1  1 2  OLD FORGE BOROUGH COUNCIL  3 IN RE: REGULAR MEETING OF COUNCIL  4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  HELD:  Tuesday, June 18, 2024  TIME: 7:00 P.M. LOCATION:  OLD FORGE MUNICIPAL BUILDING 310 South Main Street 01d Forge, Pennsylvania  COUNCIL  MEMBERS:  RUSSELL RINALDI, President JIM HOOVER, Vice President MICHELE AVVISATO - absent  ANDREW BUTLER RICK NOTARI MICHAEL KOMENSKY JENNA JONES-SHOTWELL  MARYLYNN BARTOLETTI, Borough Manager  ROBERT LEGG, Mayor  WILLIAM RINALDI, Esquire, Solicitor  MICHELLE SMOLSKIS OFFICIAL COURT REPORTER    2  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  (Pledge of Allegiance.)  MR. RINALDI: Roll call, please,  Marylynn.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilwoman  Shotwell?  MS. SHOTWELL: Here. MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman  Komensky?  MR. KOMENSKY: Here.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Notari?  MR. NOTARI: Present.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Butler?  MR. BUTLER: Here.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilwoman  Avvisato is absent. Councilman Hoover?  MR. HOOVER: Present.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Rinaldi? MR. RINALDI: Here. Once again,  ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the regular meeting of the 01d Forge Borough. Tonight is  Tuesday, June 18, 2024.  The purpose of our meeting is to go  through a few housekeeping motions, and then we'11 go down our table, we'17 hear from our    3  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  mayor and our Council members, we'1l hear from  our department heads.  The Chief of police has a public  sign-in sheet. If anyone from the audience would like to address us, we'11 give you a few moments at the end of the meeting before new  business.  With that said, we're going to move  with our first housekeeping motion, and this is going to be a motion to approve the minutes  from the prior meeting.  MR. NOTARI: I'17 make that motion,  Mr. Chairman.  MR. RINALDI: Motion on the floor by  Councilman Notari.  MR. BUTLER: I'17 second.  MR. RINALDI: Second by Councilman  Butler. On the question?  (No response.)  MR. RINALDI: Public input?  (No response.)  MR. RINALDI: Roll call, please. MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilwoman  Shotwell?  MS. SHOTWELL: Yes.    4  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman  2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  Komensky?  MR. KOMENSKY: Yes.  MS. - BARTOLETTI: Councilman Notari?  MR. NOTARI: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Butler?  MR. BUTLER: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Hoover?  MR. HOOVER: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Rinaldi? MR. RINALDI: Yes. Second item is  motion to approve treasurer's report. Please note, this does not include the sewer account.  MR. BUTLER: I'11 make the motion. MR. RINALDI: Motion on the floor by  Councilman Butler.  MR. NOTARI: Second.  MR. RINALDI: Second by Councilman  Notari. On the question?  (No response.)  MR. RINALDI: Public input?  (No response.)  MR. RINALDI: Roll call, please. MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilwoman  Shotwell?    5  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MS. SHOTWELL: Yes. MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman  Komensky?  MR. KOMENSKY: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Notari?  MR. NOTARI: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Butler?  MR. BUTLER: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Hoover?  MR. HOOVER: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Rinaldi? MR. RINALDI: Yes. Third item is a  motion to approve invoices for payment. Please note, once again, this does not include the  sewer account.  MR. NOTARI: I'17 make that motion,  Mr. Chairman.  MR. RINALDI: Motion on the floor by  Councilman Notari.  MR. KOMENSKY: I'11 second.  MR. RINALDI: Seconded by Councilman  Komensky. On the question?  (No response.)  MR. RINALDI: Public input?  (No response.)    6  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MR. RINALDI: Roll call, please. MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilwoman  Shotwell?  MS. SHOTWELL: Yes. MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman  Komensky?  MR. KOMENSKY: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Notari?  MR. NOTARI: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Butler?  MR. BUTLER: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Hoover?  MR. HOOVER: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Rinaldi? MR. RINALDI: Yes. Fourth item is a  motion to approve treasurer's report for the  sewer department. Mr. Chairman.  MR. NOTARI: I'11 make that motion,  MR. RINALDI: Motion on the floor by  Councilman Notari.  MR. HOOVER: I'77 second it. MR. RINALDI: Second by Councilman  Hoover. On the question?  (No response.)    7  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MR. RINALDI: Public input?  (No response.)  MR. RINALDI: Roll call, please,  Marylynn.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilwoman  Shotwell?  MS. SHOTWELL: Yes. MS. - BARTOLETTI: Councilman  Komensky?  MR. KOMENSKY: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Notari?  MR. NOTARI: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Butler?  MR. BUTLER: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Hoover?  MR. HOOVER: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Rinaldi? MR. RINALDI: And last item is  motion to approve sewer department invoices for  payment.  MR. NOTARI: I'11 make that motion,  Mr. Chairman.  MR. RINALDI: Motion on the floor by  Councilman Notari.  MR. BUTLER: I'17 second it.    8  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MR. RINALDI: Second by Councilman  Butler. On the question?  (No response.)  MR. RINALDI: Public input?  (No response.)  MR. RINALDI: Roll call, please. MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilwoman  Shotwell?  MS. SHOTWELL: Yes. MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman  Komensky?  MR. KOMENSKY: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Notari?  MR. NOTARI: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Butler?  MR. BUTLER: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Hoover?  MR. HOOVER: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Rinaldi? MR. RINALDI: Yes. We're going to  move into our first department head, DPW manager Joseph Lenceski. Joe, anything for the  meeting?  MR. LENCESKI: Nothing for the  meeting.    9  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MR. RINALDI: Anybody have any  questions for Joe?  MR. NOTARI: No.  MR. RINALDI: Thank you, Joe. MR. LENCESKI: Thank you. MR. RINALDI: You're welcome.  Zoning code enforcement officer, Mike Sokolowski. Mike, anything for the meeting?  MR. SOKOLOWSKI: No, nothing for the  meeting.  MR. RINALDI: Anyone have any  questions for Mike?  MR. NOTARI: Just, Mike, Moosic  Road next to the Barcola property, overgrown  grass.  MR. SOKOLOWSKI: Yeah. I just got  ahold of : the lady's in a nursing home.  MR. NOTARI: Okay.  MR. SOKOLOWSKI: She's in Allied. I  got ahold of the sister, they're trying to find somebody to cut the grass. I guess whoever's  cutting the grass :  MR. NOTARI: Stopped.  MR. SOKOLOWSKI: : just never  yeah.    10  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MR. NOTARI: There's a car parked  there, too, right?  MR. SOKOLOWSKI: Yeah. MR. NOTARI: Yeah.  MR. SOKOLOWSKI: This lady, she's in  Allied, sO :  MR. NOTARI: Okay. Thanks. MR. SOKOLOWSKI: I'm trying to get  somebody there for her.  MR. RINALDI: Anyone else have any  questions for mike?  (No response.)  MR. RINALDI: Thanks; Mike. MR. SOKOLOWSKI: Yep. MR. RINALDI: Engineer, Dave  Lopatka, is on vacation. Police Chief Jason Dubernas. Chief, anything for the meeting?  CHIEF DUBERNAS: Just yesterday the  civil service held their oral boards for the candidates. One of the candidates didn't show  up. So we're down to two now.  MR. RINALDI: How long for the  results to come back, Chief?  CHIEF DUBERNAS: Probably by the end  of the week they'17 have the results and then    11  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  they have a meeting to finalize everything.  MR. RINALDI: Two candidates total  took the test?  CHIEF DUBERNAS: No, there was  three.  MR. RINALDI: Three took the test? ATTY. RINALDI: Did somebody fail? CHIEF DUBERNAS: No. They didn't  show up for the interview.  MR. HOOVER: Did he call or nothing?  He didn't call or nothing?  CHIEF DUBERNAS: What?  MR. HOOVER: Did he even call and  say he had a problem or anything?  CHIEF DUBERNAS: I € called him and  sent him text messages. He was working in  another department.  ATTY. RINALDI: So, can you  reschedule it, Chief? He was at work.  CHIEF DUBERNAS: No. He didn't show  up for the time slot sO he gets a zero.  ATTY. RINALDI: He got notice,  though, right?  CHIEF DUBERNAS: Letter. They  received a letter. Civil service has copies of    12  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  the letters, we have copies of the letters.  MR. RINALDI: Any other items,  Chief?  CHIEF DUBERNAS: That's it. MR. RINALDI: Anybody have any  questions for the Chief?  MR. BUTLER: I have one. Chief, do  you know where the boundary line is on Lonesome  Road where it turns into Moosic?  CHIEF DUBERNAS: The bridge. MR. BUTLER: The bridge is it? CHIEF DUBERNAS: You make the  left-hand turn there. As soon as you go past Dick Street, you make the left, that bridge  right there.  MR. BUTLER: Some of these clowns  are coming out of there, they come out too far coming from Moosic, you can't make the turn. The guy in front of me the other day was screaming at the lady because she :  CHIEF DUBERNAS: Oh, at that stop  sign there.  MR. BUTLER: Yes. Because they were  going up the hill and they came out too far. I was wondering if they - I'17 get in touch with    13  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  Sterling or somebody and see if they could put  maybe a stop light there.  CHIEF DUBERNAS: Paint line there. MR. BUTLER: Yeah. Because that's  just crazy. They just come out too far.  CHIEF DUBERNAS: Yeah. I - think  that'17 be actually Moosic because they're coming from Moosic. That stop sign's in  Moosic.  MR. BUTLER: Yeah. A11 right.  Thank you.  MR. RINALDI: Any other questions  for the Chief?  (No response.)  MR. RINALDI: Thank you, Chief.  Assistant Fire Chief Bill Stull is absent from the meeting but he gave his notes to Councilman Komensky and he asked him to pass them on to us. So, Councilman Komensky, if you  want to.  MR. KOMENSKY: So, the only thing he  has for the meeting is just a reminder that Sunday, June 30th with the corn hole tournament, we're going to need to shut down East Grace between Fallon and Main for the corn    14  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  hole tournament. And I'm sure he'1l be in  touch with you about that, Jay.  CHIEF DUBERNAS: Yeah. It's just a  barrier. Joe drops the barriers off.  MR. KOMENSKY: Yep.  CHIEF DUBERNAS: They go up and they  close it themselves.  MR. KOMENSKY: Right. Other than  that, he said that's all he has for the  meeting.  MR. RINALDI: Thanks. Thanks,  Councilman Komensky.  MR. KOMENSKY: Yep.  MR. RINALDI: Attorney Rinaldi,  anything for the meeting?  ATTY. RINALDI: Other than what's in  my report and our discussion in the executive session, nothing else. Unless you have  questions.  MR. RINALDI: Anybody have any  questions for the solicitor?  MR. NOTARI: One question, Bill.  The new zoning ordinance plan that we were working on, do you know what we're waiting for  to approve it?    15  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  ATTY. RINALDI: I think we're  waiting for planning to send in additional comments. That was the last I heard at the  last planning.  MR. NOTARI: Okay. Can we ask them  for -- like, how do we officially ask them when we want them back? Do we need to send a letter? Do we need to just tell Vince, Let's  go?  MR. KOMENSKY: I'11 talk to Vince.  Actually, I talked to Vince, Jimmy, when I was there with you. He's trying to get together with the zoning committee to finish what they have to do. Now, I think, what, you have a  zoning meeting :  ATTY. RINALDI: No. I'm not on the  zoning.  MR. KOMENSKY: You don't. Joe has  one, like, next week I think.  ATTY. RINALDI: Okay.  MR. SOKOLOWSKI: Yeah. We have :  MR. KOMENSKY: Right?  MR. SOKOLOWSKI: : next Thursday,  6:00, before the Planning Commission, there's  going to be a zoning    16  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MR. KOMENSKY: So, Jimmy, I was  gonna ask you if you wanted to go to that meeting and we can try to ruffle them together, get them together and try to get this done.  MR. SOKOLOWSKI: They want to get  the two of them together.  MR. KOMENSKY: Yes. Correct. MR. SOKOLOWSKI: Coordinate  together.  MR. KOMENSKY: Yep.  MR. SOKOLOWSKI: Planning and  zoning.  MR. KOMENSKY: So, maybe we could  pick a date and get it done.  MR. SOKOLOWSKI: Right.  MR. KOMENSKY: I just found that out  Friday when I was down there.  MR. NOTARI: Okay. Thank you. MR. KOMENSKY: Yep.  MR. RINALDI: Any other questions  for the solicitor?  (No response.)  MR. RINALDI: Thanks, Bill. Borough  manager, Marylynn Bartoletti. Marylynn,  anything for the meeting?    17  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MS. BARTOLETTI: So, first, does  anyone have any questions on my financial  reports?  MS. SHOTWELL: No.  MS. BARTOLETTI: No. No questions.  Okay. On the agenda tonight, number three, American Asphalt quotation. It's to fix the water runoff problem on Edgewood Drive.  It think you'11 remember in our last  meeting that we asked Dave to get quotations for Edgewood Drive and also for the water runoff problem that we're having in Miles  Street Park.  Quotations for that particular  problem came in too high, just the quotations, sO that's going to end up being part of our paving project. It's going to be added to the paving project, which is why Dave held out from  putting it out for advertisement.  So, American Asphalt is the low  bidder. That's what we vote on tonight,  Edgewood Drive only, okay?  MR. RINALDI: Okay.  MS. BARTOLETTI: And this is it. MR. RINALDI: Anybody have any other    18  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  questions for Marylynn?  (No response.)  MR. RINALDI: Thank you, Mare.  Before we go into public comment, we have Mr. Nathan Barrett here. He wants to give us a presentation on grant writing. Nate,  correct?  MR. BARRETT: Yes, sir.  MR. RINALDI: So, if you want to  come to the podium, and you could just begin.  MR. BARRETT: Good evening members  of Council. Thank you, Chairman Rinaldi.  MR. RINALDI: You're welcome. MR. BARRETT: Thank you everyone for  giving me the opportunity to speak to the Council this evening and speak about some opportunities that I wanted to offer to your  Borough.  I am Nathan Barrett. I am a  Lackawanna Countian. I live in North Abington Township. I used to work here as your elementary principal but I am currently a superintendent in Luzerne County at the Hanover  Area School District.  With that in mind, I work for a    19  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  school district that was strapped for cash for  quite some period of time, as most  municipalities and most school districts are, so Ib began to look into grants and money that is available at both the state, corporate,  private and federal levels.  As I began to do that, I began to  understand the vast amount of money that's available both to school districts, boroughs, municipalities, if you begin to do the research  and look into this.  So, as I began to do that and dive  into this, I began to find more and more money for the school district that I work for.  As a result, I began to share this  with my colleagues and then began to write grants part time on the weekend for these school districts and began to have a successful little business for myself that now has turned into 13 school districts between Lackawanna and Luzerne County, bringing twelve million dollars back to our region in the last 18 months. With that, that has turned some heads, not from just school districts but  from some boroughs.    20  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  So, now I've just signed my fifth  contract with local boroughs within Lackawanna County that have reached out to me and asked me to take a look at some of the necessities that they have within their municipality, and I began to do so, and I began to do sO  successfully.  And the only way that this is a  possibility is that, in my opinion, is if you have somebody that's focused on this solely.  I cannot do this throughout the  course of my day as a superintendent. I can't sit down, run a district, run into all the incidentals throughout the course of the day dealing with personnel, sO on and so forth, and  then do research and grant writing.  So, I know that a borough manager, a  mayor, sO on and sO forth, cannot accomplish  all these things on their own.  So, in that, speaking with Chairman  Rinaldi, he wanted me to come and say how much money that is available, especially toward Infrastructure Act, to try to help out this  borough.  With that being said, I wanted to    21  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  share some of the stuff that I have been doing in Lackawanna County. Up in Blakely, for example, the latest project that I did up there was nearly three million dollars in the street scape project, infrastructure when it comes to multimodal grants, crossings, blinking lights for safety, and then for their street lights with the cameras for public safety, things of  that nature.  A11 these monies are available  through the Infrastructure Act under the Biden administration. There's right now three hundred billion dollars that's out there to reach out to whatever cause that you wanted to  look into.  So, for example, you know, if there  was something that you wanted to do with the flooding project or the water runoff, things of that nature, there is all money just in that  topic within itself.  So, I came tonight in a very passive  manner just to offer this up to have this consideration of this Council to think about if there's ever an opportunity that you wanted a grant writer that could just focus on certain    22  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  topics.  The way that I normally do this is  r reach out to the borough administration and ask what the top three needs are. They tell me what those top three needs are and I begin  to conquer in order of priority.  Once I conquer number one, I move on  to number two because that moves up then, and I continually stay in contact with the borough administration. And as I knock off all those priorities, then we continue to stack on  priority after priority.  At the first of every month, I send  all the available grants that are available to  the municipality. Then the borough  administrator would say to me, Apply for all five but take six off. We don't need that. So I apply for all five grants, and then we get that in the queue for whatever your top needs  are.  Then June comes, I send you the top  five that are available, and then you tell me which ones not to apply for. Otherwise, I'm  applying for them.  And I continue to repeat this    23  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  process, and then biweekly you would get a report of what's applied for, what's been  awarded and what's in process.  Then I give you your return of  investment, what you paid me to do this, and I usually, within the first three months, pay for  myself for an entire year.  let you know what your return of  investment is sO you could come back and tell the taxpayers of this borough, Okay, we hired this person for X amount of dollars, but this is what they've obtained up to this point.  So, you will continue to get the  available grants on private, state, federal and there are corporate sponsorships, as well.  So, I have a database that reaches  out. I mean, everybody knows to go for your RACP grants or your LSA grants, so on and sO forth, but there's a very deep database that touches everybody's needs, and I would continue  to dive into that.  And every single month I would send  something to this borough administration and just tell me what not to apply for; otherwise, it's gonna happen, and money will continue to    24  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  flow into this township at whatever pace you want it to be based on that monthly : those monthly applications that are available.  So, I open this up to any questions,  but I just wanted to make sure that everybody knew that this is a service that's available.  I'm right here in Lackawanna County.  IC could come back here monthly, give you reports, whatever it might be. If you don't want to see me, that's fine, you know, whatever dynamic you would like to be, I would like to  be an asset to you.  MR. HOOVER: What would be the time  frame, like, for Blakely Borough from the point that they start a street scape project? Say we wanted to go six blocks right here, what would be - the time frame of getting the grant and  starting the construction?  MR. BARRETT: You're talking about  eight months. So, if : perhaps even longer. So, for me, on a personal note, to make this selfish to me, it would be we would try -- I try to do a two-year contract, because by the time we go through every process from engineer : if you wanted to do -- if you want    25  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  to extend it out six more weeks, there has to be an engineering piece. So you have to tell me exactly what you want to do, what it'd look  like and where you want it to be.  Once that happens, I upload it. But  Ialso go after money to pay for those engineering fees. So, as you're doing this, I'm applying for the engineering, the  architectural piece and any type of management that you may have to put out of your general fund for the planning piece of this. There's  preparation money.  So, if you wanted to go after this,  what we do is we go after that first. And then while we're doing that concurrently, in stages, then we go after the construction piece, because that's already in the queue, that's being worked on. Then we move to the  construction aspect of it.  And then as we continue to filter  through that process, those grants begin to show up. You get the money to pay your engineers, your architect, and then the  construction would begin.  But to answer your question, it's in    26  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  the time frame of between eight months and a  year.  MR. HOOVER: That's not a long time. MR. BARRETT: No, it's not. MR. HOOVER: It's not a long time. MR. BARRETT: It's not.  MR. BUTLER: What is basically the  average turnaround time, like, say for, like, school projects like a playground or something  like that?  MR. BARRETT: So, for me, on  average, I'm seeing from the day I put a pen to a paper to : this school district's now about three-month turnaround time that I'm awarded  something.  So, for example, is the school  improvement money that Governor Shapiro's putting into place. It's about a three-month turnaround for every : there's 13 school districts that I'm working for now, it's about  a three-month turnaround time.  And there's a lot of painful process  in the meantime, engineering, your quotes, and all the things that are a necessity to make sure that we're living up to the statutes    27  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  necessary to receive this money.  However, when you start the process,  - make sure I give a checklist, make it as easy as possible. I need these three quotes, it has to be from an engineer and so that we don't have to keep revisiting this. One done, boom,  and we send it off.  MR. BUTLER: One other question,  your payment, do you take it right from the get-go, right from the beginning, or do you  take a percentage of what :  MR. BARRETT: So, what I prefer :  there are three different methods that we do. What I prefer is $2,000 a month. That would be  for the two-year term time frame.  What I try to do is that allows me  to have three people working at all times for a municipality or school district, like people doing grant research all the time, writing, and  then management of the grants.  You don't have to do anything. Once  it's awarded, I don't want to put that on the plate of the borough manager or the mayor or anything, then we manage the grants afterwards.  So, that allows me to pay that.    28  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  But there's a caveat that I didn't  share with all of you that out of that $2,000 a month, we have two lobbyist firms that follow  the grant all the way through.  So, when you apply for the  application, it's not just Nathan Barrett that's sending it out to whatever agency we're trying to pursue, there's a lobbyist firm from Washington D.C. and a lobbyist firm in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania that follows your application, gives it a little bit of muscle, that they're working, they're having lunch with legislators, making sure that they understand what's happening in their districts, how vital and how important it is, and that's part of the  $2,000 fee.  So, to be completely transparent,  $1,000 goes to the firm that I have, and a thousand goes to the two separate lobbyist firms that follow this through and give it the muscle it needs. That's. why we've been this  successful.  MR. RINALDI: Nathan, a few  questions - or, are you done?  MR. BUTLER: I'm good.    29  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MR. RINALDI: Sorry. I didn't want  to interrupt you.  MR. BUTLER: Go ahead.  MR. RINALDI: A few things. First  of all, thanks for coming today. I appreciate  you taking the time  MR. BARRETT: I appreciate the  opportunity.  MR. RINALDI: - and bringing the  information. You said currently you're with 13 school districts, five boroughs, you just answered one of my questions I was going to ask you that Councilman Butler asked, regardless of the amount of grant that you were :- that if we hired you and we were awarded, we were awarded $100,000 grant, your fee's the same no matter what? We were awarded a million dollar grant,  your fee's the same?  MR. BARRETT: Same thing. MR. RINALDI: We were awarded a  $30,000 grant, your fee's the same?  MR. BARRETT: (Indicating yes.) MR. RINALDI: Okay. That was one  question. Then a couple others. Just as far as, you know, the types of grants, and not in    30  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  any order, you know, but you mentioned about four or five every month, get an information packet, send it out, Marylynn will say, We're not looking for this, we're looking for this, boom, boom, boom, and, again, not in any order, but, I mean, a couple things that are on the table always with us, and I think, if I'm not correct, speak up someone, like, public safety grants for police and safety, Councilman Hoover mentioned, like, Main Street grant where we're looking into a community center now, maybe a grant for that, parks and recreations, things of that nature, all available grants for all of  those things I just mentioned?  MR. BARRETT: So, every single  month, Marylynn will get a list --  MR. RINALDI: Of what's available. MR. BARRETT: : it'11 be broken  down. Broken down by department.  MR. RINALDI: Right.  MR. BARRETT: So, you get a DPW,  I'11 give you an example, retrotitting into, you know, pressurized fuel or something. These  are the things that are available.  Now, DPW, fire department, public    31  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  safety, police department, the economic development, I will have it broken down into five separate categories, and then there will be a multitude of grants under every single category, and Marylynn will tell me, No, don't  do this, or, Go with all of them.  MR. RINALDI: Right.  MR. BARRETT: And then every single  department, I will go after every single one of those grants. So, whatever's available on every single level that I have mentioned before, and there's five different avenues that I travel to try to find these funds, you know, from state all the way down to corporate and maybe private sponsorships, but I apply for something in every one of your departments so that there's not neglect in one way or the  other.  MR. RINALDI: Well, that was going  to be the other question. Is there different grants available different months?  MR. BARRETT: Yeah.  MR. RINALDI: Like, is there certain  times to apply for certain grants that you have a better chance of receiving, or you just send    32  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  them out regardless?  MR. BARRETT: So, I go with what's  in the software that I have.  MR. RINALDI: Right.  MR. BARRETT: So, right now, and as  I've said, the municipality piece is something that's new to me. I've been doing school districts for two years and then didn't realize how much more is available to  municipalities.  IV was in this little, you know, lane  of school districts, there's only sO many places you could go, but you look at a municipality, you're talking about DPW, economic development, multimodal, public safety, you name it, there's a whole new world that was like I was like the sun came out when  Istarted looking into this stuff.  So, right now through the Department  of Justice, and Chief would love this, is the amount of money right now for body cams to license plate readers to cameras on your street  lights, there's an endless amount.  IV would have to -- Marylynn would be  there for an hour, like, telling me which ones    33  to and not to apply for, because they're endless at this point. I would just have to see what your priorities are, not just as a municipality but within a department because right now you could get anything, bulletproof vests. I would have to narrow it down as to what you want because there's just sO much  2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  available.  MR. RINALDI: Right. Well, that's  what I was going to say, if we were spending the time, for instance, because these require bigger grants, if we were spending time trying to get a bigger grant for our Main Street project, we're waiting on a million dollar grant, it doesn't mean, I mean, just for me speaking, I don't want to miss, even if we have a $30,000 grant that we could get for the police department or say the DPW department, you know, instead of looking over that and keep waiting for this other one, I mean, I would like to grab as many as we could  possibly. could  MR. BARRETT: And those ones I  MR. RINALDI: Even if they're small    34  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  amounts, it doesn't matter.  MR. BARRETT: Sure. (Inaudible crosstalk.)  MR. BARRETT: : today for 7500 from  Highmark.  MR. RINALDI: Right.  MR. BARRETT: So, it could be as big  as it's small, but where I would utilize, as you just mentioned, a big process, let's say through the environment protection, that's when  I - would utilize the lobbyist firm.  You're looking for a three million  dollar grant from environmental protection for water flow, whatever it might be, or a road project, you know, that's when we would utilize  the firm.  W wouldn't utilize them for  something small like body cam. You know, they're $2,000. And if you didn't get that, that's something that could come out of your  general fund.  I'm talking about the big grants  that we really need some muscle, that's when I  would utilize.  So, I've had the ability to read the    35  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  defenses to where I would need that extra oomph when I'm going to D.C., Harrisburg. So it's : and the formula's been working pretty  well.  MR. RINALDI: Right. Did you bring  any information with you :-  MR. BARRETT: I did.  MR. RINALDI: : that you could  leave us?  MR. BARRETT: I brought some stuff  for the Council.  MR. RINALDI: Yeah. Just a couple  things if you could leave it with us.  MR. BARRETT: Right.  MR. RINALDI: I mean, I'm not saying  you're done, you could continue talking, and also I'm going to go around the table, anyone here could ask you any questions, but just something we have sO we could   MR. BARRETT: Right. I just did MR. RINALDI: Yeah. Sure. You  could just : hand it to Marylynn and then  we'17  MR. BARRETT: Sure.  MR. RINALDI: We could even get it    36  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  after the meeting.  MR. BARRETT: Yep.  MR. RINALDI: Any other members have  any questions for Nathan?  MR. HOOVER: Nathan, what other  boroughs do you do besides Blakely?  MR. BARRETT: We do Archbald,  0lyphant and then we're set to sign on with Moosic in August or September. So, they're working through a couple things right now.  I was trying to capture the tri  borough because there are a couple cooperative grants that would really be good for a river project. So, that's what I - that was my main  emphas1s.  MR. HOOVER: So, we have four or  five bigger projects right now that we'd like to, you know, start the ball rolling on.  MR. BARRETT: Yeah.  MR. HOOVER: And we just, we only  have SO much money to do what we can.  MR. BARRETT: Yep. And I can still  go after it, but it's a nice cooperative agreement, it helps, but I'm going to do  whatever I need to do.    37  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MR. HOOVER: Thanks.  MR. RINALDI: Anyone else have any  questions for Nathan?  MR. KOMENSKY: No.  MS. SHOTWELL: I think all of mine  have been answered. Mainly mine was going to be about the grant management part of it, because I know writing a grant is something,  managing it is totally different.  MR. BARRETT: ADSolutely. MS. SHOTWELL: So you and your  people handle all of that?  MR. BARRETT: That's it. There's  nothing extra added to your staff. There's enough going on here, I'm sure, throughout the course of the day that you won't be handling anything like that, quarterly reports or  anything of that nature.  MR. BUTLER: Nathan, you said that  we get a list of where all the available grants are and all the different departments and  stuff?  MR. - BARRETT: Yeah. So, what I do  is based on the needs assessment, when I send it off to Marylynn, she tells me, let's just    38  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  say, you know, multimodal grants, you want sidewalks and crosswalks and that was your number one priority, I would look at every category of availability then I would find everything that has to deal with that topic and Iw would apply for every piece of that.  And then Marylynn would tell me what  not to apply for at that point, you know, and then, like, move on to number two, the number two priority, ahd let's say it's public safety, you want body cameras, and then I would move on to that and I would look for every available  resource there.  And I'm mindful, if there's, you  know, 72 grants on the same thing, I'm mindful, and you could tell how many awards there's going to be on these grants, sO I would go with our best ratio of receiving the award. There's a little bit of formula to it, a little science  to it.  MR. BUTLER: How about an EPA grant,  how hard are they to get?  MR. BARRETT: That's where we would  need the help of the Tittle bit of muscle of people that work on these lobbyist firms, and    39  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  that's : it's been successful up to this  point.  MR. BUTLER: We definitely have a  couple issues there.  MR. BARRETT: Yep. So, that's when  we would have to take a look at, if you decide to ever entertain my service, then we would have to really take a look at what you have already, and if you don't have anything already from a planning standpoint, then I have to go after some money for engineering, because we're going to need that before we're ever at the  table for anything.  MR. RINALDI: Nathan, you mentioned  about contract, is there a minimal contract? I know you said if it was a bigger grant you're looking at, like, something for, like, a two-year contract, but is there a month to month, is there a six month, is there a year?  MR. BARRETT: Two years is best for  me because they're usually six to eight month  cycles on grants :  MR. RINALDI: Right.  MR. BARRETT: : just to get them  through, SO I would only be able to get through    40  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  essentially one cycle of grants for you if it's  a year.  MR. RINALDI: Right.  MR. BARRETT: So, I'd prefer to  stick with the two.  MR. RINALDI: So, then with the  current with the schools that you're in and with the boroughs, either all of them or the majority of them started off with contracts  like that?  MR. BARRETT: Everybody. MR. RINALDI: Okay.  MR. BARRETT: There's not a person  that's not :  MR. RINALDI: Right. Okay.  MR. BARRETT:  two year.  MR. RINALDI: A11 right.  MS. SHOTWELL: How long have you  been doing this?  MR. BARRETT: Eighteen months now. MS. SHOTWELL: Eighteen months.  MR. BARRETT: Yeah.  MR. RINALDI: Nathan, are you able  to give us an estimate of how much money you've  come back with?    41  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MR. BARRETT: For school districts  in the region, twelve million dollars.  MR. RINALDI: In 18 months? MR. BARRETT: Yes.  MR. RINALDI: Wow. That's a good  return. Anybody else have any questions for  Nathan?  MR. KOMENSKY: No.  MR. HOOVER: Thank you very much. MR. RINALDI: Do you have anything  else for us?  MR. BARRETT: No. I hope you don't  think it's rude, I'm going to take little man for some ice cream. I'm going to leave on the meeting. So, I'm sorry if I walk out the door.  MR. RINALDI: No, you're good.  Thank you very much for coming down. We  appreciate it.  MS. SHOTWELL: You also have a very  well behaved young man over there.  MR. BARRETT: He's my best buddy. MR. RINALDI: Nathan, thank you very  much.  MR. BARRETT: Thanks everybody. ALL MEMBERS: Thank you.    42  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MR. RINALDI: Debbie O'Neill. How  are you, Debbie? Good evening.  MS. O'NEILL: Good. How are you,  Russell?  MR. RINALDI: Good. Thank you.  What could we help you with?  MS. O'NEILL: I'm a resident of  Drakes Lane, or Drakes Lake, as we like to call it. I've addressed Council before in the past 20 years about the flooding problem there. I'm  sure you're all aware of it.  I said I think it was fate that I  met Mr. Barrett tonight because he's : I came here, I forgot them, I left them at home, I had a whole stack of the newspaper articles about grants that all these other municipalities were applying for to address their flooding  situation. I forgot them.  I - would hope that you would  consider that and that one of your priorities would be Drakes Lane. We had this enormous torrential downpour on Friday, we had a car towed out of there. I'm sure you're aware of  that. Yeah.  think people are of the opinion    43  that, Oh, the street fills up and then it drains, but there's sO much more to that.  2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  My neighbor had his blacktop peeled  from his driveway during the storm. We had to go out in the midst of the storm, take everything off of our patio, brand new summer furniture, grills, tables, etc., throw them out of the storm, pull our cars all the way up as far as we could, and it still missed seeping into my husband's truck by this much. Now, trucks are pretty high off the ground.  When this happens, we have tractor  trailers driving through creating tidal waves. The frontage of my house is a good 50 feet from the road, this rain, when this happens, comes up to eight feet of my front porch.  So now, you know, you get this :  it's not just the street draining, this is taking a toll on us. We're not getting any younger. This problem is not going away. The  cost is getting higher.  Ij just come here every sO many  years, my husband doesn't even come with me anymore. He's like, They don't care. They're not going to do anything. I tell him, They do    44  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  care. They're good people. We need to have this addressed. This has been going on for  decades now.  I would hope that if you do decide  to hire this gentleman you would make this a priority. I know you've done two engineering studies already, like, back in 2004 Harold said it would cost $250,000 to run a pipe from Moosic Road over to Drakes Lane. Then I was talking to my neighbors, they said now it's up to a million dollars you're talking about  running a pipe into the river.  So, now I'm not sure what the last  engineering study showed or how much you were quoted, but, again, like I said, the cost is going up and this has been going on for decades, and people are just, we're just sO frustrated and angry over there about all the inaction. I mean, we're paying taxes here and  nothing is being done to help us.  So, anything that you could do I  would really appreciate it.  MR. RINALDI: Quick question before  you end, do we have a current study on it, Joe, that you know about? I know our engineer isn't    45  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  here this evening, but are you aware of any  current study on it?  MR. LENCESKI: Not since I've been  street commissioner.  MR. RINALDI: Okay.  MR. LENCESKI: I belive when we were  on Council we had something on it.  MR. RINALDI: I know we did :  that's what I was going to say was because our engineer is not here this evening, he's on family vacation, but I would like to look at that and see what the current one is right now.  MS. O'NEILL: Yeah. I mean, DPW  comes over and they clean it. Sometimes they clean the drains. I go out a lot and I clean  it myself and :  MR. RINALDI: If you ever need the  drain cleaned prior to that, you call up here  at the borough building.  MS. O'NEILL: Right. But, no, I  hate that, though, because a lot of the  times  MR. RINALDI: No. Just call, Deb,  call right up :  MS. O'NEILL: It happens on a Sunday    46  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  night, the guys are off the clock. You know,  they are nice enough to come over.  MR. RINALDI: Listen, Joe would come  out in the storm, he'd get the guys to come  out. I mean, that's our job.  MS. O'NEILL: I appreciate it. MR. RINALDI: We would do it. MS. O'NEILL: I really do.  MR. RINALDI: You just call here and  let us know.  MS. O'NEILL: But, again, that's  being reactive, and by then it's too late. The street is full, the cars are stalled, you know?  You used to come over and put horses  out sO nobody would drive through. They don't even do that anymore. I mean, we just feel like we're on our own over there.  MR. RINALDI: Well, you're not on  your own. I know it sounds that way, but it is  the truth, you're not on your own.  And I don't want to say this, you  said this right in the beginning when you started speaking, and it is the truth, the rain did come down that day sO fast that every place, and I drove around to every place, every    47  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  member of Council, we were in a big group text, we were talking amongst each other for at least an hour that night, correct? And we were getting a lot of the areas in town that were  impacted by it.  And it's always the same four or  five areas, when it comes down that fast, it just - it's unfortunate, and I don't want to make it sound that way, like, well, yeah, because it just comes down fast and that's what you tell us, then it drains, but that evening, again, it did, it did come down so quick.  And I was driving around, I'm sure  other members were too. I drove around to some  of the spots.  And I live down that way, sO I had  tocome up that way, and I went through where you're talking about, extremely slow because I didn't want to do any damage to my car or anybody on the side of the road, and, obviously, you said when you go through you make waves, sO I made sure to go through. Does  everyone do that?  MS. O'NEILL: No.  MR. RINALDI: I'm sure they don't.    48  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MS. O'NEILL: And one of these days  it's not gonna stop raining. You know, the  storms are getting worse.  MR. RINALDI: Right. So, I mean - MS. O'NEILL: And it's just not :  (Inaudible crosstalk.)  MS. O'NEILL: You're gonna be taking  me out in a boat.  MR. RINALDI: No. And I'm not  saying we should just wait until it rains real  fast :  MS. O'NEILL: Yeah.  MR. RINALDI: : fills up and  drains. That's why I said, you know, let us take a look at the current study. I'm not 100 percent positive what it is. And we could get it off our engineer, we could look at it and  then :  MS. O'NEILL: I would love to know,  yeah, like, what -- something has got to be done. We have a six-inch pipe in there.  MR. RINALDI: If we have the current  study done, if the engineer has a copy of it,  we could have it by next week.  MS. O'NEILL: Well, how many studies    49  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  do you have to do, Russ? You did two already,  mean  MR. RINALDI: I'm just not sure what  the current one says, that's all I'm saying.  MS. O'NEILL: Okay.  MR. RINALDI: Like, I wouldn't be  able to give you a definitive answer tonight is what I'm trying to say, because I don't know  what the current one is.  MS. O'NEILL: A11 right. MR. RINALDI: You know? MS. O'NEILL: A17 right. Well,  I'17   MR. RINALDI: But if the current one  is done, and I'm sure it is, or we have one that was done a few years back,, then we could at least go off of that and see what the  potential plan is.  MS. O'NEILL: A17 right. Well,  thank you.  MR. RINALDI: You're welcome. Have  a good evening. Thanks, Debbie.  MS. O'NEILL: Okay.  MR. - RINALDI: Robert Zukauskas. how  are you, Robert? Good evening.    50  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: What is this notice  2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  here for something? Well, anyway, I just wanted to congratulate the girls softball team for making it to the quarter finals. That's quite an accomplishment. Joe, did you have any involvement in that? I know you're involved in  the girls :  MR. LENCESKI: My daughter was the  shortstop.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Shortstop. MR. NOTARI: Semi-finals.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: That's really good.  I'm just wondering is there an update on this Emlaw thing, this with the fines, Ron Emlaw, the fence guy? I'd like to know if there's an  update on that court case.  MR. RINALDI: Bill, do you have an ATTY. RINALDI: The case is still  update for Mr. Zukauskas?  pending and there's some fines sitting down at the magistrate, and further action will be taken : was taken. I'11 hear from the Court  tomorrow.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Okay. You know, the  reason I don't get involved with law very    51  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  often, the only problem I have with law enforcement, they took me off the bus in front of my house one time. I don't drive anymore,  so no parking tickets.  So, I don't understand what's going  on with it. The magistrate fined this guy, say, $1,000 a week or something, so he's : it's pending or it continues, why isn't he  paying it?  What happens is $1,000 a week, say,  okay, it's a continuance, or if there's finally a judgment, what happens to this guy? Like, he ordered $1,000 a week, and what's it been going on four or five weeks now? The fine is  probably about. $10,000.  So, now what do you think : so,  what happens if this guy - if this thing is finally settled? Who's gonna pay that $10,000? And who gets that money? Like, who enforces  this? Like, okay :  MR. RINALDI: Who enforces the fine? MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Yeah. Like, okay MR. RINALDI: The court. MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Well, okay. Who  goes : say I'm Ron Emlaw, say I'm this guy,    52  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  who's gonna come and say : who's gonna come to  my house and demand that fine?  MR. RINALDI: Well, the judge would  make a decision.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Okay.  MR. RINALDI: But we have to wait  until the court date for the judge to make a  decision.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: But didn't the judge  make that decision? Didn't he decide, what was it, $1,000 a week? Didn't he decide that? I mean, I just don't understand what's going on  here.  MR. RINALDI: Did the judge : no,  the judge didn't decide yet.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Well, what is this  thousand : where does this figure - like, for example, I dealt with this junk monkey down here, and Judge Seig, $100 fine plus court  costs.  So, he ended up paying less than  $200 for his junk on Main Street now. So, who collected - the court collected that money, and who got that $100? Where did that : did  the Borough get that $200?    53  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MR. RINALDI: Bill, where did the  money go?  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Where did the money  go?  ATTY. RINALDI: He would pay it at  the magistrate. The magistrate would give a  check to the Borough.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Oh, sO the Borough  would get that? So you would get that : so, you got say : 194.25, so you got that money from the junk monkey, and you're : so the Borough got that money, right? So, okay.  So, when this thing is all : say  it's thousands of dollars with this fence guy, sO you're gonna get that $10,000? That's your  money now?  MR. NOTARI: Not necessarily. MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Well, what -- MR. NOTARI: It depends on what the  judge decides.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Well, he :- doesn't  he decide :  MR. NOTARI: I mean, we've talked  about this ad nauseam. You have asked us and  we have given you answers.    54  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: No. I--  MR. NOTARI: Just like the example  of the Stoki case where the fine was over $500,000. The judge said, Let's fine him  20,000.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Okay.  MR. NOTARI: Again, it's up to the  courts. We have no decision :  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Oh, okay.  MR. NOTARI: : in making how much  is fined :  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: I understand that. MR. NOTARI: -- if the fine's  collected. That's not our department.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Who got that money?  Where does that money get deposited from Stoki?  Did the Borough :-  MR. NOTARI: Ib belive we haven't  gotten it, correct?  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: You didn't get that  yet?  ATTY. RINALDI: No, we got that. MR. - NOTARI: Oh, we did get that?  Okay.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Okay.    55  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MS. BARTOLETTI: Not the entire  amount.  MR. NOTARI: No. We got what the  judge says, the 20,000.  MR. RINALDI: Yeah. We got what the  judge decided.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Okay. So, with this  thing is going to now, sO there's a continuance on this right now, sO we're waiting for the next stage on this, is that where this thing is going right now? Is that where we're on this, Tike, continuance with this, with the fines and  all?  ATTY. RINALDI: No. He appealed it. MR. ZUKAUSKAS: He appealed it? MR. RINALDI: He appealed it. MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Oh, okay. So, the  continuances is up. Okay. He appealed it now.  ATTY. RINALDI: He gets a new  hearing in front of a county judge.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Okay. So, that's  what we're waiting for now.  ATTY. RINALDI: We're waiting for  that new hearing.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Okay. So, at the    56  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  new hearing, that's when the judge will decide, Okay, guy, you're gonna pay $10,000 to 01d Forge, or he's gonna dismiss it, and he's gonna say, Okay, you're right now, you're okay now, sO you don't owe anything now? That's what  this next step is? Is that it?  ATTY. RINALDI: It's a totally new  hearing on the same issue.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Okay.  ATTY. RINALDI: And the judge makes  a decision.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Oh, okay. I mean,  it just seems like it's going on for so long now. This guy is just getting : you know what, if somebody fined me $1,000 a week, you know, I'd be kind of worried about that.  You know, it's $100,000 and it just  seems, Okay, we'17 just see. We're waiting for the next hearing now. It just seems crazy now. Anyway, I don't want to get : that's all I had  to say about that.  Ij just want to bring one more thing  about this bring back the bench on the bus stop thing. I brought my friend here, he's your neighbor here now, sO he waits for the bus a    57  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  lot, and he has to bring his own walker now, and sO I'm wondering at one time you had the bench there now, sO if we could just bring it  back here. Where's that thing?  You know, you should bring back his  bench there. So, we're just gonna : if you  just : a pad there now, sO --  MR. NOTARI: Is he sitting? MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Yeah. He went and  had his own thing here now. So, this is what I, Mr. Rinaldi, just something like this. Something like this, I think like this, you  know?  CHIEF DUBERNAS: He doesn't sit and  wait for the bus. He sits there and smokes cigarettes. He picks up cigarettes off the ground and urinates there. So, he does not sit there waiting for the bus, Mr. Zukauskas.  I'm done hearing about you and the  bus stop. This man does not sit there and wait for the bus. He sits there, smokes cigarettes and urinates on the side of the building, because we told Serenity Care multiple times  about him.  So, don't try to stick up for the    58  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  guy and say he's waiting for a bus. He is not  waiting for a bus.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Is he recognized  by : is this how the meeting is -- I thought I had the floor. Does he have the floor now?  MR. NOTARI: You should be at the  podium.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Okay. I'11 be at  the podium now. The reason why I'm here is does he have something to say about this?  (Inaudible crosstalk.)  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Is he addressing me?  Is he addressing me?  MR. RINALDI: Mr. Zukauskas, is the  Chief :  (Inaudible crosstalk.)  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Okay. Go ahead. MR. RINALDI: You asked me a  question.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Yes.  MR. RINALDI: If the chief of police  has information pertaining to a situation that you're talking about, well, sure, he could give you that information. You don't want to give  the information?    59  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Well, he sounds like  he's reprimanding me here.  CHIEF DUBERNAS: You're trying to  stick up for a guys that's doing nothing what  you're  (Inaudible crosstalk.)  MR. RINALDI: Mr. Zukauskas, he was  informing you. He wasn't reprimanding you.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: He doesn't sound  like he's informing me.  MR. RINALDI: Well, he was giving  you information on the situation you were  talking about.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Okay. MR. NOTARI: Mr. Zukauskas : (Inaudible crosstalk.)  MR. NOTARI: : we have told you  numerous times, there will not be a bench placed there. Stop coming and asking for a  bench.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Is that the way this UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Yes. That's the  is gonna work out?  way it's gonna work out. Sit down already.  MR. NOTARI: Do you want us to vote    60  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  on it?  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: People are telling  me to sit down, is this the way this meeting  works? Like, this is ridiculous.  UNKNOWN SPEAKER: But it's kind of  ridiculous that you come here every freaking  meeting with the same :  MR. RINALDI: Gentlemen. Gentlemen.  Gentlemen. Mr. Zukauskas, if you guys want to talk about it outside, you could. Not in here.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Thank you. MR. RINALDI: Do you have anything  you'd like to address us with?  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: I want to get a  bench returned there for, you know, like, old people. You're doing this for the senior citizens there. You're making a senior, you know, don't you have any compassion for a person waiting for  you know, it takes all year waiting, it's very tiring sitting there,  standing there waiting for a bus.  MR. RINALDI: And is there benches  at other bus stops in 01d Forge?  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Yes. There's one  right in front of Dunkin Donuts.    61  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MR. RINALDI: Dunkin Donuts, that's  Dunkin Donuts' property, though. They own that. Dunkin Donuts owns that bench, not the  Borough.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Well, I would like  you to the consider bringing this back, Mr. Rinaldi, please. I mean, here's another one blue and gold. That's Duryea. You could  even Duryea colors and all.  And I think it's kind of unfortunate  here where I'm trying to make it a point here and people from the audience are addressing me or making comments. Now, I don't feel that is  a right way to :  MR. RINALDI: Well, Mr. Zukauskas,  you could :  (Inaudible crosstalk.) MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Excuse me,  Mr. Rinaldi :  MR. RINALDI: You could address them  yourself outside.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Yes.  MR. RINALDI: I addressed them. MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Thank you.  MR. RINALDI: I said you're at the    62  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  podium.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Thank you.  MR. RINALDI: You're speaking. And  if you guys want to talk amongst yourselves  outside  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: No.  MR. RINALDI: : that's fine. (Inaudible crosstalk.)  MR. RINALDI: In here, though, I MR. ZUKAUSKAS: I had business  addressed it.  between me and you and this Council. I have no business with anybody else here. That's all.  MR. RINALDI: And I addressed it,  and the gentleman politely stopped speaking and you started again. So, we addressed it.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: That's all I have.  Thank you.  MR. RINALDI: You're welcome.  Anyone else from the public before we move into new business? Karen, come on up. Just state  your name for the stenographer.  MS. PIEKARSKI: Karen Piekarski.  Russ, Jimmy and Jason were down the yard, it was inundated. If you want next meeting, I'11    63  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  print out the pictures.  MR. RINALDI: You don't : MR. NOTARI: No. He sent them. MR. RINALDI: Jimmy and the Chief,  both of them sent them that day to us.  MS. PIEKARSKI: I really don't care  about his highway permits or any of that stuff,  want the water taken care of.  MR. HOOVER: Karen, Billy has an  update.  ATTY. RINALDI: So, I took action.  Call me tomorrow.  MS. PIEKARSKI: Okay. And your  number?  ATTY. RINALDI: Just call Marylynn,  she'11 :  MS. PIEKARSKI: Marylynn? ATTY. RINALDI: Yeah.  MS. PIEKARSKI: A1l right. Thank  you.  ATTY. RINALDI: We'1l know tomorrow. MS. PIEKARSKI: A11 right. Because  the yard, you know Jimmy, it smelled.  MR. RINALDI: Yeah. We saw it,  Karen.    64  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MS. PIEKARSKI: It was totally  ridiculous.  MR. RINALDI: Jimmy and the Chief  sent it right out.  MR. HOOVER: The Chief sent the  video to Billy. Billy saw it. I sent  everybody the pictures.  (Inaudible crosstalk.)  ATTY. RINALDI: Monday and today,  and I'11 know tomorrow.  MS. PIEKARSKI: Thank you. MR. HOOVER: But let me ask you a  question.  MS. PIEKARSKI: Go ahead.  MR. HOOVER: When that water comes  down Moosic Road, Karen :  MS. PIEKARSKI: Yeah.  MR. HOOVER: : who put that lip,  that asphalt Tip there?  MS. PIEKARSKI: The state did,  because then it was coming in our basement.  MR. HOOVER: Okay.  MR. RINALDI: Could I ask you a  question?  MR. HOOVER: You get it either way.    65  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MS. PIEKARSKI: So, it's either  coming in your basement, and the state did that  to go into that drainage area.  MR. RINALDI: Did the state put it  in when they redid all the sidewalks?  MS. PIEKARSKI: Yeah. It was  August.  MR. RINALDI: Oh, they put it in  recently?  MS. PIEKARSKI: Maybe three years  ago we stopped getting water in the yard.  MR. RINALDI: Is that when they were  doing all the sidewalks around :  MS. PIEKARSKI: When they black  topped the road.  MR. RINALDI: Yeah. When the gas MS. PIEKARSKI: Yeah. Correct.  company put in all the gas.  Correct.  MR. HOOVER: So, that water was in  that :  MS. PIEKARSKI: He did it.  MR. HOOVER: It was in that trench,  it was back in that little swale area behind  your house?    66  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MS. PIEKARSKI: Yes. Because at  first Jason's, I think I found your problem. No. He did that because anyone that knows, I remember, Rick, when you said, It's a river. It was all :- our whole yard and then it'd come  in the basement.  MR. HOOVER: Jump over the curb.  Okay.  MS. PIEKARSKI: So, August, I  probably have his name. They call him Gus. I have to look it up. I have it somewhere.  MR. HOOVER: That's okay. MS. PIEKARSKI: But he's with the  state and he said : he had a hose running making sure it went into that drainage sO it won't come in the yard, and it doesn't, but now that that ditch is all filled in when he had that backhoe or whatever vehicle, it's all filled in, and you saw, Jimmy, it's a river going down the walls, you know, that wall.  And you know the smell. So, we're  trying to rake in 95 degree weather. We're doing sections. But the whole : you saw it.  MR. HOOVER: I saw it, yeah. MS. PIEKARSKI: And you did. But,    67  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  yeah, if that swale wasn't there, it would be  in the yard.  MR. HOOVER: Hopefully we'1l have  some good news tomorrow.  MS. PIEKARSKI: And the house.  Thank you.  MR. RINALDI: You're welcome.  Thanks, Karen. Anyone else from the public before we move in to new business?  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Yes, Mr. Rinaldi, I  just want one more thing. More than once you people are saying, I mentioned this more than once bringing a topic on, and you've heard about this, you're not gonna do anything, you don't want to hear it again. I don't think  that's proper.  You know, okay, you're not gonna do  it again, but is there a limit? You could just mention this once, we're not gonna do it, so shut up, we don't want to hear it anymore.  Is that the way we're gonna run  this? I can't mention this anymore because you  mentioned :  MR. RINALDI: Mr. Zukauskas, you  could come to the podium whenever you want and    68  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  mention anything to me.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Thank you. MR. RINALDI: I'11 give you my  answer. If any member of Council at this table wants to give you an answer, I can't control what comes out of their mouth. I can only  control what comes out of mine.  You could address me with anything  you want, and you could address them, too. And if you want to hear an answer from them, ask them. If you want to hear an answer from me, ask me, I'11 be glad to give it to you.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: So, if I come up  next week and I want to talk about the bus stop and somebody - you're not gonna : or  somebody's not gonna say, Shut up and sit down?  We don't :  MR. RINALDI: I do not know if  anyone's going to tell you to shut up.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Is that gonna be  allowed?  MR. RINALDI: I won't tell you to  shut up. I - don't know what anyone else is  gonna tell you.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Well, I've heard    69  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  them.  MR. RINALDI: Well, Mr. Zukauskas,  you're asking me to predict the future of  somebody else. I - can't.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Okay. No. I - just  think there should be a little bit more order here the way the meeting is run. That's just  my opinion. Thank you.  MR. RINALDI: You're welcome. MR. NOTARI: Mr. Zukauskas. MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Yes, sir? MR. NOTARI: You ask the same  question every month and we   MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Yeah and : (Inaudible crosstalk.) MR. NOTARI: Can I finish now? MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Yes.  MR. NOTARI: I let you speak. Can I  speak?  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Yes, you can. MR. NOTARI: You ask the same  question every month, we give you the same answer every month. Why would you keep  answering the same question?  Also, you want to talk about a    70  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  professional way to run a meeting, you're lucky Mr. Rinaldi is sO open to allowing the way people speak. Not just you, everybody. You go to other meetings around the county and you  have two minutes.  MS. SHOTWELL: Two minutes.  MR. NOTARI: About borough business,  not about anything else.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: I understand that. MR. NOTARI: And about borough  business that concerns you, not your neighbor  or not somebody else.  So, you should feel very fortunate  that Mr. Rinaldi is sO welcoming to you to come to the podium and ask every month the same question when you know you're going to get the  same answer.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Can I say something  else?  MR. NOTARI: That's up to  Mr. Rinaldi.  MR. RINALDI: Sure.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: One last thing.  With this junk monkey I did the same, came every twice a month now, and that's the only    71  way things got done, is you keep pounding away. If you just mention it one time and all, they say, Okay, we're gonna wait a week, a year or : it's you just keep pounding away and just keep mentioning it and maybe it'17 sink in.  2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  That's the only thing.  MS. SHOTWELL: Mr. Zukauskas. If I  may?  MR. RINALDI: Yes.  MS. SHOTWELL: And we've never  spoken before.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Yes.  MS. SHOTWELL: But I think you're  talking about two different things here. You're talking about something that requires a  process and steps to be taken :  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Yes.  MS. SHOTWELL: : like the poor  Piekarskis that come here every month, and God bless them, and you had an issue with a neighbor, but you're talking about a bench that nobody up here wants. If we wanted the bench, it would be there. We do not want the bench there. We have given you our answer.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Right.    72  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MS. SHOTWELL: We're not talking  about a process. We're talking about we made a  decision.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Right.  MS. SHOTWELL: I understand you  don't like it :  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Right.  MS. SHOTWELL: : but we don't want  a bench there.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Right. Can I just  say one last thing?  MS. SHOTWELL: Certainly. MR. ZUKAUSKAS: You don't want a  bench, but just consider it, though, the bench for a senior citizen, me and other people sitting down and waiting for it. But that's  all.  Just consider you have senior  citizens in line where you're talking about the senior center or St. Lawrence Church and all that, great. Now, that's fine now. I wish the  best of you for that.  A17 we want is a bench there. You  know, you're not asking for a billion dollars. That benefits the seniors, too. That's all.    73  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MAYOR LEGG: Mr. Notari just gave  you an answer, Mr. Zukauskas  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Yes. I know. I  know.  MAYOR LEGG: : and you won't accept  it.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Okay. I know. MAYOR LEGG: My Lord. There's not  going to be a bench there.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: I understand. MAYOR LEGG: And for you to not like  the way the meetings are run, I think Mr. Rinaldi runs a great meeting.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: He does. I agree. MAYOR LEGG: Okay. So, for you to  say otherwise, now you're out in outer space  someplace.  MR. - ZUKAUSKAS: Okay. I apologize  here. I apologize.  MAYOR LEGG: No, no, apologize to  him.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: I apologize. MR. RINALDI: Thank you.  MAYOR LEGG: My God, give it a rest.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: Okay.    74  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MAYOR LEGG: Two years, the same  thing over and over and over and we give you the same answer and then next month you ask the  same question.  MR. ZUKAUSKAS: It hasn't been two  years.  MAYOR LEGG: Oh, more than that.  More than that. I got the scars to prove it.  I'm sorry, Mr. Rinaldi.  MR. RINALDI: No, you're okay.  We're going to move into new business. First item under new business there's going to be a motion to approve payment application number two to Linde Corporation. The amount is  $10,235.00.  MR. HOOVER: I'11 make that motion. MR. RINALDI: Motion on the floor by  Councilman Hoover.  MR. BUTLER: Second.  MR.  RINALDI: Second by Councilman  Butler. On the question?  MR. NOTARI: On the question, this  is for which project?  MR. HOOVER: The Josephine Street  project.    75  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MR. NOTARI: Josephine? (Inaudible crosstalk.) MR. NOTARI: Okay. Thank you. MR. HOOVER: There was one change  order there for 21 hundred : or $1,400 because  of the sewer pipe they did.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Correct. MR. HOOVER: Otherwise, it went  pretty well, and she hasn't been back, sO  that's a good sign.  MR. RINALDI: Okay. On the  question?  (No response.)  MR. RINALDI: Public input?  (No response.)  MR. RINALDI: Rol7 call, please. MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilwoman  Shotwell?  MS. SHOTWELL: Yes. MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman  Komensky?  MR. KOMENSKY: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Notari?  MR. NOTARI: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Butler?    76  MR. BUTLER: Yes.  2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Hoover?  MR. HOOVER: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Rinaldi? MR. RINALDI: Yes. Second item is  going to be a memorandum of understanding between the City of Scranton and the 01d Forge Borough. Bill, could you just give us the  information on that, please?  ATTY. RINALDI: So, it's a  memorandum of understanding with the City of Scranton and other municipalities that sign on to consider and explore a cooperative way to address storm water planning and management with the City, 01d Forge Borough, and there's some other areas, Taylor, Dunmore. I'm not  sure all that have signed on.  So, you're just : it's explore and  cooperate, that's it. No other commitments.  MR. RINALDI: The Chair would  entertain a motion at this time to approve the  memorandum.  MS. SHOTWELL: I'11 make that  motion, Mr. Chairman.  MR. RINALDI: Motion on the floor by    77  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  Councilwoman ones-Shotwell.  MR. BUTLER: Second.  MR. RINALDI: Second by Councilman  Butler. On the question?  (No response.)  MR. RINALDI: Public input?  (No response.)  MR. RINALDI: Roll call, please. MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilwoman  Shotwell?  MS. SHOTWELL: Yes. MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman  Komensky?  MR. KOMENSKY: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Notari?  MR. NOTARI: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Butler?  MR. BUTLER: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Hoover?  MR. HOOVER: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Rinaldi? MR. RINALDI: Yes. Third item is a  motion to approve the quotation for the American Asphalt Company for Edgewood Drive.  MR. BUTLER: I'17 make the motion.    78  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MR. RINALDI: The amount? MS. BARTOLETTI: I just wanted to  give you the update. We had three quotations, 13,250 is American Asphalt, and then we also had a quotation of $15,050 and $16,375 from, let me just get the names for you sO it's on record. Stafursky is 16,375, and then : well,  you have the amounts.  American Asphalt is the low bidder.  And then I'11 just give you the other name at  another time.  MR. RINALDI: Okay. So, motion's  going to be to award American Asphalt the Edgewood Drive quotation for the amount of  $13,250.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Correct.  MR. NOTARI: I'11 make that motion,  Mr. Chairman.  MR. RINALDI: Motion on the floor by  Councilman Notari.  MR. BUTLER: I'17 second it. MR. RINALDI: Second by Councilman  Butler. On the question?  MR. NOTARI: On the question.  Marylynn, could we please ask Dave to notify    79  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  the residents when the project is going to happen, because it's going to block their  driveway?  MS. BARTOLETTI: Yep.  MR. NOTARI: So, let's not have a  repeat of Josephine Street, please. Thank you.  MR. RINALDI: You're welcome. On  the question?  MAYOR LEGG: That's thinking ahead. MR. RINALDI: That was good  thinking. Public input?  (No response.)  MR. RINALDI: Roll call, please. MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilwoman  Shotwell?  MS. SHOTWELL: Yes. MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman  Komensky?  MR. KOMENSKY: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Notari?  MR. NOTARI: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Butler?  MR. BUTLER: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Hoover?  MR. HOOVER: Yes.    80  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Rinaldi?  MR. RINALDI: Yes.  ATTY. RINALDI: Just a motion to  approve our comment letter to DEP for the  alliance complication.  MR. RINALDI: Add it or just : ATTY. RINALDI: Just approve it. MR. RINALDI: Okay. Fourth item is  gonna be a motion to approve the comment letter : to waste management7  ATTY. RINALDI: Yep.  MS. SHOTWELL: I'17 make that  motion, Mr. Chairman.  MR. RINALDI: Motion on the floor by  Councilwoman Jones-Shotwell.  MR. HOOVER: I'11 second it. MR. RINALDI: Second by Councilman  Hoover. On the question?  (No response.)  MR. RINALDI: Public input?  (No response.)  MR. RINALDI: Roll call, please. MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilwoman  Shotwell?  MS. SHOTWELL: Yes.    81  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman  Komensky?  MR. KOMENSKY: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Notari?  MR. NOTARI: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Butler?  MR. BUTLER: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Hoover?  MR. HOOVER: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Rinaldi? MR. RINALDI: Yes. No more items  under new business. We'11 go down the table, we'1l see if anyone has anything before we adjourn. We'17 start off, Mayor Legg.  MAYOR LEGG: Thank you,  Mr. Chairman.  MR. RINALDI: You're welcome. MAYOR LEGG: I think you run a great  meeting.  MR. RINALDI: Thank you. I  appreciate that.  MAYOR LEGG: That's all I have. MR. RINALDI: Thank you.  Councilwoman ones-Shotwell?  MS. SHOTWELL: I don't have anything    82  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  tonight. Thank you.  MR. RINALDI: You're welcome.  Councilman Komensky?  MR. KOMENSKY: So, I would like to  first of all thank Joe and the police department and the fire department for Friday and everybody that spent time, even the Borough staff here, trying to get the building taken  care of and the roads.  - know everybody was on text, it  worked out pretty good. So, I just want to say  thank you.  And I'd also like to bring up the  comment again that we have the discussion about the two-minute timer at the meetings.  MR. HOOVER: I'11 buy a new one. MR. KOMENSKY: In light of tonight's  meeting. it on.  MR. RINALDI: Jimmy did try to turn  MR. KOMENSKY: Okay. MR. RINALDI: And it was MR. KOMENSKY: Okay.  MR. HOOVER: It rang one bell. MR. KOMENSKY: If we could have that    83  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  discussion, I'd appreciate it. That's all I  have.  MR. RINALDI: You're welcome.  Councilman Notari?  MR. NOTARI: I would just like to  congratulate Coach Pat Revello and his softball team on another tremendous year bringing pride once again to our Borough. What a run.  Joe, you were part of it with your  daughter. I couldn't be more happy for the girls and proud of them for what they  accomplished this year, and looking forward to  next year.  MR. HOOVER: I think we should ask  them if they want to be part of the parade.  MS. SHOTWELL: Absolutely. MAYOR LEGG: Absolutely.  MS. SHOTWELL: A hundred percent. MR. NOTARI: That's a good idea. MS. SHOTWELL: Get a banner. MR. HOOVER: Get a banner for them. MR. NOTARI: Yeah. That's a good  idea.  MR. HOOVER: Put the banner at Pat's  restaurant.    84  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MS. SHOTWELL: Great idea. We need  to get that on the books, too.  MR. RINALDI: Councilman Butler? MR. BUTLER: I C don't have anything.  Thank you.  MR. KOMENSKY: So, I just said to  Ricky, why don't we ask them to come to the next meeting, call Pat and ask them to come sO  we could recognize them.  MAYOR LEGG: That's a good idea. MR. RINALDI: Yeah. That's a great  idea.  MAYOR LEGG: Very good idea. MR. KOMENSKY: Okay? MR. RINALDI: Yeah. MR. KOMENSKY: Thank you. MR. RINALDI: You're welcome. MR. KOMENSKY: Sorry.  MR. RINALDI: No. No problem. No,  no, that's a good idea. Councilman Butler?  MR. BUTLER: I'm good. Thank you. MR. RINALDI: You're welcome.  Councilman Hoover?  MR. HOOVER: I'm good.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Russ, just one    85  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  thing. So I just wanted to be on record that  the other bid was Pennsy Supply.  MR. RINALDI: Pennsy Supply. MS. BARTOLETTI: Okay? So, it's  part of the minutes. And I just had one other thing to ask about if it's possible to move the July meeting from the 16th to the 23rd?  MR. KOMENSKY: July?  ATTY. RINALDI: I can't make the  16th one.  MR. RINALDI: I'm good with it if  everyone else is okay with it.  MR. KOMENSKY: Yeah. MS. BARTOLETTI: Good? MR. RINALDI: Good. MS. BARTOLETTI: Okay. MR. RINALDI: Bill, before we  adjourn, we need to make a motion to move the  meeting?  ATTY. RINALDI: Sure.  MR. RINALDI: Okay. At this time  the Chair will entertain a motion to move our July meeting : or you want to move the regular  meeting, correct?  MS. BARTOLETTI: The regular meeting    86  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  first.  MR. RINALDI: The regular meeting  from July 16, 2024 to July 23, 2024.  MR. KOMENSKY: I'11 make that  motion.  MR. RINALDI: Motion on the floor by  Councilman Komensky.  MR. BUTLER: I'11 second it. MR. RINALDI: Second by Councilman  Butler. On the question?  (No response.)  MR. RINALDI: Public input?  (No response.)  MR. RINALDI: Roll call, please. MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilwoman  Shotwell?  MS. SHOTWELL: Yes. MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman  Komensky?  MR. KOMENSKY: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Notari?  MR. NOTARI: Yes.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Butler?  MR. BUTLER: Yes.  MS. - BARTOLETTI: Councilman Hoover?    87  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25  MR. HOOVER: Yeah, I should be able  to make it back.  MS. BARTOLETTI: Councilman Rinaldi? MR. RINALDI: Yes. I have no items,  as well. At this time, the Chair would entertain a motion to adjourn.  MS. SHOTWELL: I'11 make that  motion.  MR. RINALDI: Motion on the floor by  Councilwoman Jones-Shotwell. A17 in favor?  ALL MEMBERS: Aye.  (Meeting adjourned.)    88  1 2 3 4  CERTIFICATE  Ih hereby certify that the proceedings and evidence are contained fully and accurately in the 5 notes taken by me of the above-cause and that this copy 6 is a correct transcript of the same to the best of my  7 ability. 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23  O/N  Mohlk Michelle Smolskis Official Court Reporter  (The foregoing certificate of this transcript does not 24 apply to any reproduction of the same by any means unless under the direct control and/or supervision of  25 the certifying reporter.)