: It couldn't have taken  15 years to collect because we just tore it    25  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  down.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: No, this is  the Chelland property.  MR. NOTARI: The bar property.  Didn't we just tear the house down two or  three years ago?  MR. HART: What I've been trying to  do is coordinate with investors to buy up these houses. I got a couple people out there that are willing to buy these properties. That's our best option, if I can get somebody to buy it and come in and either knock it down or put something up. Bobby Barcola, he's trying to buy up properties. We were speaking today, Russ and I. There's people out there willing to do it. It's getting in touch with the people that own them and getting them to  actually make a deal.  MR. BUTLER: You got somebody living  in between the houses. She's not going to sell. The lots aren't real big. They built three houses on one lot. I guess that was  the deal a hundred years ago.  MR. HART: So far four houses went    26  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  down in 01d Forge in less than a month.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: I think what  Councilman Butler's trying to say, correct me if I'm wrong, and I think we all agree, when we have places like this we just let them sit there for years on years on years.  We can't do anything to them?  ATTY. RINALDI: Unless they're  unsafe.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: We can't take  them over after a certain period of time?  ATTY. RINALDI: No. You can wait  for them to go to tax sale. If they're in a tax sale and nobody's buying them, then there's the sale. People do it all the time. I don't know what the tax status is  on them.  MR. FEBBO: Who deems them unsafe,  then?  ATTY. RINALDI: A1l that's going to  do is prevent it from being livable. He's going to tag it and say it's condemned,  nobody can live in it.  MR. BUTLER: Won't that force them  to sell the property if it's condemned and    27  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  nobody can live in it?  MR. NOTARI: The assessor's page  says Pisko, 107 Ray Street.  ATTY. RINALDI: A, if there's a  mortgage on it; B, if there's taxes on it.  MR. BUTLER: No mortgage on these  houses.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Is there a way  to fine them continuously until they say okay, I'11 sell my house, I'17 fix it up?  MR. BUTLER: Or I don't want the  property no more.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: I'11 pay my  fine.  ATTY. RINALDI: If it's dangerous,  yes.  MR. HART: If I can fine every day,  I'11 fine and cite every day.  ATTY. RINALDI: As long as we got an  engineer or somebody that can testify to that. Just get the addresses from Chris and we'17 just see where each one is at. If it's back taxes, somebody died and nobody opened up an estate. A11 different reasons  they sit there.    28  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Are these  rentals or residential7  MR. HART: No, they're residential  houses.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Bill just said  if Chris gets the addresses he can check the status on where these houses are. Chris, why don't we start getting some addresses.  MR. HART: I have a list.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Then give them  to the solicitor and let him start looking through the tax rolls and see if they're on  back taxes.  MR. NOTARI: Because maybe there's  something with the Land Bank program with the county if people aren't paying their taxes on them and they're on sheriff's sale.  ATTY. RINALDI: If they're in a  repository anybody can go and say hey, I want to pay you $5, can I buy it.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Let's get some  addresses and start working on it, if we could. Especially if they're abandoned.  Chris, anything else?  MR. HART: No.    29  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Anyone have  any questions for Chris? Thanks, Chris.  Chief Dubernas, anything for the  agenda?  CHIEF DUBERNAS: I sent you the  timed parking. I sent it to Bill and I gave it to Marylynn to send to you guys. I put in there from 9:00 to 5:00. I wasn't sure what you guys wanted for timed parking.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Monday to  Friday?  CHIEF DUBERNAS: I just put the  timed parking. I - didn't put dates or times because I wasn't sure if you wanted it Monday to Friday or seven days a week.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Me personally,  I was thinking Monday to Friday, 9:00 to  5:00.  CHIEF DUBERNAS: We can always  change that.  It think attorney Rinaldi will have  more information on the civil service rules.  Igave you the requirements for the  sergeant requirements and for captain.  There's just a couple things in the    30  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  civil service rules. I'm not sure if you want to discuss them in a five minute  executive.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: We could. CHIEF DUBERNAS: I think attorney  Rinaldi might explain to you about changing one of the personnel on the civil service commission for next meeting. Other than that, that's it. Probably adopt the policy for the police department for harassment in  a workplace.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Anything else? MR. BUTLER: On this thing here it  says "must successTully take and pass a first line supervision course within six  months of appointment.  CHIEF DUBERNAS: They offer training  classes for first line supervisors.  MR. BUTLER: We appoint somebody  first and then they come take the test?  What happens if they fail?  CHIEF DUBERNAS: The training they  go to, it's not like that. After I became the chief I went to a bunch of leadership classes afterwards. Some of them already    31  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  have it, but that's just a recommendation, that within six months they have to have that. And they can all be changed.  MR. NOTARI: Do we have officers  interested or is this just an updated policy  that you gave us?  CHIEF DUBERNAS: I'm not sure if  there's officers interested. I never posted the positions yet. But I think it's time  for us to move forward.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Great idea. CHIEF DUBERNAS: Because I can't be  there 24/7. I told you that in the past. I know I have a phone. I - try my best, but I  still can't be there 24/7.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: I agree. I  think it's a great idea.  MR. NOTARI: Me, too.  CHIEF DUBERNAS: In the past, when I  first got hired we had a captain that worked dayshift. I took the exact hours of our old captain when I first got hired back in 2000 and our sergeant. We had a sergeant on second shift and a sergeant on third shift. He saw in the recommendation it says agreed    32  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  upon the OFPOA. That has to be agreed upon with the union. But that's where I'd prefer them, one on second, one on third, and the same shift as how they used to be, Tuesday through Saturday. So there was always a supervisor throughout the weekend, pretty  much.  MR. NOTARI: I'm probably getting  ahead of us here, but if we have somebody that's currently working second shift that  wants to be captain and has :  CHIEF DUBERNAS: Seniority on a  ranked position would bump them.  MR. NOTARI: So that would bump  somebody on first shift that is senior  already. Correct?  CHIEF DUBERNAS: Yes. Under the  rank structure, yes. That's right in the  SOP and everything.  MR. NOTARI: That would have to be  agreed upon by the union. Yes?  CHIEF DUBERNAS: Yes. The rank  supersedes the seniority, so days worked is what has to be agreed upon. That would be my recommendation for days worked, Tuesday    33  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  through Saturday, and then :  MR. NOTARI: That makes sense. A11  right, we'11 talk about it in executive.  MR. FEBBO: Why did we not replace  the captain with a captain :  CHIEF DUBERNAS: We never had enough  police officers, and the only ones that would were eligible was me and Kim because you have to have so many years full time. A11 my full timers right now are eligible for either one. They all have enough time.  MR. FEBBO: Do we have interest? CHIEF DUBERNAS: I think sO. People  said they were interested in it. Like I said, I say here's a first line supervision class, you can take this, and I had officers  that wanted and went to it.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Anybody have  questions for the chief? Thanks, Chief.  Bill Stull, assistant fire chief,  anything for the agenda? Anything for the  meeting?  MR. STULL: No, nothing at all. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Anybody have  any questions for Bill? Bill, the    34  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  inspections, still going pretty strong with  them?  MR. STULL: What we're trying to do  now is catch up on all the old inspections that we have to do follow-ups on before we start anything new. So we're working with Chris on that. There's a lot that we did follow-up inspections on twice, three times, not getting anywhere. We're just turning them over to code enforcement, let them handle it now. Chris has everything up to  date.  Once that's done we'1l move on to  other businesses. I know Chris wants to do multi-families, he wants to get started on.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Sounds good. MR. HART: That's the biggest  problem. A1l multi-family rentals that are  owned by New York, New Jersey.  MR. NOTARI: Get them registered.  Our landlord ordinance.  MR. HART: Started working with it  today. Ih had a guy, he gave me pretty much all his information from the lease to who's living there, contact numbers for the    35  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  management company and himself, contact numbers for the tenants. I mean, it will work, but it's also going one by one, taking it street by street and seeing which properties are being rented and not lived in, then approaching the property owner. So it will take time, but it will work. Just keep in order by how long their lease is, if the lease is up, or if I hear from the chief that somebody's whatever, then I can reference right back. Kind of regulate it  that way.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Anything else,  Bill?  MR. STULL: No, that was it. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Attorney  Rinaldi, anything for the agenda or for the  meeting?  ATTY. RINALDI: I guess we're going  to have Dunbar's resolution on the  donations.  We're going to have the no parking  ordinance on Butler Street.  Civil service. Me and Dave can work  out all the changes and I can get the add    36  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  in, get that on the agenda.  Think about a mask resolution,  because right now there's a mask required on all borough property. I know all the mandates seem to be lifted, sO we have to change ours, if you want to change it.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: We should  discuss that tonight in executive as well.  ATTY. RINALDI: And there's going to  be two stipulations to resolve two of the tax appeals and one which I can tell you about in executive session. About six or seven tax appeals. Two of them are going to be resolved. One was supposed to be a trial last Wednesday, it was continued. Another was a pretrial that was continued, sO that's resolved. The third one : well, three other ones look like it's going to be going  to trial. That's it.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Bill, you said  Dunbar, no parking. What was the third one?  ATTY. RINALDI: Butler, the mask  resolution. Update that. Civil service  would be an ordinance.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: That's the one    37  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  m missed. Anything else?  ATTY. RINALDI: That's it.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Anybody have  any questions for the solicitor? Thank you,  Bill.  Marylynn, borough manager, anything  for the agenda?  MS. BARTOLETTI: No. The only thing  that I would like is an executive when we're  done for personnel reasons.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Okay. Anybody  have any questions for the borough manager?  MR. NOTARI: Mare, do we need to  alert the election department at that county  about we still will not be :  MS. BARTOLETTI: Already done. MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: Anyone else?  Thanks, Mare. We'11 go down the table.  Mayor Legg?  MAYOR LEGG: I have nothing. MR. FEBBO: No, I said it all. MR. NOTARI: I have nothing at this  time.  MR. LETTIERI: I'm good. MR. BUTLER: I have nothing.    38  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: A11 I would  say is we'11 just break into a brief executive as well. Other than that, I don't  have anything else.  The chair would entertain a motion  to adjourn the work session.  MR. FEBBO: I'17 make that.  MR. RUSSELL RINALDI: By Councilman  Febbo. A1l in favor?  (Unanimous. Meeting adjourned.)    39  1 2 3 4 5  CERTIEICATE  h hereby certify that I attended the foregoing  proceeding, took stenographic notes of the same, that 6 the foregoing, consisting of 38 pages, is a true and correct copy, done to the best of my ability, of same  7  8 and the whole thereof.  9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  Mark Wozniak  K Official Court Reporter    1  $ $82811-23:15 1 10011-8:16 107121-23:1,273 152-24:21,24:25 19/11-2:25 2 200011-31:22 20229-1:9,2:20, 2:25 2311-7:24 2411-7:25  adjourn! (1- 38:6 adoptn- 30:9 agendam-2:24, 7:21,29:4,33:21, 35:17,36:1,37:7 agon-9:13,9:21, 10:20, 12:3,25:6, 25:24 agreed! 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