163  CARTERET COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS  REGULAR SESSION COMMISSIONERS BOARDROOM JUNE 17, 2024 6:00 P.M.  Commissioners Present: Chairman Jimmy Farrington, Vice-Chairman Mark Mansfield, David Quinn, Chris Chadwick, Ed Wheatly, Bob Cavanaugh, and Chuck Staff Present: Tommy Burns, County Manager; Dee Meshaw, Deputy County Manager/Finance Director; Gene Foxworth, Assistant County Manager/Planning Director; Ray Hall, IT Director; Sharon Griffin, Interim County Attorney; and Lori  Shinn  Turner, County Clerk  . Meeting Called to Order/Pledge of Alleglancelinyocation Allegiance and Rev. Tammy Lee offered the invocation. II. Conflict of Interest/Cell Phone Statement  Chairman Farrington called the meeting to order at 6PM. Vice-Chairman Mansfield led the Pledge of  Chairman Farrington read the conflict ofi interest statement and reminded all those present to silence Chairman Farrington stated he would need to recuse himself from Item 8 on the consent agenda.  their cell phones.  III. Adoption of Agenda  Vice-Chairman Mansfield made a motion to amend the agenda by adding XI.A., Discussion on Boards and Commissions. Seconded by Commissioner Wheatly. The vote was unanimous. Commissioner Chadwick made a motion to approve the amended agenda. Seconded by  Commissioner Cavanaugh. The vote was unanimous.  IV. Consent Agenda  1. Approval of the May 20, 2024 Regular Session 2. Tax Administrator's Report/Release & Refunds! a. Tax Administrator's Report for May 2024  Minutes NCVTS Reports:    164  Corerer Count Tax AGministration  dminttrao Report Laxx Graber 02 Rat  37. 2024  b. May 2024 Release and Refund Reports  oreret County Tax Administration  2024 dasicsisna) or 18 in o woste Rolooses: 12 $3.404.67  ane oF Mcy 31. 2024  A auradiction  aax Totct  Totat  C. May 2024 NCVTS Refund Report  North Carolina Vehicle Tax Systen Pending Refund Report  EP    165    166  3. Approval of the following Budget Amendments:  a. $22,560,000 Project Ordinance Amendment Appropriating  School Bond Proceeds OPA  CARTERET COuNTY FINANCE  Tak 3,3 28 3  Boare Dee of Doputy County Manager  Sohooi ssond  obligation & ne  Func Projoct  Amendment ropriating ech for prov  B22 for is  deration $22. 560, 000 prsts the ordinance: amen  amadmn m June 034   b. $460,000 for GASB 96 IT Subscriptions for DSS and Finance, This is al NoncasnyComplance Budget Amendment  CARTERET COUNTY FINANCE  Beniee uty H. Mesi Finance  ax: 2)  om: the Depe for ments your became: ancther ntitye and for simply  Dee Ve Commies Doputy County Managar GASB 96 Subsoriptione Budget Amendment  is $460. budget June: mndment, 30, mendment. attached budger lability.  for GASB 96 IT subsorptions. for  tain 2023. ascriptions the righe lard use  is sma  C. $9,686,000 Appropriates the Proceeds of the Water System Sale  to a Separate Capital Fund for Future Projects  CARTERET COUNTY FINANCE  Denise M. Finance Peputy  CPA  Tel:. 252) 7286153  countyne  To: rom: Subject: times during the Fund and system - and  Board Menhaw, of Commissic Deputy County Manager June Water 17. Fund 2024 Budget  Attached fors other yours revenues. consideration! is a budget balance amendment) that projects. its The future projects will. be determined! by the the funds a separate recommendod ransforring for approval. the funds to a designated capital fund. The  000 of system fund a at at future obligations rega arding budget e  process. County' hast utfilled Board 5  and. memo    167  24 To er  oa   : Ompital  8.  rund  4. Approval of the RFPS for Carteret County Debris angm-Remoaictong RFPs can be viewed by contacting the Carteret County Clerk.  Due to the size of the RFPs, they have not been included in the minutes. Copies of the 5. Approval of the Custodial Services Contractwith Integrity National Corp.  PLANNING ANJD DFVELOPMENT  Foxworth Director  252 2288  MEMORANDUM  DATE: TO: Junez Carteret 7. 2024 County Board of Commissioners cc: FROM: Tommy Eugene Burns, Foxworth, Assistent Manager County Manager RE: Custodial Servico Contract Corporation Publlc uine   bic al $24.475.05 per Pleasel Jet me if> you have any questions  wo haves to the end of thet dally, wesily torm. of our annually ouront Custodial: er Sorvices vice. The Contraot. low both: The citizens integrity  to Wo Sv8 scommend award of thls proposal. their request.  Custodial Servicos Bid Tab 28. 2024 C 9:00 AMEST.  CARTERET COUNTY GOVERNMEN  252-640-7877  Bid cfoaing  Company Top Notoh Sarpet & Intoority Nolsmings  Monthly Total $38.848.00 $24,47505  Addstignn Price SOFT 1.30  Due to the length of the Integrity National Corp. contract, it has not been included in the minutes. A copy of the contract has been retained in County Records and can be viewed  by contacting the County Clerk.  6. Approval of the Letter of Support of the NC Department of Transportation Ferry Division's Application for the Rural Ferry Program Grant to Replace the M/V Silver Lake Vessel    168  BE June 17, 2024 MMs. Vant New Jersey avenue, Federal ington, DC: 20590 Dear Ms. Vanterpoot This Rural Ferry is In Swan MAV Siiver Lake routes. provides The service: M/V mcross Lakei the ET Is past les useful Vesset priority Replacer for the Seudy. Ferry Replacine Division, noting as Ocracoke Justice: census Screenine Tool The NCDOT Ferry and  Trensportation,  Ferry DMvision Rural Ferry Program Replacement oft the  Vessel (M/v) Silver Lake and passenger Ferry Division's mpplication for  and  of the North Grant to replace m/v Silver IE: also supports the highlights that  of Transportation Sound along the Cedar for ce usticeso to the Cedar istand, Quare ter and nitlative, are the CHimate . and aged Carolina,  Ocracoke and Stiver Lake to recent and #E also wil North  Is maneinal physical condition vears old the  maintain their fleet and continue to provide would provide needed updates to the Ferry critical in to helping region repare for and respond to. hurr ovement of soods and Carolina. strengthen the operations resitiency of the Ferry Diviston, other: which is This to  services. vital smaportation services in  vours consideration. of this  Farr  hairman, Carteret County Board of Commisioners ---  c----o  8. Approval of the Raymond's Gut Dredging Contract and Budget Amendment  PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT  Direotor Eugene DATE: June 10, 2024 TO: co: Tommy Burns. County Manager FROM: Eugener Foxworth.. Aesistant County Manager RE: Raymond's Gut Dredging Project As above: aware the project. Waterways applled Manegement: and: Committoe reviowed: and and matched this with funds the ecelved bid fort being the third bid thet first time, the nelghboring ecor nd Please letr me know Ir your have any  Office Phone 252-: 252- 728-0545 222- 5833  MEMORANDUM  Board of Commiasioners    funding from the Shallow Draft moving forward with iwo rs. the thind project time. was Navigation bid three Fund  Dredging provided the bid In the amount rom of 450. Marine We Structures ecommend and award Coastal of Dredging LLC. two Coastal we  this bid.  Due to the size of the Coastal Dredging Contract, it has not been included in the minutes. A copy of the contract has been retained in county records and can be viewed  by  contacting the County Clerk.  9. Approval of the DSS Exterior Repairs and Painting Contract with Commercial  Roofing Systems, Inc. $42,532.00    169  PLANINING AND DEVELOPMENT  222 8545 6633 282  Eugone' Foxworth Director  waston Orfice  MEMORANDUM  DATE: June 7.: 2024 County Board of Commissioners FROM: Eugenet Foxworth. Assistant County Manager in lort that minor thres and: this Buing. Systems In the mount of $42,532. 00.' Wo Please let me know If you* have any questions concerning their request.  TO: oc: Tommy Burna, RE: Social Bu di ings  Manager Exterior Repairs and Painting  Asprt of preventatinel maintonance program wo Icentifled some areas of allings. Social and Servines  The! low award CS their bid.  was  Roofing  biat B  CARTERET COUNTY GOVERNMEN  Phone: 252-648-7877  Dopartment of Social Services Exterior epairs and Painting  Bid. Tab  Bici atoeing date: May 30. 2024 @ 9:00 AM EST. Company Commeroian Roofing ystoms. Inc. Constr ruotion Davies Contracting  Base Bia #42,632.00 $72,200.00 127.87268  Inc. Contract, it has not been included  Due to the size of the Commercial Roofing Systems, viewed by contacting the County Clerk.  A  of the contract has been retained in county records and can be  in the minutes. copy  10. Approval to Allow the Health Department Dental Program Apply for a Grant to Purchase a Vehicle to Carry Portable  Dental Equipment sanganty n uamss Ms acos NIna, Mgiver. MS 8333 alese- Adame To: Em Subject: The: for: Garteret estimated Cos6 carry portable childre: dental n oleani equipm 9s and and Eallow the heaith program dopartment: dental tneso sor our W PGPCNZ.EANS grant. $10K Denise H. Moshaw, CPA Deputy County Manager Department To: Date: From: Subject:  SARIMHBESPMA Director funding tal would would atment. It will for nicdle in: aity of: dental ar n any estions.  Euen  arteret Gounty Board of Commissions Board Heaithn Department Dental 000 to you  Nina pliver, County Public  May Request 31.. 2024 to Apply to a Red Rock Grant for Dental Equipment  wouid to apply for a Rod Rock Grant  set wp schools high to age to providen us in for County Health Department to apply you. Threshold from $5K to  County accepte Medicnid. community that ing need a help with their grant health. The: 11. Approval to Increase the Equipment Capitalization  regest Board's approval for plonse: the Carteret contact  CARTERET COUNTY FINANCE  Tel: (252) 728-8410 Fax: (252) 728-0133 sosctsamySA gov carteretcountyne  Board Dee of Commissioners. Deputy County Manager June 17, 2024 Equipmont Capitalization  Threshold  For your consideration. is a rscommendation, to increase has not, the been equipment increased capitalization since. 2005. threshold The County from is nowi $5, 000 in a to ituation $10,000. of capitalizing equipment reporting. that This should change will be capitalizisd ffective  on thet financial statements for financial statement fiscal year 2024 and going forward.    170  12. Approval of the Paragon Partners Agreement  4 4 4 RINER: June: 11,2024 Tommy Burns Carteret County Manager 210 Beanfort, NC: 28516 This: It and quirements: of and regulations regarding RAGON of month In associated require outside: All Seilwell. Sincerely. Philip R. Isley APPROVED. AND AGREED: CARTERET COUNTX, NORTH CAROLINA By: Dater  0 2  R. Isle  1117  Mr. Burns: and esteemed Commissioners of Carteret County: Thanks for the opportunity to represent Carteret County, upon execution, confirms that PARAGON has been Carolina General and not an agent, represent the Carolina, providing consulting. and applicable and sovermment:  withs your: proposal on of Parago of CCNC, Partners. winl LLC CPARAGONS NC! CCCNC. to represent This CCNC: letter and. goals in policy and/or legislative matters. government: relations services to achieve epesentation. It is understood: CCNC: and conflicting will with or inimical to all personnel reasonable asures to prs otect the of representation: confdences of in the Confidentiality shall given the by termination. you: your: spresentative to  constitute agreement.  retaimed, of CCNC an of the State of North the with all mpplicable contract. confidence and to such unless information. of agreement. by for any reason  that will PARAGON not engagei will: in any best efforts in furtherance of this epresentation is express and partners: and PARAGON: will be: lcept CCNC. confidential All discussions between As fivel compensation hundred dollars Fox these ($7, 500) services. per: PARAGON: will be paid a fixced fee of seven thousand thirty is binding June 31, 2025, unless PARAGON. terminated commencing July 1, 2024. This to fees the C$500 monthly: for fee, CCNC will be, responsible for principal and  ethics, to  PARAGON or  undertaken lobbying while fling under rogulations, and state election  all as speces notice. principal ande  of month, firom to PARAGON in advance on first day  (30) days  lobbyist per year) lobbyistCs) and for over: C$.50) ne hundred per mile and any and any required supporting oanirations. and/or retain CCNC that it statemen t of work. There other additional par ties. may If between responsibsy of CCNC and additional shanl CCNC and PARAGON.  xpenses related to representation by will be submitted overmight for lodging.. approval Any: reimbursable. documentation detailing such fees and expenses. join: IE is understood. and/or: sponsor: pare certain ofthis state, agreement, that PARAGON may reco to accomplish the goals national, of the or be reumancesT where it advantageous agreed are taken by CCNC, parties retained on behalF. of CCNC membership shall the Foes, dues, and/or: sompensation of any notl be part of the fee covered by this agreement be This services greement: will be is. provided: into within the context of the fee arangements. laws shall govern its inters pretation pursuane and enforcement to the laws of the State of North deseribed Carolina, which above- principles. PARAGON on Any: behalf questions OE CCNC: about the terms of this agreement without or regard the status: to conflicts of Ift agreement the foregoing terms aceeptable please  in exccess: of fifty C50) miles at a rate on of behalf nrty cents of CCNC. including those that winll be paid within 30 before days of incuxred. receipt of Tt is understood that such dollars and C$100)  to  CCNC to  Of1 law  should be directed to the attention of Philip Isley work and by Zane  on behalf of CCNC. We: look forward sign to below working to indicate: your approval oft this  with srou. - 5 Zane B. II  ARAGON PARTNERS, LLC By: Philip R.Isles ) Date: na11.2024 By: ZananswL Date: ne11.2024  2345  Vice-Chairman Mansfield made a motion to remove item 71 from the consent agenda. Seconded  by Commissioner Cavanaugh. The vote was unanimous with Chairman  Farrington not casting a  vote.  Commissioner Cavanaugh made a motion to adopt the consent agenda as amended. Seconded  by Commissioner Chadwick. The vote was unanimous with Commissioner  Farrington recused  from the vote.    171  V. Recognition of the April, May, and June 2024 Recipients of the Jaime Hicks Long Employee  of the Month Award  Mr. Nick Wilson stated good evening, Commissioners and residents, tonight, we are here to celebrate the outstanding contributions of three exceptional team members who have been recognized as the Jaime Hicks Long Employees oft the Month for April, May, and June 2024. First upi for April is Shi Odom. Shi serves as the Branch Manager at the Carteret County Public Library System in Beaufort. Shi has been with the library system for 13 years, showcasing exceptional dedication and expertise. As Branch Manager, she oversees daily operations, assists patrons with information, books, movies, and provides support with computers, fax, and copy machines. Shi is known for her extensive knowledge on a wide range of topics, making her the go-to person at the Beaufort branch. She recently demonstrated her creativity through a' "yarn art" library program, creating colorful yarn displays on canvas. Shi goes above and beyond in assisting patrons, including helping a visitor trace their family history by exhaustively researching various sources and collaborating with the local museum. Shi's commitment to excellence, creativity, and community service makes her deserving oft this recognition. Congratulations, Shi. Moving ont to May, is Lindsey Burton, Administrative Officer for Carteret County Economic Development. Lindsey plays a pivotal role in our community's economic growth. She implements and coordinates programs that foster at thriving business environment, showcasing her strong analytical skills and dedication to business success. Lindsey exceeds expectations by bringing creativity to our social media content and being an outstanding team player, always ready to assist others efficiently. Her willingness to help extends beyond her team, supporting the Small Business Center and providing valuable guidance to new employees. Lindsey's attention to detail is evident in her responsible resource management, ensuring effective use of resources. She consistently delivers exceptional customer service, promptly responding to questions with a friendly and professional demeanor. Congratulations, Lindsey. Your dedication and commitment Lastly, for June, we celebrate Janet Cannon, Economic Services Quality Assurance Analyst with DSS. Janet, who has been with the county since 2010, ensures compliance with federal and state requirements in social service income maintenance programs. She conducts quality control reviews of Work First Cash Assistance, Food & Nutrition Services, and Medicaid cases. Janet's positive attitude and diligence were evident as she reviewed state-requested cases for audit and uploaded case information into NC FAST, leading to exceptional audit scores. Beyond her professional duties, Janet supports community awareness of Gabriel Babies, a program through her church that helps mothers in crisis by providing supplies and clothing geared to the baby's first year of life. Her referral to this program not only saves our agency money but significantly benefits clients. Janet's care and compassion for clients and colleagues make her an invaluable part of our team. Congratulations to. Janet for her outstanding contributions and well-deserved These remarkable individuals-Shi, Lindsey, and Janet--represent excellence within our team. Their hard work, dedication, and commitment to our community are truly commendable. Please join Chairman Farrington presented Shi and Lindsey with their certificates of appreciation.  We appreciate all that you do.  are invaluable assets to Carteret County.  recognition as Employee of the Month.  me in congratulating them on their well-deserved recognition.    172  VI. Public Comment machines in Carteret  Mr. Brian Nicklow, 1502 Salter Path Rd, Indian Beach, stated his distrust for the  based County  use of voting costly and budget year  on vulnerabilities. He also stated the machines are  the software provider has a lack of transparency. He 2017. He concluded by stating human trafficking is a serious should educate themselves on that issue. VII. Public Hearing for the Proposed Rezoning of a 2.11-acre Parcel Located at 121 Eagle Road Newport, from R-15M (Single-Family Residential District) to B-1CZ (General Business  DS200 quoted  model costs from problem, and the Board and citizens  Conditional Zoning District)  Board of Commissionere Date: Eugone Foxworth Summary: ont behairo ofh R-15M hls Aurora Family Cariito Ruirian District roquesting to s bys dwelings tothen North and 10B-1CZ has also agreed tot the of maintaining the sectione of Eagle Road thath is ad as public rightofway: sot passinb both direotions grading at when tis under such ast conditions eoccept date, the nost bje fivet tot ears. 2nos requost is rezoning recuestr fors a2. Disteict OB-1 1Cz (General oftho item as tor Cz a2.11-acres Pian  Regular  (Single-Family! tor Residentiat 2.11acres Distrion parcell IOE B-10z located at 121 Eagle Business Road Newport, NC: (PINA: 633801486989000) from R-1 15M  District). us and  11acres parcel located at 121 Eaglo Road Nowport. NC:  Zoning Districty. Currently. the property 28570 (PINA:  tot this: 2.11-acre and  R-203 includes sito-s and specisic conditions andR-1 that zoning thes East, and R-1 zoningt dwelling tot the West. East, av tuated the Limited during ransition CAMAL Land UseF Plons any obstructions Areasa that prevente within the the flow of trafe  to the West. The keeping itups to m surrounding voted 60t0  agread tobyt the propertye These conditions include limiting thes site tot the  with motion(s)  Land Plan. Transition 25 classification ares areas  objections. tocaled at AEI s Eagle meeting on 13. tne  Conditionalz Zoning District). Staff Is Newport. to answer any 28570 questions 0336014609860001 from  the  at Dletrict). Road Newport, NC: 28570 (PINE: 633601486986000): from R-15M  priginating and Contact: Manager Eugane'  County Altorney  PLANNING ANJD DEVELCMENT  Offic  MEMOANDUM County Manager: & Planning Diroctor  DATE: June 17. 2024 TO: cc: Tommy Burns, County Managor RE: FROM: Eugoner Foxworth, to Ea2 Bryan: (Gonorall  County Board of Commissioner Zoning District. on evport bohairs his 857 other 70 PI "#: Aurora Carrillo Ruiz  66986000) a: from 2.11 acre R-15M (Single-Famy locatod at Residential 121 Eeglo Road Nowport, NO 28570 PIN:  District) to B-10z (Generai Business  zone to the that have boen standards  acres to the North and to by the property of Fagle Road that is filling potholos clearing any weather  Condition Zoning District). .86000) FSVTER R-15M SAEN Residontiall District) located tas 21  South, tly; the propans: singte- i vacant. family The dweting subject owner. This conditional conditionsl soning roguest include Includes limiting the Itoimpeciic to the  bordered and by: single-f family  Epy: EX: a vacant  subject property is bordered by R-20 zoning North and South. B-1 and R-15M zoning the East, and R-15M  Landscaping Business  Ti this  the parcet and has keeping mgre  to to NCDOT ndition star oF: main taining. These the ding that provent normal nlow necopss of traffio  Eagle Road: s 5 pubic at pontasway that: all 2 can in both directiona.    173  The subject property is situated within the Limited Transition CAMAI Land Use Plan development classification. during Areas the included next five 25s surrounding property owners have been notified. To date, staff has received 8 objections and 2 no objections. Atil its meeling onN May 13, 2024 the Planning Commission: voted 6-0t to unanimously NC 28570 recommend 633601466986000), approving the rezoning request for a: 2.11-acre parcel located at 121 Eagle Road Business Newport, Conditional (PIN#: District).  within thel Limited Transition classification: are areas that will experience increasing tot ten years. This requesti is consistent with the CAMA Land Use Plan. from R-15M (Single-Family Residential District) to B-1CZ (General Staff is happy to answer any questions that you may have.  Zoning  REZONING APPLICATION  Aurora Carrillo Ruiz  Applicant: Bryan Rios Carrillo Adcress: 3273 Highway 24. Newport NC Telephone: 252-342-1041 bryanioscrioalandscape.com E-mais:.  Owner (I not 3273 Appllcant):, Highway 24, Newport NC 28570  Address:, Telephone:, E-mail:. Signature:, Date: 04/11/2024  Auran Cacciloric  121 Eagle Rd, Newport, NC 28570  Property address/ location:, PIN: 033601466988000 Please explain why the rezoning that you are requesting is warranted: Parcel is currently vacant and approximately: business 2.11 and Acres. would like to move his business to this location. Owner has al piyaas. Uses we would like permitted are "landscaping business" This property is located within the Limited Transition CAMA Land Use Classification: ten years. areas that will experience increasing development: during the next five to There is currently B1 Zoning to the east with a commercial business located on lot (Southeast Industrial Services, LLC) which is also directly adjacent to a Industrial and Wholesale lot. Property owner will be responsible for maintining the section of Eagle Road that is adjacent Eagle to Road this as 2.11 a acre parcel and keeping it up to DOT standards. These standards maintaining include: Eagle maintaining Road so that it is passable public right of way so that 2 cars can pass in both directions. under all normal condtions except extreme weather, and adding new gravel and flow traffic. such as filling in potholes and clearing any obstructions that prevent the normal of  B1-CZ  Current Zoning:. R15M  Proposed. Zoning:  which includes the  grading when necessary. Date: Fak 62623 222-5825  FOFSEARNGaN Appiication  Amt. Carterat 545 NOT  Received by:.  Degasimentis xeworth, of  and Devetopment oficer 705 Cedar  orrice: Bridgess 22 swes suss  Eha-mois  VEYANG    174  Aurora Carrillo Ruiz Rezoning Request R-15M toB-1CZ 121 Eagle Road Newport, NC28570 PIN: 633601466986000  Aerial Map  Subject Property  PLANNING ANJD DEVELOPMENT  irecto  cy 32  MAPAME ENDMENT Parceics): bohalfs of' his  a arrito llo Ruiz IN#: Fgle 633601 Aurora arrillo al the REASONABL ENESS.  NO: 28670 8898808 Zoning District). o that Use number:  BEQUES TAIFMENT the  -acre (Single- parmy 000030 is consistont wir  map mendment made Plannins ollowing statements: GESPAMEMPATEN APPPOVEL proposed Hs not countod conaitne. : aivision, contiouous. so  fa to B-3 * pireceiy and ea the street the fact chat the igbway ls relatively e Is enemabte low Impact. pecRse they are redoing the road, and e's maintaining the roads andis  The thes goels. objootives, Commission and polole find es and of the  Ais Motion to Secondod by:  in the Mike Laws  intorest  Followed by a unanimous vote (6-0) of  from the Commitos  LAMMNG AND DEVBLOPMENT  ih ge parily the A  the  to y:  chy. NO    175  PLANNINO AND DEVELOPMENT  Bugase' Burwns Bo Chapter. om 8o6  of ouring. the North, PUBLICI Garotin, NOTICE SE Statures. in Sarteret  (30, BoBoMR 3820 Bridgos Gounty. ::  Rostdential 1 at  le Ros oz ad E (General Business o Eugene Fowotr ing Oirector  Condition: P the City. Sarten NO 2a567 Planning  ing ics  from R-1 fsR n F is avallabi ublic Suite inspactionl B.  CTY  STAL NC  Mr. Gene Foxworth stated this parcel is familiar to the Board. The property is currently vacant. It is bordered by single family to the north and south, businesses and single family dwellings to the and a vacant parcel to the west. Itis is bordered by R-20 to the north and south, B-1 and R- east, 15 to the east, and R-15M to the west. This is a conditional zoning request. The last time it appeared before you I don't believe it was conditional. The only use that they have asked for under the conditional zoning request is for a landscaping business. Int the permit application they listed several conditions. One was maintaining Eagle Road sO that it is passable under all normal conditions except extreme weather, adding new gravel and grading when necessary. Twenty-five surrounding At it's May 13th meeting, the Planning Commission voted 6-0 to unanimously Commissioner Quinn asked if this property access is just via Eagle Road or does it have access via Hibbs Road as well. Mr. Foxworth responded the only access is Eagle Road. Commissioner Quinn asked if the owners of this property are going to maintain the entirety of Eagle Road. Mr. Vice-Chairman Mansfield said these people own the parcel behind this, sO we are just talking about maintaining the 121' of the parcel they are asking for the rezoning on. Mr. Foxworth stated Vice-Chairman Mansfield said last time we had some issues with the condition of the property,  property owners have been notified. Staff have received eight objections and two no  objections.  recommend approval of the rezoning.  Foxworth said no sir, just to their property line.  that was correct. that's been cleaned-up was correct.  based upon  a conversation  and I had. Mr. Foxworth confirmed that  you  Commissioner Chadwick asked who maintains Eagle Road now. Mr. Foxworth said it is a private Commissioner Shinn stated he wasn'tf fully on board with denying the rezoning request last time it before the board. We have done numerous rezonings on Hibbs Road in the 24 corridor  road, sO the citizens of Eagle Road are responsible.  came    176  since I have been on the board, sO I don't think that property is conducive to a residential think the best use for it would be a conditional business and the biggest concern at our lot. last I meeting was the maintaining of the entrance off of Hibbs Road onto Eagle condition that they are responsible for, I have no issue with granting the rezoning. Road, Ithink it is is the the Commissioner Cavanaugh asked who actually owns Eagle Road. Vice-Chairman Mansfield Vice-Chairman Mansfield made a motion to open public hearing. Seconded by Chairman Mr. Bryan Carrillo, the applicant, stated his parents own the property and he and his father are partners in the business that want to use that property. In the last three owned this property I have not noticed any improvements nor any maintenance years Commissioner Shinn is correct about the use of that land. We can't do anything of with Eagle it because Road. we have a soil report that does not support a septic tank. We have cleared the Commissioner Cavanaugh stated the last time this came before the board there was rubble. Mr. Carrillo said yes, we were using it to get some concrete and debris out a pile of Commissioner Shinn stated there were some concerns from the residents about going to be any kind of wood chipping, stump grinding, etc. Mr. Carrillo responded noise, no. there The property is just going to be for our equipment to be stored there. We will load in the be gone most of the day, and come back ini the evenings and put our stuff up We wont morning, Commissioner Cavanaugh asked if there will be storage area there for plants that in your work. Mr. Carrillo said every now and then we have some plants left over from you are using we keep until used for the next job, but as far as a nursery goes or having wholesale jobs that Commissioner Chadwick asked about the buffer requirements. Mr. Carrillo said he understood Charles Tolson, 106 Kelly Lane. Began by pointing out his property in relation to the property on the projected map. This rezoning request was denied last contention was that this is a predominately residential area. This area is still year and the main Kelly Lane has eight homes, Hibbs Acres on the north side has many homes, mostly and residential. has maybe fifty homes. My back yard will go right up to this commercial four homes along Kelly Lane that will go right up to that commercial operation. operation. we to hear everything there. The homes on Eagle Road are also close to the proposed So, are going Again, this is a highly residential area. It has been that way. A landscaping business will operation. close to our homes. Commercial operations will bring more daily noise. homeowners have objected to this rezoning to keep it a quiet peaceful neighborhood. Eight bordering The permitted use applied for by the applicant has changed to landscaping business. That kind of wide open and vague. It can be anything up to backhoes and dump trucks. They seems could  and if that  right thing to do.  Mr. Foxworth stated they have not looked at the deeds specifically.  and  Farrington. The vote was unanimous.  that we parcel. It is just  have  bare.  but we have cleared that out.  of a few jobs is really  be there too much.  away.  we don't plan on that.  plants, no sir  the requirements and would plant the necessary vegetation.  subject Eagle There Road are be too  literally bring anything in there and do what they want.    177  Mr. Tolson continued by asking if any of the county commissioners attended the planning commission meeting because he obtained unofficial notes of the May 13th planning board meeting where bordering homeowner objections did not get much attention. The required buffer Commissioner Wheatly asked Mr. Tolson if there were any other commercial businesses on either side of you. Mr. Tolson said there is the VFW and one more business. Commissioner Wheatly asked how far are they from your house. Mr. Tolson said he did not know the exact Commissioner Wheatly asked the applicant if the property was zoned residential when he bought it. Mr. Carrillo responded yes sir, but the property will not support septic. Commissioner Wheatly asked Mr. Tolson if he has any recommendations what Mr. Carrillo can do with his property other Mr. Tolson continued by stating this is too big and too close to homes on half acre lots. Itisatwo acre monster. Whatever they do, we have no guarantee. That is the risk. III ask the commissioners to vote as ift this is your own house and your own backyard. Honor the objections oft the bordering homeowners. The reasons you voted against it last year have not changed. Commissioner Chadwick asked about the drainage ditch that borders Mr. Tolson's property is that included in the 25' buffer. Mr. Foxworth said the buffer would be between the landscaping Ms. Lewis, 102 Kelly Lane, stated the commercial property across the street already brings constant noise at our house sO we don't want another business right behind our house. We are Gail Cope, 103 Kelly Lane, l'agree with everything they have said. We just want a peaceful and quiet neighborhood with what we have got already. I've got the VFW behind me. lam concerned about the value of our property if we have another business come in. We are going to be Mr. Bryan Carrillo spoke again stating he can sympathize with the neighbors but there is really no Commissioner Chadwick asked Mr. Carrillo if he would be open to a larger buffer to try to address some of the concerns about the noise. Mr. Carrillo responded that is not something he was prepared to speak on, lwould need to discuss it with my father. lwould really rather not have a larger buffer because it is already a big buffer and we had trouble trying to fit our building where Attorney Sharon Griffin stated that if this is a conditional use zoning we can't change the conditions and vote on it right now. It would have to have written approval of the deed owners before it comes to the commissioners. So, if the option is to change the condition then this is Mr. Carrillo said if it comes down to that does that mean we would have to wait the six months again to reapply. Ms. Griffin said no, but you can't do a conditional use unless the owners  isr not going to block out the noise that could come from over there.  distance.  than pay taxes onit. Mr. Tolson said, III buy it.  business and the drainage ditch.  surrounded.  surrounded on three sides.  place else they can go. This property is outside of town limits.  we wanted it.  going to need to bei tabled and voted on at at future meeting.  actually agree in writing.    178  Robert Holt, 107 Kelly Lane, my concerns are the tax structure. Does this change our tax structure. Does this increase our insurance. Chairman Farrington responded that he can't Vice-Chairman Mansfield made a motion to go out of public hearing. Seconded by Commissioner Commissioner Shinn asked Mr. Foxworth on a typical commercial property you can basically build lot line to lot line correct. Mr. Foxworth stated it depended on the commercial district. Commissioner Shinn stated he understands the concerns of the surrounding residents, but Is still feel like that particular piece of property is more valuable with a business Classification. I think that is a responsible layout that he presented especially with the boundaries that have been Vice-Chairman Mansfield asked did the planning board recommend approval of this last time as  answer those questions.  Wheatly. The vote was unanimous. Setbacks are generally smaller.  proposed. lam still for the rezoning and will make that my motion.  well. Mr. Foxworth relied yes.  Commissioner Wheatly stated he would second Commissioner Shinn's motion.  Chairman Farrington said we have a first and a second but asked Commissioner Shinn to restate Commissioner Shinn stated his motion is to approve the request to rezone this property per the Chairman Farrington called for a vote. The vote was 5-2 approval. Commissioners Farrington, Mansfield, Cavanaugh, Shinn, and Wheatly voted to approve. Commissioner Chadwick and Vice-Chairman Mansfield made a motion to state a statement of plan consistency that the Commissioners find and determine that case number 2024-000030 is consistent with the goals, objectives, and policies of the CAMA Land Use Plan because along Hibbs Road this corridor, there have been other consistent business done in the past but also within the last several years. This is reasonable and in the public interest because this property would not have much tax value ifs something was not done with it due to the fact that it does not perk. Commissioner Wheatly seconded. The vote was unanimous with Commissioners Quinn and Chadwick not casting a vote.  his motion.  sketch that has been provided, the conditions that are applied.  Commissioner Quinn opposed.  VIII. Public Hearing on the Proposed Sections 1102 and 2003 Sesisr AT po oren To  Text Amendments to the Carteret County Zoning Ordinance  LANMINS 7I  38858  EMORANDUM  2024 Burne. ing 402 of the  102 and a 2003 pireos e : -  s aneir 59. e osisn. to the Zonino  County Zoning : BanRas : of o foct by 20 ty o sammss py to  se  2003 te that you  -an any    179  County Zoning Ordinance Proposed. Amondment: (May 13, 2024)  ByDeleting:. 1102. Dennitions Darking space A parking standard parking o square ots feet. This to does aocommodate not ns of 7.51 wridth and A387in in compact ByAdaing:. 1102. Dotinitions Parking spece., A parking pace must! BdaC This areas there are feet in width and 161 feet in ns 1o1 PBri compaot  is defined as an off-street of 30 feet! dimensionses and ESEERE used more than vohictean length. e is defined as offstreet feet width space and ns a smaller t  available. feet in for the total of motor minimu. vehicles. areas a length Petine to space or; spaces. vyhere of shall the be for use only spaces, Pp oiomas E  for length the total of inimum vehicles. areas a for ccess to the space or spaces PD provided. ehall be designated for use mg 10 vehicios, up provided, 25 percent shatl of be the designated may for lot with two- way (2 lanes) traffic shall feet.  16 feet in  modate include: mo PAREaGowaYE vehicles. up to percent of the spaces may have  2003. Pss space: A parking and travel space is: wideh: as defined. en street feet exclusively: width and available feet for. In the tength parking with of a minimum vehicles. of aoa  standarg parking spas This area st have does minimum dimensions passag goways of and drivewaye square feotr needodre there lots designed accomme minimum dimenstons of7. 5 foet width and 16 feet in length. The: only by COBBSI The: minimr width of a travel aisle widu inas minimum width ofat traffic aisle for ByAdding 2003. Pesse; A parki ing: space have only by compact width ofal aislet for ost: Texte to be Text: Textto be  to for the parking of  ors spaces; be 241 The vehicles.  spaces, Wp  (1 lane) parking chatt Pating! be <1 parking shall PBTR be  ppRce and eravel width defined. an: off- stroet pace  dimenstons 9 feet in width: and 20 in lenoth a minimum of 180 ia  foet needed. parking spa areas does not include to any ommodate and drivews 35 vehic cles, up 25 to. percent of or spaces may have dimenstons. ere there. of7- are 5 lots destgned in wicth and 16 feet in length. more The: smatler spaces. WPp provided. shali Bd designated for  width of a travel aisle width in a  lot with two-way C2 lanes) traffio shall be 24 feet. The  samE5 <T may amend. Bo i  COUNTY 2D OF COMMISSIONE e Beramsis sa. assg me CP Zonir no Srdinal pwal Zoning General be :t e that 003 3  County motion or by Dopartment "Grant of Bome of bnns Smy County of  tosct  this the 171h day of,  Clor  Mr. Gene Foxworth stated the State said our parking spaces could be a maximum of 9' wide. Commissioner Chadwick made a motion to go into public hearing. Seconded by Commissioner Commissioner Chadwick made a motion to close public hearing. Seconded by Commissioner  Currently our ordinance states 10' wide. That's the change. Wheatly. There was no vote. There were no comments.  Cavanaugh. The vote was unanimous. Commissioner Cavanaugh that was correct. Vice-Chairman of the Carteret County Zoning unanimous. Vice-Chairman unanimous.  clarified that this  to new construction. Mr. Foxworth stated the resolution to amend sections 1102 and 2003  only pertains approve  Mansfield made a motion to  Ordinance. Seconded Commissioner Cavanaugh. The vote was  by  Mansfield  motion to made a this  the statement of  consistency due to the fact  approve  plan  Seconded by Commissioner Chadwick. The vote was  that the State has proposed change.    180  IX. Review/Approval of the 2024-25 County Government  Budget  Chairman Farrington stated he wanted to thank our staff for putting together this budget proposal. I Vice-Chairman Mansfield made a motion to approve the Manager's proposed budget with the exception of the recommended $900K in operating for the public schools. lwould like to increase that amount to $1.5M and go with the recommended capital amount. Also increase the amount for the Commissioner Wheatly asked how much the school system requested compared to the proposed amount in Vice-Chairman Mansfield's motion. Chairman Farrington responded the school system Commissioner Wheatly asked in that $3.4M what would we be cutting out? Mr. Burns replied that we just give them an operating number and they decide how they spend their funds. We don't dictate Richie Paylor, Superintendent of Carteret County Public Schools, responded that we need $2.9M to Commissioner Wheatly said when we handled the Sheriff situation we gave them several raises and did several other things and we invested close to $5M on property and the perception of a lot of people and myself is that we are putting the inmates and the Sheriff's Office in front of the school and children. Ihave a problem with that. Idon't think that is the way things should be done. Ithink that our children and our schools should come first. thought about this al lot, and one oft the could actually meet and help the school system operate fully is to go to our fund balance ways and take that money from our fund balance and give it toi the schools. With reevaluation coming up, there is going to be an increase in revenue that comes in and we can refund that money back to the fund Commissioner Cavanaugh asked are we actually cutting them or reducing the increased amount Commissioner Wheatly said you can call it whatever you want. Icall it cutting and reducing. Ithink the Superintendent and the Accountant were very clear and open and fair on their request. They did avery good job of presenting their budget request. Ihave looked through it. Idon't see any waste. What they have asked fori is important and necessary. We need to put our kids first. Vice-Chairman Mansfield stated we rank in the top ten percent in the state based upon the percentage of money we give to education. So, Ithink we already put our children first. Ithink if you compare the school's budget to the Sheriff's budget there is not even any comparison to which one we put first. We average giving over $1M more a year tot the schools over the last ten years. It's whether you want to raise taxes or not. Ifthat is what you are proposing than we can talk about that. The reval is not going to do anything. Ift the values go up the rate is suppose to go down revenue Chairman Farrington said we have raised the school budget over the last eleven years and we have made increases for the teacher's supplements. Itj just comes down to we have got to tighten up. We can't bank everything oni the reval. That is a discussion for next year when we actually know we have  want to ask the Commissioners if they have any comments or suggestions.  Humane Society for their general operating by $25K.  requested $3.4M in operating and the motion was for $1.5M.  how they spend those funds.  stay flat funded and then we requested an additional $997K for new items.  we  balance. wanted.  they  neutral. If you don't go revenue neutral, you raise taxes. That's an equation.  the money in the bank.    181  Vice-Chairman Mansfield asked Ms. Dee Meshaw how much fund balance we are appropriating this budget year. Ms. Meshaw responded $5.5M. Vice-Chairman Mansfield stated we are already appropriating $5.5M of fund balance to balance our budget. Ms. Meshaw said yes sir. Vice- Chairman Mansfield ask if the $5.5M includes the $1.5M proposed for the school. Ms. Meshaw said it Commissioner Wheatly said there is not one item in the school budget that has not doubled in price. You can't operate with the same amount of money that you did two years ago. You have got to change with the times. It is obvious when you go toi the grocery store. It is obvious when you go to the gas pump. Ithink we should do what the Superintendent has asked us to do. Chairman Farrington repeated Vice-Chairman's motion of $1.5M in additional operating funds to the school system and $25K in additional funding fort the Humane Society to operate the animal shelter. Mr. Burns clarified that the school systems operating budget would now total $28.53M plus $600k for charter schools. Seconded by Commissioner Shinn. The vote was 6-1 with Commissioner Wheatly Mr. Burns asked for a motion to adopt the county budget ordinance with those recommended Commissioner Quinn made a motion to approve the county budget ordinance as amended. The Carteret County Budget Ordinance is posted on the Carteret County Government Website:  only includes the original $900K.  voting against. changes.  Seconded by Commissioner Shinn. The vote was unanimous. ESASNNsadadeafataaN  X. Manager's Report  Mr. Tommy Burns stated he attended the county advocacy day in Raleigh and education funding was a big topic of discussion. Many counties had the same challenges that we do for funding education. Itold my counterparts that Carteret County has always had a commitment to education. Ify youl look at the last ten years of budgets, we have increased the operating budgets and teacher supplements. Iwanted to mention that we will be thinking about the family of Leroy Golden. Leroy passed away. He has kept many of us high and tight through the years at the barbershop. Commissioner Chadwick stated before we get to appointments, would like to make a motion that we bring Ms. Sharon Griffin on as the full time county attorney. Seconded by Commissioner  Cavanaugh. The vote was unanimous. XI. Appointments  Carteret County Aging Planning Board Carteret County Harbor Authority Juvenile Crime Prevention Council Jury Commission    182  ER9amer  or  Commissioner Cavanaugh nominated Don Helsabeck for reappointment to the  Board for a 3-year appointment. Approved. Authority for a 2-year term. Approved.  Aging Planning  Commissioner Chadwick nominated Thomas C. McArthur, Jr. for reappointment to the Harbor Commissioner Cavanaugh nominated John Carswell and Krysten Patton to reappointments Commissioner Wheatly nominated Michael Nelson to appointment to the Jury Commission for az 2-  Juvenile Crime Prevention Council for 2-year terms. Approved.  to the  year appointment. Approved.  XI.A Discussion on Boards and Commissions  This is an amendment to the agenda for discussion on appointed boards. Ms. Griffin said there are numerous boards that the Commissioners are charged with appointments to. Many of those boards are created by the Board of Commissioners. making Chairman Farrington wanted me to share with all of you that it is the authority and obligation of the Board Commissioners that you can appoint and resend appointments ifi in the best interest of Carteret County and all of it's citizens are being protected. your created by the Board of Commissioners to allow County Government to run more So, effectively boards and are efficiently, and if at any time you feel that is not the case, then you can make some legal exceptions. If boards are created by statute then you can't make changes. those there are only a few boards like that. Iwould also say if somebody is appointed to a changes, term it is and best to explain why you would want to change that appointment sO that you give them that notice Vice-Chairman Mansfield said we have had some issues ini the past. A few some talk about removing some members of the Airport Authority, and at that years time ago about there five was members resigned. Then during that process someone was disgruntled and called the Auditor's Office and filed some type of complaint. So, we had to do an audit that cost the State NC taxpayer almost $125K and I don't know what it cost the county but it had four of our highest employees fori two days doing stuff. Ms. Griffin stated we did ask the State Auditor's Office about paid the complaint and we were told that was not public record. At the end of the audit there were no Vice-Chairman Mansfield said the other board that has been a point of contention over the several months is the ABC Board. Prior to myself going on there, they went under contract last to a piece of property and before IC could ask questions and see about potentially backing out, they buy closed  judgement as a board of  these that There are of why you  are making that change.  board  findings.    183  the on property. But, my  question to the Commissioners was there a consensus to buy the property.  one block over from Enterprise Car Rental.  Did the Commissioners want to buy this property  Commissioner Wheatly said there was a vote taken on the board and it was a majority vote. Commissioner Shinn said there was a vote taken for the Chairman to negotiate with the current Commissioner Wheatly said that is exactly right and we did negotiate the price and we bought the property at $100K under the tax value. Ithought it was a good buy. One of the complaints that came from you (Commissioner Shinn) is that it was too close to Newport. Iti is five miles from Newport and it is located near the busiest retail outlet center in Carteret County. Commissioner Shinn said that was one of the complaints. One of my issues was the proximity to a store where the board is spending nearly $1M1 to renovate. The biggest concern was the access to that lot on a major highway with no stoplight nor turning lane to access if from either direction. Vice-Chairman Mansfield said my question is not what that board did. Commissioners were you in favor of relocating to that property. Commissioner Quinn responded no. Commissioner Chadwick also responded no. Chairman Farrington said no. Commissioner Shinn said no. Commissioner Cavanaugh stated he did not recall the discussion. Vice-Chairman Mansfield said that his is point. Other than Commissioner Wheatly we did not support relocating the Morehead store to that property. The due diligence was not done well. That piece of property is not in the Morehead City city limits and that cuts out Morehead City from getting any distribution from the ABC. My other big thing is are leasing al building where the lease is $51 to $6K a month but if you take that lot and build a are going to spending $3M to do that, and it could cost $20K a month in payments.  owners to purchase the property.  Highway 70 is the busiest road in the county.  you building, you Commissioner Wheatly Vice-Chairman Mansfield  said that property just said whole about my point talking  sold, and it sold for $60K more than we paid for it.  about these boards is that boards have  tor make these decisions and I don't think the Commissioners are on board with the decisions being Chairman Farrington stated we appreciate the people we appoint to our boards. All boards that their time. Even a board who has a unanimous group can go in the wrong direction. I'm going to the Hospital Board. Itruns directly from the appointments this Commission makes. We are and we these folks on these boards. This week we had some calls to some of put realize that there are a lot of things that are happening at the hospital  made. That property is under contract but it has not sold yet.  fine  for citizens. Even the best boards we have, we have gridlock.  serve Carteret County do things  someone who donates  Some oft these boards, they need to be aligned. It's a hard thing to say to  bring up elected officials the Commissioners and we  that board the  direction. Ithink it is up wellness the of  right now and we. just want to make sure that we guide  in right  to us to do that. That is a discussion that we need to have tonight. The health and people of this county is in our mission statement. That hospital is what makes this county work and ithas done amazing things. We need to talk out some of the issues we have heard this week. Commissioner Cavanaugh stated Ia am on the hospital board and nobody called me about any complaints. Soldon't know who would be calling other Commissioners voicing their concerns. I missed a special called meeting of the hospital board last week because Ic did not have a caregiver for my wife at the time, apparently it was a pretty fiery meeting for people to call Commissioners  about changing board members.    184  Commissioner Wheatly said there are two board members in the audience tonight, Mr. Mr. Bailey. I'm sure they are here for this discussion. Ihave not received any complaints Taylor of anything. Ihave heard that they are having some problems with nurses because most of our nurses are going to become travel nurses because of pay. That has become a big problem. lunderstand the OBGYN are demanding a lot more money, almost $1M more. Iti is a money understand all of the problems revolve around the revenue coming into the hospital. thing. was in trouble about eight years ago and due to some changes that were made by the Our board hospital members, it became very solvent. Now it has started to decline in profitability. don't should be able to go and take a few phone calls from somebody and get al little here and al little piece information there and make a decision on throwing someone piece off of a board. That does not make sense. No business operates like that. Idon't think we should either. Vice-Chairman Mansfield said it is funny how when it's the school board you want to balance down but when it's the hospital board it's not ok. Then you make the statement spend that the the hospital wasn't in good financial condition but it was because I was on the board and it was almost a million dollars a month, and it has over $200M in fund balance right now. Idon't think making those Commissioner Wheatly said the hospital is still solvent and still making a profit but their Commissioner Shinn said talking about profitability. Where do your profits go if all your staff walks out. Ifyou don't have any doctors. If your OBGYN leave, if your Cardiologist leave, some pretty significant additions and upgrades tot that facility but it is going to be alli for they not doing no one in there to staff it. That is a concern to me. Agood portion of your staff is threatening if there a is Commissioner Cavanaugh said you can'thave the staff running the hospital or dictating the terms Commissioner Wheatly said you can't let your staff blackmail you into increases. You can't Commissioner Cavanaugh said the declining margins have been since 2022. come out from underneath COVID. Now we are going right into this high inflationary They trying can't spent your way out of a problem. We have a lot of money in the bank but at a hospital period. But can you Vice-Chairman Mansfield asked Commissioner Cavanaugh if the hospital board is ai fractured board. Commissioner Chadwick stated he received a couple of calls from board members and Italked the CEO myself to get a handle on what is going on without embarrassing anyone or divulging to hospital business. There are a lot of people not on the same page at that hospital. Commissioner Quinn stated he feels there is ample opportunity for the hospital to it's services to the western part of the county and be able to make a tremendous amount expand of of All you have to do is go tot the medical office is Pollicksville to see how busy they are. A lot of money. our county citizens drive that far to Jones county in order to receive medical care there. There desire to have at forward thinking board in order to take into account expansion to the western is a  and  From whatl ofi think information you  fund  statements are accurate. has decreased.  profit margin  are  mutiny and you are not negotiating with them. how the hospital is going to be run. like that. If you do, there is no end to it.  of operate to you Idon't  are  go through that money real fast.  Commissioner Cavanaugh responded no, I think the board works together in  remember any heated discussions or arguments.  harmony.  any some  the county to serve our citizens.  part of    185  Mr. Taylor, Chairman of the Hospital Board of Trustees, stated from the audience that the statement Commissioner Quinn made was looked into over the last 5-6 years, you really have tol know a lot more of what you are talking about because the hospital would actually lose a lot of money. Commissioner Quinn said there are other hospital board members that would disagree with that statement. Mr. Taylor said we had a firm out of Raleigh investigate that for us. Vice-Chairman Mansfield asked how profits are distributed by the hospital. Mr. Taylor responded the American Hospital Association recommends a certain reserve. The rest is paid out to salaries and operating expenses. We went from a profit of $1M a month down to $200K starting with COVID. There has been no money wasted over there. Most oft the people on that hospital board have tried Commissioner Cavanaugh stated Mr. Taylor is a good guardian of the money that the hospital has in the reserve fund. Ithink overall the board has done an excellent job. Financially I think things will get better once we get a different President and get the economy under control and get prices down. Inflation is eating up their income. The western clinic is going to happen. It may not happen on our clock, but it will happen as the board collectively determines it is time to do it. There is a lot that goes into building a clinic. Iti takes years. You don'tj just order al bunch of lumber and bricks. Mr. Jim Bailey stated he has been on the hospital board for a year now. lam Chairman of the Finance Committee. llook at those numbers very carefully. We have identified a trend where the expenses are going up and the income is not going up. Some ofi it has to do with the number of surgeons we have who produce a lot of income for the hospital. We have lost some of those people, and we are ini the process oft trying to recruit new doctors to come. That combined with the fact that Medicare/Medicald and 3rd party providers have changed their reimbursements. They tell us what they are going to pay. They even tell us for instance how long somebody can stay in the hospital for ap particular procedure. Ift the doctor does not agree we don't get paid fort the extra care. There is a lot of those pressures, and we cannot seem to identify a solution other than adding more Cardiologists, OBGYN, and Neurologists to produce income for the hospital. A lot of the hospital services are money losers but they are providing service to this community. We feel that very strongly as a board that the hospital is here to serve this community. Itis a very important part of what goes on int this county. You are never going to make any real money on OB; it just doesn't make money. But, it is very important that we have that service. We simply cannot cut out services that are important. Right now we are caught in a squeeze between the reimbursements we are getting and inflation. Inflation is a huge deal for us too. We look at each month and see what we can save money on. Idon't know of anyone on that board that has a personal agenda. Iwould be surprised to hear that. Ithink everyone on that board has this county's best interest at heart. We haven't served the community if we let the hospital get int trouble. linvite any of you to attend our meetings and look at our numbers. Iti is still 2 plus 2 makes 4 and you have got toi figure out how to Commissioner Shinn stated he agreed with a lot of what Mr. Bailey said. l'agree with a lot of what Mr. Taylor said. Butl Ir received al lot of the same phone calls that the other Commissioners have received and Ithink there is a difference of opinion on the direction and some of the activities taking place on the hospital board. One of our concerns is the doctors leaving and the negotiation tools that aren't being usedi for salary discussions for staff. There has got to be a happy medium in pay negotiations. Ifeel like that is not what is happening. The besti interest of that hospital is the best interest oft this Board. As it has been stated, it is our responsibility to appoint the candidates to all the boards. Idon't want to diminish our appreciation for these people. They are volunteering their time to serve. We have a responsibility to evaluate the actions and directions of these boards. We have to do what we feel like is int the best interest of Carteret Health Care, andlam going with the  to do what is best for that hospital and this county.  make money and preserve the hospital for the future.    186  information that Ihave received and that I determine is accurate. So, to that  due to  concerns  and in the best interest oft the whole county, because that is a county point facility, and our we are  responsible for it's operations, and as unpleasant as it may be la am going to make a motion Commissioner Shinn made a motion to remove Mr. Claud Wheatly, Julius Taylor, and Dr. Moore from the Carteret Health Care Hospital Board of Trustees. Commissioner Quinn seconded. Jeffery The vote was 5-21 to approve. Commissioner Wheatly and Commissioner Cavanaugh opposed.  remove ai few members of the hospital board.  to  XII. Commissioner Comments  Commissioner Shinn stated he would hold further comments. Commissioner Cavanaugh said he was too disgusted to make comments.  Vice-Chairman Mansfield wished everyone a happy and safe 4th of July. This is a tough job. Commissioner Quinn stated he would like to thank the staffi for all of the hard work putting the Carteret Community College pin, which I wear with pride every day, but today July. I am wearing my sense of sadness because our community college family lost a very dear member this wearing past it with weekend, Mr. Nate Branson. Ijust want to ask you to keep that fine young man, one of the most earnest people I have ever met, and his family in your thoughts and prayers. Commissioner Chadwick said yesterday was Father's Day, Ihope everyone had a Day. Mr. Leroy Golden passed away. He was a long time barber, andlc certainly want Happy with his family. Ididn't get all of what wanted tonight. wanted to give the schools a little prayers more to be money. It is about a 5% increase over last year. I'm hoping next year with the reval we will be able to do more, but we are already one of the top funding counties int the state. Certainly we want our children first, our schools first, really all of our county employees, and our serve on boards or just regular citizens. There were al lot of tough decisions tonight. county We what that best for the county as a whole. With that, Ihope everyone has a happy 4th of July. Stay safe. do Award. It is an honor to have great people working for us, and that name is Employee special to us. Month Commissioners you can sit here on your hands and do nothing or you can try very to make a difference. As Itisn not an easy job. Thank you to the staff fort the budget. It was a smooth process this recommend that all oft the Commissioners visit the Hospital Board and get involved. XIII. Closed Session Pursuant to General Statute 143-318.11 for the Permitted Purpose of Discussing (a) (1). Approval of the May 20, 2024 Closed Session Minutes, and (a)(3) Attorney-Client Privilege  together. lwould like to wish everyone a very happy and very safe 4th of.  lam  budget  Father's  citizens to put  is  Chairman Farrington congratulated the employees oft the Jaime Hicks Long  of the Ido year.  Vice-Chairman Mansfield made a motion to go into closed session. Seconded Commissioner Vice-Chairman Mansfield made a motion to go back into open session to adjourn. Seconded  Chadwick. The vote was unanimous.  by  Commissioner Shinn. The vote was unanimous.  by  XIV. Adjournment    187  Vice-Chairman Mansfield made a motion to adjourn. Seconded by Commissioner Shinn. The  vote was unanimous. The meeting adjourned at 8:40 PM.  Pu Blk Jimiy Farrington, Chairman  T Lori Turner, Clerk    188  R  A)