MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE HISTORIC: PRESERVATION COMMISSION SANFORD, NORTH CAROLINA  The Historic Preservation Commission met in regular session in the Buggy Conference Room,  115 Chatham Street, Sanford, NC, on Monday, April 22, 2024, at 6:001 PM.  ROLLCALL Members Present:  Jason Cline, Chair Charles Petty Jim Erb Delorian Wicker Aidan Harbison, Vice Chair Nate Dobbs Aaron Shephard  Members Absent:  Council Member Absent: Jean Dabbs  Staff Present: Attorney:  Liz Whitmore, Historic Preservation Planner II Angela Baker, Clerk to the Board  Kevin Hornik  APPROVALOEAGENDA  Having noted the presence of a quorum, Chair Cline called the meeting to order, and entertained a motion to approve the agenda. Board member Petty made the motion, seconded  by Board member Erb, the motion carried unanimously.  APPROVAL OF MINUTES  Chair Cline asked for al Motion to approve the March 25, 2024, minutes. Board member Petty  made a motion, seconded by Board member Erb, the motion carried unanimously. PUBLIC COMMENT None NEW BUSINESS  Chair Cline read the quasi-judicial reference statement. Chair Cline read the Conflicts of Interest statement.  Conflicts of Interest: None    Historic Preservation Minutes 4.22.24 2  Administer the Oath: Chair Cline called all participants speaking in favor of, or against the COA's, as well as staff, to come forward to be sworn in for testimony. Applicants Cleo Blue, A. COA 24-11 - Application from Blue Associates, LLC (Cleo Blue), owner of 150 N. Steele Street, who wishes to paint the front and partial side façade two shades of gray; the light gray will be the trim and the body will be dark gray. The rear façade will be  Jason Cline and Staff Liz Whitmore appeared and took the oath.  painted the dark gray.  Staff Presentation: Staff Whitmore stated that the Historic Preservation Commission received a Certificate of Appropriateness: COA-24-14 application from Blue Associate, LLC, owner 150 N. Steele Street, who wishes to paint the brick façade. It was advertised in accordance with the General Statutes and the site was posted on Wednesday, April 10, 2024.  The Staff Report was entered into the Record. Exhibit A, page 8 front façade of the proposed building.  Guidelines:  3. Rehabilitation of Existing Structures. The guidelines for rehabilitation of existing structures are oriented toward the design of the building alterations rather than the techniques of rehabilitation. The proper approach of rehabilitation is extremely important to maintaining the long-term integrity of older buildings. However, these guidelines emphasize how the appropriate exterior appearance of the rehabilitated structure should look rather than how to carry out proper rehabilitation. This orientation toward exterior appearance in the design guidelines reflects the emphasis of the Historic District Ordinance and the regulatory  authority it establishes for the Commission.   Masonry 1. Does not apply. 2. Does not apply.  3. Only originally painted masonry shall be repainted. Avoid the painting of previously Comment: 150 N. Steele Street is a non-contributing structure to the downtown district Exhibits A, B, and C, pages 8, 9, and 10. The applicant is proposing to paint the brick façade oft the building. The façade will be painted Rugged Stone (dark gray) and the trim will be painted Ganymede (light gray) Exhibit E, page 12. The building directly across the street is painted similar colors. Exhibit D, page 11.  unpaid masonry surfaces.  4. Does not apply.    Historic Preservation Minutes 4.22.24 3 Staff Comments and Analysis: applicable to this case. Board Ouestions  The commission may choose to agree or disagree with the staff's synopsis of the facts  Board member Cline asked when the building Exhibit D was painted.  Staff Whitmore said that it was a non-contributing building. It was approved with a COA to  paint the building. Applicant's7 Testimony:  Cleo Blue, 150 N. Steele Street, Sanford.  Mr. Blue stated that his building is a newer building and was built in 1965. Board member Petty asked the reason to paint the building.  Mr. Blue stated that he has never liked the brick and he likes the color of the building across  the street. Board Discussion:  Chair Cline stated that there is evidence that the building across the street that is also non- contributing has been painted with approval of a COA. He also stated that with the special characteristics of the downtown brick, other buildings on the block are painted; and it is not  the type of nice red brick that is mirrored in the historic district. Chair Cline asked when would the district be updated again.  Staff Whitmore said at least 20 years before it would be resurveyed and updated. Board member Erb stated that on the next survey the building could be deemed contributing. Attorney Hornik stated that the first contributing factor is that the building is 50 years old; and once the building is 50 years it has to meet with other qualifications to be a contributing building. He reminded the commission that guidelines are simply guidelines. The only rule legally to apply is to determine whether or not what is being proposed by the applicant is incongruous with the special character of the district. The guidelines are to help guide the Board member Erb asked about how many painted buildings are on that street where this Staff Whitmore stated that there are quite a few properties on the street that are painted. Board member Wicker stated that it isai non-contributing building, there is other painted brick on the street, and that it is not the brick that considered the contributing brick in the district.  discussion.  building is located.    Historic Preservation Minutes 4.22.24 4  Attorney Hornik that since there is a quorum of four members, there has to be a majority Board member Petty stated that considering the fact that the brick on the building is not as of the other brick in downtown; it is a non-contributing building; and other buildings being  unanimous vote.  painted on the block, he is in agreement.  Motions:  Board member Petty made a motion that the Historic Preservation Commission find as fact that the proposed project COA-24-14, 1501 N. Steele Street, who wishes to paint the unpainted brick of the non-contributing building; the brick façade will be painted a dark gray and the inset will be painted a light gray, is not incongruous with the character of the district, for the reasons that there are buildings within the block that are painted brick and it is a non- contributing building are for the following reasons generally in harmony with the criteria in the design guidelines and the special character of the neighboring properties and the historic district as a whole. Seconded by Board member Wicker. The motion carried.  Final Motion:  Board member Petty made a motion based on the preceding findings of fact, moved that the Historic Preservation Commission grant a Certificate of Appropriateness: to owner Blue Associates, LLC (Cleo Blue) and approve the proposal shown in COA-24-14, 150 N. Steele A motion was made by Board member Petty, seconded by Board member Erb, to table Item B,COA-15-24 due to no quorum, until the May 28, 2024, meeting. The motion carried.  Street. Motion seconded by Board member Wicker. The motion carried.  Old Business  COA's. - Staff Whitmore will send out by email.  ADJOURNMENT  With no further business to come before the Board, the meeting was adjourned on motion of Board member Petty, seconded by Board member Erb, and unanimously carried. The  meeting was adjourned at 7:00 pm.  Adopted this a8Hh day of may  2024.  BY: 222 Chair/ Vice- Chair  ATTEST:  Cmaalnl Php AngelaM. Baker, Clerk