Planning Commission Minutes - July 5, 2023  PRESENT: Chairwoman Nancy Moore and Member(s): Diane Bernardo, David Volpe, and  Ed Andrulonis Member. Joe Becker  ABSENT: STAFF:  Code Ehforcement/Zonings Officer, Zac Lawhead; Interim Manager/City Engineer/Public Works Director, Chris Nasuti; City Solicitor, Toni Cherry; and  City Secretary, Bobbie Shaffer  The meeting was called to order at 4:15 p.m. by Planning Commission Chairwoman, Nancy  Moore.  Approval of Minutes - June7,2023  The motion was made by Andrulonis and seconded by' Volpe that the Planning Commission  approve the minutes of June 7, 2023, as presented. ABSTAIN: Member Bernardo (Due to Absence)  VOTE AYES: NAYS:  Commission Members: Volpe, Andrulonis, and Chairwoman Moore  None  MOTION PASSED: 3-0 Visitors Comments: None Old Business: None New Business:  Paul Cavalier - 908 W. Weber - Modification of front yardsetback  Code Enforcement/Zonings Officer Lawhead stated that Mr. Cavalier was requesting the modification to enlarge the front porch; currently the porchi is 4'x4. In order to enlarge the porch they would need to infringe upon the setback by 8. So, the setback would be 52' fromi the road instead of the 60' requirement. However, it was observed that there are two other houses on the street and this house sits further back than any of the other! houses. Chairwoman Moore felt that it would be an improvement to the property as the steps are very: steep and you would have toi infringe on the setback if your needed toi install a ramp. She noticed that there was one other ramp in the neighborhood that comes out to the Solicitor Cherry clarified with Lawhead that the other houses are closer to the road.  sidewalk.  Lawhead confirmed.  Member Andrulonis asked Nasuti and Lawhead if there were: any concerns. Lawhead said none, he feels this would dress up the house and make it more functional. The motion was made by Andrulonis and seconded by Volpe that Planning Commission recommend to Council that they approve the request from Mr. Cavalier for: a modification of the front yard setback from 60' to 52' to accommodate enlarging the front porch.  VOTE AYES:  Commission Members: Bernardo, Volpe, Andrulonis, and Chairwoman Moore    ABSTAIN: None NAYS: MOTION PASSED: 4-0  None  Jeff Langdon/Catherine Bartruff - 525 Liberty Blvd (DuBois Manor) - Conditional Use Code Enforcement/Zonings Officer Lawhead thought that Mr. Langdon and Ms. Bartruff  would bei in attendance.  Member Andrulonis asked if this purchase was conditional oni the modification be approved.  Lawhead said noi iti isac conditional use.  Nasuti said that they brought it to Planning Commission because they didn't know! how to address the request. Student housing is not mentioned anywhere in our Code of  Ordinances.  Andrulonis asked ift this was similar toi the property at the High School, the multi-tenant. Nasuti said the issue with that one was the multi-family in an R-1 district, it must be an R-2 district; plus there was no parking. The one on Liberty Boulevard is in an Industrial Zoning Solicitor Cherry stated she has al lot of concerns about this property. Commercial uses that are permitted in a Commercial District can be added later, they can be used as conditional use. Chairwoman Moore and I were talking about this, and we just didn't get the debate down to you. Those are uses that must be accessory to first floor commercial use. So, this one doesn't do that. Long term rentals on the second floor and then only motel rentals on the first floor. What are they doing here, $20,000 isn't going to fix this place. Andrulonis asked for clarity on the owner, and are they buying this? Is there a sales Lawhead believes there is a sales agreement pending, but hei is not 100% sure. He gave Bartruff all the times and dates to be here and was hoping she was going to attend. Moore said she really hesitates to puti in any recommendation to Council without it being wrapped up the way it should be. She questions Jeff Langdon being a member. Amember Cherry believes it's his LLC that is going to buy this place. Moore said it doesn't say that. Cherry asked whoi is making this request? Lawhead said Catherine Bartruff and. Jeff Langdon were both here; Ig gave them the paperwork to fill out, they filledi it out and brought it back. Andrulonis said, sO these are the buyers. Cherry said, potential buyers. Lawhead confirmed Andrulonis asked if they can make a request for something they don't own? Cherry stated only if they have authorization from the seller/owner. Andrulonis said or a signed sales agreement or conditional sales agreement pending approval of this, right?  District which is broad in what it allows.  agreement pending?  of what?  they are potential buyers.    Moore asked if Ms. Bartruff is ther manager now. Lawhead stated currently she has nothing to do with the property. Volpe said she will be the manager once they purchase the Cherry said she is not the manager, Lawhead said he believes they have an LLC or have a property company that she is thei manager of because she has owned other properties in the City and Ihave dealt with her. Ithink that is why she signed as manager but she doesn't Cherry she doesn't have any standing to make this request unless they can produce a signed agreement from the owner that says they are going to buyi it and the sale is conditional on granting this. Itreally should be the owner that comes forward and says this is what we want to do and we have say, ifi ini fact Council has approved that. So are they going to continue to rent to the hospital where all the mental health patients that have nowhere to Volpe said when he worked at the hospital if someone left and didn't have a place to go they would give them a couple of nights stay ati the Manor. From there on I don't know what Lawhead stated that a part of the property is long term stay now. They have people that have been there for, correct me iflwrong Chief, they have people that are living there. Chief Clark stated he dealt with one this morning that had warrants and hel had been there for three weeks; SAMS put him there. Itis not just out of the hospital, they are coming out ofr rehab centers and everywhere else and putting them there. Ihad a confrontation, for lack of better words, with the guy from SAMS that keeps putting these people ini there. We either deal with them at Sheetz or they're tearing the place up, they have drugs in and out of Lawhead stated if they want to buy this, keepi it as a motel, operate it, and fixi it up from the Andrulonis stated that is what he was going to say, what do they need us for? Cherry said they don't. Lawhead said they don'ti if they are not going to make any changes. Nasuti stated that they wanted to change the use from what they were doing previously, if you change the use it has to come through Planning SO we can make sure they can bei there andi meet the parking requirements. Idon't think we need to approve anything tonight, but Iwould like to be ablet to get back to them and sayi if you want to continue the use as a hotel that's great. If you want to change the use the paperwork needs to be submitted by the owners. Ouradvice isi if you are going to get a change of use, we think it will or will not be approved. Ify you are going to move forward, you must meet the requirements of Andrulonis asked fort the difference. What did youj just say, that's where I'm getting  property.  having anything about LLCI inl here.  gog get put?  happened.  there, all kinds of stuff.  shape it is currently in, they don'treally need anything from us.  Commercial Cwhich doesn't allow residential on the first floor.  confused.    Nasuti said a Commercial District allows yout to have residential as an accessory use but not on the first floor. So, ift they want to have long term apartments, they must be on the second floor and the first floor could operate as a motel; now that is going to get intoi isi ita an accessory use? Itis not an accessory use. I'm not even sure we could go that far ofa stretch. Referring to Toni and Nancy, Ithink thati is what you two were talking about earlier.  Right?  Cherry said yes we were debating that.  Nasuti stated the bottom line may be, we leave it as ar motel, or you go toaconforming use. Andrulonis asked if someone said we are going to put 1.51 million into this and we want it all student housing. What would our role be? That would be a cleaner yes or no, correct? This  long term and student housing, without the owner, this is a mess. Moore asked Lawhead if they had any code violations. violations; lassume that people are doing drugs and....  Cherry said lassume you have code violations all over the place and youl have legal  Lawhead stated he doesn't have anything right now but just go down and look ati it, Icould write a book on it probably. It's not like Ican geti in the rooms to see what kind of shape they are in. Chief Clarks been in more rooms thanlhave been, the last onelwasi in was Andrulonis stated he would rather not give these people false hope, have the owner jump through a bunch of hoops making it contingent on the sale. I'drather just drop the hammer and say no it can't be done. If you are looking at this, we say this isn't going to fly no matter what you do. Asi it is us telling them as a Planning Commission, we feel we: should tell them here is how we could approve something like this and layi it out tot them. Ift therei isn'tany Nasuti said, he feels that isl how we should leave it tonight. Let them know one way or the other. Andrulonis said let's not give them a laundry list to come back with and then say nope can't doi it. If you do these things, there is a likelihood that you will get approved. If there is never going to be any conditions in which we approve this, then let's kill this thing Cherry said wel have student housing, Andrulonis said we need more student housing, Cherry said no question. Cherry went on to say, we have it ini the middle of a mixed use because it was attached to as school. It was the Business College with Penn! State on the other side. Because wel had two schools, it's an educational thing, and so it's there where it probably shouldn't have been. But because they are out there, SO is the student housing. Nasuti said It think on that student housing you are talking about; someone wanted to buy that, and use it for other student housing and we wouldn't allow it because it is connected to the school. Lawhead said, now they have business offices in there and other small  burned up, looked like a charcoal box.  intent to ever approve it, then we let them know that too.  right now.  businesses on the first floor and there still is housing up above.    Cherry's question is about. Jeff Langdon, he'samember: and his business is in California. Now, I just want to present some things. We have enough trouble getting things resolved through absentee owners. Andrulonis added and people that live here. The absentee owners that live across the county, we can't get to respond to us. My concerni is, Idon't know how you: are going to remodel this motel and parking lot with $20,000. Imean we: are talking; Id don't think he could doi iti for $200,000. All ofi it must be fixed, you would have to Volpe asked if anyone would want their kid to stay in one of those rooms the way they are  redo everything, you are talking a million dollars toi fix this thing.  now. No way.  Andrulonis saidIhaven't been ini them Dave. Volpe said hel hasn't either but look at the outside.  Cherry said she has concerns about the pedophiles living in student housing on E. DuBois. Why can we not get that fixed, and that is student housing they are violating that. Thati is Nasuti siad he's okay and he thinks that Andrulonis is going this way, wej just tell them it's not a residential place and they can have it as al hotel but not as student housing or  Tim Britton, and he does not worry about any rules.  residential. Ithink thati is appropriate.  Cherry agreed. She thinks it's lovely, a large parcel and you could do some incredible things witha wise developer. But we are talking about al huge financial investment. Myi idea about motel and extended stay, that's a ar new concept in most motels. You list them as extended stay, make them into suites, and you have little kitchenettes SO people who come here on business and have to: stay for a while.... Andrulonis said the guys on the rigs are doing more ofthat. Ifthey are going to be int the area for a couple of months, they may. give them a Moore said, what you are telling me is, there is no code enforcement ini those properties. Chief, you have been in some of them. Chief stated that he has been in them quite often. Moore said we have no idea what they are like. The Chief said, they are trashy, they are dumps. They are absolutely dumps, and he's not sure about second means of egress and all of that if you have an extended stay. lam sure there are things that are going to falli into Moore said it has sat there, and I am willing tol leti it set there until that area can be  discounted rate of $30 a day or $1,000 a month or something like that.  place.  developed. Idon't care how! long we must wait. Andrulonis was curious about the sales price.  Lawhead said $800,000.  Bernardo wanted Moore to confirm the sales price.  Andrulonis asked hows she found out. Moore said she did what she used to do when she was a realtor and went to at friend that is still al broker. Is she guessing ori is that the price.    Moore said iti is actual. Andrulonis asked ift there was a sign up by thel boulevard. Bernardo asked if Moore told her $7,000. Moore said it was almost $8,000. Everyone clarified $8,000  or $800,000. Moore confirmed $800,000.  Clark felt ifi it was $8,000 we could all goi in and purchase it. Lawhead stated as of March 1st it was listed at $799,000. Andrulonis felt it was al lot of square footage.  Nasuti said iti isa good size lot andi it crosses the stream too.  Andrulonis asked if the hobby shop was included int this too. Cherry said no. Lawhead said that the hobby shop did: sell ori is in the process of selling. Someone bought Fishell's. Cherry wanted to know what they planned to do with Fishell's. Clark felt they could put something downstairs. Lawhead stated that he wants tot fix up all the apartments that are abovei it. Andrulonis was surprised that there were apartments above Fishell's. Cherry stated if you are looking toward Fishell's going down the boulevard you can see how bad they look over the top of the motel. Lawhead said the new owner wants to puti in climate controlled storage It the back, there are two store fronts; one would be some type of al bakery/sub shop type thing and the other store front they really haven't decided. He seems to have the  means and the motivation to doit. Cherry said wonderful. Andrulonis asked for help with the motion sO we can move on.  Cherry said student housing, we have residential housing and student housing is permitted Nasuti stated we need to address student housing as the wording is noti in our code book at all, they list boarding houses, boarding rooms whichi is the closest. To be a boarding room Moore stated that the realtor fori this deal is from State College and State College has student housing regulations; we need them. Cherry would like to get those. When we have absolutely nothing else to do, which will never be. We should look and see where we want Cherry said if you don'tmention iti in your Ordinance, it is something that is allowed as a The motion was made by Andrulonis and seconded by' Volpe that the Planning Commission recommend that Council reject the request of Mr. Longdon and Ms. Bartruff to change the conditional use at 525 Liberty Boulevard on the grounds that the application was incomplete, lack ofi information, the use is not permitted, and they lack standing as they are  inside of that not at all.  according to our ordinance, you have to also serve meals.  that, because we do have housing throughout that probably isn'tright. special exception. Cherry doesn't think we want to go there.  not the owners of the property.  VOTE AYES: ABSTAIN: NAYS:  Commission Members: Bernardo, Volpe, Andrulonis, and Chairwoman Moore  None None    Nasuti said het thinks he'sl looking for a way to legally keep them out. Chief Clark said don't wel have the: statue that.. Cherry said adult entertainment statute. Chief Clark said no nuisance property. We could start charging them for that; then what happens there, just Moore stated that she and Member Bernardo went into Redneck Reno; Moore said she just wanted to throw up when she got outside. There was a very pregnant woman with her belly sticking out smoking a cigarette and people putting money into machines that clearly can't afford to. Walking through it was an experienc.ldontknow: what we could do. Bernardo suggested that we turn to other communities and see what they are doing. Like  like down at the bars, they don't call when they have their bar fights.  State College.  Andrulonis feels we would have to change our ordinance.  Chief Clark: said our District Attorney came here and took Redneck Reno's machines and Lawhead stated that they are limited on the number of machines they can have. They are only allowed five or six now. But if you have two store fronts youl have ten, youj just have to  then he was told to give them back.  go outside and into the other storefront to play the other five. Cherry wanted to know why the D.A. came and confiscated them.  Lawhead said the PLCB said that they were not games of skill they were gamblingmachines. Cherry said, SO they have to regulate them, and they hadn't been approved. Chief Clark: said Lawhead said because the place in Pittsburgh that makes them is suing the state and all the local district attorneys. They are: saying they are games of skill, and they are winning in court battles. They register them here, Iknow how many machines they have, they pay $100 annually per machine. Chief Clark said, maybe you should charge a higher fee. Cherry agreed. Cherry asked what about the registration fee, we don't have PUC regulating that. It'snot like National Fuel that we are going to be: stuck exempting certain things. Why don't Andrulonis said, help me understand the process for someone like Redneck Reno. What did the new tenant have to go through for approval from us? What did he need? Lawhead: stated, they just put them ini there. Iwent down there after they opened up and told them this is the rules for putting these inl here and this is what you need to do with me. Andrulonis were they in violation before they signed the lease to go in there.  correct. Cherry asked, why did they have to return them?  you jack your price up?  Lawhead said as far as...  Andrulonis asked how you would know that they were going ini there.    MOTION PASSED: 4-0  Cherry asked how we regulate the development of $20,000? How do you give thema Nasuti stated that we wouldn't, that he's not sure why we even ask for the numbers on the form. When they come ini for thel building permit, they will have to substantiate the numbers. Obviously not on this project but on future ones and past ones that we do. Andrulonis asked if they would request information and estimates. Nasuti confirmed they Lawhead stated, we would have tol have engineer drawings. When you do engineer  permit.  would.  drawings, the engineer must have realistic prices. It's that simple. Andrulonis wanted tol know how they would even know about this.  Cherry said probably on the internet. Lawhead stated that Barntruff lives in Reynoldsville. She's had a couple of properties here. Cherry asked if she does a good job developing. Lawhead confirmed she doesn't. She has sold all of her properties in DuBois, currently she Cherry went on to: say that people do not realize how much it costs to develop a property, it is sO much more than the estimate. It's called deferred maintenance, everything is wrong, the wiring, the plumbing, etc. There was a fire and they coveredi it over, it isj just never  doesn'thave: any.  ending. Skills Machines  Lawhead asked to add the Skills Machines to this evening's meeting.  He is not sure why people want that kind of business. We have had enough issues with Redneck Reno. Ihave one that opened up down onJared Street. Italked to the guy; he did pay his machine licensing fee toi the city. Ireceived a call the other day, they want to open one up on East Long Avenue. There is no clear definition of what these are, is it al business? What do you classifyi it as? Cani it be a standalone thing? Do we send everyone from here on Andrulonis said right now it'st the law, II look at it no different than an arcade. If you were to put al kids arcade somewhere by law. That's why I can't believe they are going to be there long even if they are approved. I've done al business kind of proforma on these businesses, the reason they make money in the clubs is the overhead is already there. They are already open, they already have the lights on, they already have the heat on. They have to pay rent, someone has tol be there, do youl have to meet the open container laws. There is a lot of stuff that comes with these things, butl I don't know by law what you could do to stop that. Cherry said the PLCB doesn'tregulate those. When they are called games of skills, they are not regulated; when they are called games of chance they are. Andrulonis said there is a big difference. Chief Clark: said East Long is a drug haven area already; if you put thati ini now,  out to Council for approval?  you make it worse. Redneck Reno is nothing but trouble.    Lawhead, I didn't know they were, they just put a sign on thet front.. Andrulonis SO you really ..therei is no ...we have no ability to stop them. Right? Lawhead said other than change of use from what that building was used for previously.  Andrulonis asked if there was a change of use application.  Moore said there is, but we don't use it.  Nasuti said, we use it; itj just wasn'trequired for that one. It was for commercial use that  stayed a commercial use.  Moore said iti is commercial use but. :  Andrulonis you are: saying it is commercial to commercial, you are not saying change of Moore said that change of use is to be used even if the usei is in the same category. Nasuti said, we need to distinguish between the change of use and occupancy. Lawhead  business use. Just type.  said you're talking occupancy VS use.  Andrulonis said occupancy that is what I'm asking.  Lawhead use int the building code is like a mercantile business use and thati is what it stayed. Cherry asked if he got his permit money. Lawhead confirmed he did not. They didn't need ap permit; they say they didn't change anything. Once you geti in there, they changed stuff Moore asked if they got an occupancy permit before they opened. Lawhead said they did Andrulonis asked, if the new buyer of Fishell's wanted to put a whole lot of machinesin, Nasuti said, right nowi if they are going to use it for the same use, they can put five machines  and moved stuff around and added stuff. not. Moore said there is your catch.  what's stopping them?  ini there right nowi if they want to. Cherry said at no cost.  Moore said, even ifi it is the same use category they still need an occupancy permit.  Cherry asked if we get anyone to do an occupancy permit. Andrulonis wanted to know what that means. Moore said then they don't open.    Andrulonis asked if we require an occupancy permit. Nasuti said for change : Andrulonis said change of ownership?  Lawhead said no.  Moore said, for changes of use even ini the: same use category. Lawhead said no. The Mini Mart up on Main and Long was a restaurant that A-3 use, group int the building code, they are going to al Bi use group or M not sure which onei it is going tol be. That is a change of use. So, it was a convenience store prior too, then it went to a restaurant. I'm not sure ifit went to Planning or not that is before my time. Now it's going back to the mini mart. I'm making them geta certificate of occupancy permit under the building codet fori that. That is where I will make sure that everything int the zoning that they are doing fitsi in there. Once they apply for that, P'II looki it over, if it needs to come here then I'l: sendi it here. That one is pretty cut and dry, buti it was a convenience store 30 years ago and nowi it is going back to Cherry asked Lawhead if they come to his office first before they start opening up, or do they just come to a place and open up. Lawhead, that is what they are doing, luckily, Igota call on the one on E. Long Avenue. He could have opened up by now, because he had to sign al lease by the 1st for that building. So, he may have thrown machines in there and opened Nasuti stated that the question that Moore is asking right now, we don't have a mechanism inj place that requires them to get a permit for change of use within the same use.  one.  up.  Moore said, we should.  Lawhead said an example is, Jenn sells the flower shop down here to someone else that was going to runi it as ai flower shop. You are saying, that we should have them register fora a new  occupancy permit. Moore confirmed.  Andrulonis asked how are we even notified there is a change?  Moore said there is a change in ownership. Either you must deal with that, or you have to deal with the landowners finding leases with people without coming toi the city and getting Nasuti stated we don't always know change of ownership, if. Jenn: sells the business and not the property we wouldn't be notified. Andrulonis said that is what! his point is, you can't regulate something that you are not aware of. It sounds like Zac drives around town and Lawhead said the one on. Jared Street he found because he drove down. Jared Street and Volpe asked what the difference is between games of skills and games of chance. Games of  the proper paperwork.  says what's going on here and pulls in.  there it was.  chance are regulated by the state while games of skill are not.    Cherry stated that the Sandy Club, who has games of chance ini their club, puts money back into the Community by donating some of the proceeds to area non-profits such as the  United Way.  Andrulonis stated that games of chance operators are required to give sO much back to your Bernardo asked Lawhead to repeat the conversation they were having about.Johnstown to Lawhead stated that the. Johnstown Assistant Manager reached out last week, they are redoing their mechanical device amusement ordinance. He reached out to find out where we were at on fees per machine and how we handle it. He was doing research on third class cities and other neighboring municipalities, and he has found that machines are anywhere from $50 to: $800 per year for registration. They felt $800 was too steep but he felt we were inl line at $100 they think they are going to charge $150. He did tell me they finalized their new ordinance and iflwould like a copy ofitt to see how they are going to handle it he can Cherry said they are emerging from ACT 47, aren't they? Lawhead confirmed. Cherry said Bernardo said, ifl hear correctly you are going to get a copy of the ordinance. Lawhead Cherry stated she would be happy tol look ati it. Ihad no idea that iti is all over. Itistragic for Andrulonis stated they prey on the lowi income. Cherry said of course they do...i it's terrible. Chief Clark said before long Sheetz will have them. Andrulonis said Choice has them, right? Chief confirmed. Andrulonis asked if Snappy's does. Clark Confirmed. Andrulonis said you can't get a seat at the ones at Snappy's. Lawhead said the ones in Reynoldsville are packed, every machine. Lawhead said, they sit there for hours; not 201 minutes. Andrulonis said they Nasuti stated we will start working on that, just wanted to bringi it to your attention because Andrulonis believes we need to look at the student housing andi the games of skill machines. Moore said we looked into a rental ordinance. Cherry said that got shot down. We would have been able toi incorporate iti into that. Moore believes we need to get back toi it. Nasuti stated he would reach out to State College on Student Housing and Zac will reach out to. Johnstown on the Games of Skill machines and we'll get thei information to Toni and seei if  community; games of skill are not.  the group.  send iti to me.  they are inl big trouble. They are a mess.  confirmed.  ac community 54% lowi to medium income; itr really is...  are getting cash advances on their credit cards to play. itis! becoming ani issue. Bernardo was glad they did.  there is something we can do.    Cherry said she was with Bernardo on that one. You must know how many people are ina rental unit. Imust tell you. Joe has al house out of Oklahoma Salem Road and a woman has lived there since we boughti it. The tax collector in Brady Township writes to me every year and asks if the occupants have changed, and how many adults are living in that house. They are doing it, they are making them account fori it. Idon't see the problem, but the City Council backed down on the pressure from renters. We don't know who isi ini these places. Lawhead said when you did away with the Per Capita Tax that is what that is for. You can't track how many people arei int the house without it. It was a pain, but thati is what it did. Andrulonis asked how that was controlled. Lawhead said through the Treasury Office. The $10 a year tax, Idon't know howi the school handles theirs, because they still doi it. They should know how many people arei in al household: and what knot. Idon't know who  Withi that information we knew how many were ini the house.  handles that stuff for them and who tracks it.  Cherry had one last question, what are you doing about that house on East DuBois where all the pedophiles live? Andrulonis asked ifi it was the one up behind the new: sign. Cherry said yes next to all these kids, all these young kids in college. Tim Britton's house. Cherry confirmed. Cherry said there are al lot of girls living ont that street, young girls; and boys what am Italking about, young men. Lawhead said there are three; one on East DuBois, 107 East DuBois with Penn State painted on it, and East Second behind it the duplex back there. Cherry said they are all supposed tol be: student! housing, but they are Megan Law. Chief Cherry said as a parent would you want your kids living on that street? Chief Clark said parents don't know. Cherry said that'si it, they don't know because they have never had to register. That's why It think these rental units.... Clark said Britton rents by the room, that's how! he does stuff. Lawhead said he believes there are nine rooms int there he rents out. Moore said who owns that; Lawhead said Tim Britton. Cherry discussed the civil action Chief Clark said the Gluczyk's old store is full of pedophiles. Andrulonis asked if Charlie was doing that. Clarks said he is doing it all over town now. Cherry asked what that was. Lawhead said Chucky Kutsel, Gluczyk's old: store. Andrulonis said, sO many good memories; that makes me: sick. Lawhead said iti is so bad that they moved the bus stop from that intersection because ofit. Clark confirmed. Andrulonis said that is where he picked up the Lawhead said the bad part is we have SO many we have tol house in the county. Clark said it isc controlled by the Housing Authority and we're having problems because they are bringing these people in. That is what needs to be controlled. Cherry said, once you put somebody ont there that's a separate entity and City Council can't control them. They are separate. Chief Clark asked if we could have a moratorium and control in each ward how many rental properties there are? Clark: said other communities do it all over the country. They have sO many rental properties within certain jurisdictions. Cherry said if you can track down an ordinance and if Council passes it, I will doi it; but they backed down when all those landlords came. Remember that? They were fit to be tired those landlords. Chief Clark: said he sawa woman walking early one morning, all night walking, she is trying to get an apartment  Clark agreed.  against Britton.  bus. Andrulonis said if Gluczyk knew it he would roll in his grave.    because the Housing Authority gave hera a voucher from Brookville, she ist from here, but has to go there. Later, that dayl dealt with someone from. Johnstown and the Housing Authority made sure they! had a place to stay. Cherryasked, before this lady? Clark  confirmed. Clark: said that's what's happening, it's abouti money.  Adjourn VOTE AYES: ABSTAIN: NAYS:  There being no further business to transact, the motion was made by' Volpe and seconded  by Andrulonis that the Planning Commission adjourn.  Commission Members: Bernardo, Volpe, Andrulonis, and Chairwoman Moore  None None  MOTION PASSED: 4-0